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    1. military heroes
    2. Bette Richards
    3. For a list of all Medal of Honor winners and a short description of the action for which they won the award go to http://www.defenselink.mil/faq/pis/14.html For Distinguished Service Cross medal information http://www.homeofheroes.com/medals/pages_wh/2a_dsc.html For information about the Silver Star and good links to other sites http://www.homeofheroes.com/medals/pages_wh/5_sstar.html Bronze Star http://www.homeofheroes.com/medals/pages_wh/10_bronzestar.html For other medals and the order of precedence of the medals http://sill-www.army.mil/Graphics/RIBBONS/Page.html For a great site about everything Army http://www2.powercom.net/~rokats/armyhome.html For Navy medals, etc. http://www.history.navy.mil/medals/ For US Marines Medal of Honor winners http://www.marinemedals.com/ Merchant Marines http://www.usmm.org/ US Coast Guard http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/collect.html Some Canadian and British information http://www.airforce.ca/index.php3?page=honours An interesting website for veterans and prospective service people. http://www.military.com/Page/0,12170,1-OO-0,00.htm And I did not forget the US Air Force. I just have trouble finding anything that is not a commercial site selling medals and awards. If anyone has a good site, please send it.

    09/21/2003 12:46:22
    1. RE: WW II casualties
    2. Bette Richards
    3. Thanks for this information. One of the bits of information that we most like to find is information about military experiences. I hope others will send me information about the service experiences of the people in their family. Bette -----Original Message----- From: John Snyder [mailto:johnsnyder@onetel.net.uk] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:02 AM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: WW II casualties Not a casualty, but worth noting that Francis W. (Toby) Bunker was a Navy vet of WW2, present at Pearl Harbor, serving aboard the destroyer USS SELFRIDGE (DD-357) until she was torpedoed in a night action with the Japanese navy during the Solomons campaign in 1943. He helped save the ship and get her back to the U.S. Transferred off to a new ship, a seaplane tender (USS ST. GEORGE), he was aboard her when she was kamikazed during the Okinawa campaign. He survived that one too. Though he was always "Uncle" Toby to me, he was actually my first cousin once removed (my mother's first cousin). Cheers, John Snyder Shropshire, UK ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original.

    09/21/2003 12:07:45
    1. Free (or inexpensive) software that might be helpful
    2. H.A. Kippenhan, Jr.
    3. Hi all: I call to everyone's attention a couple of free (or shareware) applications I find very handy. The latest Adobe Acrobat Reader (ver. 6.0) is available for download from www.adobe.com. The reader is free. I view it as a must. A shareware software application that permist you to WRITE PDF files is available at the following web site ... http://www.pdf995.com/ And I have an image manipulation application (freeware) that I use quite a bit. It's called Irfanview, and it is avalilable at the following web site ... http://www.irfanview.com I hope that some of you find these of some utility. Best regards H.A. Kippenhan, Jr. P.S. - I have found a pop-up blocker that I rather like. Go to www.google.com and search on 'google toolbar'. When you find it, download it (less than 500 Kbytes). It does a nice job filtering out pop-ups and it adds (you can turn it off) an additional toolbar that makes google searches easier, allows you to create 'blog' files, etc. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

    09/21/2003 08:53:59
    1. Re: WW II casualties
    2. H.A. Kippenhan, Jr.
    3. Hi all: > >From: "Bette Richards" <betterichs@earthlink.net> >To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: WW II casualties >Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:51:21 -0700 > >http://www.archives.gov/research_room/arc/wwii/army_aaf_honor_list/table_of_ >contents.html > You may encounter trouble when trying to cut and past this URL. The end of the text string must be 'table_of_contents.html' for it to work. > >Lists the casualties in WW II by state and county for army and army air >corps personnel. There is also a link for Navy and Marines. > >Be aware that there is no surname search here. You have to go through each >county to look for the surname. There were a lot of casualties in WW II. >Good source but it takes time to search it. > >Bette > I wish to personally thank Bette for this valuable resource. The 'engineer' in my being required that I take this for a test drive. I was lucky enough to find the spouse of a 2nd cousin - Robert H. Ellis. I now have his service number and I should be able to get his military records. The whole object of this is to find out where the man was buried. Note, as with any database youwon't find everyone - even though they were killed in action during WW II. Virgil L. Ewing (another distant cousin) isn't present in the list of KIA for Richland Co., Wisconsin. Again, my thanks to Bette for this tremendous information resource. Best regards H.A. KIppenhan, Jr. _________________________________________________________________ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com

