> Von: C. Rumbaugh <clr@thegrid.net> > Does anyone know the origin of these kind of names??? They sound Frisian to me. West Frisia today is in the Netherlands, East Frisia in North-West Germany. -- Best regards/Gruss, Johannes Sempert BUNDESWEITER INTERNETSTREIK AM 01. NOVEMBER!!! Infos unter: http://hello.to/Protestaktion http://www.gamespy.de/internetstreik

I am searching for anyone who is related or could be related to my great- grandparents. My great-grandfathers name was Karl August Willhelm Templiner. He was born December 26, 1897 in Lutzen, Germany (the U should have umlauts above it). He started working on ships at 12 years of age and jumped ship in 1915 to escape WWI. He had 5 other siblings: Wally, Willy Otto Ernst, Richard Fred, Otto Herman Ernst & Marie. Otto moved to the US, I have tracked his family down. The rest of the family remains a mystery other than old documents of the family. Richard Fred Templiner lives or lived in Grossgorschen for many years. I have written him, but have not had a response. Richard had a daughter named Cristal, but we don't know where she lives. Wally's daughter is named Edna Dorfer. Once again, we don't know how to reach her. Any help in finding any of these relatives would be appreciated. Vielen Dank! Please respond to JackRabel@aol.com.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_909005359_boundary Content-ID: <0_909005359@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Some of these names, when pronounced, soind almost like some short version given names in Solingen area of Germany - for example, Thrien (Trin in Solingen.). Also.there are Solingen surnames wioth the "je" and "jen" endiongs.. The Solingen recordss are of the 17th Century. HarryD3536@aol.com --part0_909005359_boundary Content-ID: <0_909005359@inet_out.mail.thegrid.net.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <BUNDESLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (rly-zc05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.5]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (v50.22) with SMTP; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:45:35 -0400 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by rly-zc05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA26266; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA11853; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <362DA065.2D81@thegrid.net> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:50:42 +0100 From: "C. Rumbaugh" <clr@thegrid.net> Reply-To: clr@thegrid.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Old-To: BUNDESLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: LANGAACK-LUTJE Resent-Message-ID: <"bbQmlC.A.j4C.D9gL2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: BUNDESLAND-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BUNDESLAND-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BUNDESLAND-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/74 X-Loop: BUNDESLAND-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BUNDESLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello! Does anyone on this list know about this name LUTJE or have it in their genealogy? There is an Ehler LUTJE and a Lutje LUTJEN. There are given names: Thrina, Antje, Thrien, Thienke, Wiebke, Abel, Abelke, Lehnke, Gretje . Also surname GOYEN. I have been told these names are of Scandinavian origin. They are peculair to the Schleswig-Holstein area. I have been told they are not Polish. Could they be Dutch, Danish, Lappland, Finland origin? Does anyone know the origin of these kind of names??? Thanking anyone for their help that may have a clue. Trilbyee Langmack Rumbaugh --part0_909005359_boundary--

Hello! Does anyone on this list know about this name LUTJE or have it in their genealogy? There is an Ehler LUTJE and a Lutje LUTJEN. There are given names: Thrina, Antje, Thrien, Thienke, Wiebke, Abel, Abelke, Lehnke, Gretje . Also surname GOYEN. I have been told these names are of Scandinavian origin. They are peculair to the Schleswig-Holstein area. I have been told they are not Polish. Could they be Dutch, Danish, Lappland, Finland origin? Does anyone know the origin of these kind of names??? Thanking anyone for their help that may have a clue. Trilbyee Langmack Rumbaugh

