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    1. Re: [BUNKER] on line genealogical records
    2. margie2e via
    3. Bette, Thank you for all the information you send. You do a wonderful service. Merry Christmas, Margie Ramirez ---- Bette Bunker Richards via <[email protected]> wrote: > I took a look at some Barnstead, NH vital records at www.usgennet.org which > I thought might be a good source. After all it is supposed to be vital > records right? Unfortunately, there are many "about" dates for births and > marriages. There are marriages of children before the parents were 10 > years old. The lists have the early 1800s dates given as 1900s like many > other computer lists. While you can look at this for some assistance for > finding your ancestors, I would not rely on it for accuracy. My definition > of vital records is records kept by governmental authorities that are > original records. Obviously, this site cannot be that as vital records > have actual dates and not "about" dates. > > Can you imagine getting a birth certificate or marriage license that said > your were born about 1945 or married about 1960? > > Bette > ***************************** > If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/22/2014 02:08:03
    1. [BUNKER] on line genealogical records
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. I took a look at some Barnstead, NH vital records at www.usgennet.org which I thought might be a good source. After all it is supposed to be vital records right? Unfortunately, there are many "about" dates for births and marriages. There are marriages of children before the parents were 10 years old. The lists have the early 1800s dates given as 1900s like many other computer lists. While you can look at this for some assistance for finding your ancestors, I would not rely on it for accuracy. My definition of vital records is records kept by governmental authorities that are original records. Obviously, this site cannot be that as vital records have actual dates and not "about" dates. Can you imagine getting a birth certificate or marriage license that said your were born about 1945 or married about 1960? Bette

    12/22/2014 01:52:02
    1. Re: [BUNKER] Bunker Family History
    2. Gil Bunker via
    3. Cousins, The Bunker Family History; by Henry L. Bunker, III; 1984; paperback; 147 pages; 8 page index (compiled by Maralyn Anderson, WA); $15 each +p/h; two for $25 +p/h; books weigh under one pound and are mailed USPS "Media Mail" in USA; all others require First Class; send requests w/check to BFA office, 9 Sommerset Road, Turnersville NJ 08012-2122. Thank you for your support of the BFA. gil -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bette Bunker Richards via Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BUNKER] Bunker Family History *BUNKER FAMILY HISTORY *by Henry L. Bunker is a unique book. It has information in there that is not published elsewhere. It shows Bunker residency in various parts of England starting with London 1250 up to the 1500s. There are maps, transcriptions of wills, parish census numbers, stories about some Bunkers and historical references. It was written before we did the DNA testing when we still believed that all the American Bunkers were related and it refers to the legend that Bunkers were Huguenots (not true) but is otherwise an excellent reference. Most of the information can be found on line now but you have to look a bit to find it. It is most convenient to have it handy when you have questions about our history. I use it all the time even though I have 3 GBs of Bunker data on my computer, two bookcases full of books and 6 filing cabinets. It is such a handy thing to have. Gil still has some copies for sale. Why didn t I think of this a month ago? Contact Gil a! t [email protected] Bette ***************************** If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2014 09:10:06
    1. [BUNKER] Facebook
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. Have you looked at the Bunker Family Assn Facebook page? Lately we have been talking about Halloween customs and Christmas customs, a new baby's birth has been announced and we have been exchanging some good genealogical research stuff. Come join us. Bette

    12/20/2014 03:34:01
    1. [BUNKER] Bunker Family History
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. *BUNKER FAMILY HISTORY *by Henry L. Bunker is a unique book. It has information in there that is not published elsewhere. It shows Bunker residency in various parts of England starting with London 1250 up to the 1500s. There are maps, transcriptions of wills, parish census numbers, stories about some Bunkers and historical references. It was written before we did the DNA testing when we still believed that all the American Bunkers were related and it refers to the legend that Bunkers were Huguenots (not true) but is otherwise an excellent reference. Most of the information can be found on line now but you have to look a bit to find it. It is most convenient to have it handy when you have questions about our history. I use it all the time even though I have 3 GBs of Bunker data on my computer, two bookcases full of books and 6 filing cabinets. It is such a handy thing to have. Gil still has some copies for sale. Why didn’t I think of this a month ago? Contact Gil at [email protected] Bette

    12/20/2014 03:30:17
    1. [BUNKER] immigration laws records
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. The history of our immigration policies can be found at various sites. Here are some of them. This is not a political statement but to help guide those who are looking for immigrant ancestors. http://www.umass.edu/complit/aclanet/USMigrat.html. http://www.uscis.gov/history-and-genealogy/our-history/agency-history/early-american-immigration-policies . http://www.infoplease.com/us/immigration/legislation-timeline.html. http://www.history.com/topics/ellis-island. Also see: http://aad.archives.gov/aad/ http://www.archives.gov/research/naturalization/index.html Please use cut and paste when receiving URLs by email. Bette

