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    1. [BP] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09 en 13 Junie 2017
    2. Hetta Scholtz

    3. Hester, Is julle darem nog okay? orraaait? Weet nie hoe om te sê of wat om te sê nie. Na die brande. Hetta Scholtz -----Original Message----- From: Hester Marx via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:48 PM To: [email protected] ; ZAF-INDEXERS ; [email protected] Cc: Hester Marx Subject: [BP] [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09 en 13 Junie 2017 Gesinne wat in brande sterf JOHNSTON, Tony en Madré en hul driejarige seuntjie, Michael, oorlede Woensdag 07 Junie 2017 in brand op hul plaas Kalanderkloof, Elandskraal-omgewing in Karatara-gebied. Hul ouers is Nelien (née JOUBERT) en Thomas JOHNSTON; Gert en Triena VAN DER MERWE. Roudiens Donderdag 15 Junie 12:00 NG Moedergemeente, Humansdorp (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/06/2017) VAN DER RIET, Walter (73) en Myrna (72) van die plaas Langlaagte naby Thornhill, Oos-Kaap. Myra sterf Saterdag 10 Junie 2017 op die plaas; Walter sterf Sondag 11 Junie 2017 in hospitaal. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 13 Junie 2017) Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com

    06/14/2017 04:24:57
    1. Re: [BP] [Press] Daily News Fri 2 June 2017 CREDITORS......
    2. C.J. NÖTHLING

    3. Met verwysing na my vorige kennis gewing insake Jacoba Wilhelmina Blomerus, sy is gebore op 27 April 1928, en oorlede op 31 Mei 2027.

    06/13/2017 02:15:39
    1. Re: [BP] [Press] Daily News Fri 2 June 2017 CREDITORS......
    2. C.J. NÖTHLING

    3. Vandag het die roudiens en teraardebestelling van ons tante, Jacoba Wilhelmina Blomerus (nee Smit) in Pretoria plaasgevind.

    06/13/2017 02:13:26
    1. [BP] [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09 en 13 Junie 2017
    2. Hester Marx

    3. Gesinne wat in brande sterf JOHNSTON, Tony en Madré en hul driejarige seuntjie, Michael, oorlede Woensdag 07 Junie 2017 in brand op hul plaas Kalanderkloof, Elandskraal-omgewing in Karatara-gebied. Hul ouers is Nelien (née JOUBERT) en Thomas JOHNSTON; Gert en Triena VAN DER MERWE. Roudiens Donderdag 15 Junie 12:00 NG Moedergemeente, Humansdorp (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/06/2017) VAN DER RIET, Walter (73) en Myrna (72) van die plaas Langlaagte naby Thornhill, Oos-Kaap. Myra sterf Saterdag 10 Junie 2017 op die plaas; Walter sterf Sondag 11 Junie 2017 in hospitaal. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 13 Junie 2017) Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

    06/13/2017 01:48:19
    1. [BP] [Press] The Mercury Tues 13 June 2017
    2. Aletta Magrieta Quebbemann

