Ancestry has the total index for the 1930 census out and I decided to follow up on the Indian Bunkers in Mahnomen Co., MN on the White Earth Indian Reservation that I reported on in the last Banner issue. I was hoping that I would be better able to read where William Bunker's father was born as I could not read it in the 1920 census. In the 1930 census the enumerator just decided to put down for nearly all the Indians "mixed blood Chippewa" and that is what it says of both of William's parents. In 1930 this Bunker family is still the only Bunker family in Mahnomen Co. and the only ones called Indians in Minnesota. William is living in Twin Lakes age 65, with his wife Lottie age 60, dau. Adeline age 24 who is working as a saleslady at a general store; son LaVerne age 21 who is working as a fur trapper; and son Richard age 14. Bert is living in Island Lake age 36 working as a laborer at the timber camp. He is living with his wife Susan age 38, son Wilmer age 16 and daughter Bertina age 12. George is living in Twin Lakes age 30 working as a laborer at the sawmill. He is living with his wife Mary O. age 27, and sons Leonard age 6 and Glenn age 3 8/12. The 1930 census is very interesting. It lists the value of your house or the amount of rent you pay per month. Most homes were valued at about $2000-3000 that I saw but my millionaire cousin was living in Pontiac, MI in a home valued at $30,000 (I checked that out just to see if the values were making sense). The census lists whether you own a radio. Many pages list the name of the street and the number of the house for each family. If you are an immigrant it lists the year you came to the country and the language you speak. It also lists whether you are a veteran. The WW veterans (remember this is WWI as WWII came in the 1940's) were: Allen P. Bunker, age 35 b. Iowa with his parents born in Iowa. He was living in Minneapolis with his wife Claire M. age 34 who was born in ND and her parents were born in Germany. Allen was working as a building laborer in dry goods. I haven't a clue as to who Allen's parents were. Lee C. Bunker (RN21232) age 39 b. Iowa with his parents born in Iowa was also a WW veteran. He was living in Minneapolis and was a chiropractor. He was the son of Andrew Melville Bunker. Our database does not give any information about him except his name so this is new information for us. The last veteran of the WW listed was Theodore Bunker age 33, b. Minnesota with his father born in Maine and mother born in Minnesota. He was in trucking gasoline. He lived in Bird Island Township, Olivia Village, Renville Co., MN with his wife Christine J. age 32 who was born in MN and her parents were born in Sweden. I haven't a clue who he is either but also in the same place was Scott E. Bunker a bookkeeper at a garage who owned a house worth $3000. He was 38, b. WI with parents born in Maine. Maybe he was Theodore's brother? At any rate he was living with his wife Mabel E. age 37 b. MN with father born in Iowa and mom in MN. All the kids were born in MN. They were: Roger B. 12, Virginia M. 10, Wilbur M. 7, Mayme L. 5, and Robert S. 2. If anyone can figure out who these unknown Bunkers were related to, I would appreciate it. Thanks. There were 85 Bunkers counted in Minnesota in the 1930 census. I have the list of all of them if anyone would like me to look for a specific person. Bette

I live in Spokane WA. Go back and search the Spokane Spokesman Review for details about the mine. It is one of the most highly polluted places in the U S and a superfund clean up site. Dennis Bunkers

I just finished making a chart of the DNA test results so far for the Bunkers being tested. We have a Devon Bunker haplotype which consists of 10 markers. If any male in the world DNA markers match those 10 markers he is a Bunker from Devon regardless what his name might be today. All right! Anyone with these 10 markers has a common ancestor that lived about 3000 years ago. Now that is not as close as we want to get but we already have the three Devon Bunkers who must have shared a common ancestor about 750 years ago. With more tests we will be able to narrow that down even more. That was in just 5 tests of Devon Bunkers. None of them matched 12/12 markers. If any do they will have a common ancestor within the last 250 years. One did not match 5 of the markers and it is proof that he is not a relative. That was my dad who is obviously not a descendant of James Bunker of Dover as we believed. Bye cousins. Guess we will just have to be kissers instead of kissin cousins. ;-) We will find more Bunkers that do not match anyone else. Do they cease to be Bunkers? Of course not. They just form their own branch of Bunkers. And we get to do more research to figure out who their first Bunker was. We have 4 more test kits out right now. One from a German American, one from Tingrith, one from Charlestown and one from NZ who is also a Devon descendant. We are waiting for the Tingrith one to come into the lab yet. The other three are there and I should get the results shortly. Any other men that want to join in? Go to the BFA website and follow the links to the DNA surname project. <http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org> Bette