    12/20/2014 03:12:19
    1. [BUNKER] Spangler family pictures
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. Miss June Spangler, 8390 Mayfield Rd. Chesterland, OH 44026 is looking for pictures of her family. Is there anyone out there who can correspond with her? This is from the Dorrance, Kansas Bunker family. Thanks, Bette

    12/14/2014 07:57:32
    1. [BUNKER] Coats of Arms
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. Please do not waste your money paying for something with a Bunker Coat of Arms on it. No Bunker Coat of Arms existed until just a few years ago when Brian Bunker of Hong Kong had one issued for himself. This only pertains to him and no other Bunker. No Bunker in the past had a coat of arms. The official register of Coats of Arms for Britain is at the College of Arms. If you want to get one of your own check out http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/services/granting-arms Bette

    12/07/2014 12:22:19
    1. [BUNKER] Steven Bunker, author
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. Creating Mexican Consumer Culture in the Age of Porfirio Díaz [image: Front Cover] <http://books.google.com/books?id=t0ZzOe4F1Z8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0> Steven B. Bunker <http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=inauthor:%22Steven+B.+Bunker%22> UNM Press, 2012 - History <http://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=subject:%22History%22&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0> - 333 pages <http://books.google.com/books?id=t0ZzOe4F1Z8C&dq=%22steven+bunker%22&sitesec=reviews> 0 Reviews <http://books.google.com/books?id=t0ZzOe4F1Z8C&dq=%22steven+bunker%22&sitesec=reviews> In Gabriel García Márquez's novel One Hundred Years of Solitude, a character articulates the fascination goods, technology, and modernity held for many Latin Americans in the early twentieth century when he declares that "incredible things are happening in this world." The modernity he marvels over is the new availability of cheap and useful goods. Steven Bunker's study shows how goods and consumption embodied modernity in the time of Porfirio Díaz, how they provided proof to Mexicans that "incredible things are happening in this world." In urban areas, and especially Mexico City, being a consumer increasingly defined what it meant to be Mexican. In an effort to reconstruct everyday life in Porfirian Mexico, Bunker surveys the institutions and discourses of consumption and explores how individuals and groups used the goods, practices, and spaces of urban consumer culture to construct meaning and identities in the rapidly evolving social and physical landscape of the capital city and beyond. Through case studies of tobacco marketing, department stores, advertising, shoplifting, and a famous jewelry robbery and homicide, he provides a colorful walking tour of daily life in Porfirian Mexico City. Emphasizing the widespread participation in this consumer culture, Bunker's work overturns conventional wisdom that only the middle and upper classes participated in this culture.

    12/06/2014 07:58:06
    1. [BUNKER] Genetic DNA testing
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. For beginners in 16 lessons, learn about the different DNA testing. https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/beginners-guide-to-genetic-genealogy . www.familytreedna.com has a Bunker project where Bunkers wanting to be tested get a discount on the cost. The URL for our project is https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Bunker. Bette

    12/06/2014 06:29:00
    1. Re: [BUNKER] Genealogy program
    2. Barbara B Reitt via
    3. Bette: First, of course, profuse thanks for all your hard work. You've made an enormous contribution! You're not alone in struggling with the TMG demise. You should check out the discussions that having been going on at two mailing lists at RootsWeb--the regular TMG one and a new one called TMG Refugees. People are sharing their ideas and experiences with alternative programs, the latter especially among the refugees group, which also established a Web site. Their discussions can be quite helpful. You can explore the regular TMG archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ or the TMG Refugees archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG-REFUGEES I've learned from these other TMG users that Roots Magic and Legacy are the leading candidates for TMG users, and there's also a British program called Family Historian that some TMGers have recommended. I have bought both RM and Legacy and experimented with them, and so far for me RM is in the lead. That's probably because they've already programed direct import for TMG into their program, which is much, much better than trying to use the very limited bridge program called GEDCOM. Legacy has announced plans to add direct import from TMG but so far has not gone public with it. A significant number of TMG users have decided to sit tight with TMG and wait for further developments. TMG has been tested and found to be just fine when run under the new Windows operating system that's (I think) still in beta status--Windows 10. That's good news, because it means that current TMG users can keep on using the program for about 10 years or even more. In the meantime, word is that at least a couple of developers are working on creating a TMG successor. As for FTM, I also believe that ownership of the data you upload to them is in question. I really don't think that's the right direction for the Bunker Family Association. I hope this gives you some ideas and some encouragement. If you have any questions about my somewhat limited experience with RM and Legacy so far, do feel free to email me directly. Bottom line for me so far--I'm sticking with TMG and watching for better alternatives to emerge. All the best, Bobbie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bette Bunker Richards via Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BUNKER] Genealogy program The Bunker Family Assn. presently has its database