Jean, Wow, a lost George Bunker, and an adopted one. You certainly know how to ask difficult questions. George Bunkers we have, too many for me to find an answer. We have no George Everette Bunker and no one named Clinkenbeard, that much I know. I'm certain previous compilers would include the Clinkenbeard name to an adoption entry. First time I've heard that name in 25 years of affiliation with the BFA. I'll forward your query to our membership, just maybe someone has a clue, but I'm doubtful. Our historians may be helpful, but don't get your hopes up too high. Without better data on George, we may be at a loss to help. Sorry I can't offer more positive help. gil -----Original Message----- From: Jean S Powell [SMTP:kellyco3@juno.com] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:04 AM To: gilbunker@snip.net Subject: Bunkers in Appanoose and Wapello County IA Gil, I learned of the Bunker Family Association recently and wonder if you or one of your family members could help me on these Bunkers. I am interested in the Bunker connection to my Clinkenbeard line. These people all lived in Appanoose County IA, near Exline. One of my family members, Alonzo Clinkenbeard and his wife Permelia Wells Clinkenbeard had three children. The parents both died in the early 1890's within 2 months of each other, leaving three orphans. My grandparents, Alonzo's brother George Clinkenbeard and his wife Susie, took Oscar to raise when he was about 4. The Wells grandparents took the girl Ollie she was about 2 and the baby boy George Everett was taken by a BUNKER family. I believe the husband's name was Everett. Anyway they either adopted George or at least changed his name to Bunker. I have his and his wife's obit, they lived in Ottumwa, IA for many years and died there, although we have not found their grave sites. George and his wife Mary had one son, George Jr. and he lived in Newton, IA. If anyone has information about George Jr. (Clinkenbeard) Bunker and his family I would certainly be interested. Thanks, Jean Powell a Clinkenbeard descendant

This site has lots of thing for sale including the Nantucket Genealogies and all the Bunker books. Do NOT buy the Bunker books anywhere except the Bunker Family Assn as they are much cheaper at the BFA. However, for other things this site might interest you. http://www.ancestorstuff.com For the current sales http://www.ancestorstuff.com/030205.htm For the Bunker books http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org Bette

Speaking of books, if you want a particular title try www.bibliofind.com It will list all the dealers who have the book for sale and their price. Some dealers seem to think every title is worth a small fortune, while others are glad to unload the publication. gil -----Original Message----- From: Bette Richards [SMTP:betterichs@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:24 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: online books Mary Gene passed this one on to me. It is a site with thousands of online books, many of them history books, that you might find interesting. http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/subjects.html Bette ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original.

Mary Gene passed this one on to me. It is a site with thousands of online books, many of them history books, that you might find interesting. http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/subjects.html Bette

Yo, That's a typical Philadelphia area greeting for hello. The Bunker Banner was returned for Miriam R Bunker of Wellesley MA, marker "Attempted Not Known." Does anyone know the current address or status for this BFA Life member? tks gil

Richard, Your question was answered back on December 27, when you posted the first query. The house on top of the hill sits on the garrison site. gil -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Detling [SMTP:ddetling@greencity.org] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:15 AM To: Kathy Sawler Cc: Bunker-L@rootsweb.com; Gil Bunker Subject: Re: Form posted from Microsoft Internet Explorer. At 05:52 AM 1/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: >FirstName=Richard >LastName=Sawler >address=dsawler56@hotmail.com >comments=My name is Richard Sawler and I am a decendamt of James Bunker.I >live in Dover, NH. I am knowledgeable about the Oyster River area often >take my dogs walking on Bunker Lane. I ame becoming more aware of the >geographics of Johnson Creek and Bunker Creek but have not found anything >like a cellar hole. If someone could send me some more details of the >area, I'd like to se if I can locate the site of the Bunker Garrison. I'm >enjoying the hunt and would like to assist anyone who has questions about >the area. > >Richard Sawler >73 Court Street >Dover NH 03820 Richard, I am forwarding this message to the Bunker-L mailing list (I will add you to the list if you'd like) in hopes someone can add some additional info for you that may indicate the site of the garrison. Gil Bunker, President of the BFA, may know a more exact address. Douglas G. Detling (D15-II) - Bunker Family Association web site/e-mail coordinator ddetling@greencity.org or ddetling@charter.net visit the BFA web site at: www.bunkerfamilyassn.org/index.html

