Please welcome to the BFA John Kenneth Bunker of Concord, California as a new BFA member. John is a grandson of James Leo 8 Bunker (D-275-IV; RN=6269; 1982 BunGen p.145), notes BFA President Gil Bunker. The James L Bunker Elementary School in Newark is named in James L. Bunker's honor, and this school is one of California's 2002 California Distinguished Schools. We've noted that on the BFA web site listing. Doug Detling BFA Web site/e-mail coordinator

As you know, the Bunker Family Association web site contains a page listing the current e-mail addresses of BFA members, listed in alphabetical order. This page is at www.BunkerFamilyAssn.org/email.html. At the request of many members, the BFA web site coordinator has redesigned this page to minimize the ability of e-mail address "harvester robots" --used by many companies to capture e-mail addresses from web sites and also by so-called "spammers" (junk e-mail senders). To send an e-mail to any BFA member, you must manually enter the address in your client e-mail program (for example, Outlook Express, Outlook, Eudora, etc.). And, to obtain the BFA member's real e-mail address you MUST delete from any address you see the characters "BFA_" which appear after the @ symbol in each of page's e-mail addresses. EXAMPLE: You want to send e-mail to Gil Bunker, BFA President. If you send an e-mail message to gilbunker@BFA_snip.net it will not be delivered. Instead, delete "BFA_" from the second part of his e-mail address and it will reach him.  The only exception to this is the web site coordinator's e-mail address. I use software to "kill" spam messages before they are downloaded, and it is faily reliable, though a certain amount of junk mail gets through. Doug Detling BFA web site/e-mail coordinator

Hi all: > >From: "Bette Richards" <betterichs@earthlink.net> >To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Nigerian scam >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:57:27 -0700 > >People are also getting hit with messages that appear to be valid >genealogical messages from other genealogical friends and email >contacts. >NEVER open anything that ends with .exe. If your virus >protection does >not indicate it has a virus, still do not open it >until you are certain >that it came from someone you know. Usually the only files that have .exe >after their name are program files. > At a minimum, be sure to have your virus signatures current, and scan the .exe file for the presence of a virus. I have gotten executable files that contained a virus payload from people I know. The people weren't terribly PC aware and just passed along something they thought was *clever*. Oh, one more thing. I have gotten (past couple of months) a couple of messages that appear to come from Microsoft and purport to have some sort of Microsoft security fix as an attachment. Note bene -- Microsoft never sends fixes to any of their products via e-mail. > > >If you open a file like this it automatically gets into your system as > >soon as you click on it. Runme.exe is going around again. DO NOT >OPEN >ANYTHING THAT SAYS runme.exe. > >Bette > If you're uncertain about something that's arrived via e-mail, I suggest you search at the Symantec web site using this URL http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/vinfodb.html/ It's a much less painful to avoid *infecting* your PC hard drive than it is to clean up the mess after you've unknowingly installed a worm / virus. And my thanks to Bette for this welcome reminder! Best regards H.A. Kippenhan, Jr. _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

Some people on this list are getting hit by a scam from Nigeria asking for money. These guys must get enough to make it worthwhile to keep it up. To check out anything from Nigeria that offers anything go to http://www.quatloos.com/cm_niger/nigerain_scam_leter_museum.htm People are also getting hit with messages that appear to be valid genealogical messages from other genealogical friends and email contacts. NEVER open anything that ends with .exe. If your virus protection does not indicate it has a virus, still do not open it until you are certain that it came from someone you know. Usually the only files that have .exe after their name are program files. If you open a file like this it automatically gets into your system as soon as you click on it. Runme.exe is going around again. DO NOT OPEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS runme.exe. Bette

Hello cousins, The BFA is requesting information about Ann Bunker Elliott, formerly of Eureka California. Her Banner was returned with "Attempted, not known." Ann is D751F-I (1982 BunGen p.273) and is about 85 or 86 years old. Can anyone provide her current status? gil