    3. Dag vriende, QUICKQUIP:- " Children are all foreigners."- Ralph Waldo EMERSON. " I love those who can smile in trouble." - Italian Renaissance polymath Leonardo DA VINCI (1452---1519) TODAY IN HISTORY:- 323BC Alexander the Great dies of a fever, aged 33. 1944:- Germany launches its firs V-1 missiles attack against London. DEATHS:- BENJAMIN John. Funeral on 13 June 2017 at Fynnlands Baptist Church Bluff at 10:00am till 12:00pm. BONHOMME Rodney Wayne x Gail. Father of Janine, Meryck and Bryce. Grandfather of Tayla-Lea, Talia & Tyler. Brother and brother-in-law and father-in-law. Funeral on 16 June 2017 at St Michaels Catholic Parish Greenwood Park. Viewing at 10:30am Service at 11:00am proceeding to Redhill Cemetery. CARLYLE David . Former Colleague who practiced law and life. From all at Lawrie WRIGHT.; Funeral at Glenwood Presbyterian Church , Frere Rd ,Glenwood on 15 June 2017 at 11am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959. DUNCAN Ian James Patterson 15 Nov 1936 ----8 June 2017 x Sandra (Sandy) . Father of Mark and Paul. Father-in-law of Jan and Tracy and grandfather of Alistair, Emma, Erin and Sarah ; Brother-in-law of Gail. Uncle of Candace and Carryn and their families; Condolences to Sandy, Mark, Paul and family. >From The Directors and Staff at I J DUNCAN & PARTNERS. ; Condolences from Ivan & Jeanne CLARK and family. ; Funeral at St Margaret's Anglican Church Virginia Durban on 15 June 2017 at 11:00am. Donations to CHOC. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959 ELSNER Gert + 10 June. Husband, father , grandfather, Captain.; Memorial on 15 June 2017 at 1:00pm at Immanuel Church Somerset Park Umhlanga. McCANN Elaine Edith 2 April 1929 ---10 June 2017 at age 88.. Mother of Gerald, Geoffrey and + Gary and Gregory. Mother-in-law of Maureen and Shilo. Grandmother of Kristi-Lee, Tamryn, Tyler and Maxine. Grandmother of Danielle, Jordan, Emily and Holly. Private Family Memorial at her request. MONISI Richard + 10 June 2017 at age 48. It was a hit and run. He just completed hs 13th Comrades . He was also blind. He was married to Sonti MONISI (31) They have 3 children. (3,12 and 18). Memorial Service in Orlando on Wed 14 June 2017 and Funeral at Elim , Limpopo at the weekend. - Nosipho MNGOMA. MORSE Wendy (Ex Sharks Board0 + 11 June 2017. Sister of Tony, Joy and + David . SHANLEY'S 031 2057644. NAIDOO Parasuramen (Krish) . Father of Sumendrie, Yashania and Tarusha NAIDOO. Father-in-law of Sugendran, Deshan and Thivashen. Brother of Peter, Sheila , Ronnie and Dolly. Brother-in-law of + Dr Vis GOVENDER and Steven REDDY. Date of Funeral 13 June 2017 at Vishnu Temple Hall Havenside Drive. Body will lie in state at Vishnu Temple Hall from 10:30 am ----1:30pm proceeding to Clare Estate Crematorium for cremation at 3:00pm. TEL:_ Yashanie - 083 306 8090; Ronnie - 082 487 0520. PHIPPS Sandra (Sandy) + 11 June 2017 x Tommy. Mother to Stan and Heather, Clint and Debbie, Janine & James. Grandmother to Chad, Matthew, Robyn, Caleb, Nicole , Natalie , Hannah, Michael and Cameron. ; Sympathy to family from Phil & Jean RADCLIFFE , Mark, Debs and girls. SERVATIUS Brenda Mary 20 Nov 1935 ----9 June 2017. Friend of Edwina ,Sr Anneliese OP, Fiona and Clara. ; Requiem Mass at The Holy Trinity Catholic Church Musgrave Rd, Durban on 15 June 2017 at 14:30pm Cremation private. SHANLEY'S 031 2057644. WENTZEL Gertruida Johanna (Trudy) 15 Sept 1929 ---11 June 2017 in Johannesburg. Mother and grandmother of Henning, Bev, Simon and Emma-Jayne. RIP. MEMORIAM:- MILNE Margaret + 13 June 1989. Mother and grandmother of George , Susan, Tracey and James. TERANES Peter + 12 June 2002. Father, grand and great-grandfather and brother-in-law . Remembered by family. Gegroet uit Durban Rita Quebbemann.