of over 90,000 names in The Master Genealogist. This is no longer being sold or updated. I purchased Family Tree Maker and attempted numerous times unsuccessfully to transfer data to that program. In addition, much information was lost, and there were numerous errors even with our smallest data base in the transfer. For instance, nothing recently inputted in TMG was in the new FTM database. My son's children became my brother's children. FTM did not pick up most of the pictures or in one case, none of them. I am not sure where the errors are, TMG's GEDCOM or the new file imported into FTM. At any rate, we may be in some real trouble with this. I will continue to try to successfully transfer any part of our database to FTM but hours and hours of work have not so far succeeded. Because I knew we were going to have to change and I am worried something will happen to TMG that I cannot fix and will leave us with no access to the program, I have put off data entry lately. I am trying to work out some kind of solution. In the meantime, I am going back to entering data in TMG and will see what happens in the future. I have had four surgeries in the last nine months which has slowed me down a bit as well. I am in good shape now but will soon be 77 years old. Of course, my father is 97 so I don't really expect to be leaving this earth soon but it would be really nice if someone who is younger and computer savvy would like to take over the job of genealogist/historian. You would need to already have The Master Genealogist program because I have not yet found a way to successfully even the smallest database to Family Tree Maker and you would need to have both to check to see all the data transferred correctly. Bette ***************************** If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/30/2014 03:01:44
    1. Re: [BUNKER] Genealogy program
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. I really appreciate this input from you people. So far, I am totally discouraged with FTM and will not use it. I did not know they might 'own" our data if it was just input into the program and not uploaded to Ancestry. One of the things I do not like about it is that connection to Ancestry as I have found in the past they tend to take all they can get free and sell it to others. There is no way the BFA database will go online unless we have total control over it and it is usable by members only. Then the access would also have to be limited in some way. In the past many professional genealogists have contacted me asking for things like all the descendants of George Bunker of Nantucket. That is over 5,000 people and the result of 100 + years of research by our members. I also never send any one a GEDCOM. I never merge a GEDCOM into the BFA files either. And reports are done in PDF format as well so people cannot easily cut and paste and then immediately add this to their online trees. While I use Ancestry as a research tool, it is full of errors and always try to confirm the information from other sources. If the only source is Ancestry, then I tell people that it might not be accurate and they need to check it out through other sources. Please keep sending information about any genealogy program experiences that you have. Thanks. Bette On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Barbara B Reitt <[email protected]> wrote: > Bette: > > First, of course, profuse thanks for all your hard work. You've made an > enormous contribution! > > You're not alone in struggling with the TMG demise. You should check out > the > discussions that having been going on at two mailing lists at RootsWeb--the > regular TMG one and a new one called TMG Refugees. People are sharing their > ideas and experiences with alternative programs, the latter especially > among > the refugees group, which also established a Web site. Their discussions > can > be quite helpful. > > You can explore the regular TMG archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG/ or the TMG Refugees > archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/TMG-REFUGEES > > I've learned from these other TMG users that Roots Magic and Legacy are the > leading candidates for TMG users, and there's also a British program called > Family Historian that some TMGers have recommended. I have bought both RM > and Legacy and experimented with them, and so far for me RM is in the lead. > That's probably because they've already programed direct import for TMG > into > their program, which is much, much better than trying to use the very > limited bridge program called GEDCOM. Legacy has announced plans to add > direct import from TMG but so far has not gone public with it. > > A significant number of TMG users have decided to sit tight with TMG and > wait for further developments. TMG has been tested and found to be just > fine > when run under the new Windows operating system that's (I think) still in > beta status--Windows 10. That's good news, because it means that current > TMG > users can keep on using the program for about 10 years or even more. In the > meantime, word is that at least a couple of developers are working on > creating a TMG successor. > > As for FTM, I also believe that ownership of the data you upload to them is > in question. I really don't think that's the right direction for the Bunker > Family Association. > > I hope this gives you some ideas and some encouragement. If you have any > questions about my somewhat limited experience with RM and Legacy so far, > do > feel free to email me directly. Bottom line for me so far--I'm sticking > with > TMG and watching for better alternatives to emerge. > > All the best, Bobbie > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Bette Bunker Richards via > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BUNKER] Genealogy program > > The Bunker Family Assn. presently has its database of over 90,000 names in > The Master Genealogist. This is no longer being sold or updated. I > purchased Family Tree Maker and attempted numerous times unsuccessfully to > transfer data to that program. In