Since nobody is busy right now, I thought I would send a couple of good research sites. Ouch! That was me being hit by all the stuff you guys just threw at me. I realize that most of you are busy with the holidays but if you can get to your computer to do a bit of research to calm down a bit (good therapy) I want to help you. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ho, Ho, Ho, Hee, Hee, Hee. Ok the eggnog is getting to me. The 1901 England and Wales census is online but a bit difficult to decipher so someone has put out a free software program to decode the thing. <http://lancslist.info> Since I am not doing research in this area, I have not tried the program but what the hey, it's free. A list of U.S. city directories can be found at <http://www.uscitydirectories.com> This tells you where they are located. Rootsweb has a death index which is regularly being added to. <http://userdb.rootsweb.com/deaths/> The latest records added are from Idaho and Illinois, but they have new records being added all the time. This one is good to revisit at least once a month. Bette

I had never heard of the Bunker Hill Mine in Kellogg, Idaho, but ran across this page of beautiful minerals found there. (They are even for sale.) See for yourself at http://www.irocks.com/new1202pyros.html Anybody know how the mine got its name? Alan Leighton

The Bunker Hill Mine is no longer in existence, becoming a Superfund Cleanup site in the 1990s. Actually, the company name was long known as the Bunker Hill and Sullivan Mining Co., operating for many years (1885-1983),It was a wholly owned subsidiary of the Gulf Resources and Chemical Corp. from 1968 until Gulf ceased operating it in August 1981, and subsequently became a superfund cleanup site, for the following reason: "While they produced a significant portion of America's lead, silver and zinc during their heyday, Bunker Hill and other mining and ore processors also left behind a legacy of serious pollution in the Coeur d'Alene Basin." This quote can be found here: http://www.djc.com/special/enviro98/10043970.htm A concise company history can be found at this site, also listed on the Bunker Family Association web site: http://www.lib.uidaho.edu/special-collections/Manuscripts/mg367.html I will list the site Alan mentioned on the Bunker Family Association Bunker links page. Doug -----Original Message----- From: Bette Richards [mailto:betterichs@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:38 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Bunker Hill Mine in Kellogg, Idaho The Bunker Hill Mine was and maybe still is owned by Nelson Bunker Hunt and his brother Lamar. Their mother was a Bunker, Lydia Bunker, the daughter of Nelson Waldo Bunker (N-240-11) and Sarah Hunnicutt. They are descendants of the Nantucket branch of Bunkers. The Bunker Hill mine was primarily a silver mine with some other minerals also found. I am not sure it is being mined any more. When I lived in Spokane, WA (nearby) the mine was closed down. I left WA in 1980 so maybe they have reopened the mine. Bette -----Original Message----- From: Alan Leighton [mailto:leighton@gmx.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:30 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Bunker Hill Mine in Kellogg, Idaho I had never heard of the Bunker Hill Mine in Kellogg, Idaho, but ran across this page of beautiful minerals found there. (They are even for sale.) See for yourself at http://www.irocks.com/new1202pyros.html Anybody know how the mine got its name? Alan Leighton ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original. ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Douglas G. Detling (list coordinator) ddetling@charter.net

The Bunker Hill Mine was and maybe still is owned by Nelson Bunker Hunt and his brother Lamar. Their mother was a Bunker, Lydia Bunker, the daughter of Nelson Waldo Bunker (N-240-11) and Sarah Hunnicutt. They are descendants of the Nantucket branch of Bunkers. The Bunker Hill mine was primarily a silver mine with some other minerals also found. I am not sure it is being mined any more. When I lived in Spokane, WA (nearby) the mine was closed down. I left WA in 1980 so maybe they have reopened the mine. Bette -----Original Message----- From: Alan Leighton [mailto:leighton@gmx.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:30 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Bunker Hill Mine in Kellogg, Idaho I had never heard of the Bunker Hill Mine in Kellogg, Idaho, but ran across this page of beautiful minerals found there. (They are even for sale.) See for yourself at http://www.irocks.com/new1202pyros.html Anybody know how the mine got its name? Alan Leighton ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original.

