The NEHGS has a free newsletter that you can subscribe to at www.newenglandancestors.org/articles/research/?page_id=659&attrib1=1&seq_num =6. This newsletter keeps you up to date on the new acquisitions and online databases of the society. For instance, they have some of the vital records of Massachusetts online and that database contains 222 records on Bunker marriages, births and deaths. The cost of membership to this society is high but if you are only researching your own personal lines you could probably exhaust most of the possibilities in one year. The BFA historian has a membership and will do research for you but this is only on your Bunker lines. This society has been in existence for over 100 years. One of the times we go to Dover, I really need to get to Boston and visit in person. You might find some interesting information here. Bette

As are we all...proud of Cesar, and proud of all the fine, stalwart young men and women to are fighting to save us from terrorists, and to being freedom to despotic regimes that foster terrorists! Betty Bunker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette" <betterichs@earthlink.net> To: <BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: military matters > My son-in-law, Cesar Abreu, is a Chief Warrant Officer in the US Army, > Criminal Investigation Division presently stationed in Germany. In > listening to the reports of the abuse of prisoners in Iraq I am gratified to > see that when only one soldier complained of the abuse taking place the very > next day the CID started investigating. Within less than 90 days charges > were brought. 6 court martials have occurred so far I believe, although I > may be wrong in the number and they may not have been resolved as yet. I am > very proud of the fact that Cesar is a part of the CID. It seems like they > were doing their job quite well. Most of our soldiers are doing their jobs > quite well. Many of our family members are serving in the military now and > we should be proud of them. > > Sorry for the political comment. The historians and president of the BFA > regularly work on recording our military family members. Even though I am > adamantly opposed to any war, I am extremely proud of the fact that members > of my family have served in every war the US has ever had and I am > especially proud of Cesar. > > Bette > > > > ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== > Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original. > > > >

20 shillings in a pound (the shilling was abolished in 1971? when GB went decimal) 12 old pennies in a shilling (that was OLD pence before decimalisation) there were 240 old pennies in a pound. A shilling was also called a florin. the symbol d stood for old pennies A half crown was two shillings and six pence Eight half crowns equalled 1 pound. A sixpenny piece also known as a tanner A threepenny piece also called a throupenny bit. There was also a halfpenny piece and last was a farthing which was a quarter of an old penny piece. There was also a term called a GUINEA which was one pound and one shilling. There was no coin or paper money for this sum. A lot of things many years ago were charged in Guinea's and until very recently horses at bloodstock auctions and Christie's auction house sold there 'lots' in Guinea's which confused everyone not from GB and under 50 years old. Remember little of the above have been used in this country for 30 years or more. Regards Paul Bunker Northumberland England

I did not notice until Mary-Gene told me that the money explanations were not going to the list. I will try to copy one of the messages since we cannot forward or attach things to list emails. Two errors below , a crown , of which there was no coin in regular use was 5 shillings , ie 60 d . old pence Latin denarii; half a crown , 2 shillings and 6 pence ie 30 d was a coin in regular use , it was my pocket money for years as a boy. There was also a 2 shilling coin. There were 240 pence (d) in a £ As a matter of interest in Victoria's reign there were minted half 1d's and third 1d's , tiny coins , minted for use in the colonies mostly, you remember colonies like when America was ruled properly before independence. Brian Bunker. Brian Bunker. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Bunker" <bbunker@stonemedia.com> We lived in England before they went to decimal coinage. The "d" is the old designation for pennies. The "p" is the new designation. There were 20 shillings to the pound, 12 pennies to a shilling (hence the sixpence, threepence [thruppence], twopence [tuppence], and half penny [pronounced hape-ney]. There were also Crowns (two and a half shillings, or 30 pennies), and half-Crowns (15 pennies). A Guinea was a pound plus one shilling. Clothing and lots of other items were frequently priced in guineas, that pricing system being considered quite posh. One had to be very careful or would end up spending more than planned. Unfortunately, first the Common Market, then the European Union came along and changed everything. Granted, the decimal system is easier to figure in a hurry, but not nearly as much fun! Betty Bunker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette" <betterichs@earthlink.net> To all our English relatives out there, would at least one of you take pity on me and send to the list an explanation of your money? £ = pound I know S = shilling I think but how many shillings in a pound? p = pence I know but how many pence in a shilling and how many in a pound? d = what the heck is this? Incidentally anyone can make a £ sign by just holding down the alt key and on the number pad typing 156 I also know that right now your pound is worth almost $2 but that isn't what I need. When I read old wills I need to understand what the above symbols mean and how they relate to each other. Thanks a lot. Bette