addition, much information was lost, and > there were numerous errors even with our smallest data base in the > transfer. > For instance, nothing recently inputted in TMG was in the new FTM database. > My son's children became my brother's children. FTM did not pick up most > of > the pictures or in one case, none of them. I am not sure where the errors > are, TMG's GEDCOM or the new file imported into FTM. At any rate, we may > be > in some real trouble with this. I will continue to try to successfully > transfer any part of our database to FTM but hours and hours of work have > not so far succeeded. > > Because I knew we were going to have to change and I am worried something > will happen to TMG that I cannot fix and will leave us with no access to > the > program, I have put off data entry lately. I am trying to work out some > kind of solution. In the meantime, I am going back to entering data in TMG > and will see what happens in the future. > > I have had four surgeries in the last nine months which has slowed me down > a > bit as well. I am in good shape now but will soon be 77 years old. Of > course, my father is 97 so I don't really expect to be leaving this earth > soon but it would be really nice if someone who is younger and computer > savvy would like to take over the job of genealogist/historian. You would > need to already have The Master Genealogist program because I have not yet > found a way to successfully even the smallest database to Family Tree Maker > and you would need to have both to check to see all the data transferred > correctly. > > Bette > ***************************** > If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, > please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

    11/30/2014 02:46:18
    1. Re: [BUNKER] Genealogy program
    2. JGReiner16 via
    3. -----Original Message----- From: JGReiner16 via <[email protected]> To: betterichs <[email protected]>; bunker <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Nov 29, 2014 3:51 pm Subject: Re: [BUNKER] Genealogy program I may be totally wrong but I thought that Family Tree Maker owned whatever you transferred into it unlike Master Genealogist where you own the info. Would this make a difference to all of those whose records are in the files? Hope that this is not correct. I thank you for all of your service and time given to the Bunker folks. Joan Reiner -----Original Message----- From: Bette Bunker Richards via <[email protected]> To: bunker <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Nov 29, 2014 1:05 pm Subject: [BUNKER] Genealogy program The Bunker Family Assn. presently has its database of over 90,000 names in The Master Genealogist. This is no longer being sold or updated. I purchased Family Tree Maker and attempted numerous times unsuccessfully to transfer data to that program. In addition, much information was lost, and there were numerous errors even with our smallest data base in the transfer. For instance, nothing recently inputted in TMG was in the new FTM database. My son's children became my brother's children. FTM did not pick up most of the pictures or in one case, none of them. I am not sure where the errors are, TMG's GEDCOM or the new file imported into FTM. At any rate, we may be in some real trouble with this. I will continue to try to successfully transfer any part of our database to FTM but hours and hours of work have not so far succeeded. Because I knew we were going to have to change and I am worried something will happen to TMG that I cannot fix and will leave us with no access to the program, I have put off data entry lately. I am trying to work out some kind of solution. In the meantime, I am going back to entering data in TMG and will see what happens in the future. I have had four surgeries in the last nine months which has slowed me down a bit as well. I am in good shape now but will soon be 77 years old. Of course, my father is 97 so I don't really expect to be leaving this earth soon but it would be really nice if someone who is younger and computer savvy would like to take over the job of genealogist/historian. You would need to already have The Master Genealogist program because I have not yet found a way to successfully even the smallest database to Family Tree Maker and you would need to have both to check to see all the data transferred correctly. Bette ***************************** If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ***************************** If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2014 09:54:03
    1. Re: [BUNKER] Genealogy program
    2. JGReiner16 via
    3. I may be totally wrong but I thought that Family Tree Maker owned whatever you transferred into it unlike Master Genealogist where you own the info. Would this make a difference to all of those whose records are in the files? Hope that this is not correct. I thank you for all of your service and time given to the Bunker folks. Joan Reiner -----Original Message----- From: Bette Bunker Richards via <[email protected]> To: bunker <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Nov 29, 2014 1:05 pm Subject: [BUNKER] Genealogy program The Bunker Family Assn. presently has its database of over 90,000 names in The Master Genealogist. This is no longer being sold or updated. I purchased Family Tree Maker and attempted numerous times unsuccessfully to transfer data to that program. In addition, much information was lost, and there were numerous errors even with our smallest data base in the transfer. For instance, nothing recently inputted in TMG was in the new FTM database. My son's children became my brother's children. FTM did not pick up most of the pictures or in one case, none of them. I am not sure where the errors are, TMG's GEDCOM or the new file imported into FTM. At any rate, we may be in some real trouble with this. I will continue to try to successfully transfer any part of our database to FTM but hours and hours of work have not so far succeeded. Because I knew we were going to have to change and I am worried something will happen to TMG that I cannot