MY grandmother was Helena KRAUS >>her parents were: Joannis KRAUS and Josepha DONAD >>She was born : Sept 1889 in Oberwischau (Viseu de Sus) later moving to >Cosna >>where she met and married my grandfather June 1906 >>his name being: Carl WEISHAUPT >>Born: July 1882 >>in Jacobeni, Austria at that time now Iacobeni, Romania >>his parents were: Joannis WEISSHAUPT and Carolina Rosea BRODACZ >>Joannis' parents being: Jacob WEISSHAUPT and Elizabetha BOGDANSKI >>Jacob's parents being: Matie WEIFSHAUPT and Ester SKIBAK (bear with me on >>these spellings as the records were very old and hard to read. It mentioned >>that Matie was somewhere near Transsylvania. >> >>I think that the KRAUS family were most likely Donuba-Svabians, coming from >>a southern part of Germany (close to Bavaria) But the question now is >where? >> >>As for the WEISHAUPT/WEISSHAUPT and variate spellings. I have found most of >>my records from Jacobeni mirco films at the FHL. >> >>I did find a few others who are: >> >>Carl's sisters: >> >>Anna Maria WEISHAUPT who married Carl SCHIROWSKI in Romania >>and Rosa WEISHAUPT who married Franscaiscus SXAJKA (again spelling may >vary) >> >>If anyone has any info about any of these families please contact me at: >>shelmack@netidea.com >> >

At 10:25 PM 10/18/98, jacques comeau wrote: >I am looking for any information on a Paul Kloss born somewhere in >Germany, and his son, John. John was born on Oct. 27, 1870 in Germany >also. >In translating, someone gave the town as Konez,Christ, Konez, but cannot >find such a place. >Both either came to the US around 1876 or around 1886. Even those facts >are not clear. >Betty I'll bet this is 'Ko"nitz, Kreis Ko"nitz' West Prussia. This means 'the city of Ko"nitz, in the county of Ko"nitz'. James Birkholz birchwd@connect.net

I am looking for any information on a Paul Kloss born somewhere in Germany, and his son, John. John was born on Oct. 27, 1870 in Germany also. In translating, someone gave the town as Konez,Christ, Konez, but cannot find such a place. Both either came to the US around 1876 or around 1886. Even those facts are not clear. Betty

I am looking for my ancestors J`org Juncker b ca 1620. He had a son J`org Juncker, b ~1642. He married a Anna Margaretha Hilderbrand. They had two sons Jost Heinrich Juncker b September 13, 1676 and Hans Georg Juncker b. January 4, 1671. He married a Maria Sara Veit. They were from Nierstein, Germany. If anyone has any information on these people or think they might have a connection with my line would like to hear from you. Sharon sharon1@mychoice.net

Hi I too have Schaeffers on my tree, do you know what area yours are from? Mine married into the BUDENBERG family and had a business called SCHAEFFER & BUDENBERG. Henriette BUDENBERG 1829-1880 of Neuenkirchen = Bernhard August SCHAEFFER from Hennig-Huffen 1823-1877 they had eight children. Caroline Stockdale NZ >snip Researching my father's side of the family. His father, Fredrich Carl ENGELHARDT, was born 21 Jan 1863 in Frankfurt, Germany to Christian ENGELHARDT and Johanna Nettie BEHRENDS. He had a sister, Caroline ENGELHARDT, who remained in Germany and married Carl SCHAEFER. <

Researching my father's side of the family. His father, Fredrich Carl ENGELHARDT, was born 21 Jan 1863 in Frankfurt, Germany to Christian ENGELHARDT and Johanna Nettie BEHRENDS. He had a sister, Caroline ENGELHARDT, who remained in Germany and married Carl SCHAEFER. He had two brothers who came to America with him about 1880. They are Henry (born 15 March 1851) and Christian (born 1861). He had two brothers who stayed in Germany. They are Ludwig (born 19 Apr 1858 and died 13 Apr 1834) and Wilhelm (born 15 Jan 1859 and died 5 Apr 1933 in the town of Waldech). A sister, Fredericke (born 31 Jan 1871) came to America in 1901 and married Henry MURK, also from Germany and friend of the family in Germany. My father's mother had parents also from Germany. Jacob DURR (born 1848 perhaps in Mecklenburg or Wertenburg) came as a boy to Indiana. He grew up and married Elizabeth WITT (Born 1849 in Germany). They had two children before moving to Ellensburg, WA Terr in 1879 where they had three more children. Elizabeth probably has the surname HAHN or HAWN in her family. Perhaps her mother had a second marriage by that name. If any of this sounds familiar, or if there are suggestions on how to find some of my German relatives please contact me at mailto:george@arias.net or post here. Thank you, Bud Engelhardt in Spokane, WA