My son-in-law, Cesar Abreu, is a Chief Warrant Officer in the US Army, Criminal Investigation Division presently stationed in Germany. In listening to the reports of the abuse of prisoners in Iraq I am gratified to see that when only one soldier complained of the abuse taking place the very next day the CID started investigating. Within less than 90 days charges were brought. 6 court martials have occurred so far I believe, although I may be wrong in the number and they may not have been resolved as yet. I am very proud of the fact that Cesar is a part of the CID. It seems like they were doing their job quite well. Most of our soldiers are doing their jobs quite well. Many of our family members are serving in the military now and we should be proud of them. Sorry for the political comment. The historians and president of the BFA regularly work on recording our military family members. Even though I am adamantly opposed to any war, I am extremely proud of the fact that members of my family have served in every war the US has ever had and I am especially proud of Cesar. Bette

Thanks to everybody for their explanations of the English monetary denominations. It is especially helpful for the explanations of the old system and that was the one in use for our old wills and probates. I suggest that all of you who might encounter an English ancestor keep a copy of at least one of the explanations for future use. Bette

We lived in England before they went to decimal coinage. The "d" is the old designation for pennies. The "p" is the new designation. There were 20 shillings to the pound, 12 pennies to a shilling (hence the sixpence, threepence [thruppence], twopence [tuppence], and half penny [pronounced hape-ney]. There were also Crowns (two and a half shillings, or 30 pennies), and half-Crowns (15 pennies). A Guinea was a pound plus one shilling. Clothing and lots of other items were frequently priced in guineas, that pricing system being considered quite posh. One had to be very careful or would end up spending more than planned. Unfortunately, first the Common Market, then the European Union came along and changed everything. Granted, the decimal system is easier to figure in a hurry, but not nearly as much fun! Betty Bunker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette" <betterichs@earthlink.net> To: <BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:51 PM Subject: English money To all our English relatives out there, would at least one of you take pity on me and send to the list an explanation of your money? £ = pound I know S = shilling I think but how many shillings in a pound? p = pence I know but how many pence in a shilling and how many in a pound? d = what the heck is this? Incidentally anyone can make a £ sign by just holding down the alt key and on the number pad typing 156 I also know that right now your pound is worth almost $2 but that isn't what I need. When I read old wills I need to understand what the above symbols mean and how they relate to each other. Thanks a lot. Bette ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original.

To all our English relatives out there, would at least one of you take pity on me and send to the list an explanation of your money? £ = pound I know S = shilling I think but how many shillings in a pound? p = pence I know but how many pence in a shilling and how many in a pound? d = what the heck is this? Incidentally anyone can make a £ sign by just holding down the alt key and on the number pad typing 156 I also know that right now your pound is worth almost $2 but that isn't what I need. When I read old wills I need to understand what the above symbols mean and how they relate to each other. Thanks a lot. Bette

The Federation of Genealogical Societies had these source in their latest edition of FORUM. British India information http://www.indiaman.com Life on the Midwest Prairies http://www.connerprairie.org Riley Co., KS Genealogical Society http://www.rileycgs.com Life styles of coal miners in PA http://www.coalandcoke.org Hamburg Emigrant list with nearly 2 million entries http://www.hamburg.de/fhh/behoerden/staatsarchiv/link_to_your_roots/english/ index.htm Irish in NY city http://www.inyc.freeservers.com Bette

Cousins, Can anyone answer Barbara Erickson's query posted on GenForum? gil Hello, I am looking for information on William Alfred Bunker sr.He married Elizabeth Ann Thatcher.Two children born to this union James Daniel, Ann Elizabeth( my grandmother ). William Alfred died in England and is burried there some where in the weslbury area.Any information would greatly be appericated.Thank you

Hello cousins, Spotted May 1st, on Forensic Files (Court TV channel) was Judith Bunker, a blood splatter expert. Can anybody identify this interesting cousin? I hope no one got dizzy dancing around the May pole :-) gil

I found two Ralphs in the Minnesota Death Index and can't figure out where they belong. Can anyone help? Ralph M. Bunker b. Dec 19, 1942, CT, d. 22 Apr 2001 Ralph Cyrel Bunker b. Jul 18, 1926, Naytahwaush, MN, d. 22-10-2002 Thanks. Bette

Dick Eastman's newsletter this week has a link to a new government database containing the burial places of veterans and some of their wives. There are over 80 Bunkers on this list with dates of birth, dates of death and rank and branch of service. http://www.cem.va.gov/locate.htm Bette

I'm pleased to announce the birth of my first grandson, Bryant Aldon Detling, b. April 21, 2004 to Robin and Teniel Thompson Detling in Sacramento, Sacramento Co., California. Mother and son are both home from the hospital and doing fine. Douglas G. Detling (D15-II) - Bunker Family Association web site/e-mail coordinator ddetling@charter.net visit the BFA web site at: www.bunkerfamilyassn.org/index.html

Bunky, The Banner was delivered to the mailer Friday afternoon. Look for it next week :-) gil

From Rootsweb Review a list of merchants in London in 1677. No Bunkers but maybe someone else you might be interested in. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~frpayments/LM1677/ Old disease descriptions. http://www.paul_smith.doctors.org.uk/ArchaicMedicalTerms.htm and http://www.cyndislist.com/medical.htm#Diseases Battle of Hastings 1066 when William the Conqueror came to England http://www.battle1066.com/ Bette