fix and will leave us with no access to the program, I have put off data entry lately. I am trying to work out some kind of solution. In the meantime, I am going back to entering data in TMG and will see what happens in the future. I have had four surgeries in the last nine months which has slowed me down a bit as well. I am in good shape now but will soon be 77 years old. Of course, my father is 97 so I don't really expect to be leaving this earth soon but it would be really nice if someone who is younger and computer savvy would like to take over the job of genealogist/historian. You would need to already have The Master Genealogist program because I have not yet found a way to successfully even the smallest database to Family Tree Maker and you would need to have both to check to see all the data transferred correctly. Bette ***************************** If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/29/2014 09:49:09
    1. Re: [BUNKER] Genealogy program
    2. Carolyn Rust via
    3. Bette, Sorry to hear you've had a hard year, but happy to hear you're in the recovered mode. I'd be tempted to offer my services, but age-wise I'm not very far behind you, and I don't have a 97 year old father! The service you've provided all these years is immeasurable in value to so many people, including me. I've been using Family Tree Maker for many years now and until recently have been quite pleased with it. The last couple of updates seem to have missed the mark. The most recent, 2014, does an extremely lousy job of calculating relationships. If it's a simple line it seems to do fine, but it's completely lost with all my Nantucket ancestors intermarrying over the generations. That part is a total mess. I've been looking at other programs, but I also keep hoping that maybe next year FTM will have worked out those flaws. I wish you luck. Carolyn Rust On 11/29/2014 11:03 AM, Bette Bunker Richards via wrote: > The Bunker Family Assn. presently has its database of over 90,000 names in > The Master Genealogist. This is no longer being sold or updated. I > purchased Family Tree Maker and attempted numerous times unsuccessfully to > transfer data to that program. In addition, much information was lost, and > there were numerous errors even with our smallest data base in the > transfer. For instance, nothing recently inputted in TMG was in the new > FTM database. My son's children became my brother's children. FTM did not > pick up most of the pictures or in one case, none of them. I am not sure > where the errors are, TMG's GEDCOM or the new file imported into FTM. At > any rate, we may be in some real trouble with this. I will continue to try > to successfully transfer any part of our database to FTM but hours and > hours of work have not so far succeeded. > > Because I knew we were going to have to change and I am worried something > will happen to TMG that I cannot fix and will leave us with no access to > the program, I have put off data entry lately. I am trying to work out > some kind of solution. In the meantime, I am going back to entering data > in TMG and will see what happens in the future. > > I have had four surgeries in the last nine months which has slowed me down > a bit as well. I am in good shape now but will soon be 77 years old. Of > course, my father is 97 so I don't really expect to be leaving this earth > soon but it would be really nice if someone who is younger and computer > savvy would like to take over the job of genealogist/historian. You would > need to already have The Master Genealogist program because I have not yet > found a way to successfully even the smallest database to Family Tree Maker > and you would need to have both to check to see all the data transferred > correctly. > > Bette > ***************************** > If you wish additional information about the Bunker Family Association, please visit http://www.bunkerfamilyassn.org. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/29/2014 09:26:49
    1. [BUNKER] Genealogy program
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. The Bunker Family Assn. presently has its database of over 90,000 names in The Master Genealogist. This is no longer being sold or updated. I purchased Family Tree Maker and attempted numerous times unsuccessfully to transfer data to that program. In addition, much information was lost, and there were numerous errors even with our smallest data base in the transfer. For instance, nothing recently inputted in TMG was in the new FTM database. My son's children became my brother's children. FTM did not pick up most of the pictures or in one case, none of them. I am not sure where the errors are, TMG's GEDCOM or the new file imported into FTM. At any rate, we may be in some real trouble with this. I will continue to try to successfully transfer any part of our database to FTM but hours and hours of work have not so far succeeded. Because I knew we were going to have to change and I am worried something will happen to TMG that I cannot fix and will leave us with no access to the program, I have put off data entry lately. I am trying to work out some kind of solution. In the meantime, I am going back to entering data in TMG and will see what happens in the future. I have had four surgeries in the last nine months which has slowed me down a bit as well. I am in good shape now but will soon be 77 years old. Of course, my father is 97 so I don't really expect to be leaving this earth soon but it would be really nice if someone who is younger and computer savvy would like to take over the job of genealogist/historian. You would need to already have The Master Genealogist program because I have not yet found a way to successfully even the smallest database to Family Tree Maker and you would need to have both to check to see all the data transferred correctly. Bette

    11/29/2014 05:03:45
    1. [BUNKER] Bunker veterans
    2. Bette Bunker Richards via
    3. Hundreds of Bunkers have served in the military but there are still many more for whom we have no records. If anyone in your family is serving or has served, please let me know so I can add it to their records and Gil can add it to our military database. Thanks, Bette