    06/13/2017 01:25:07
    1. [BP] [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap 13 Junie 2017
    2. Hester Marx

    3. Sterfgevalle STRYDOM, Chris. +Donderdag 08 Junie 2017 na kort siekbed. Vrou, kinders, kleinkinders. Gedenkdiens Donderdag 15 Junie 2017 15:00 NG Kerk Lorraine, Marnelaan 7, Lorraine. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 10/13/06/2017) Sue, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028 In Memoriam OLIVIER, Riaan. 18 November 1980 – 13 Junie 2009. Ma, Ernie, susters en swaers. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 13/06/2017) Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

    06/13/2017 11:12:46
    1. [BP] [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap Vrydag 09 Junie 2017
    2. Hester Marx

    3. Troudagvierings SMITH, Chris en Babs. Jeffreysbaai. 55 jaar getroud. ‘n Voorreg en voorbeeld vir al die kinders. Mag daar nog baie wees. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/06/2017) Sterfgevalle OOSTHUIZEN, Elizabeth (Liz). 83 jaar. +Woensdag 07 Junie 2017 te Uitenhage. Kinders, kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Gedenkdiens Maandag 12 Junie 2017 14:00 NG Kerk-Oos, Freresingel, Uitenhage. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 09/06/2017) Ooskaap Begrafnisdienste 041 992 5704 Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

    06/13/2017 11:04:33
    1. [BP] [PRESS] Die Burger Oos-Kaap Donderdag 08 Junie 2017
    2. Hester Marx

    3. Sterfgevalle HEYNS, Ignatius Marthinus. * 18 Maart 1942 +Saterdag 03 Junie 2017. Kinders, kleinkinders. Diens Vrydag 09 Junie 2017 13:00 NG Kerk Oos-gemeente, Uitenhage. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08/06/2017) Johan de Vos AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066 MINNIE, Pieter. +Dinsdag 06 Junie 2017. Vier kinders, ses kleinkinders, agterkleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Saterdag 10 Junie 2017 10:00 NG Kerk Sonheuwels, Bougainvillea Rylaan, Westering. Forest Hill-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08/06/2017) Anneke Geel AVBOB Newtonpark 041 363 0041 VAN DEVENTER, Martie. 69 jaar. +Dinsdag 06 Junie 2017. Eggenoot, kinders, kleinkinders. Teraardebestelling Vrydag 09 Junie 2017 10:00 Jubilee Park Munisipale-begraafplaas, Uitenhage. Gedenkdiens Sondag 18 Junie 2017 11:00 NG Kerk De Mist, Uysstraat, Uitenhage. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 08/06/2017) Ooskaap Begrafnisdienste 041 992 5704 Ná vyf dae en vyf nagte sonder Eskom-krag en brande rondom ons Geelhoutboomvallei, is ek terug. Hester Marx, Loerie [email protected]

    06/13/2017 10:57:31
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Johan Morgenthal