Sarah Bunker age 20 m. Jacob Kerth age 21, on 27 Oct. 1881 in New Orleans, LA. They had a daughter born in New Orleans, 27 Mar 1882 named Philippina Catherine Kerth. Does anyone know who Sarah's parents were? Bette

When I first got started on the DNA project, I had my father tested. I wanted to compare his DNA markers with other descendants of James of Dover, NH and then with the English to see if all the Bunkers are related. In the first group of men tested, 3 were descendants of men from Devon, England. One of those was a descendant of James of Dover. He is descended from Clement Bunker and Rebecca Drew. So is my father, or so I thought. The two men supposedly descended from Clement Bunker do not have matching DNA. The one tested definitely matches the two other men descended from Bunkers that came from Devon, England. James of Dover was supposed to have come from Devon, England. This descendant of Clement should be descended from James of Dover. But, there is my Dad. There are a bunch of us out there descended from Clement Bunker. I descend through his son, Jacob. Jacob has a fascinating history as he was captured by the Indians as a boy and did not return until he was a grown man. Then he went to Meredith, NH for a while and later to Quebec with his son Isaac, and some other Bunker relatives. Eventually they ended up in Illinois, where some of the family still lives. I have pretty good records for my Dad's ancestors, but the records between Clement and Thomas Jefferson Bunker are scant or non-existent. The two men in there were Jacob and his son, Isaac. I am looking for other descendants of Clement to see if their DNA matches the Devon, England men and thus James of Dover or if they match my dad's DNA. Possibly we can narrow down the place where the "stranger father" came in. That leads to questions about why he was called Bunker and there are no known adoption records. Informal adoptions were common. Orphans were regularly taken in by other families and assumed the names of the new families. After a couple generations the "adoption" was forgotten. Many women had children that were not those of their husbands. A lot of first children were not the children of the husband and the husband frequently knew it. Many times, men who married loved their wives and wanted to save her the shame of being a single mother even though they knew that the child was not theirs. Many times women were married previously and we just have no record of it. The father raises her children by the first husband and they take his name. Again the biological relationship is sometimes not known to the other children or grandchildren and sometimes forgotten. And then of course, sometimes the woman has an affair which leads to a child that her husband thinks is his. Even the woman may think it is. Depends upon the circumstances. I am now really interested in finding descendants of Clement to test. If they all match the Devon Bunkers, we can look for the "stranger father" further down the line. I am also looking for descendants of Clement's grandson Isaac and great grandson, Thomas Jefferson Bunker to test. As far as we know Jacob had only one son, Isaac and his only surviving son was Thomas J. However, there has been some conjecture that Andrew Bunker from Canada was a son of Jacob. It would be good to find some of his descendants to test too. If they matched my father's DNA markers it would confirm their descent from Jacob but not from James of Dover. Now isn't this interesting? If you are a man born with the name Bunker and would be interested in doing the DNA test, go to <http://www.bunkerfamilayassn.org> and follow the links for more information and directions on how to be included in the group testing. You get a discount by being a part of the group. Bette

Old story, new twist? The same story is told of a soldier, who not having a bible for chapel, used a deck of cards. When the chaplain chastised him for play cards in church, he told a similar tale. gil -----Original Message----- From: Mary-Gene Page [SMTP:mgpage@unlimited.net] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:55 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Fwd: [SCGSI] (no subject)] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [SCGSI] (no subject) Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:53:53 -0700 Resent-From: CASOLANOCGS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:53:23 EST From: Sutstoy@aol.com To: CASOLANOCGS-L@rootsweb.com Hi Gang, This came to me from a very helpful lady (and possible relative) in Darwen, England. The Origin of The Twelve Days of Christmas There is one Christmas Carol that has always baffled me. What in the world do leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans, and especially the partridge who won't come out of the pear tree have to do with Christmas? Today I found out, thanks to the Internet. >From 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Someone during that era wrote this carol as a catechism song for young Catholics. It has two levels of meaning: the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of their church. Each element in the carol has a code word for a religious reality which the children could remember. The partridge in a pear tree was Jesus Christ. Two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. Three French hens stood for faith, hope and love. The four calling birds were the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. The five golden rings recalled the Torah or Law, the first five books of the Old Testament. The six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation. Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit: Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership and Mercy. The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes. Nine ladies dancing were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self Control. The ten lords a-leaping were the ten commandments. The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples. The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles' Creed. So there is your history for today. This knowledge was shared with me and I found it interesting and enlightening and now I know how that strange song became a Christmas Carol...so pass it on, if you wish. love, Pauline Aloha Joe :>})