    11/11/2014 09:36:53
    1. [BUNKER] How to Find a Revolutionary War Patriot
    2. Sally Rolls Pavia via
    3. [Downloaded from Dick East,an’s Online Genealogy Newsletter, dated Nov 10, 2014] How to Find a Revolutionary War Patriot After earlier skirmishes, the American Revolutionary War started with the battle between British troops and local Massachusetts militia at Lexington and Concord, Massachusetts, on 19 April 1775. It ended eight years later with the signing of the Treaty of Paris in 1783. If you have been able to trace your ancestry in America back to those years, you have an excellent chance of finding at least one ancestor who had some type of service related to the Revolutionary War effort. In fact, your ancestor may have been a Patriot or a Loyalist. We don’t celebrate the efforts of Loyalists very much in the United States, but go north to Canada and you will find that Loyalists are well documented and honored as heroes. They are especially honored for their contribution to the development of Canada. Perhaps one Canadian in ten has a Loyalist ancestor, and many people with English blood who live elsewhere – in the United States in commonwealth countries such as Australia and New Zealand, or in nearly any other country round the world – are also of Loyalist descent. Visit the United Empire Loyalists’ Association of Canada web site at http://www.uelac.org/ for more information. If you have already documented your U.S. ancestry to 1760 or earlier, you already have an excellent chance of finding either a Patriot or a Loyalist in the family tree. Boys as young as 16 were allowed to serve, so any male ancestors born in 1760 or earlier are possible veterans. You can even find a few younger boys who served as drummers or assistants in the Revolutionary War and later were credited as veterans, even though they were not considered soldiers during the war itself. Those who didn’t serve directly in a military capacity may have helped in other ways, such as providing goods, supplies, or non-military service to the cause. Women also participated in the American Revolution, sometimes as spies, and a very few even fought in battles while disguised as male soldiers. If your ancestor served as a Patriot and lived long enough after the war to apply for a pension, you can probably find a pension application for him. Almost all federal pension applications have survived, even the applications of those who were later turned down. In most cases, the veterans had to prove they were true veterans and therefore eligible for pensions. The “proof” often consisted of testimonials from relatives, neighbors, or from other military veterans with whom they served. Such testimonials often provide a wealth of genealogy information, frequently mentioning parents, spouses, siblings, and children. Even the applications that were eventually rejected can be valuable to today’s genealogists. Before 1818, national pension laws concerning veterans of the Revolution specified disability or death of a serviceman as the basis for a pension award (with the exception of the Continental Congress resolution of May 15, 1778, granting half pay to officers for service alone). On March 18, 1818, the U. S. Congress granted pensions to Revolutionary War veterans for service from which no disabilities resulted. Officers and enlisted men in need of assistance were eligible under the terms of the 1818 act if they had served in a Continental military organization or in the U. S. naval service (including the Marines) for 9 months or until the end of the war. Pensions granted under this act were to continue for life. Congress passed another service-pension act on May 15, 1823, which granted full pay for life to surviving officers and enlisted men of the Revolutionary War who were eligible for benefits under the terms of the Continental Congress resolution of May 15, 1778, as amended. The last and most liberal of the service-pension acts benefiting Revolutionary War veterans was passed on June 7, 1832, and extended the provisions of the law of May 15, 1828 to even more veterans. The act provided that every officer or enlisted man who had served at least 2 years in the Continental Line or State troops, volunteers or militia, was eligible for a pension of full pay for life. Naval and marine officers and enlisted men were also included. Veterans who had served less than 2 years, but not less than 6 months, were eligible for pensions of less than full pay. While thousands applied for pensions under the earlier acts of Congress, this final act of 1832 was the one that saw the most applications. In 1832, all of the living veterans would have been at least 72 years old. Many had already died, either from war injuries or from unrelated causes. In many cases, widows of veterans applied for benefits based on a husband’s service. In most cases, widows’ applications provided even more family information than did the applications received from actual veterans. On July 29, 1848, Congress provided life pensions for widows of veterans who were married before January 2, 1800. All restrictions pertaining to the date of marriage were removed by acts of February 3, 1853, and February 28, 1855. On March 9, 1878, widows of Revolutionary War soldiers who had served for as few as 14 days, or were in any engagement, were declared eligible for life pensions. This was still an issue in 1878 because many older veterans had married younger women, resulting in a large number of widows obtaining benefits 108 years or more after the birth of their husbands. Follow the Money – Tracking Revolutionary War Army Pension Payments by Claire Prechtel-Kluskens is a great tutorial on researching Revolutionary War pension applications. The tutorial may be found at http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2008/winter/follow-money.html. Revolutionary War pension applications may be found in their entirety on Fold3.com at http://www.fold3.com along with many Revolutionary War