    09/21/2003 04:59:01
    1. WW II casualties
    2. Sally Rolls Pavia
    3. As usual, Bette has come up with a wonderful site. I was very fortunate that none of my family died during WWII. My father was in the South Pacific, in the SeaBee's, on a little island called Treasury, part of the Solomon chain. Did have an uncle that was a POW after the Battle of the Bulge, he stayed in Germany for several years after the war working for the OSS, think that's what it was called. Sally Rolls Pavia Sun City, AZ "History is the ship carrying living memories to the future" sallypavia2001@yahoo.com List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    09/21/2003 03:35:22
    1. Bunker Garrison House
    2. Bette Richards
    3. I have a piece of the Garrison House. In fact, I have two pieces because the original piece broke. I am considering auctioning it off at the reunion in Tucson in Mar 2004. Ordinarily, at our raffles we buy a ticket and just get what happens to be offered at the time our ticket is drawn. What do you think about having a separate auction just for this piece of wood? From what I can see of the tree rings (and I cannot see them all as the piece is squared off and cut into a U shape cutting out the center) the tree was planted about 1600, + - 20 years, and was at least 40 years old when it was cut for use to build the Garrison House. The piece is about 2 3/4' x 2 3/4' x 3 1/4". It is hemlock. The piece I have was used in the front door frame. How did I get this? I joined the BFA about 1965. At that time there were available several pieces of the Garrison House remains. Since I am a Dover descendant, Annabelle Moore, who was president at the time, sent one of the pieces to me. I have had this piece for nearly 40 years and in the process one of the arms of the U broke off. That is the piece that I would put up for auction. I could do this several ways. I could just put it in the raffle prizes and we could take our chances on winning it. Or we could have a special auction where people could bid against each other for it. Or we could have a silent auction where people could put in a written sealed bid and the highest bidder would get it. Or we could accept written bids from people unable to attend the reunion as well as written or oral bids at the reunion banquet. Or I could put it on eBay and keep all the money myself ;-). That was a joke. I really would like to see another Bunker get this. And I would like to confine the participants to members of the Bunker Family Assn. I have the one piece which will go to my children, grandchildren, etc. I don't need another. Please let me know what you would prefer. Thanks. Bette

    09/21/2003 03:05:09
    1. Bunkers in history
    2. Bette Richards
    3. Who was the first Bunker recorded in English records and where did he live? What happened to John Bunker in 1851 to inspire Sampson Giles to wax poetic about it? Do you have a copy of the will transcriptions for Roger Bunker, Oliver Bunker, William Bunker and Joan Bunker? They are all ancestors of the American Nantucket and Charleston Bunkers and many English Bunkers. How about records pertaining to George Bunker of Bunker Hill, Charleston, MA? A picture of the Bunker Garrison House? James Bunker's will? How about the names of the ships that our whaling Bunkers commanded? Military Bunkers, French and Indian Wars, Revolutionary War, War of 1812? Who took down the flag at Corregidor in WW II? Where were Bunkers living in 1850? What did Mrs. Abigail Bunker do that was so extraordinary? How about Edward Bunker, Mormon pioneer? And then of course, there were the horse thieves, Will and Charlie Bunker. Alonzo Bunker's encounter with Jesse James, et al. If you can't answer all the questions or have no clue what I am talking about contact Gil Bunker about his screamin deal on the Bunker Family History. gilbunker@snip.net This is a great book at a great price and full of interesting things about your family. Wouldn't you like to have everyone in your family have one? Especially to keep for the grandchildren either here now or to come. Great Christmas gifts. Great for the kids to use as a source for interesting school papers about their very own family in historical events. Bette