Here's an idea - if you're visiting a new cemetery. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TOGA] Memorial Day Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:41:35 -0600 Resent-From: ONEAL-GENEALOGY-ASSOCIATION-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:41:37 -0400 From: John W. O'Neal, II <johnoneal@onealwebsite.com> Reply-To: johnoneal@onealwebsite.com To: ONEAL-GENEALOGY-ASSOCIATION-L@rootsweb.com Hello, List, With Memorial Day weekend coming up, I have a suggestion for those of you who are going to be decorating / visiting graves. Put a note with your name, address or e-mail address in a plastic bag. Attach it to the base of the tombstone with a stick in the dirt, so it won't blow away, or on the grave with a stone. You may find a cousin you didn't know you had. You know, the one with the Family Bible and the trunk in the attic stuffed full of old photos? Cuz'n, John John W. O'Neal, II ==== ONEAL-GENEALOGY-ASSOCIATION Mailing List ==== To view our latest O'Neal Genealogy Data visit our Rootsweb World Connect page at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=onealwebsite&id=I0459 ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Common Census Abbreviations http://genealogy.about.com/cs/census/a/abbreviations.htm No matter where in the world they are taken, census schedules usually offer very little room. Therefore, census takers often found it necessary to use abbreviations to get all of the required information onto the census form. These abbreviations - ranging from Na for naturalized to AdD for adopted daughter -- can provide important information that you should not overlook! Examples: Citizenship Status Codes: Al - Alien (not naturalized) Pa - First papers filed (declaration of intent) Na - Naturalized NR - Not recorded or not reported Household & Soundex Abbreviations: Ad - Adopted Ad AdCl - Adopted Child AdD - Adopted Daughter Sally Rolls Pavia Sun City, AZ sallypavia2001@yahoo.com "To live in the hearts we leave behind, is never to have died." List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

Rifles crackled and cannons rumbled across the marsh as the crew of the Confederate submarine H.L. Hunley was laid to rest, 140 years after the vessel became the first sub in history to sink an enemy warship. Thousands of re-enactors in Confederate gray and Union blue marched in a funeral cortege a mile-and-a-half long as the crewmen, in coffins draped with Confederate flags and pulled on horse-drawn caissons, were taken to their resting place. Read the rest of the story at: www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/17/national/main612416.shtml?cmp=EM8707 or http://tinyurl.com/2v4e6 This is interesting for the history and Genealogy.

Truer words were never spoken! It is a real headache. I got 163 emails today, 7 or 8 of which were of interest to me. Betty Bunker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette" <betterichs@earthlink.net> To: <BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:19 AM Subject: hackers > I was reading an article recently that said the average time it takes for a > computer that is online 24-7 connected by a high speed DSL connection to be > hacked is less than 24 hours. We watch for viruses and worms in our email > and NEVER open an attachment that says .exe. But the busy little hackers > get into our computers any time and can do all kinds of things including > using our email to send out spam. I have several blockers on my computers. > One is a virus program (mine happens to be Norton but there are several good > ones). Then I have a fire wall on each computer. Then I have a firewall on > the router connecting my computer to the internet DSL connection. I also > use a spam blocker program which many of you have encountered. That program > grabs about 60 messages a day and prevents them from getting to me. Most of > them are porn and the illegal sale of prescription drugs. With all this > blocking, how long do you think it would take for a hacker to hack into my > computers? About a few seconds. No matter what we do they get through. > The very best programs cannot stop them. The federal government's top > security sites are regularly hacked. Some juveniles and people with > juvenile minds think this is the most clever thing they can do. > > My spam blocker program regularly blocks messages allegedly returned by the > mail demons that contend that they could not be delivered. These frequently > contain viruses and worms. I never sent them but this is one of the latest > scams to get people to open mail with viruses. Then there are the messages > that purport to come from earthlink, aol, microsoft and others that say we > need to know about a security issue immediately. These are all done by > naughty people as the companies NEVER send these kind of emails. And we get > messages that our order or account needs some work. Again these are NEVER > sent by the companies. > > Email is in serious danger of becoming extinct for the simple reason that we > cannot deal with all this junk. I use the internet for genealogical > research and email. I never use it for anything else. We cannot control > these hackers, and porn pedlers. They route their messages through other > countries. Most originate in other countries. As soon as someone is on to > them, they close that box and open another one. No laws we make are going > to make any difference at all. The latest is for people to use the TDD for > deaf people and stolen credit card numbers to order things by the gross and > send it to foreign countries. > > I work very hard to stop spam mail and also any viruses or worms from > attacking my computers. Hopefully, I will keep ahead of these guys. One > thing I definitely do NOT want to do is see a charge of 1 cent per email as > Bill Gates has proposed. Who is going to get charged? The recipient? How > will we charge the sender that is in another country? Will everything go > through Microsoft as Gates wants it to? Not a good idea at all in my > opinion. End of editorial. I have no solution for this. > > Bette > > > ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== > Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original. > > > >