service records, final payment vouchers for several states, many Revolutionary War rolls, and more. RootsWeb at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com is another good place for identifying Patriot ancestors, although the site is not easily searched. The information there is submitted by other RootsWeb users so accuracy is not guaranteed. In fact, the site is plagued with many errors but you will find it easier to start with other people’s research and then gather the required documentation yourself from other sources that is needed to validate the research than to try to research something entirely from scratch. As always with any genealogy claims, you need to independently verify each piece of information you obtain on RootsWeb. Census Records for 1790 and the early 1800s also can be very helpful in identifying Revolutionary War ancestors. The census records may be found on MyHeritage.com, Ancestry.com. FamilySearch.org also has many census records available online although not all of them. If you are unsuccessful at proving connections via the above online resources, you will need to resort to printed books and microfilm images as many of the needed records are not yet online. If you have identified an ancestor born between 1710 and 1765 who was living in 1775-1776, check the online DAR Patriot Index to see if your ancestor is listed. If the answer is yes, someone else has submitted an approved DAR application for your ancestor; you will want to see more details in that application. If the answer is no, your ancestor could still be a Revolutionary War patriot; however, no one has submitted an approved DAR application for him/her. A DAR Patriot INDEX (not the full records) is available at http://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search/?Tab_ID=1. Other books to be searched include numerous compilations or source records from various states, land grants made years later as a result of Revolutionary War service, and even books about various generals and admirals that may mention some of the men who served under them. You can find many such books in your local library and at Google Books. For example, I looked in Google Books and found a biography of Revolutionary War Captain John Paul Jones that mentioned one of my ancestors, a Marine who served on board the Ranger under the command of Jones. You never know what you will find until you look! As with any genealogy effort, a bit of perseverance may provide records you never knew about – and very possibly contribute facts about your ancestors that you never knew. Sally Rolls Pavia [email protected] List Owner: [email protected] Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "Our Soldiers are one of our greatest assets!"

    11/11/2014 01:18:27
    1. [BUNKER] History of Veterans Day
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    3. Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs History of Veterans Day World War I – known at the time as “The Great War” - officially ended when the Treaty of Versailles was signed on June 28, 1919, in the Palace of Versailles outside the town of Versailles, France. However, fighting ceased seven months earlier when an armistice, or temporary cessation of hostilities, between the Allied nations and Germany went into effect on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month. For that reason, November 11, 1918, is generally regarded as the end of “the war to end all wars.” In November 1919, President Wilson proclaimed November 11 as the first commemoration of Armistice Day with the following words: "To us in America, the reflections of Armistice Day will be filled with solemn pride in the heroism of those who died in the country’s service and with gratitude for the victory, both because of the thing from which it has freed us and because of the opportunity it has given America to show her sympathy with peace and justice in the councils of the nations…" The original concept for the celebration was for a day observed with parades and public meetings and a brief suspension of business beginning at 11:00 a m. The United States Congress officially recognized the end of World War I when it passed a concurrent resolution on June 4, 1926, with these words: Whereas the 11th of November 1918, marked the cessation of the most destructive, sanguinary, and far reaching war in human annals and the resumption by the people of the United States of peaceful relations with other nations, which we hope may never again be severed, and Whereas it is fitting that the recurring anniversary of this date should be commemorated with thanksgiving and prayer and exercises designed to perpetuate peace through good will and mutual understanding between nations; and Whereas the legislatures of twenty-seven of our States have already declared November 11 to be a legal holiday: Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring), that the President of the United States is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the officials to display the flag of the United States on all Government buildings on November 11 and inviting the people of the United States to observe the day in schools and churches, or other suitable places, with appropriate ceremonies of friendly relations with all other peoples. An Act (52 Stat. 351; 5 U. S. Code, Sec. 87a) approved May 13, 1938, made the 11th of November in each year a legal holiday—a day to be dedicated to the cause of world peace and to be thereafter celebrated and known as Armistice Day." Armistice Day was primarily a day set aside to honor veterans of World War I, but in 1954, after World War II had required the greatest mobilization of soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen in the Nation’s history; after American forces had fought aggression in Korea, the 83rd Congress, at the urging of the veterans service organizations, amended the Act of 1938 by striking out the word "Armistice" and inserting in its place the word "Veterans." With the approval of this legislation (Public Law 380) on June 1, 1954, November 11th became a day to honor