    3. Johan: Hilletje A. Jacobs se doopinskrywing: (as jy dit nog nie het nie, by gesê!) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VRL9-JCQ Johan Morgenthal, Stellenbosch On 12-Jun-17 2:45 PM, Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN wrote: > Johan, > My JG BANTJES wat met VERMEULEN getroud was, was die seun van JG BANTJES en Hilletje Agnita JACOBS. > Het iemand vir my meer inligting oor Hilletje JACOBS ?. > > Groete > Johan Vermeulen > > -----Original Message----- > From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jbrink1945--- via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: 12 June 2017 02:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; Marietta van Zyl > Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > Marietta, > > Dis wat ek het: > > Hendrina Cornelia CALITZ *c.1745 =NGK Kaapstad 16.10.1745, dv (stamvader) Matthys/Matthias CALITZ en (X 25.2.1742) Petronella/Pieternella VAN EEDEN, x Kaapstad 7.4.1765 (as 3de vrou van die wewenaar en stamvader) Jan Gerrit (oba Jan Geert; Jan Geerze) BANTJES, 1s 4d {Hy was x Hilletje Agnita JACOBS en xx Engela Petronella HARTOGH. Uit sy 1ste huwelik was hy die oupa-grootjie van die Voortrekker van Gelofte-faam, Jan Gerritze BANTJES} [Oudekaapschefamilien Deel 1, p23,141,170; SAG CD 1, p 122,493; CD 2, p285; CD 4, p550; Malherbe, p39.] > > Dis dan die laasgenoemde BANTJES wat ter sprake gekom het in Daniel Jacobs se berig. > > Sterkte! > > Johan > MELKBOSSTRAND > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Marietta van Zyl via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: 12 June 2017 12:40 > To: [email protected] > Cc: Marietta van Zyl > Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. > > Marietta VAN ZYL > Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 > Sel: 0827765998 > Huis: 0118945917 > Faks: 0867563254 > Epos: [email protected] > Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A death certificate shows you have died. > A photo album shows you have lived. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > Daniel, > Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud > 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. > Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere > inligting wil bekom. > Groete > Johan Vermeulen. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Elani via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: Elani > Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > Daniel > > Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. > > Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! > > Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? > > Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. > > Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. > > Groete > > Elani > > -----Original Message----- > From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] > Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > Beste Vriende > > Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: > > "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet > Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… > > > Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES > BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU > gedenkteken." > > > Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik > 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel > het. > > > Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is > egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. > > > As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet > asseblief vir my. > > > Baie dankie. > > > Vriendelike groete > > > Daniel Jacobs > > Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za > Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs > > Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding > > Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) > Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe > (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De > Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith > (Wellington) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com -- Johan C. Morgenthal Rozendallaan 10 Stellenbosch 7600 Tel: 021 887 0888 Sel: 072 379 5906 http://www.jcmorgenthal.co.za/version11/

    06/12/2017 02:25:03
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Daniel Jacobs

    3. Beste Vriende Dankie vir al die terugvoer oor die Bantjes-familie. Ek sal in die loop van die week daarop reageer. Groete Daniel Jacobs On 12 Jun 2017 6:34 PM, "Marietta van Zyl via BUITENPOSTEN" < [email protected]> wrote: > Moenie my mis as dit gaan oor die Bantjes mense nie asb. Ek kort baie oor > hulle, asb. > > Marietta VAN ZYL > Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 > Sel: 0827765998 > Huis: 0118945917 > Faks: 0867563254 > Epos: [email protected] > Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, > Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL > A death certificate shows you have died. > A photo album shows you have lived. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Charlie Els via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 6:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Charlie Els <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > Johan, ek stuur vir jou iets van die lys af. > > Groete, > > CHARLIE > > -----Original Message----- > From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > Johan, > My JG BANTJES wat met VERMEULEN getroud was, was die seun van JG BANTJES en > Hilletje Agnita JACOBS. > Het iemand vir my meer inligting oor Hilletje JACOBS ?. > > Groete > Johan Vermeulen > > -----Original Message----- > From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > jbrink1945--- via BUITENPOSTEN > Sent: 12 June 2017 02:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; Marietta van Zyl > Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF > > Marietta, > > Dis wat ek het: > > Hendrina Cornelia CALITZ *c.1745 =NGK Kaapstad 16.10.1745, dv (stamvader) > Matthys/Matthias CALITZ en (X 25.2.1742) Petronella/Pieternella VAN EEDEN, > x Kaapstad 7.4.1765 (as 3de vrou van die wewenaar en stamvader) Jan Gerrit > (oba Jan Geert; Jan Geerze) BANTJES, 1s 4d {Hy was x Hilletje Agnita > JACOBS > en xx Engela Petronella HARTOGH. Uit sy 1ste huwelik was hy die > oupa-grootjie van die Voortrekker van Gelofte-faam, Jan Gerritze BANTJES} > [Oudekaapschefamilien Deel 1, p23,141,170; SAG CD 1, p 122,493; CD 2, p285; > CD 4, p550; Malherbe, p39.] > > Dis dan die laasgenoemde BANTJES wat ter sprake gekom het in Daniel Jacobs > se berig. > > Sterkte! > > Johan > MELKBOSSTRAND > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    06/12/2017 12:51:49
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Marietta van Zyl