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [SCGSI] (no subject) Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:53:53 -0700 Resent-From: CASOLANOCGS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:53:23 EST From: Sutstoy@aol.com To: CASOLANOCGS-L@rootsweb.com Hi Gang, This came to me from a very helpful lady (and possible relative) in Darwen, England. The Origin of The Twelve Days of Christmas There is one Christmas Carol that has always baffled me. What in the world do leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans, and especially the partridge who won't come out of the pear tree have to do with Christmas? Today I found out, thanks to the Internet. >From 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Someone during that era wrote this carol as a catechism song for young Catholics. It has two levels of meaning: the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of their church. Each element in the carol has a code word for a religious reality which the children could remember. The partridge in a pear tree was Jesus Christ. Two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. Three French hens stood for faith, hope and love. The four calling birds were the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. The five golden rings recalled the Torah or Law, the first five books of the Old Testament. The six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation. Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit: Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership and Mercy. The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes. Nine ladies dancing were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self Control. The ten lords a-leaping were the ten commandments. The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples. The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles' Creed. So there is your history for today. This knowledge was shared with me and I found it interesting and enlightening and now I know how that strange song became a Christmas Carol...so pass it on, if you wish. love, Pauline Aloha Joe :>}) ==== CASOLANOCGS Mailing List ==== List address: CASOLANOCGS-L@rootsweb.com List manager: casolanocgs-admin@rootsweb.com SCGS website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cascgsi/ List archive: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/casolanocgs List search: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CASOLANOCGS ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Cousins, The Banner was delivered to the mailer on Friday afternoon. It should be in the mail by "Wednesday." I was finally able to get most of the whale's tooth story from the publisher of Antiques Roadshow Insider. Enjoy. Please, if you want to contact me via email, print something appropriate in the subject box, other than Hi or Hello. unless, of course, you're from hotbabes.com with my viagra supply ;-) If I don't recognize your name or subject, the msg will be deleted as spam. gil

>From: Gil Bunker <gilbunker@snip.net> >... >Subject: New Member >Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:21:07 -0500 > >John Kenneth Bunker D-1320 >jbunker@jamadots.com > >Above John not to be confused with John Kenneth D275-IV, who joined in Oct >2002 The newest BFA member has been added to the Bunker-L mailing list, and the e-mail directory page on the BFA web site has been updated. Welcome, John. Douglas G. Detling (D15-II) - Bunker Family Association web site/e-mail coordinator ddetling@greencity.org or ddetling@charter.net visit the BFA web site at: www.bunkerfamilyassn.org/index.htm

On the 1870 census in Leslie Twp., Ingram Co., MI is Abel bunker, age 67, carpenter & joiner, b. NY; Nancy age 47, b. OH; Richard age 1, b. MI and Frederick Kellogg age 14 and Mary Kellogg age 12. Could this be Abel Coffin Bunker (RN17556), son of Jethro Bunker (N-138) and Rebecca Coffin? Abel Coffin Bunker had a brother born in NY and Abel could easily have been born in 1802-3. Abel Coffin Bunker had several children born in Michigan. We have his wife as Albertine Lamphere but Nancy was a nickname for just about anything and he could have married twice. In addition, Abel Coffin was the grandson of Richard and had a brother named Richard. Does anyone know this family? Bette