American veterans of all wars. Later that same year, on October 8th, President Dwight D. Eisenhower issued the first "Veterans Day Proclamation" which stated: "In order to insure proper and widespread observance of this anniversary, all veterans, all veterans' organizations, and the entire citizenry will wish to join hands in the common purpose. Toward this end, I am designating the Administrator of Veterans' Affairs as Chairman of a Veterans Day National Committee, which shall include such other persons as the Chairman may select, and which will coordinate at the national level necessary planning for the observance. I am also requesting the heads of all departments and agencies of the Executive branch of the Government to assist the National Committee in every way possible." On that same day, President Eisenhower sent a letter to the Honorable Harvey V. Higley, Administrator of Veterans' Affairs (VA), designating him as Chairman of the Veterans Day National Committee. In 1958, the White House advised VA's General Counsel that the 1954 designation of the VA Administrator as Chairman of the Veterans Day National Committee applied to all subsequent VA Administrators. Since March 1989 when VA was elevated to a cabinet level department, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs has served as the committee's chairman. The Uniform Holiday Bill (Public Law 90-363 (82 Stat. 250)) was signed on June 28, 1968, and was intended to ensure three-day weekends for Federal employees by celebrating four national holidays on Mondays: Washington's Birthday, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Columbus Day. It was thought that these extended weekends would encourage travel, recreational and cultural activities and stimulate greater industrial and commercial production. Many states did not agree with this decision and continued to celebrate the holidays on their original dates. The first Veterans Day under the new law was observed with much confusion on October 25, 1971. It was quite apparent that the commemoration of this day was a matter of historic and patriotic significance to a great number of our citizens, and so on September 20th, 1975, President Gerald R. Ford signed Public Law 94-97 (89 Stat. 479), which returned the annual observance of Veterans Day to its original date of November 11, beginning in 1978. This action supported the desires of the overwhelming majority of state legislatures, all major veterans service organizations and the American people. Veterans Day continues to be observed on November 11, regardless of what day of the week on which it falls. The restoration of the observance of Veterans Day to November 11 not only preserves the historical significance of the date, but helps focus attention on the important purpose of Veterans Day: A celebration to honor America's veterans for their patriotism, love of country, and willingness to serve and sacrifice for the common good. Sally Rolls Pavia [email protected] List Owner: [email protected] Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "Our Soldiers are one of our greatest assets!"

    11/11/2014 12:18:01
    1. [BUNKER] The Confederates Who Moved to Brazil AND California State Library Digitizes 3-D Images from 1800s
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    3. [downloaded from Dick Eastman’s Online Genealogy Newsletter, dated Nov 5, 2014] The Confederates Who Moved to Brazil Many citizens of the Confederacy disappeared from public records at the end of the Civil War or soon thereafter. Of course, record keeping was spotty at best in the turmoil that followed the defeat of the Confederacy. If you can’t find your relatives during that time, you might be tempted to say, “Oh well, he (or she) probably died in the war.” Don’t be so sure. Americana is a small city about 100 miles from São Paulo, Brazil’s largest city. The town was settled by disgruntled American Confederates after their side lost the Civil War. Descendants of the original settlers still live there today, and most of them still speak English with a strong southern drawl. You can learn more about this settlement and the families who lived there by starting online. Auburn University has a large Confederados Collection; a guide to the collection may be found at http://www.lib.auburn edu/archive/find-aid/958.htm. A web site of the history of the Confederados may be found at: http://www.confederados.com.br/. This web site also contains a list of Confederados families. If your long-lost relatives disappeared shortly after the American Civil War you might find them in Americana, São Paulo, Brazil. [downloaded from Dick Eastman’s Online Genealogy Newsletter, dated Nov 4, 2014] California State Library Digitizes 3-D Images from 1800s The California State Library is digitizing about 10,000 old sepia-toned 3-D photos – most from the 1800s. Officially known as stereoscopic photos, they were a popular turn-of-the-century parlor activity, shared like postcards and viewed through hand-held viewers that turned the side-by-side double photos into a single 3-D image. Taken by both professional and amateur photographers, the photos subjects ranged from majestic outdoor settings like Yosemite’s Half Dome to news-style photos of major events such as the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. They also captured everyday portraits of Americans at work and play, from Gold Rush miners to tourists visiting “Toyland” at the 1915 Panama-Pacific International Exposition in San Francisco. The Library has uploaded 93 black-and-white photos so far but hope to have 200 uploaded by year’s end. Each can be viewed in several formats, including an anaglyph version that requires the red-and-blue cardboard glasses for the full 3-D effect and a “wiggle” format where the people and places appear to move. The photos are available at: www.phereo.com/CaliforniaStateLibrary. Sally Rolls Pavia [email protected] List Owner: [email protected] Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENEALOGYBITSANDPIECES "Our Soldiers are one of our greatest assets!"

    11/07/2014 01:35:16