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    1. Ohio
    2. Bette
    3. This site may be helpful to those of you who have ancestors in Ohio. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~henryhowesbook/ This came from the weekly RootsWeb Review. This e-zine is publishing a weekly help aid on doing research. It walks you through several places to search. The e-zine is free and so is RootsWeb. I highly recommend it. To sign up for this go to http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ Bette ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project.

    11/24/2004 02:37:21
    1. Andrew/Alexander Bunker
    2. Bette
    3. Nancy Decker found an interesting new Bunker family that is not in our database. Does anyone recognize this family? Andrew Bunker or Alexander Bunker (1870 census lists him as Andrew and 1880 as Alexander), b. either 1814 or 1817 in New York, parents b. New Hampshire. In 1870 he was living in New York City with his wife, Diana b either 1817 or 1819 in New York and their children: Elmira b. c. 1842 in NY and Washington Alex b May 1850 in Canada. Washington immigrated to the US in either 1857 or 1865 and married Isabella L. Gallon about 1882. They had no children. I can't find Andrew/Alexander and Diana in the 1860 census so I am inclined to think they did immigrate to the US about 1865. Andrew/Alexander and Diana appear in the 1870 and 1880 census. Washington Alex appears in the census from 1870-1910. Bette ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project.

    11/21/2004 01:00:35
    1. Society of Cincinnati (American Revolution)
    2. Bette
    3. Another free database from NEHGS. Bette The Massachusetts Society of the Cincinnati Profiles - Free Database! The Society of the Cincinnati was established in 1783 by and for the officers in Continental Service. It was organized in 14 constituent societies, one of which is the Massachusetts Society. Eligibility was based on the officer's length and terms of service. Membership in the Society of the Cincinnati was extended to the officers of the Continental Army - as well as Continental Navy and Marine officers - who had served until the end of the war, plus those who had been declared no longer needed by acts of Congress and those who had served honorably for three years during the war. Also eligible were the oldest male lineal descendants of officers who died in service. The officers of the French Navy and Army who served with the American Army were also entitled to join. This database contains information on those Massachusetts officers eligible for membership. Absence from this list does not conclusively exclude eligibility. The following member profiles were added to the database this week: Daniel Barnes, Daniel Bartlett, Ebenezer Beaumont/Bement, Elisha Brewer, Andrew Brown, David Bryant, Abraham Childs, Asa Coburn, Dudley Coleman, and Abel Cooley. Search the Massachusetts Society of the Cincinnati Profiles at http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/database/msc/. ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project.

    11/21/2004 03:34:36
    1. NEHGS free
    2. Bette
    3. This is a great site and a must for anyone doing New England research. Now part of the database is being offered free for the holiday weekend. Bette A Feast of Ancestors! Enjoy Free Access to the Register Online Over Thanksgiving Weekend! NEHGS is pleased to offer free access to its New England Historical and Genealogical Register database on NewEnglandAncestors.org over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend! Normally only available to NEHGS members, the Register database will be accessible to everyone from Thursday, November 25 through Sunday, November 28, 2004. We encourage all NEHGS members to spread the word about this offering, and we hope that those of you who are not members find a veritable feast of ancestors in the Register database! Published quarterly since 1847, The New England Historical and Genealogical Register is the flagship journal of American genealogy and the oldest journal in the field. The online database includes issues from 1847 to 1994. The Register has featured articles on a wide variety of topics since its inception, including vital records, church records, tax records, land and probate records, cemetery transcriptions, obituaries, and historical essays. Authoritative compiled genealogies have been the centerpiece of the Register for more than 150 years. Thousands of New England families have been treated in the pages of the journal and many more are referenced in incidental ways throughout. The articles in the Register range from short pieces correcting errors in print or solving unusual problems to larger treatments that reveal family origins or present multiple generations of a family. Look for details on how to obtain free access to the Register in a special eNews bulletin to be sent out Wednesday, November 24. A link will also be available on that date on the home page of our website, www.NewEnglandAncestors.org. ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project.