    09/21/2003 02:38:16
    1. WW II casualties
    2. Bette Richards
    3. http://www.archives.gov/research_room/arc/wwii/army_aaf_honor_list/table_of_ contents.html Lists the casualties in WW II by state and county for army and army air corps personnel. There is also a link for Navy and Marines. Be aware that there is no surname search here. You have to go through each county to look for the surname. There were a lot of casualties in WW II. Good source but it takes time to search it. Bette

    09/21/2003 01:51:21
    1. Bunker Family History book sale
    2. Gil Bunker
    3. Some of you may have missed the BFA Holiday Sale ad. Until Dec 31, 2003, the history book can be purchased at the reduced price of 2 for $25.00, with free postage or you may purchase 1 for $15.00 with free shipping. They make great gifts for you children or grandchildren. gil

    09/20/2003 05:42:09
    1. Stephen Bunker
    2. Bette Richards
    3. This is what Carol sent along with his picture. Interesting man. Bette The family bible states that Stephen Fales Bunker was born in Athens, Maine, on December 12, 1840. Official records have his age at the date of enlistment as 18. In all post war pension applications he goes by the Dec 12, 1843, date until late in life. When he was able to get an increased pension at age 70, he, for the first time, claimed that he was born in 1840. He was living in the small community of Empire, near Farmington, in Dakota County, Minnesota, when the war began. He volunteered and was mustered into service on April 29, 1861. He became a private in Company H of the First Minnesota Infantry. He was 5' 7 1/2" tall, had a dark complexion, black eyes and black hair. Stephen was wounded in the right forearm at the battle at Bull Run, on July 21, 1861. The musket ball entered near the elbow and was eventually cut out near his wrist half way around from the point where it entered. The orderly sergeant noted on the monthly muster roll, for the company, that Stephen would probably be discharged. He was sent to recover at a General Hospital in Alexandria, Va, for four weeks. Dr Daniel Hand signed his Certificate of Discharge for Disability on Dec 10, 1861 at the regiment's camp at Camp Stone, Md. He returned home to Minnesota, but toward the end of the war he entered the service once again. On Feb 15, 1864, he enlisted in Company F, 2nd Minnesota Cavalry. He served until the war's conclusion and was mustered out, with the unit, on Dec 2, 1865. On May 26, 1866, Stephen married Adelaide V Bishop Bunker. They were married at the Hennepin County Court House. They raised seven children. They were Lewis A, Frank L, Fred J, Le Roy, Arthur L, Delbert E and Sylvira M Bunker. As of 1879, he was working as a clerk and they were living in Middleville in Wright County. In 1892 the town changed its' name to Howard Lake. In 1902 and 1903 his address was 1408 Clinton Ave S in Minneapolis. In 1906 he was at #47 12th Street South in Minneapolis. In 1907 he was living at 3728 5th Ave S, also in Minneapolis. All this movement would indicate that his wife was not with him and he was on his own and drifting from place to place. At some time he moved to Seattle, Washington, perhaps to live with one of his children. According to the 1910 and 1917 rosters of the surviving veterans of the First Minnesota his address was 7033 Jones Ave NW, in Seattle. That was his place of residence until he death on Jan 9, 1924, at the age of 81. He is buried is Seattle, at the Evergreen-Washelli Cemetery. Sources: National Archives military service records, Stephen F Bunker. National Archives pension records, Stephen F Bunker. Discharge Certificate. Roster of the First Minnesota Infantry, 1910. Roster of the Survivors, First Minnesota Volunteer Infantry, 1917.