Hi everyone: Doug has added a page to the website about the DNA project. Go to http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org Thanks Doug. Another website you might find interesting is that of my nephew Gary. It is http://andysocial.com and to see a picture of him go to http://www.andysocial.com/Bunk This place also tells you some personal things about him. Gary (RN10070) is the grandson of Martin Bunker (RN9474, D-1346-III), son of my brother, Bill (RN10002) who is retired Navy. If you are interested in a bit about me go to http://www.u.arizona.edu/~eryn and click on the essay about the analysis of a person. This is about the museum I work at and the interviewer puts something about me in it too. Amazing what you find when you do a google search on a name. Try it. Go to http://www.google.com To avoid getting bunches of Bunker Hills put the name in quotations like "Bette Bunker". That way you will get hits that only have Bette and Bunker side by side. Click google search and see what you pick up. I found things about myself that amazed me. I was looking for Gary P. Bunker, one of the few surviving male Bunkers from the Charlestown, MA Bunkers. I found he is on the board of directors for AACEI-CSRA in Jackson, SC. There is a picture of him on their website. http://www.aacei-csra.org and click on executive board. I was really surprised to find a site for my nephew even though I knew they shared a name. Never know what will happen when you do a google search. Bette

SEE COMMENTS BELOW. BETTE -----Original Message----- From: Mary-Gene Page [mailto:mgpage@unlimited.net] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:12 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Great Migrations CD I have just purchased this CD, but FYI there is not much about BUNKER in it. It tells of a couple of George C-1 Bunker's land sales, it gives the marriage of Martha Bunker N1-V to Stephen Hussey, it mentions Bunker's field in Charlestown and also, in Salem a Bunkard's Meadow. THIS BUNKARD'S MEADOW SEEMS TO PREDATE THE IMMIGRATION OF GEORGE BUNKER AND I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO IT WAS NAMED AFTER. That's about it however, except for one that has me wondering. A William Brackenbury who came to Charlestown about 1629/30 then went on to Malden, died between Jul and Nov 1668, and, in his will of Jul 1668, left a bequest to "Mr. Michael Wigglesworth and to Mr. George Bunker and to my cousin..." - but George Bunker C-1 had died in 1664 in Malden and I do not see any other George Bunker who was living in that year. Can anyone give any suggestions? Oh, yes - one other item omitted in the Dover publication: On 14 Oct 1651 James 1 Bunker D-1 was named in an indictment for conspiring to steal from Mr. Shapleigh. (Source: MPCR 1:170) (The BFA book says that he was employed by widow Catherine Shapleigh 1648 and 1649, when Ellingham hired the Shapleigh Mills at Sturgeon Creek (Spencer 112). The book went on to say "Shortly thereafter he moved the short distance across the state to Dover, NH..."). Now we can guess why. I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED HOW THIS WAS RESOLVED. HE EVIDENTLY WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SEVERELY PUNISHED IN THOSE DAYS. YOU COULD GET HUNG FOR STEALING A LOAF OF BREAD IN THOSE DAYS AND HE MERELY MOVED AWAY. I SUSPECT THAT IT WAS A DISPUTE OVER MONEY OWED, BUT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY RECORD OF THE RESOLUTION OR TRIAL. Mary-Gene Page (Dover branch) ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I have just purchased this CD, but FYI there is not much about BUNKER in it. It tells of a couple of George C-1 Bunker's land sales, it gives the marriage of Martha Bunker N1-V to Stephen Hussey, it mentions Bunker's field in Charlestown and also, in Salem a Bunkard's Meadow. That's about it however, except for one that has me wondering. A William Brackenbury who came to Charlestown about 1629/30 then went on to Malden, died between Jul and Nov 1668, and, in his will of Jul 1668, left a bequest to "Mr. Michael Wigglesworth and to Mr. George Bunker and to my cousin..." - but George Bunker C-1 had died in 1664 in Malden and I do not see any other George Bunker who was living in that year. Can anyone give any suggestions? Oh, yes - one other item omitted in the Dover publication: On 14 Oct 1651 James 1 Bunker D-1 was named in an indictment for conspiring to steal from Mr. Shapleigh. (Source: MPCR 1:170) (The BFA book says that he was employed by widow Catherine Shapleigh 1648 and 1649, when Ellingham hired the Shapleigh Mills at Sturgeon Creek (Spencer 112). The book went on to say "Shortly thereafter he moved the short distance across the state to Dover, NH..."). Now we can guess why. Mary-Gene Page (Dover branch)