    11/21/2004 03:31:43
    1. RE: Update on the Bunker Family Association Web Site and RSS Feed
    2. Sorry folks, I meant to say "without fear" in the following line excerpted from an earlier e-mail message to the list. Doug -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Detling [mailto:doug.detling@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 5:51 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Update on the Bunker Family Association Web Site and RSS Feed ...The Bunker Family Association's web site was updated this weekend, with the main emphasis to increase the visibility of our web RSS feed.... [V]isit the site and explore the RSS feed a bit; this device will permit us to exchange information with fear that e-mails will be infected with viruses or blocked by various spam filters. ...

    11/14/2004 11:16:05
    1. Update on the Bunker Family Association Web Site and RSS Feed
    2. Douglas Detling
    3. The Bunker Family Association's web site was updated this weekend, with the main emphasis to increase the visibility of our web RSS feed. RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication, and permits us to add to the site easily. I would encourage you to visit the site and explore the RSS feed a bit; this device will permit us to exchange information with fear that e-mails will be infected with viruses or blocked by various spam filters. If you need help on finding an RSS reader, go to the web postings for some advice on them. We've included a link to a tutorial on RSS. Also, the page at http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org/blink.html has been updated to include some recent links uncovered by our BFA genealogist Bette Bunker Richards, and included on this page.

    11/14/2004 10:51:02
    1. Robert Bunker RN 21882 (U-1000)
    2. Bette
    3. Those of you researching this family should know that there are at least three records that indicate Robert was born in New Jersey, not New York. I cannot find census records for New Jersey for 1810 and 1820. Bette ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project.