    09/20/2003 01:42:48
    1. list
    2. Bette Richards
    3. A lot of times I get answers or queries from people in reply to messages that I put on the mailing list. Some of these are very interesting and very informative. I am not the list master, Doug Detling is, but I know that he monitors the list and likes it when we get into discussions about our family. When you want to reply to a message on the list, hit reply all and you will send a message to the list and also to the one who sent the original message. That means one person gets two replies but everyone else gets to enjoy and learn too. You cannot send attachments to the list. Those are blocked to prevent viruses. If you want to copy something from one message to put in your reply, just highlight that part of the message and click on edit and then copy. In the new message click on edit and then paste and viola! the message is there. I know most of you know this but we get new people all the time who are not familiar with these procedures so I try to stay as simple as possible. I can remember the days when I could not copy and paste and had to learn how to do that. Thanks to all the computer experts that answered my questions about the funny email and keeping my genealogy program on a different drive. I learned something new. Thanks also to all those concerned about my family in NC. They are heading back to their jobs now. Of course, they bring their home with them. Neither of them has ever seen the devastation of a storm like that. I expect to get a lot of pictures and awesome comments. Having lived in SD I have seen tornadoes a lot but never a storm as bad as a hurricane. I really enjoyed the information about Stephen Bunker. Gil and I have just been working on the Civil War vets and trying to get as much information as possible in the database. Carol just sent me a neat picture of Stephen Bunker. If anyone else would like it, put a message on the list and perhaps she will send you one. Bette

    09/20/2003 01:34:29
    1. RE: Stephen F. Bunker
    2. Bunkers, Suzanne
    3. A little historical background: Formerly known as the "Sioux War," now known as the "Dakota and U.S. Army Conflict," these battles took place throughout south-central Minnesota in 1862. The New Ulm area (near Mankato) was the central battle area. At the end of the conflict, Pres. Abraham Lincoln condemned 303 Dakota warriors to death; due to the intervention of Bishop Henry Whipple, however, Lincoln commuted the sentences of all but 38 Dakota. The "Dakota 28," as they have become known, were handed in a mass hanging in Mankato on December 26, 1862. On Jan. 1, 1863, Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. In the past 25 years, reconciliation efforts between the descendants of the Dakota and the descendants of the white settles have begun. This weekend marks the annual Mankato Pow Wow, which is part of those efforts. Suzanne L. Bunkers, Ph.D. Professor of English Office: 207G Armstrong Hall Phone: 507-389-5503 or 507-389-2117 (Department office) Minnesota State University Mankato MN 56001 Home page: http://krypton.mnsu.edu/~susanna <http://krypton.mnsu.edu/~susanna> "Peace. Salaam. Shalom." -----Original Message----- From: Bette Richards [mailto:betterichs@earthlink.net] Sent: Fri 19-Sep-03 7:41 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: RE: Stephen F. Bunker Stephen Fales Bunker D-449. Our records show that he was born 12 Dec 1840. He joined the service 23 May 1861 and was wounded at the Battle of Bull Run 12 July 1861 and discharged due to his disability on 15 Dec 1861. Not to be deterred, he reenlisted in the 2nd MN Cavalry 15 Feb 1865 and served until he was mustered out 2 Dec 1865. However, that was not enough for our Stephen. He had previously served in the Sioux Indian Wars in Minnesota. He was the son of John Gennings Bunker and Sylvira Rollins. He was descended from James Bunker of Dover, NH. He married Adelaide Victoria Martin 26 May 1866 and had 7 children, 6 boys named Lewis, Frank, Frederick, Leroy and Delbert and one girl named Sylvira. Son, Frank served in the Spanish American War. Stephen's biography was published in the Bunker Banner August 1994, p. 807 and he is recorded in the 1975 Bunker Genealogy p. 202. Bette -----Original Message----- From: David & Carol Eddleman [mailto:deddle@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:41 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Stephen F. Bunker Can you tell me who Stephen F. Bunker (b. Dec. 12, 1843 Athens, Maine and d. Jan. 9, 1924 in Seattle, Wash.) is descended from? He served in the First Minnesota during the Civil War. This info is from their webpage. Carol C. Eddleman Bedford Co. PaGenWeb www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/ Donation to the Pa-Roots project at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/paypage/P3VUT241DCQCBV ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original. ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Want more information on the Bunker Family Association? Send an e-mail message to gilbunker@snip.net and receive our current newsletter, and a pedigree chart of your Bunker ancestors (if they can be located in our files).