At 06:14 AM 1/27/2003 -0800, dsawler56@hotmail.com wrote: >My name is Richard Sawler and I am a decendamt of James Bunker.I live in >Dover, NH. I am knowledgeable about the Oyster River area often take my >dogs walking on Bunker Lane. I ame becoming more aware of the geographics >of Johnson Creek and Bunker Creek but have not found anything like a >cellar hole. If someone could send me some more details of the area, I'd >like to se if I can locate the site of the Bunker Garrison. The modern house at the top of the hill at the entrance to Bunker Lane is built on the site of the garrison. Have you been back to the old cemetery behind the barn? Dave Larkin

At 05:52 AM 1/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: >FirstName=Richard >LastName=Sawler >address=dsawler56@hotmail.com >comments=My name is Richard Sawler and I am a decendamt of James Bunker.I >live in Dover, NH. I am knowledgeable about the Oyster River area often >take my dogs walking on Bunker Lane. I ame becoming more aware of the >geographics of Johnson Creek and Bunker Creek but have not found anything >like a cellar hole. If someone could send me some more details of the >area, I'd like to se if I can locate the site of the Bunker Garrison. I'm >enjoying the hunt and would like to assist anyone who has questions about >the area. > >Richard Sawler >73 Court Street >Dover NH 03820 Richard, I am forwarding this message to the Bunker-L mailing list (I will add you to the list if you'd like) in hopes someone can add some additional info for you that may indicate the site of the garrison. Gil Bunker, President of the BFA, may know a more exact address. Douglas G. Detling (D15-II) - Bunker Family Association web site/e-mail coordinator ddetling@greencity.org or ddetling@charter.net visit the BFA web site at: www.bunkerfamilyassn.org/index.html

I have been looking at sites lately where people can learn. I have been doing genealogy for over 40 years and am constantly learning how to do new things, new places to look, etc. Here are some of the latest that I have been exploring. http://www.genealogy.com/genehelp.html This is their learning center and is filled with a lot of good information. http://www.ancestry.com/library/archive.asp In their "Browse the Library" section they have things listed by category so you can sort out what you really want to look at. http://www.academic-genealogy.com has links to some very different kinds of sites. When you can't break through the line do an end run around it. Since it is Super Bowl weekend I thought that was appropriate! (g) Sometimes you need to go at things from a totally different direction. This site might help you with ideas you would never have thought of otherwise. http://www.onlinegenealogy.com has very neat links. Their other site http://www.sources2go.com is something you ought to look at. It has images of documents from the National Archives. Good ones too. Hope you find something to help you out. Bette

Lois Ann sent me this website for a course on doing internet genealogy. The course costs $$ but some of you may be interested. http://amberskyline.com/treasuremaps Another site with a lot of links concerning genealogy sources and study http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~vctinney/geneal.htm And for online courses in genealogy http://genealogy.about.com/formaleducation/ Bette

Lots of time when searching you will see the word Boolean. What does that mean and what will it do? You can put and, or, andnot, rank in your search words to try to better sort the records and limit the number of hits you get. If you put in John and Bunker you will get both those words some place in the document. If you put in "John Bunker" andnot "Bunker Hill" you will get only John bunker when the two words are side by side in the document and you will keep out all the Bunker Hill references. If you put in John Bunker or Johann Bunker, you will pick up those documents that have either John Bunker or Johann Bunker in them. If you put in Columbia rank Georgia you will get documents with the word Columbia in them but all those that also contain the word Georgia will be ranked higher on the list of hits. I am definitely not very knowledgeable when it comes to searching like this but am learning. If others have ideas on how to do searches I would sure appreciate hearing about them. Bette