Hello, I am new to this list and my name is Kathleen. I am from Nebraska and I am researching some German ancestors of mine and my husbands. The names are Kerner, Creen or Creene, Grone, Koester that I know of for now. I just started my Dads and husbands and have been working on my mothers for awhile. Is Gardiner a German name? I will get more information sorted out. I have never been on a country list, just a names list. Bruno Creen born in Berlin b. abt 1880 moved to NYC, NY Philip Kerner and Jenny James both born 1861 in Frankfurt Germany Bernard Grone May 8, 1874 in Ollenburg, Germany Bertha Catharine Louise Koester June 18, 1882 Oldenburg, Germany Bernard came to America either alone or with uncles as a teen. Bertha came with family also as a teen. Nancy Gardiner was born around 1790 and I don't know where. She married a Hensley in Tennessee. Thank you for your help and advice. Blessings, Kathleen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello, I am searching for my maternal grandparents who emigrated from Germany to NYC? Sometime between 1880 and 1898. Gieritz could be Geiritz, Geritz. Any information is appreciated. Thank you, Bill

Hello. I am searching for information on my direct ancestors. Johann Simon FRANCKENFELD and his wife, Anna Eva (Eve?) BEITELMAN. They may have been married in Kirberg or nearby c.1730-1740?? They had 5 sons in Germany before emigrating to the U.S.:Philipp Peter, Johann Heinrich, Johann Peter (died as an infant), Johann Andreas, Philipp Adam, and Johann Peter (died at age 6). I would very much like to know more about Simon and Eva (Eve?), their birthdates, date of marriage, and information about their parents. Eva's surname may have other spellings...BEIDELMAN, BEUTELMAN, etc. but BEITELMAN is the surname given to me by another member of my family. ALSO, a more distant direct ancestor in my FRANKENFELD line was Hubert FRANCKENFELD, the son of Class Thomas VON FRANCKENFELD (b.1603 in Francorchamps, Belgium, d. 7-01-1692) and his wife Anne DEUM (DEUN?)(b. ??? d. 10-11-1669). I think Class Thomas and Anna had two sons named Hubert, but I may be mistaken. Their first Hubert, born in 1625(?) remained in Kirberg and was a tavern owner and beer brewer. The second Hubert we think was born in 1644 and married Anna Dorothea WALLRABENSTEIN. We don't have any dates for Anna Dorothea or any information about her. I noticed there is a village very near Kirberg by the name of Wallrabenstein...could it be that she is from a family from that village? Hubert and Anna Dorothea had at least two sons, Johann Christoff (b.1673) and Peter Philipp (b. 1678). We would like to know if they had any other children, their dates, and to confirm that there were two Huberts born to Class Thomas VON FRANCKENFELD and his wife Anna DEUM (DEUN?). Information regarding Anna DEUM's (DEUN?) and Anna Dorothea WALLRABENSTEIN's dates, family and origins would also be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much for reading this, and I hope there is some information out there that can be shared! If anyone is interested in what happened to Johann Simon and Anna Eva's line after coming to America, I have that information. Diane Frankenfield