    11/14/2004 04:38:12
    1. U.S. Surgeon General's Family History Initiative
    2. Sally Rolls Pavia
    3. U.S. Surgeon General's Family History Initiative Health care professionals have known for a long time that common diseases - heart disease, cancer, and diabetes - and even rare diseases - like hemophilia, cystic fibrosis, and sickle cell anemia - can run in families. If one generation of a family has high blood pressure, it is not unusual for the next generation to have similarly high blood pressure. Tracing the illnesses suffered by your parents, grandparents, and other blood relatives can help your doctor predict the disorders to which you may be at risk and take action to keep you and your family healthy. To help focus attention on the importance of family health history, U.S. Surgeon General Richard H. Carmona, M.D., M.P.H., in cooperation with other agencies within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has launched a national public health campaign, called the U.S. Surgeon General s Family History Initiative, to encourage all American families to learn more about their family health history. In addition to the Office of the Surgeon General, other HHS agencies involved in this project include the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ), and the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA). National Family History Day Surgeon General Carmona has declared Thanksgiving 2004 to be the first annual National Family History Day. Thanksgiving is the traditional start of the holiday season for most Americans. Whenever families gather, the Surgeon General encourages them to talk about, and to write down, the health problems that seem to run in their family. Learning about their family's health history may help ensure a longer future together. My Family Health Portrait Americans know that family history is important to health. A recent survey found that 96 percent of Americans believe that knowing their family history is important. Yet, the same survey found that only one-third of Americans have ever tried to gather and write down their family's health history. Because family health history is such a powerful screening tool, the Surgeon General has created a new computerized tool to help make it fun and easy for anyone to create a sophisticated portrait of their family's health. This new tool, called "My Family Health Portrait" can be downloaded for free and installed on your own computer. The tool will help you organize your family tree and help you identify common diseases that may run in your family. When you are finished, the tool will create and print out a graphical representation of your family's generations and the health disorders that may have moved from one generation to the next. That is a powerful tool for predicting any illnesses for which you should be checked. For information on other activities of the Office of the Surgeon General, please visit www.surgeongeneral.gov. Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com “We have not inherited the world from our forefathers, we have borrowed it from our children.” … Kashmiri Proverb List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    11/14/2004 01:48:28
    1. Fragments of a war History Forgot by Torcuil Crichton
    2. Sally Rolls Pavia
    3. Fragments of a war History Forgot Locals on Raasay in the Hebrides risked their lives to aid suffering German POWs held in their midst. So why is their struggle barely remembered? By Torcuil Crichton In a shallow valley, in the middle of a dense English forest, they lie beneath neat rows of blue granite headstones, 5000 dead from two world wars. Colin Lee has been tending the lines of heather-fringed gravestones for the past 20 years. “People living less than five miles away don't know this is here,” says Lee, drawing on a quiet afternoon cigar and scanning the rows stretching up either side of the slope. It should be no surprise then that few have heard of the Deutscher Soldatenfriedhof, the German war cemetery, at Cannock Chase, Staffordshire. Shrouded in birch, pine and larch, the remains of the German dead from both wars were collected from churchyards throughout Britain and re-buried in the purpose-built cemetery in the 1960s. Each stone marks four graves, with two names on either side. There are no regimental markings to distinguish or disgrace the dead. Many of the names are the common Saxon surnames of Britain and Germany, such as Brown (Braun) and Miller (Muller). Most of these were internees, innocent Germans who lived in Britain and were locked up on the outbreak of hostilities. The “internierter” inscription on their graves lends a guilty air to the woodland clearing. After conferring with his gothic-scripted ledger, Lee walks through the grass avenues to plot number 457. The shared headstone bears the names of Georg Kagerer and Paul Sosinka. The sight of those inscribed names closes a circle that has run from Staffordshire to Bavaria and to the Inner Hebrides. The names that share the Cannock grave are also carved on a headstone on Raasay, where these first world war German prisoners spent their last days. Raasay, a long sliver of an island in the lee of the Isle of Skye, was the location of one of the most unlikely prisoner of war camps ever and the setting for a remarkable story of how, away from the slaughter of the trenches, the spirit of human kindness triumphed over enmity. High above the village of Inverarish, the only settlement of any size on Raasay, and tucked behind another copse of trees, is the cemetery. There are few visitors to the massive carved boulder that bears the names of the two German soldiers, but there are plenty of other reminders of the presence of almost 300 of their wartime comrades on the island. The iron ore deposits on the island of Raasay were first identified just before the outbreaks of hostilities in 1914, and William Baird, the iron and mining company, opened a site, complete with a railway, a crusher, firing kilns and a huge pier. With war came massive demand for shells and the iron ore to produce them, and, of course, a lack of civilian manpower to work the Raasay mines. In 1916, Baird arranged for the operation to be run under the ministry of munitions with the labour of German prisoners. This contravened the Hague Conventions, a shameful act which the British government later attempted to cover up by destroying most of the records in 1920. It was only when the wage differential between island workers in the mines and the imported mainland labour led to a strike, that the illegal use of German POWs as strike-breakers became an issue. The story was taken up in the national press and raised in the House of Commons. A young Winston Churchill, minister for munitions, had to respond with embarrassing half-truths. Hidden by the British government, mentioned in passing by most chronicles of the Hebrides and confined to the past with the last generation, the history of the Raasay POWs is fragmented. The enormous concrete supports for the railway viaduct that carried ore from the mines to the pier head remain. They will last forever, but the story behind them has almost slipped through the fingers of time. John Ferguson sits in his front room, wedged in between an upright piano and the welcoming fireplace. In his hands he is tumbling what looks like an aged white porcelain tube. Hollow, about six inches tall, it has an intricate raised rose stem crafted on one side. Only the splayed base reveals that this vase is made not from fine clay but beef bone, carved by one of the German prisoners whose name appears in raised letters on the reverse. It is an amazing piece of work, grotesque and beautiful at the same time, and Ferguson rolls it through his hands over and over again, summoning up the past. “You see, they were very skilled craftsmen, the Germans,” he says, sifting through his memory for stories his father told him. “They were chosen for the work because of their trades. They could make anything from a needle to an anchor, and I've seen both on this island.” They also, he