Rootsweb user databases sometimes have just what you are looking for. Some new ones that look good http://userdb.rootsweb.com/aus contains nearly a million records for Australia and New Zealand with about 70,000 different names. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/uki has about a half million records for Britain and Ireland with about 45,000 different names. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/italy is a much smaller database with, you guessed it, Italian records. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/marriages has marriage records in several states. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blanchec/ has Cornish records especially St. Allen's Parish. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylinks/ has all kinds of links and is updated nearly daily. Take a look at the Native American links on this one. Isn't it nice that Rootsweb continues to provide so many free sites in spite of needing financially to hook up with Ancestry? When all else fails you need to get out of the genealogy websites and go elsewhere on the net. You would be amazed what you will find, including the family pages you haven't been able to find in your past searches of genealogy sites. People sometimes don't know how to use these sites and get overwhelmed with a return of 543,678 hits. Google has a tutorial that will help you a lot. http://www.google.com/tour/services/index.html Try http://www.alltheweb.com search tools. Alltheweb is trying to compete with Google so they keep adding more stuff to give you better search results. http://www.searchenginedictionary.com is just that. It defines words used by the search engines like Google and Alltheweb so you can figure out what they are talking about. When searching the census' you may find no hit for the name you are looking for. That may not mean the person is not there. It may mean the transcriber just could not read the name. I could not find my gggpa until I went to the state, then the county I thought he was in and then searched for his first name, which was Hollis. That is unusual enough that I could expect there would not be many with that name. And there he was with his last name Bunker all smeared up to the point that only a Bunker would recognize it. Also, if you do not find the name, look for each member of the family individually, such as Hannah Bunker, Willis Bunker, Sylvester Bunker and Charles Bunker. You may find it that way. Unable to find my husband's father, Charles Randall, I searched for his mother Elizabeth Randall. He was entered as Charley and not to be found as Charles. A site that will help you search census records http://www.censustools.com It also gives you, right now, a free 7 day try at Ancestry's census images. If you work hard at it you may find all the images you need in that 7 days. Sorry this message got so long. I have more but will put it in a separate message. Bette

The New England Historic Genealogy Society puts out a newsletter that is free. They have 33 databases that are free and about 60 or so more that are for members only. I must say of all the genealogical societies that I belong to I get the most from them. Their current newsletter lists all their online databases. Many are available only from them. Most of the US citizens had ancestors from New England and this is the place to find the records. I recommend that you read this newsletter especially for the information about their databases. http://www.nehgs.org and on the right side of the page you will see A Guide to New England Ancestors etc. It has a link to subscribe to the newsletter and get these two editions. Thanks to all the nice people who have let me know that they appreciate the tips and links I send. I believe in sharing. So many times my brick walls have been smashed because some nice person decided to share with me. I hope I do the same for some of you. Bette

Thanks to Don Stone of the Genealogical Society of PA for the following sources. PA cemetery records http://www.idreamof.com/cemetery/pa.html Scroll down the page to find the different counties and the cemeteries therein. PA passenger lists http://www.searchforancestors.com/passengerlists Again scroll down the page to get past the Ancestry search box to the actual PA record pages. More PA passenger lists http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pagermanpioneers Genweb has put some PA Archives containing PA marriages online http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/1pa/paarchivesseries/series2/vol2/pass2 -00.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/1pa/paarchivesseries/series2/vol8/paarc h2-8toc.html Tomorrow Jan 21 PBS is showing Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey at 8 or 9 pm on most of its stations. Check your local listing for the time. A few are showing it on different days this week. This looks like it may be an interesting program on migration patterns which have been ascertained from archeological evidence and DNA evidence. Since I rarely watch TV, I hope I don't space it out and miss it. My ding a ling brain frequently does that to me. Bette

Hello cousins, FYI: An original 1965 genealogy is up for bid on ebay. Starting at $25, it is a bargain. The BFA reprints will cost you $36. It contains Charlestown, Nantucket and some unconnected branches. Go to ebay and type "Bunker Genealogy" in the search box. Good luck gil

The LDS has put the 1880 census index online. It is an all name index. You can get the household by clicking on household which is located on the right side of the page when you get your person. It gives the occupation of the adults too. http://www.familysearch.org The census link is on the left side of the page. Incidentally, it also give the 1881 Canadian census and English too. This is only an index. To get the images go to Ancestry.com but you have to pay for those. Ancestry does not have the index! So, you can go to Family Search and get the page number, place, etc. and using that go to ancestry and get the image. The Ancestry image can be downloaded. Bette