The Library of Michigan has put the 1870 Michigan census up on their site. It has 51 Bunkers named as head of household in the index. Click on the page number and you can read the page in Adobe Acrobat. If you do not have Adobe Acrobat just click on the Adobe icon on the upper right side of the page and download it free. This census named all the members of the household and the first Bunker household I looked at raised a lot of unanswered questions. It loads the image really slow but is worthwhile waiting. <http://envoy.libofmich.lib.mi.us/1870_census/Search.asp> This is a free site. I sure appreciate it when people on this list send me new sources to search and share them with everyone I can. Bette

In the midst of doing historical research I came across this website. <http://www.smplanet.com/colonial/colonial.html> Colonial America history. Bette

A good Florida site is <http://ipac.hcplc.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?&profile=dial&menu=Online%20Resources &submenu=news#focusfocus> This is a long URL. You may have to copy and paste it. A really good newsletter for research is <http://www.researchbuzz.com> And the site where I got these, Dick Eastman's newsletter at <http://www.newsletter@rootsforum.com> Bette

There is no such thing as a Cherokee princess as the concept of a hereditary royalty is totally foreign to all Indian tribes. The Chiefs were always elected and their daughters were never princesses. However, the Cherokee Tribe has always been one of the largest in America and was one of the first to encounter Europeans. Many, many of their members married white people. So, even if you are not the descendant of a Cherokee princess, you may very well be a descendant of a Cherokee. In the National Genealogical Society Quarterly for Sept. 2002 (V.90, #3), Lathel F. Duffield, Ph.D. reports that the 1835 Cherokee census omits approximately 1/3 of the Cherokee families who later emigrated to Oklahoma in the Trail of Tears. If you don't find your family on the 1835 census look at these documents: "List of valuations of Cherokee improvements, under the treaty of December 29, 1835," in Report from the Secretary of War, 18 Feb. 1839, 25th Cong. 3d sess. (1838-39), S. Doc. 277, p.111-88. Capt. John Page, "Muster Roll of Cherokees to Emigrate West of the Mississippi River," 31 Dec. 1838, Emigration Rolls, 1817-1838, item 46; Cherokee Removal Records, entry 220; Record Group 75, Records of the Bureau of Indian Affairs; National Archives, Washington. "A List of Cherokees with amt. of Property Sold by direction of the U.S. Comm. under the Treaty of 1835...Rec. 28 May 1844," Cherokee Agency, 1836-1880, Letters Received by the Office of Indian Affairs 1824-1881, microfilm M234 (Washington NARA, n.d.), roll 88, frames 142-66. And for 1,220 Cherokees that did not emigrate and remained in South Carolina, Annual Report of the Office of Indian Affairs, 1845, 29th Cong. 1st sess. (1845-46), S. Doc. 1, pp. 459-60, for "Census No. 1," note E. If you find a Bunker descended from a Cherokee, I would sure like to know about them. Bette

AGCIG, Arizona Genealogy Computer Interest Group, sponsors the following re Old Photos" that need 'homes.' LOST LEAVES .. www.lostleavesphoto.com We are sponsoring the “Lost Leaves” project on our website. If any of you ever go to garage sales or flea markets, or even antique stores you will see old photographs that have been lost to a family and are being sold for a dollar or two. As genealogists, we know what treasurers these are. What a loss it is to those who are looking for the people in them. Our goal is to collect the treasurers and put them on the Internet and have them identified and returned to their families. So, we are asking for donations … If you have a few you have collected, or If you see a few in a flea markets or antique stores, and want to donate them. Contact Rusty Perry at 480.460.8540 or perry@primenet.com. The photos can also be mailed to Lost Leaves, Box 51498, Phoenix, AZ 85076-1498 Sally Rolls Pavia Sun City, AZ sallypavia2001@yahoo.com List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L@rootsweb.com "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by the moments that take our breath away." All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus 2002

Interested in finding old photos that might be of your ancestors? Try these websites: <http://www.ancientfaces.com> <http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/ancestors> <http://Pw1.netcom.com/~cityslic/photos.htm> <http://www.deadfred.com> <http://my.erinet.com/~fordnag/FordNagle.htm> <http://www.city-gallery.com> <http://www.heirloomslost.com> <http://www.yourpastconnections.com> And if you want to find the phone number of anyone in the US with a listed phone number go to <http://www.Switchboard.com> The phone number and address is free but for a fee you can get all kinds of records, etc. Bette