    09/20/2003 12:16:45
    1. Stephen F. Bunker
    2. David & Carol Eddleman
    3. Can you tell me who Stephen F. Bunker (b. Dec. 12, 1843 Athens, Maine and d. Jan. 9, 1924 in Seattle, Wash.) is descended from? He served in the First Minnesota during the Civil War. This info is from their webpage. Carol C. Eddleman Bedford Co. PaGenWeb www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/ Donation to the Pa-Roots project at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/paypage/P3VUT241DCQCBV

    09/19/2003 12:40:57
    1. RE: Stephen F. Bunker
    2. Bette Richards
    3. Stephen Fales Bunker D-449. Our records show that he was born 12 Dec 1840. He joined the service 23 May 1861 and was wounded at the Battle of Bull Run 12 July 1861 and discharged due to his disability on 15 Dec 1861. Not to be deterred, he reenlisted in the 2nd MN Cavalry 15 Feb 1865 and served until he was mustered out 2 Dec 1865. However, that was not enough for our Stephen. He had previously served in the Sioux Indian Wars in Minnesota. He was the son of John Gennings Bunker and Sylvira Rollins. He was descended from James Bunker of Dover, NH. He married Adelaide Victoria Martin 26 May 1866 and had 7 children, 6 boys named Lewis, Frank, Frederick, Leroy and Delbert and one girl named Sylvira. Son, Frank served in the Spanish American War. Stephen's biography was published in the Bunker Banner August 1994, p. 807 and he is recorded in the 1975 Bunker Genealogy p. 202. Bette -----Original Message----- From: David & Carol Eddleman [mailto:deddle@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 3:41 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Stephen F. Bunker Can you tell me who Stephen F. Bunker (b. Dec. 12, 1843 Athens, Maine and d. Jan. 9, 1924 in Seattle, Wash.) is descended from? He served in the First Minnesota during the Civil War. This info is from their webpage. Carol C. Eddleman Bedford Co. PaGenWeb www.pa-roots.com/~bedford/ Donation to the Pa-Roots project at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/paypage/P3VUT241DCQCBV ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original.

    09/19/2003 11:41:46
    1. Re: how viruses and worms work
    2. H.A. Kippenhan, Jr.
    3. Hi all: >From: "Bette Richards" <betterichs@earthlink.net> >To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: how viruses and worms work >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:08:41 -0700 > >I am sending this to the list hoping that Kipp and some of our other very >computer savvy people will explain on the list in simple terms for us >computer dummies the answers to these two questions. > Let's not use the word dummies. I do computer support for a living; hence, I have more exposure to these things than most home users. Einstein, I am not. ;-) > >1) I get an email from an automatic service that tells me that a message I >sent was not delivered because the addressee was not known, etc. I never >sent a message to this person and have no clue who they are. How can this >happen? Keep in mind that as far as I know I have never had a virus or >worm. I always have up-to-date virus protection and a firewall too. No >scan >has ever indicated that I have an infected file. > The recent worms (SoBig, Blaster) install themselves as a trojan program on your PC (if you run Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP). As soon as the trojan starts, it looks at the address book file on the infected PC and sends a message (virus attached) to each address in the address book. It also picks a *random* address in the address book and uses that as the 'from' address. So everybody in the address book file gets sent a message, complete with virus, and with (for example) betterichs@earthlink.net as the sender. Some mail recipients trap the message and send back to the sender (they have no idea that it's not betterichs@earthlink.net) a message to the effect that Bette has sent them a virus. Just take those messages and discard them. Nothing constructive can be done with them. > >2) My computer has more than one hard drive. Most things (email, >downloads, etc.) come in through my C drive. I keep my genealogy programs >on my E drive. I keep my pictures and documents on my D drive. I had it >set up this way in the hopes that my genealogy programs would be better >protected from viruses and worms. Am I correct in my belief that a virus >could wipe out my C drive and the things on my D and E drive would be >unharmed? I know that I can reformat the C drive, which essentially erases >everything on it, and it has no effect on the other drives. Is this a good >way to keep your genealogy programs safe from viruses and worms? > Most of the worms/viruses I've seen are coded such that they do damage on the C: drive. That written, you simply cannot depend on that continuing to be the case. It would not take much additional code to do rude things to your D: or E: drive. The only insurance you have is to back up the data files you consider valuable / important. > >Kipp and others please remember that many people on this list do not even >understand what I am talking about when I say I have more than one hard >drive on my computer. I am wondering in this era of nearly daily attacks >from worms and viruses, it might not be a good idea for us genealogist >types >to put our programs on a different drive from their C drive. > I would council regular backups and an up-to-date antivirus product as a better strategy. > >Thanks for letting us pick your brains. > >Bette > These are very good questions, glad to help. BTW, there is a bogus e-mail message going around (virus attached) that purports to be from Microsoft. I can't stress this enough to those who read this list. Microsoft does not distribute patches via e-mail. Microsoft does not notify it's customer base of security problems via e-mail. If you have questions about a questionable e-mail, check the following web site ... http://securityresponse.symantec.com/ I don't promote Norton antivirus over other vendors (e.g. - McAfee). I just find their web pages regarding current worm / virus threats very informative. Best regards - Kipp - _________________________________________________________________ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com