continues, made exquisite lacquered woo den jewel boxes. “And they made the jewellery to go inside them. From a sovereign they could make a ring that would fit your finger beautifully.” Ferguson’s house and mind are a treasure trove of artefacts and island stories. His late father, John Archie Ferguson, worked with the German POWs as a 14-year-old mining apprentice. “All that generation worked with the Germans,” says John Ferguson. “My father got on with them very well and he could speak German until his dying day. I think he looked on them as elder brothers.” There was a reason that the apprentice Ferguson and the prisoners developed a symbiotic attachment. One of his brothers was also a POW, in Germany, and because of that his mother was determined to keep the Germans boys on her doorstep, starving on half rations, alive. Jessie Ferguson (née MacDonald) from Applecross must have been some woman. A widow with seven children, she had lost a young daughter to appendicitis when her two eldest sons went to war in 1914. Kenneth and Fergie were with the Broadford and Raasay B company of the Camerons infantry regiment. Fergie who lied about his age to join up with his brother, was captured fighting in a rearguard action in France. He was the only survivor dragged out of a group of 30 dead and wounded soldiers by a German officer, his nephew recalls. For three years Fergie Ferguson languished in a German prison camp, during which time his mother on Raasay made a deal with herself to feed the German prisoners in the hope that someone would deliver the same providence to her son. “Everyone was living with the stress of waiting for a telegram coming through the door,” says John Ferguson. “She got sneers that she was feeding these dirty Germans and she put up with a lot, but she always used to say ‘these are some mother’s children, and so I hope that someone will be looking after mine’.” More than 280 German prisoners worked the Raasay mine for a two-year period. There is one contemporaneous account by a rather stunned Australian serviceman, on leave in the land of his forefathers, coming across German uniforms he had last encountered on the Western Front, but the people who rescued the history were two oceanographers who stumbled across the disused Raasay mine workings in the 1980s. Focusing on the technical challenge of the mine workings, Laurence and Pamela Draper managed to gather enough material for a slim but timely book on the subject in 1990. They collected first-hand accounts from islanders who are now dead, archive photos and superb surveys of the extensive mine workings. Architecturally, Inverarish is a Highland village. Two rows of miner’s cottages, built by Baird, are now occupied by most of the 200 or so inhabitants of the island. During the first world war half of it was a prison camp surrounded by barbed wire. In the top section were the Germans, and in the bottom their military guard and British mine workers. IN each corner there was a watchtower, just like you see in the films, says John Ferguson, and everyone was searched coming in and going out. And, just like the films, Ferguson’s father had long sausage-shaped sacks, sewn from flour bags, suspended inside his baggy trousers to smuggle oatmeal and flour into the camp for the Germans. Separated from a military supply chain by miles of sea and rail, the Germans survived, barely, on half rations which arrived on a steam packet every three days. Life was not all bad, though. One photo depicts the Germans in celebratory mood in leder hosen and hunting caps, with costumes and instruments they must have made on the island. Apart from what they fashioned for sale, the Germans traded the contents of their Red Cross parcels. Prison tobacco and small luxuries became valuable commodities on an island suffering the privations of war. “As far as I can gather there was very little animosity towards the Germans ” says Norrie Gillies, whose house is a stone’s throw from the site of the former prison camp hall, now the island fire station. “I suppose that was the case wherever people got to see prisoners as human beings, but life must have been pretty miserable for them.” Escape attempts ended in farce. Half a dozen prisoners rowed out to a fishing boat, but were unable to start the engine. Seasick and disgusted, they returned ashore and were captured cooking a rabbit not far from the camp. Others hid out until they were recaptured. “I’m sure they hadn't realised that they were on an island,” says Gillies. Death was another escape. Georg Kag erer was killed by a roof-fall in the mines in May 1917; Paul Sosinka died of unknown causes the previous Christmas. Early in 1919, before the prisoners could be returned home, another dozen succumbed to the fatal influenza epidemic that swept through Europe and the world that winter. “They couldn’t have been very robust by then,” says Gillies. “It’s quite tragic, because the war was over.” While Kagerer and Sosinka were accorded a headstone, the dozen others were given flat grave slabs. Not long before the second world war began, recalls Gillies, the German graves were desecrated. “It was in 1936 or 1937, some people from one of the universities came to the island for the day. There was a lot of anti-German feeling at the time, and somehow these people found themselves in the graveyard and they destroyed the German graves, smashed them completely. People on the island only found out weeks later when they had a funeral.” The team that came for the remains of the POWs in 1967 showed similar disdain for the burial ground. The two-ton carved boulder in memory of Sosinka and Kagerer was cast aside carelessly and only put back upright many years later by the islanders. None of the former prisoners retained contact with the island, although they left behind clues to their identities. There is a postcard of one of the Germans in a tunic which John Ferguson has unearthed. Many more photos may exist. “There was a Jewish hawker who used to come round the islands, and he would take photos with a camera he had,”he explains. German prisoner records were destroyed by Allied bombing in the second world war. In the upheaval of a twice-defeated and then divided nation, there is no trace of the prisoners’ side of the story. The obelisk war memorial in Inverarish, meanwhile, is witness to the 22 men from the island who died in the first world war. Two out of three who volunteered never returned. It was an enormous loss for a small island. Given Raasay’s Free Presbyterian leanings, there is not usually an Armistice ceremony at the memorial. But the islanders will remember their dead, and some will still spare a moment for the Germans whose names are carved on the boulder high on the hill, the enemies who became their wartime friends. The Raasay Iron Mine by Laurence and Pamela Draper is available from Raasay Stores, Isle of Raasay. Today: Pat Barker discusses her first world war trilogy, Regeneration, on Radio 4’s Bookclub. Thursday, Armistice Day: Eorpa goes in search of Raasay’s German POWs, BBC2 at 7.30pm; The Nation Remembers: The Queen At The Field Of Remembrance, BBC1 at 10.45am; BBC2 and Radio 4 mark a two-minute silence at 11am. 07 November 2004 Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com “We have not inherited the world from our forefathers, we have borrowed it from our children.” … Kashmiri Proverb List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    11/14/2004 01:46:51
    1. GENEALOGICAL ABBREVIATIONS AND ACRONYMS
    2. Sally Rolls Pavia
    3. GenDocs Genealogical Research in England and Wales GENEALOGICAL ABBREVIATIONS AND ACRONYMS http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/abbr.html Examples: s. - [1] solidus, a shilling (English money); [2] second(s); [3] singular; [4] son. S. - [1] South(ern); [2] Saint; [3] Society. S. by E. - South by East. S. by W. - South by West. S. Yorks - South Yorkshire. Sally Rolls Pavia sallypavia2001@yahoo.com “We will not be remembered by our words, but by our kind deeds." List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus"