If anyone knows the answer, please contact Roxann directly. She is not a member of the list. Doug Detling >From: "Roxann Gess Smith" <gesswhoto@attbi.com> >To: <ddetling@greencity.org> >Subject: Bunker Hill Question >Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 22:43:38 -0700 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 > >I have an old family real picture postcard of Bunker Hill, which appears >to read June 17th, 1917. In the photo, there is scaffolding hanging down >the side of the monument, I've always wondered what they were >doing. Could you be so kind to help me with that? > >Roxann Gess Smith >Salem, Oregon

I have been looking for Godfreys that Jane who married George Bunker might possibly be related to. So far I have found no Godfreys in the early records of Ipswich or Topsfield, MA. Ipswich, MA was established Aug 5, 1634 and on Oct 18, 1648 a portion was set off for Topsfield, MA. I also have found no record of a marriage for George or the births of his children, Mary, Ann and Martha. I did find this, which I thought was interesting, in Early Records of the Town of Topsfield, Mass. Vol. 1 1659-1739, Published by Topsfield Historical Society in 1917, p. 134: "At a Lawfull meeting ye (4th) of 5th month; 1656 it is herby ordered and Granted that there shall be a way of foure Rod wide from the forde nigh to the House of William Towne: Through the lands of the sd William Towns, William Howard, Jacob Town, Edmund Towne and George Buncker as it is layd out by Francis Pebody, John Redington, Edmun Town, and William Howard: at the Request of the sd. Town. Voted" Even more interesting is that fact that this record is published in the book between records from the year 1704 and the title of the book says the records are from 1659-1739. In the 1931 Bunker Family book, p. 158, Richard Swain, 2nd husband of Jane Godfrey Bunker, it is mentioned that Richard Swain owned land abutting that of John Godfrey of Hampton in Hampton in 1658 and 1660. Also, in 1660, a deed of land abutting that of William Godfrey in Hampton. A William Godfrey entered Trinity College, Cambridge, MA in 1660. And of course, a John Godfrey was accused of being a witch in Andover in 1660 and Haverhill in 1662 and 1665 and acquitted each time. In Essex Co., MA (where Topsfield is) John , Mary, Peter, and Andrew Godfrey gave depositions during the 1660's and 1670's. However, aside from private records cited several times by NEHGS I am not finding any records that say George Bunker's wife Jane was a Godfrey or that Richard Swain's wife Jane was a Godfrey. Evidently the old timers of Nantucket believed that she was Jane Godfrey. Bette

Dear Bunkers, Is there anyone here on the list who is descended from Delbert William and Marilyn Lou Haas Bunker? I'd like to correspond with you if you are, or if you know any of that family's members. Mary-Gene Page BFA Family Historian

I got this interesting site from the AZ Genealogical Soc. Scroll down the page for links on how to preserve almost anything. It gives you tips on how to preserve old photographs and other family treasures. http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/bytopic/genpub/ Bette

Ya, I am on the right list. A new book has been published about that famous outlaw Jesse James called JESSE JAMES LAST REBEL OF THE CIVIL WAR by T.J. Stiles published 2002 by Random House. I have not read all of it yet, but did read the part about the Northfield, MN bank robbery in which Alonzo Bunker (descendant of James of Dover) was shot by a member of the James gang. It is the most detailed account I have read of that event and substantially documented with contemporary documents. I thought I would pass that along for those of you who might be interested in reading it. Bette