Hello. I am searching for information on my direct ancestors. Johann Simon FRANCKENFELD and his wife, Anna Eva (Eve?) BEITELMAN. They may have been married in Kirberg or nearby c.1730-1740?? They had 5 sons in Germany before emigrating to the U.S.:Philipp Peter, Johann Heinrich, Johann Peter (died as an infant), Johann Andreas, Philipp Adam, and Johann Peter (died at age 6). I would very much like to know more about Simon and Eva (Eve?), their birthdates, date of marriage, and information about their parents. Eva's surname may have other spellings...BEIDELMAN, BEUTELMAN, etc. but BEITELMAN is the surname given to me by another member of my family. ALSO, a more distant direct ancestor in my FRANKENFELD line was Hubert FRANCKENFELD, the son of Class Thomas VON FRANCKENFELD (b.1603 in Francorchamps, Belgium, d. 7-01-1692) and his wife Anne DEUM (DEUN?)(b. ??? d. 10-11-1669). I think Class Thomas and Anna had two sons named Hubert, but I may be mistaken. Their first Hubert, born in 1625(?) remained in Kirberg and was a tavern owner and beer brewer. The second Hubert we think was born in 1644 and married Anna Dorothea WALLRABENSTEIN. We don't have any dates for Anna Dorothea or any information about her. I noticed there is a village very near Kirberg by the name of Wallrabenstein...could it be that she is from a family from that village? Hubert and Anna Dorothea had at least two sons, Johann Christoff (b.1673) and Peter Philipp (b. 1678). We would like to know if they had any other children, their dates, and to confirm that there were two Huberts born to Class Thomas VON FRANCKENFELD and his wife Anna DEUM (DEUN?). Information regarding Anna DEUM's (DEUN?) and Anna Dorothea WALLRABENSTEIN's dates, family and origins would also be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much for reading this, and I hope there is some information out there that can be shared! If anyone is interested in what happened to Johann Simon and Anna Eva's line after coming to America, I have that information. Diane Frankenfield

Hello to the person who sent this to me - what wonderful information! I think I may have found the person I was looking for..his name was Joel WALTERS with a wife Mary. I found a Jall WALTERS with a wife Mary about the right ages in Bethlehem borough. Is it possible to verify the name at all, or get more information on this family? Also, are there other on-line census-type listings for Bethlehem and Bucks Co. PA available??Thanks again! Diane ---------- > From: BUNDESLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com > To: BUNDESLAND-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: BUNDESLAND-D Digest V98 #36 > Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 11:16 AM >

Dear Researchers, The Northampton Co., PA census for 1890 is steadily going online at http://www.enter.net/~ritar This does not contain all the information available in a US Census, but does contain the names, ages, and in some cases, occupations of everyone in the county. In city areas street addresses are included. So far the following are online: Bethlehem--north and south, Bath Borough, Chapman Quarries, Freemansburg, Hanover Tsp., Hellertown Borough, Moravian Seminary, all of Lower Saucon Twsp: Ironville, Leithsville, Redington, Seidersville, Shimers- ville, and the part of Hellertown located in Lower Saucon. Also, Allen Township including Catasauqua, Howertown, Newport, Siegfried's Bridge, and Stemton. Also, Palmer Township, East Bangor, Mt. Bethel--Upper and Lower, Bethlehem Twsp., and Lehigh Twsp. including Berlinsville, Cherryville, Treichlers, & Danielsville. Over 40,000 names. More name are being added weekly. In 1890, Northampton Co. contained a very high percentage of people of German descent. Still does. Mary

fjohnson@bigsky.net I am wondering if there are other Branches to mine outhere. My Greatgrandfather was John Goetsch of Sheboygan Minn. Who married Minnie Hoffman of Freeport Ill. They lived in Illionoise,Wisconsin and Minnasota,. Minnie was a midwife who ran the Goetsch maturnity Hospital in Blooming Prairie Minn. They had 5 known children. Louie, Florence, Frank, Sophie and John. Frank married Ann Grace Nelson. They had 4 Daughters. Katheryn Odell, Dorothy Ann, Frances Roberta and Betty Lou. Does anyone have any more info. I dont know who Johns or Minnie's Parents were.

I am researching the Guttner/Gattner/Guettner/Gittner/Gudtner family from all over Germany. In particular I am interested in Guttners from Prussia and Silesia. However if you could provide any information I will be grateful. Darius von Guttner Melbourne, Australia

I am looking for information on the surname of KRUMM. My great grandmother was Augusta Frederika Krumm. She lived, married and died in Fon du Lac Wisconsin. Any help is appreciated Thanks Patrick McCann, Sr.

Is anyone out there searching for the Burkart, Burkhart, or other various spellings? I know that I have a Joseph Burkart born in 1850 in Cincinnati, son of John and Pauline (?) Burkart. Some family supposedly went to the Dakotas, and some to Iowa. Not much to go on, but not a very common name. Thanks in advance. Tina Burkart Gibson ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]