    11/14/2004 01:11:27
    1. Robert Bunker NY
    2. Bette
    3. In 1790 census David Bunker was in Kinderhook, Columbia Co., NY. All the rest of the Bunkers were in Hudson, Columbia Co., NY. They were Barzilla, Elihu, Elijah, Francis, Paul, Shubael, Silas, Thaddeus, Timothy, Tristham and William. Any of these could have been either the grandfather or father of your Robert. In 1810, there were quite a few Bunkers in NY but most were still in Columbia Co. In Columbia Co were: David, David, Elihu, Elihu S., Elijah, Francis, Jethro, Leban; Mary, Prince, Rueben, Robert who lived in the town of Claverack, Solomon, Timothy, Tristam and William. Duchess Co. were "B" (initial only), and Tom. Others were Betsey, Montgomery Co; Timothy, Greene Co.; John, Saratoga Co; Isaac, Schoharie Co; and Jonathan, Steuben Co. Most of the New York Bunkers at that time were from the Nantucket branch. Not all of them were however. The best way to narrow it down would be to find a male descendant of Robert who was born a Bunker and get him tested for DNA. In the Bunker database, the Robert's listed in that era who could have been your Robert's family were in Reuben's, Laban's and Francis' family. Of course, we have none that were born in 1814 that would fit your Robert. However, since these were the only families with anyone named Robert at the time, they are a good possibility. My advice is to check out every record you can find for Columbia Co., New York. The best places to start are http://www.rootsweb.com and http://www.cyndislist.com. You can also just search the web for Columbia Co., NY and see what you get. Laban, b. 1783 in Nantucket was the son of Richard and Eunice Mitchell. Reuben b. 1772 in Nantucket was the son of Elihu and Phebe Starbuck. Francis b. 1787 in Nantucket and d. 1814 in De Ruyter, NY had been living in Hudson and Claverack in Columbia Co., NY prior to his death. Francis was the son of Shubael and Lydia Paddock. Try looking for Paddocks, Mitchells and Starbucks. Especially if any of them ended up in Canada. Francis married Eunice Macy. Reuben married Abigail Bernard. Laban married Deborah Macy. Try researching the Bernards and Macys as well. Let me know if you learn anything new or can find a living male Bunker descended from Robert willing to take part in our DNA surname project. Bette ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project. -----Original Message----- From: doug.detling@greencity.org [mailto:doug.detling@greencity.org] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:19 PM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: FW: Sally Ann Bunker I am posting this message to the Bunker-L list in hopes someone can help Kristen. Doug Detling BFA web site coordinator _____ From: KLJOHNSTON@aol.com [mailto:KLJOHNSTON@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:10 AM To: doug.detling@greencity.org Subject: Re: FW: Sally Ann Bunker I have been looking for the parents of Robert Bunker b in 1814 in New York. I have been doing lots of seraching on who might have been his parents to no avail. I would love to hear if you find anything and I will do the same Robert Bunker ended up in Ontario married to Permilla Harris and had 12 children His son Purvis being my Great great grandfather. Kristen Boland ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Post your information and queries. We love it. No BUNKER rock left untouched. Spelling variations ok - we don't "know" the original.