    09/19/2003 08:20:31
    1. Italian, Greek, Irish, German sources
    2. Bette Richards
    3. NEHGS this week is recommending this website for lots of links and information. It is amazing. This one is right up there with Cyndis List for its wealth of links. Try it for almost anything. http://www.daddezio.com/ Bette

    09/19/2003 07:47:42
    1. Do not download so-called "Microsoft patch virus" -- read on
    2. Bunkers, Suzanne
    3. There is another worm making the rounds and it tries to fool you into thinking that it is a patch from Microsoft. Microsoft NEVER distributes patches via email. Ever. You can read the details about this new worm here. http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.html <http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.swen.a@mm.html> Please, under no circumstances should you install anything that you receive via email. If you have any questions or concerns, please ask me or any other member of the district tech staff. Suzanne L. Bunkers, Ph.D. Professor of English Office: 207G Armstrong Hall Phone: 507-389-5503 or 507-389-2117 (Department office) Minnesota State University Mankato MN 56001 Home page: http://krypton.mnsu.edu/~susanna <http://krypton.mnsu.edu/~susanna> "Peace. Salaam. Shalom." -----Original Message----- From: Mary-Gene Page [mailto:mgpage@unlimited.net] Sent: Fri 19-Sep-03 8:37 AM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: Microsoft patch virus I have received an average of two a day messages purportedly from microsoft.com, all saying the same thing: upload this patch immediately. Every one of those messages was infected with a virus, according to the virus screen that my ISP uses. I finally told the ISP to delete the sender any time anything arrived from them, but for now I have to rely on the newspaper or messages from friends like you or Kipp to alert me to new viruses. In the beginning I did go to Microsoft to download a patch, but learned that the new worm/virus messages were attacking the Windows programs which were NEWER than the Win98. (It's all the later ones, XE, 2000, etc.) One of the beneifts of not keeping up to date! The problem is, if there should be one come down the road that includes Win98, now I won't be warned by Microsoft. Mary-Gene Bette Richards wrote: > I rarely send out anything about viruses. However, my virus protection just > stopped and deleted two different messages supposedly from Microsoft Support > and Support Services for a new patch that should be installed immediately. > Both were infected with a virus. Norton caught it and deleted it but if you > get a message like this it is a good idea to delete it and go to the > Microsoft website to check for any needed updates or patches. If you go to > the website to get any needed patches or updates you should be okay but when > they come as an attachment to an email message be very careful. Also be > sure to update your virus protection regularly. If you do not have an > automatic update feature on your virus protection, check for an update every > time you turn on your computer. > > Bette > > > > ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== > Want more information on the Bunker Family Association? Send an e-mail message to gilbunker@snip.net and receive our current newsletter, and a pedigree chart of your Bunker ancestors (if they can be located in our files). > > > ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Want more information on the Bunker Family Association? Send an e-mail message to gilbunker@snip.net and receive our current newsletter, and a pedigree chart of your Bunker ancestors (if they can be located in our files).