    3. Moenie my mis as dit gaan oor die Bantjes mense nie asb. Ek kort baie oor hulle, asb. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A  death  certificate shows you have died. A  photo  album shows you have  lived.  -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlie Els via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 6:21 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Charlie Els <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Johan, ek stuur vir jou iets van die lys af. Groete, CHARLIE -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:45 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Johan, My JG BANTJES wat met VERMEULEN getroud was, was die seun van JG BANTJES en Hilletje Agnita JACOBS. Het iemand vir my meer inligting oor Hilletje JACOBS ?. Groete Johan Vermeulen -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jbrink1945--- via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 12 June 2017 02:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; Marietta van Zyl Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Marietta, Dis wat ek het: Hendrina Cornelia CALITZ *c.1745 =NGK Kaapstad 16.10.1745, dv (stamvader) Matthys/Matthias CALITZ en (X 25.2.1742) Petronella/Pieternella VAN EEDEN, x Kaapstad 7.4.1765 (as 3de vrou van die wewenaar en stamvader) Jan Gerrit (oba Jan Geert; Jan Geerze) BANTJES, 1s 4d {Hy was x Hilletje Agnita JACOBS en xx Engela Petronella HARTOGH. Uit sy 1ste huwelik was hy die oupa-grootjie van die Voortrekker van Gelofte-faam, Jan Gerritze BANTJES} [Oudekaapschefamilien Deel 1, p23,141,170; SAG CD 1, p 122,493; CD 2, p285; CD 4, p550; Malherbe, p39.] Dis dan die laasgenoemde BANTJES wat ter sprake gekom het in Daniel Jacobs se berig. Sterkte! Johan MELKBOSSTRAND ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 12:34:33
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Marietta van Zyl

    3. Baie dankie Charlie Nou kan ek sommer my data aanvul met die info, want ek het absoluut net sy naam (voorletters), sonder niks. Groete Marietta -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlie Els via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 5:45 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Charlie Els <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Ja, Marietta, hy was die Bantjes stamvader vanaf Winschoten, Gröningen in Nederland wat na Suid-Afrika gekom het op die skip "Stadwyk" op 2 November 1754. Kom aan op 10 Maart 1755. Word burger in 1760. Die J G Bantjes x Maria Adriana Vermeulen waarvan Johan praat was die stamvader se seun by Hilletjie Agnita Jacobs van die Kaap. Groete, CHARLIE -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marietta van Zyl via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:40 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Marietta van Zyl <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A  death  certificate shows you have died. A  photo  album shows you have  lived.  -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elani via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU gedenkteken." Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel het. Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet asseblief vir my. Baie dankie. Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]eb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 12:33:31
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Charlie Els

    3. Johan, ek stuur vir jou iets van die lys af. Groete, CHARLIE -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:45 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Johan, My JG BANTJES wat met VERMEULEN getroud was, was die seun van JG BANTJES en Hilletje Agnita JACOBS. Het iemand vir my meer inligting oor Hilletje JACOBS ?. Groete Johan Vermeulen -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jbrink1945--- via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 12 June 2017 02:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; Marietta van Zyl Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Marietta, Dis wat ek het: Hendrina Cornelia CALITZ *c.1745 =NGK Kaapstad 16.10.1745, dv (stamvader) Matthys/Matthias CALITZ en (X 25.2.1742) Petronella/Pieternella VAN EEDEN, x Kaapstad 7.4.1765 (as 3de vrou van die wewenaar en stamvader) Jan Gerrit (oba Jan Geert; Jan Geerze) BANTJES, 1s 4d {Hy was x Hilletje Agnita JACOBS en xx Engela Petronella HARTOGH. Uit sy 1ste huwelik was hy die oupa-grootjie van die Voortrekker van Gelofte-faam, Jan Gerritze BANTJES} [Oudekaapschefamilien Deel 1, p23,141,170; SAG CD 1, p 122,493; CD 2, p285; CD 4, p550; Malherbe, p39.] Dis dan die laasgenoemde BANTJES wat ter sprake gekom het in Daniel Jacobs se berig. Sterkte! Johan MELKBOSSTRAND