    11/13/2004 09:02:06
    1. RE: FW: Sally Ann Bunker
    2. I am posting this message to the Bunker-L list in hopes someone can help Kristen. Doug Detling BFA web site coordinator _____ From: KLJOHNSTON@aol.com [mailto:KLJOHNSTON@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:10 AM To: doug.detling@greencity.org Subject: Re: FW: Sally Ann Bunker I have been looking for the parents of Robert Bunker b in 1814 in New York. I have been doing lots of seraching on who might have been his parents to no avail. I would love to hear if you find anything and I will do the same Robert Bunker ended up in Ontario married to Permilla Harris and had 12 children His son Purvis being my Great great grandfather. Kristen Boland

    11/13/2004 04:18:33
    1. RE: Sally Ann Bunker
    2. Bette
    3. There were about 140 Bunkers listed as living in NY in the 1850 census. Ira Sargent is not listed. Sally could have been the daughter of any of those Bunkers listed in the census that were old enough to be her parents. Of course, her parents may have been dead by that time too. If you can track down the place that Ira and Sally lived first after their marriage, you can look for Bunkers in that area that could have been her family. That might narrow it down some. RootsWeb and Cyndis List are the best places to start. Sally was probably named Sarah as Sally was a common nickname for Sarah. The Bunker database has no Sarah or Sally Bunker married to a Sargent. The family appears to have been migrating west. Look for Bunkers in the areas where Ira and Sally lived as they migrated west. If anyone else out there has any suggestions to help find this Sally Bunker, please let us know. Bette ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project. -----Original Message----- From: doug.detling@greencity.org [mailto:doug.detling@greencity.org] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:30 AM To: BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: FW: Sally Ann Bunker -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Sargent-Johnson [mailto:NSJohnson@lcsc.edu] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:27 PM To: BUNKER-L-Request@rootsweb.com Subject: Sally Ann Bunker Do you have any information that would help me find out who are my gr gr grandmother's ancestors? Sally Ann Bunker, probably born in New York, born in 1812, m a younger Ira Horton Sargent (who was born in Onadogan County New York) and bore children between 1844 -1857 in New York, Ohio, and perhaps Michigan. Buried in Doty Cemetery, Ransom, Michigan (where her father-in-law, Ephraim Sargent owned land). Gravesite says she was wife of Ira H Sargent, died October 16, 1858 at age 46. She gave birth to twins John W and Ira L, in 1847 (one being my gr grandfather), last child born was Martin Sargent in 1857. If she was born in New York, who might have been her parents? Any help you might be able to provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== Want more information on the Bunker Family Association? Send an e-mail message to gilbunker@snip.net and receive our current newsletter, and a pedigree chart of your Bunker ancestors (if they can be located in our files).