    09/19/2003 05:49:33
    1. Re: Microsoft patch virus
    2. Mary-Gene Page
    3. I have received an average of two a day messages purportedly from microsoft.com, all saying the same thing: upload this patch immediately. Every one of those messages was infected with a virus, according to the virus screen that my ISP uses. I finally told the ISP to delete the sender any time anything arrived from them, but for now I have to rely on the newspaper or messages from friends like you or Kipp to alert me to new viruses. In the beginning I did go to Microsoft to download a patch, but learned that the new worm/virus messages were attacking the Windows programs which were NEWER than the Win98. (It's all the later ones, XE, 2000, etc.) One of the beneifts of not keeping up to date! The problem is, if there should be one come down the road that includes Win98, now I won't be warned by Microsoft. Mary-Gene Bette Richards wrote: > I rarely send out anything about viruses. However, my virus protection just > stopped and deleted two different messages supposedly from Microsoft Support > and Support Services for a new patch that should be installed immediately. > Both were infected with a virus. Norton caught it and deleted it but if you > get a message like this it is a good idea to delete it and go to the > Microsoft website to check for any needed updates or patches. If you go to > the website to get any needed patches or updates you should be okay but when > they come as an attachment to an email message be very careful. Also be > sure to update your virus protection regularly. If you do not have an > automatic update feature on your virus protection, check for an update every > time you turn on your computer. > > Bette > > > > ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== > Want more information on the Bunker Family Association? Send an e-mail message to gilbunker@snip.net and receive our current newsletter, and a pedigree chart of your Bunker ancestors (if they can be located in our files). > > >

    09/19/2003 12:37:25
    1. Re: how viruses and worms work
    2. Dean Scribner
    3. Bette Richards writes: "I get an email from an automatic service that tells me that a message I sent was not delivered because the addressee was not known, etc. I never sent a message to this person and have no clue who they are. How can this happen?" The sender has harvested your address from messages you have sent to various mailing lists, the same way the junk advertisers do with snail-mail. He may also be impersonating the supposed sender's address. "Am I correct in my belief that a virus could wipe out my C drive and the things on my D and E drive would be unharmed?" Maybe sometimes, but if the virus resides in memory it might not make any difference. "I know that I can reformat the C drive, which essentially erases everything on it, and it has no effect on the other drives. Is this a good way to keep your genealogy programs safe from viruses and worms? It might make these sleazy characters work harder, but the best thing you can do is to keep your antivirus definitions updated often, and NEVER open an attachment unless it is from someone you know and trust AND you know what it is and are expecting it. Dean No guru, but a born skeptic.

    09/18/2003 04:02:29
    1. how viruses and worms work
    2. Bette Richards
    3. I am sending this to the list hoping that Kipp and some of our other very computer savvy people will explain on the list in simple terms for us computer dummies the answers to these two questions. 1) I get an email from an automatic service that tells me that a message I sent was not delivered because the addressee was not known, etc. I never sent a message to this person and have no clue who they are. How can this happen? Keep in mind that as far as I know I have never had a virus or worm. I always have up-to-date virus protection and a firewall too. No scan has ever indicated that I have an infected file. 2) My computer has more than one hard drive. Most things (email, downloads, etc.) come in through my C drive. I keep my genealogy programs on my E drive. I keep my pictures and documents on my D drive. I had it set up this way in the hopes that my genealogy programs would be better protected from viruses and worms. Am I correct in my belief that a virus could wipe out my C drive and the things on my D and E drive would be unharmed? I know that I can reformat the C drive, which essentially erases everything on it, and it has no effect on the other drives. Is this a good way to keep your genealogy programs safe from viruses and worms? Kipp and others please remember that many people on this list do not even understand what I am talking about when I say I have more than one hard drive on my computer. I am wondering in this era of nearly daily attacks from worms and viruses, it might not be a good idea for us genealogist types to put our programs on a different drive from their C drive. Thanks for letting us pick your brains. Bette

    09/18/2003 03:08:41