Dear Donna, Parish records did not begin until the late 16th-early 17th centuries so there is no parish record of Roger's death. Are you sure you have the right Agnes? There are copies of William and Oliver's wills in the Bunker history. Regards Brian Bunker ( Hong Kong ) -----Original Message----- From: Donna [mailto:tacii@olg.com] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:35 AM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: George Bunker of Nantucket So Roger's parents haven't been discovered yet? Roger's baptism hasn't been found in England? He died in 1515 in Tingrith, Bedfordshire, England - Is there a parish death record? I've seen someone has even narrowed it down to Dec 15? Oh, that was when the will was written - does anyone have copy? Again, Agnes died Jan 1623 Acton Turville, Gloucestershire, England - Is there a parish death record? Did she write a will? Is that how you have a date? William's will of 30 Sep 1558. Oliver's will of 15 Nov 1616- does anyone have copies? Maybe this might help me - are the wills listed in either the Henry Bunker book or the Ed Moran book? Thanks. Donna ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Want more information on the Bunker Family Association? Send an e-mail message to gilbunker@snip.net and receive our current newsletter, and a pedigree chart of your Bunker ancestors (if they can be located in our files). ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

NEHGS has put cemetery inscriptions online. In there I found in Center Cemetery, Exeter, Penobscot Co, Maine: Melville A. Bunker, 1849-1924 and Florence M. his wife, 1845-1914. This is Melville Arthur Bunker (RN5753) and his wife, Florence M. Frost (RN10926). Benjamin Frost Bunker, 1815-1881 and Sarah V., his wife, 1812-1884 and their son, Princeton Bunker, 1849-1865. Does anyone know who Benjamin Frost Bunker is? He is not Melville's father. Nor does he seem to be Melville's uncle. However, since they are buried in the same cemetery, it seems there should be a relationship. Much to my surprise, I do not find a Benjamin Bunker in the BFA database between 1800-1881 and no Benjamin Frost Bunker or Princeton Bunker. With Melville's wife being named Frost it seems to me there is more of a relationship between the Frost and Bunker families. Has anyone heard of these families? Bette

The New England Historic Genealogical Society is copying the Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850 and putting them online. So far not all the cities have been transcribed but they are up to over 4,000 records that mention the name Bunker. A lot of these come from "P.R" which means a private record which may have been a family Bible or other record kept by the family. Even so, it is a great source. Their website is http://www.nehgs.org you need to be a member to view the records but someone interested in searching in Massachusetts and other New England states may find it is worthwhile to become a member. Incidentally, they have over 300 records that mention both George and Bunker and over 500 that mention both William and Bunker. As with other computer searches this does not necessarily mean that you will see a record for William Bunker. And some of the Bunkers found may be Bunker Hill. Bette

Donna: Copies of the wills of Roger and William are in The Bunker Family by C.W.O. Bunker published in 1931. Bette -----Original Message----- From: Donna [mailto:tacii@olg.com] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:35 AM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: George Bunker of Nantucket So Roger's parents haven't been discovered yet? Roger's baptism hasn't been found in England? He died in 1515 in Tingrith, Bedfordshire, England - Is there a parish death record? I've seen someone has even narrowed it down to Dec 15? Oh, that was when the will was written - does anyone have copy? Again, Agnes died Jan 1623 Acton Turville, Gloucestershire, England - Is there a parish death record? Did she write a will? Is that how you have a date? William's will of 30 Sep 1558. Oliver's will of 15 Nov 1616- does anyone have copies? Maybe this might help me - are the wills listed in either the Henry Bunker book or the Ed Moran book? Thanks. Donna ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Want more information on the Bunker Family Association? Send an e-mail message to gilbunker@snip.net and receive our current newsletter, and a pedigree chart of your Bunker ancestors (if they can be located in our files). ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello cousins, The Banner will be delivered to the Post Office this evening gil