    11/13/2004 01:19:17
    1. FW: Sally Ann Bunker
    2. -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Sargent-Johnson [mailto:NSJohnson@lcsc.edu] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:27 PM To: BUNKER-L-Request@rootsweb.com Subject: Sally Ann Bunker Do you have any information that would help me find out who are my gr gr grandmother's ancestors? Sally Ann Bunker, probably born in New York, born in 1812, m a younger Ira Horton Sargent (who was born in Onadogan County New York) and bore children between 1844 -1857 in New York, Ohio, and perhaps Michigan. Buried in Doty Cemetery, Ransom, Michigan (where her father-in-law, Ephraim Sargent owned land). Gravesite says she was wife of Ira H Sargent, died October 16, 1858 at age 46. She gave birth to twins John W and Ira L, in 1847 (one being my gr grandfather), last child born was Martin Sargent in 1857. If she was born in New York, who might have been her parents? Any help you might be able to provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

    11/12/2004 11:30:15
    1. Quaker records
    2. Bette
    3. This is an interesting site for Quaker records. It is an index but provides good information. http://www.earlham.edu/~libr/quaker/obituaries/ Bette ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project.

    11/12/2004 08:56:16
    1. English maps, etc
    2. Bette
    3. I like these sites. Here is a good England map http://www.picturesofengland.com/mapofengland/counties-map.html Doomsday towns http://www.britainexpress.com/History/domesday-england.htm Another site I like http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ Bette ____________________________________________ Check out the Bunker Family Association. http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. If your name is Bunker and you are a male, consider joining our surname DNA project.

    11/12/2004 08:40:18
    1. Dennis Miller Bunker, artist
    2. Gil Bunker
    3. Hello Cousins, If you want to buy an early Christmas present, a Dennis Bunker watercolor is up for bid on Ebay, starting at $1,900. Sounds like a bargain. gil

    11/11/2004 05:05:18
    1. Spyware Prevention Suggestions
    2. Douglas G. Detling
    3. Bette Richards asked about recommendations for anti-spyware programs. Most reviews of these programs indicate that no one program is totally adequate at removing or preventing malware or spyware. Spybot Search and Destroy is one good one, as is Adaware. I use both and run both once a week. I also have a program called WebRoot Spy Sweeper which prevents spyware from installing itself, and I run its thorough scan once a week right after running the other two. Doug Detling

    11/11/2004 01:31:06
    1. Re: "History of the Great Chicago Fire, October 8, 9, and 10, 1871"
    2. Roser
    3. Sorry about that, I sent it to the wrong group. It least it showed I found it interesting. Thanks. Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. God Bless America ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roser" <roser@acadia.net> To: "Sally Rolls Pavia" <sallypavia2001@yahoo.com>; <BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: Re: "History of the Great Chicago Fire, October 8, 9, and 10, 1871" > Some of you may find this of interest. > Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. > God Bless America > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sally Rolls Pavia" <sallypavia2001@yahoo.com> > To: <BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:29 AM > Subject: "History of the Great Chicago Fire, October 8, 9, and 10, 1871" > > >> The complete text of James Goodsell's >> "History of the Great Chicago Fire, October 8, 9, and 10, 1871." >> Published 1871 by J.H. and C.M. Goodsell >> (25 pages, including a map of the area affected by the fire) >> >> On Dearborn street stood The Times and The Journal newspaper offices, the >> Dearborn theatre, and a considerable number of banks and large office >> blocks >> La Salle street was built up with many of the finest buildings to be >> found >> in the city. It was largely occupied by insurance agents, real estate >> brokers, lawyers, etc. Between Washington and Randolph streets, stood the >> court-house, which, of course, shared the general ruin. >> >> These details are only given to aid the reader in obtaining a proximate >> idea >> of the losses. Little was saved except from those houses which were not >> attacked by the flames until several hours after it was seen to be >> inevitable that the city was doomed. >> >> Immense quantities of goods were piled upon lake park and on the grounds >> of >> the Chicago Base Ball club-pyramids of clothing, boots and shoes, dry >> goods, >> and furniture from the houses of the rich dwellers along Michigan >> avenue-all >> of which fell a prey to the destroyer. >> >> THE LOSS OF LIFE >> The loss of life, though smaller than could have been predicted in such >> an >> extended and such a rapid fire, can yet never be fully estimated. There >> have >> been charred remains at the morgue which were almost unrecognizable as >> human >> bodies, and as the ruins are lying from two to ten feet deep in places, >> it >> is impossible to say how many have been buried under them. The fact that >> but >> few of those who are prominently known are missing, must not lead any to >> believe that there have not been many lost who would be missed only by an >> exceedingly small circle of friends, too obscure themselves to attract >> much >> attention. >> >> The greatest loss of life was in the north division among the wooden >> buildings where the billows of fire rolled along so rapidly that the >> victims >> were engulphed before they were aware that the fire had reached their >> neighborhood. The flames often jumped two or three blocks at once, as was >> the case at the water works and Lill's brewery, which were on fire a long >> time before any of the adjoining buildings. At the waterworks one man >> crawled into a 20-inch pipe, which was lying in the street, and was >> burned >> to a crisp. >> >> Continue reading the article at: >> http://chicago.about.com/cs/history/a/16_history_fire.htm >> >> >> Sally Rolls Pavia >> sallypavia2001@yahoo.com >> "We will not be remembered by our words, but by our kind deeds." >> List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES >> "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus" >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== >> Douglas G. Detling (list coordinator) >> e-mail: doug.detling@greencity.org >> >> >

