Hi Elmien Thank you for your insights. My grandmother was from Oudtshoorn but had the baby in CT so the first thing to find out, if it's possible, is at what stage she moved to CT. I hope I get the answers one day. Antoinette -----Original Message----- From: buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elmien Wood Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:16 AM To: buitenposten@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BP] "Non-paternity event" - my unknown grandfather andDNAtesting Hi Antoinette I do apologize for not replying sooner. The sad new is that DNA testing would not solve the problem of who your grandfather was. At present only the male to male to male or the female to female to female line can be traced. The good news is that John Murray would not have been a person who came and went for a short period of time. He would have been a neighbour, an employer, a church friend, a school friend, even a teacher. The first thing to find out is where your grandmother lived when she fell pregnant. If you know how old she was, you can also look at confirmation documents. Maybe someone who researches the Murray family can find a person who was living in the same area at the same time. It would be difficult, but it is doable! And it would be very rewarding. If it was a small community, there will definitely be someone who knew exactly who he was. (I know someone who was born in the ninety twenties, but she is unique.) The minutes of the church might have something on the couple, but they might not have recorded the couple's parents. Good luck! Regards Elmien