Thanks for looking. I have just sent to NEHGS for some books with early MA records and I will see what they have. Our early genealogists cited several different sources but I can't find any actual records. And I can't find a copy of the New England Monthly or Yearly Meeting. I understand that the Rhode Island Historical society has a copy of them but unfortunately I live in Arizona. It is a bit of a ride to go to RI. (g) I sure wish someone would transcribe those and publish them. I can find my mother's ancestors in Hinshaw's Quaker Genealogy but my father's were in NH and the other Bunkers were in MA and Hinshaw did not transcribe those. Too bad. I appreciate your interest. Let me know if you find anything interesting and I will keep you informed of anything new I find. Bette -----Original Message----- From: K. McGee [mailto:kmcgee03@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:20 PM To: Bette Richards; BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Jane Godfrey Bunker [Swain/Swaine] Bette, Sorry for taking so long to answer -- I've gone to the Quaker list asking about the Quaker side to this and so far have gotten more confused and more unsure about the materials I thought were good with good sources. So until I feel more confident about what I'm being told, please consider the marriage of Jane to her second husband Richard Swaine (b. 1595) as one normal to the time, particularly as I understand, but have not proved that Jane's husband died as a result of drowning. In the estate materials she is shown with 5 children under 21 - a big task back then. Dates too could have been corrupted due to Old Style as opposed to New Style dating. At 03:14 PM 9/21/2002 -0700, Bette Richards wrote: ><snip> >With this marriage date it would be a good assumption that he was born in >1575. If he is the same one that married Jane Godfrey Bunker in 1658 or >later, he would have been over 80 years old. This may have been Richard >Swain's father who was also named Richard. Another Richard (see below) was >born in 1601 and he allegedly married Jane Godfrey Bunker. A birthdate of >1601 makes more sense for Jane's husband but then George Bunker was born in >1621. There could have been still another generation of Swains here. > > >Married: 15 SEP 1658 in Hampton, Rockingham Co, NH > >This is interesting. I wonder if this (15 Sep 1658) is the date and place >that Richard married Jane Godfrey Bunker as George Bunker died 26 May 1658. >Quick marriage especially as Jane was not a poor widow needing someone to >support her children. And it does not appear that Richard Swain needed to >marry her for her money either. > > >Children > > Richard Swaine b: 13 JAN 1659/60 in Hampton,, NH > >I would hope this is 1660 or this child was conceived before George died. **I'm not sure what dating style this was -- do you? <snip> Any way, there have been very good responses on this mail list and they've been interesting on the Quaker mail list as well. We'll see what shakes out <G> as a friend reminded me. Thanks for all your help and your good ideas, K. McGee

Bette, Sorry for taking so long to answer -- I've gone to the Quaker list asking about the Quaker side to this and so far have gotten more confused and more unsure about the materials I thought were good with good sources. So until I feel more confident about what I'm being told, please consider the marriage of Jane to her second husband Richard Swaine (b. 1595) as one normal to the time, particularly as I understand, but have not proved that Jane's husband died as a result of drowning. In the estate materials she is shown with 5 children under 21 - a big task back then. Dates too could have been corrupted due to Old Style as opposed to New Style dating. At 03:14 PM 9/21/2002 -0700, Bette Richards wrote: ><snip> >With this marriage date it would be a good assumption that he was born in >1575. If he is the same one that married Jane Godfrey Bunker in 1658 or >later, he would have been over 80 years old. This may have been Richard >Swain's father who was also named Richard. Another Richard (see below) was >born in 1601 and he allegedly married Jane Godfrey Bunker. A birthdate of >1601 makes more sense for Jane's husband but then George Bunker was born in >1621. There could have been still another generation of Swains here. > > >Married: 15 SEP 1658 in Hampton, Rockingham Co, NH > >This is interesting. I wonder if this (15 Sep 1658) is the date and place >that Richard married Jane Godfrey Bunker as George Bunker died 26 May 1658. >Quick marriage especially as Jane was not a poor widow needing someone to >support her children. And it does not appear that Richard Swain needed to >marry her for her money either. > > >Children > > Richard Swaine b: 13 JAN 1659/60 in Hampton,, NH > >I would hope this is 1660 or this child was conceived before George died. **I'm not sure what dating style this was -- do you? <snip> Any way, there have been very good responses on this mail list and they've been interesting on the Quaker mail list as well. We'll see what shakes out <G> as a friend reminded me. Thanks for all your help and your good ideas, K. McGee