Thanks Gil! Found this one also while doing the search....for just "Bunker Family" It also lists all that are in photos on the page, I am putting the spec.'s & contents in this email. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2980&item=2907503093 Title: The Bunker Family History, Vol. 1, 1st Edition Authors/Compilers: Josephine B. Walker, signed by author! Published by: The Edward Bunker Association Copyright: 1957 by Josephine B. Walker, Delta, Utah Pages: 300 Edward Bunker, Sr. was born in Penbscot Co., Me. CONTENTS: Forward Coat of Arms-Name of Bunker Bunker , Edward, Sr. Bunker , Emily Abbott Bunker , Edward, Jr. Steele , Emily Bunker Crosby , Hannah Adelia Bunker Bunker , Stephen Albert Earl , Elethra Calista Lee , Abigail Bunker Lee , Cynthia Celestia Lee , George W. Bunker , Silas Benjamin Cameron , Charilla Loella Bunker Bunker , George S. Bunker , Sarah Ann Browning Lang Leavitt , Elethier Bunker Bunker , William Edward Bunker , James Lang Bunker , Clifton Thomas Dickinson , Sarah Selena Bunker Bunker , David Alfred Lisonbee , Edith Delilah Bunker Bunker , Mary Mathieson McQuarrie Bunker , Martin A. Earl , Viola Agnes Bunker Bunker , John Mathieson Bunker , Francis Neil Cox , Mary Emily Bunker Bunker , Ezra Bunker , Robert E. Bunker , Hector "History of Bunkerville" and "The Water's In!" Tributes Family Organization (Reunions) Song, "Hard Times Come Again No More" Historical Sheets Geneological Sheets The Last Word Jamie

BFA President Gil Bunker has passed along new of two new members (both of who have been added to the Bunker-L e-mail list, and whose names appear in the BFA e-mail directory at our web site). Please welcome to the Association: Barbara Vayo of Rochester, New York, great grand-daughter of Mary 7 (N121-III), for whom the BFA has little or no data. Carol Van Brunt of Boise, Idaho, descended from Lavina 7 Bunker Matthews (D113-III), Carol's great great grandmother. FYI, the BFA e-mail directory is at http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org/email.html.

Just recently I borrowed from the New England Historic Genealogy Society a manuscript dated 1990 by Robert J. Leach entitled Nantucket Quaker Genealogy, vol. 1. This manuscript is printed and is very difficult to read sometimes. I transcribed the records so that I could try to make some sense out of them. I have heard that is quite inaccurate but I don't know what the people saying it was inaccurate compared it with. Perhaps they have a copy of the early Nantucket Quaker records but I have not seen those. I will agree that they do not always agree with our database but then we have no sources for the information in our database most of the time. This is at least a source even if it is inaccurate to some degree. When the BFA gets contradicting information, we enter it anyway. If later we get an actual written record like a will, Bible, church record, or vital record we may change it or just indicate which one we feel is the most accurate. I have been doing genealogy over 45 years and it is not unusual to get conflicting official records for the same person. The recorders were not always accurate either. The thing I find most interesting about this manuscript of Leach's is that it gives the names of the fathers of the people that married Bunkers. And he indicates which generation it is from the immigrant. Because of copyright laws, I will NOT send anybody a copy of all the information that I copied. However, I will be happy to look up your Nantucket Bunker ancestor and tell you what the information is about that person. I am also going to use this to try to sort out the Coffins, Gardners, Barnards, Starbucks, Swains, etc. that intermarried with our family but have not done that. The manuscript goes down to the 6th generation. Let me know if you want me to look anything up. Bette

Rootsweb newsletter had some good sites this week on basic computer operations and how to do genealogy with some good research links. Try these two sites. In addition, I recommend the Rootsweb newsletter which can be obtained by going to http://www.rootsweb.com Scroll to the bottom of the page for links to subscribe. Basic computer processes http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~besley/basic.html has everything from drop and drag to systems information. This is really good for someone who is just learning and also for someone like me who has been doing this awhile but still has a lot to learn. Some basic genealogical research tips and links. http://rwguide.rootsweb.com This also includes some things on using scanners, etc. It has good explanations about some customs and historical information along with the links for vital records, etc. This also has links for obtaining free forms used in genealogical research. I really like both of these sites. Bette