    11/11/2004 11:48:37
    1. Re: "History of the Great Chicago Fire, October 8, 9, and 10, 1871"
    2. Roser
    3. Some of you may find this of interest. Rosalie in Bar Harbor, Me. God Bless America ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Rolls Pavia" <sallypavia2001@yahoo.com> To: <BUNKER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:29 AM Subject: "History of the Great Chicago Fire, October 8, 9, and 10, 1871" > The complete text of James Goodsell's > "History of the Great Chicago Fire, October 8, 9, and 10, 1871." > Published 1871 by J.H. and C.M. Goodsell > (25 pages, including a map of the area affected by the fire) > > On Dearborn street stood The Times and The Journal newspaper offices, the > Dearborn theatre, and a considerable number of banks and large office > blocks > La Salle street was built up with many of the finest buildings to be found > in the city. It was largely occupied by insurance agents, real estate > brokers, lawyers, etc. Between Washington and Randolph streets, stood the > court-house, which, of course, shared the general ruin. > > These details are only given to aid the reader in obtaining a proximate > idea > of the losses. Little was saved except from those houses which were not > attacked by the flames until several hours after it was seen to be > inevitable that the city was doomed. > > Immense quantities of goods were piled upon lake park and on the grounds > of > the Chicago Base Ball club-pyramids of clothing, boots and shoes, dry > goods, > and furniture from the houses of the rich dwellers along Michigan > avenue-all > of which fell a prey to the destroyer. > > THE LOSS OF LIFE > The loss of life, though smaller than could have been predicted in such an > extended and such a rapid fire, can yet never be fully estimated. There > have > been charred remains at the morgue which were almost unrecognizable as > human > bodies, and as the ruins are lying from two to ten feet deep in places, it > is impossible to say how many have been buried under them. The fact that > but > few of those who are prominently known are missing, must not lead any to > believe that there have not been many lost who would be missed only by an > exceedingly small circle of friends, too obscure themselves to attract > much > attention. > > The greatest loss of life was in the north division among the wooden > buildings where the billows of fire rolled along so rapidly that the > victims > were engulphed before they were aware that the fire had reached their > neighborhood. The flames often jumped two or three blocks at once, as was > the case at the water works and Lill's brewery, which were on fire a long > time before any of the adjoining buildings. At the waterworks one man > crawled into a 20-inch pipe, which was lying in the street, and was burned > to a crisp. > > Continue reading the article at: > http://chicago.about.com/cs/history/a/16_history_fire.htm > > > Sally Rolls Pavia > sallypavia2001@yahoo.com > "We will not be remembered by our words, but by our kind deeds." > List Owner: GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES-L-request@rootsweb.com > Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES > "All incoming and outgoing email checked by Norton Anti-Virus" > > > > > > ==== BUNKER Mailing List ==== > Douglas G. Detling (list coordinator) > e-mail: doug.detling@greencity.org > >

    11/11/2004 11:45:15