If so, let me know and will send a four-page article I found. Sally ======================== Some people in America describe themselves as Black Dutch or Black German. These terms mean the same thing, Dutch is the English form of Deutsch in German or Duits in Dutch (Nederlands). It has come to mean the people of the Netherlands only in English recently, but it originally meant all speakers of German in the broadest sense. This includes the entire German sub-branch of the Germanic Branch of the Indo-European Language Family. The other sub-branches are the Anglo-Friesian (English, Scots and Friesian) and the Nordic (Swedish, Dano-Norwegian [Danish, Rigsmal and Landsmal], Icelandic, and Faeroese [Faroese]). There are many dialects and languages in the German sub-branch, divided into High German and Low German. The forms of High German are German [High Saxon, Alemanni, High Frankish, Swabian, Bavarian, Austrian, Luxembougese, Alsatian, Styrian], Swiss German, and Yiddish. Low German includes Dutch, Flemish, Afrikaans [South African Dutch], Hanoverian [Low Frankish], Hessian, Low Saxon [Brandenburgian], Holsteiner, Pomeranian and Prussian. The Frankish area includes Rheinland-Pfalz and Hanover, with the area south of Aachen [Charlemagne's capital], centered on Frankfurt, speaking a High German dialect, and the area from Aachen north, centered on Essen, speaking a Low German dialect. The Pennsylvania Dutch are Low Germans from Germany, not Dutch from Netherlands. The Dutch called themselves Nederduitser (Nether German) until recently, when they switched to Nederlander. Belgium is trilingual, the northern part speaks Flemish (Vlaams a dialect of Dutch), the southern part speaks Waloon (Valone, a dialect of French), and the eastern edge speaks German (Luxembougese). There are at least six quite different groups of people described as "Black Dutch". If you have been told you are Black Dutch or part Black Dutch, you must find out what the name of the German, Dutch or Flemish immigrant was (if there was one), where he or she came from, what their religion was, if any, etc., before you can figure out to which group they belonged. Sally Rolls Pavia Sun City, AZ sallypavia2001@yahoo.com “We will not be remembered by our words, but by our kind deeds." List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"