    06/12/2017 12:20:56
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Charlie Els

    3. Johan, Uit my Bantjes databasis beaam alles wat jy hieronder skryf. Groete, CHARLIE -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jbrink1945--- via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; Marietta van Zyl <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Marietta, Dis wat ek het: Hendrina Cornelia CALITZ *c.1745 =NGK Kaapstad 16.10.1745, dv (stamvader) Matthys/Matthias CALITZ en (X 25.2.1742) Petronella/Pieternella VAN EEDEN, x Kaapstad 7.4.1765 (as 3de vrou van die wewenaar en stamvader) Jan Gerrit (oba Jan Geert; Jan Geerze) BANTJES, 1s 4d {Hy was x Hilletje Agnita JACOBS en xx Engela Petronella HARTOGH. Uit sy 1ste huwelik was hy die oupa-grootjie van die Voortrekker van Gelofte-faam, Jan Gerritze BANTJES} [Oudekaapschefamilien Deel 1, p23,141,170; SAG CD 1, p 122,493; CD 2, p285; CD 4, p550; Malherbe, p39.] Dis dan die laasgenoemde BANTJES wat ter sprake gekom het in Daniel Jacobs se berig. Sterkte! Johan MELKBOSSTRAND Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Marietta van Zyl via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 12 June 2017 12:40 To: [email protected] Cc: Marietta van Zyl Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A death certificate shows you have died. A photo album shows you have lived. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elani via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU gedenkteken." Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel het. Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet asseblief vir my. Baie dankie. Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 11:51:16
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Charlie Els

    3. Ja, Marietta, hy was die Bantjes stamvader vanaf Winschoten, Gröningen in Nederland wat na Suid-Afrika gekom het op die skip "Stadwyk" op 2 November 1754. Kom aan op 10 Maart 1755. Word burger in 1760. Die J G Bantjes x Maria Adriana Vermeulen waarvan Johan praat was die stamvader se seun by Hilletjie Agnita Jacobs van die Kaap. Groete, CHARLIE -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marietta van Zyl via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:40 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Marietta van Zyl <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A  death  certificate shows you have died. A  photo  album shows you have  lived.  -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elani via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU gedenkteken." Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel het. Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet asseblief vir my. Baie dankie. Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 11:44:38
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Johan Vermeulen

    3. Johan, My JG BANTJES wat met VERMEULEN getroud was, was die seun van JG BANTJES en Hilletje Agnita JACOBS. Het iemand vir my meer inligting oor Hilletje JACOBS ?. Groete Johan Vermeulen -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jbrink1945--- via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 12 June 2017 02:13 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; Marietta van Zyl Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Marietta, Dis wat ek het: Hendrina Cornelia CALITZ *c.1745 =NGK Kaapstad 16.10.1745, dv (stamvader) Matthys/Matthias CALITZ en (X 25.2.1742) Petronella/Pieternella VAN EEDEN, x Kaapstad 7.4.1765 (as 3de vrou van die wewenaar en stamvader) Jan Gerrit (oba Jan Geert; Jan Geerze) BANTJES, 1s 4d {Hy was x Hilletje Agnita JACOBS en xx Engela Petronella HARTOGH. Uit sy 1ste huwelik was hy die oupa-grootjie van die Voortrekker van Gelofte-faam, Jan Gerritze BANTJES} [Oudekaapschefamilien Deel 1, p23,141,170; SAG CD 1, p 122,493; CD 2, p285; CD 4, p550; Malherbe, p39.] Dis dan die laasgenoemde BANTJES wat ter sprake gekom het in Daniel Jacobs se berig. Sterkte! Johan MELKBOSSTRAND Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Marietta van Zyl via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 12 June 2017 12:40 To: [email protected] Cc: Marietta van Zyl Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A death certificate shows you have died. A photo album shows you have lived. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elani via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU gedenkteken." Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel het. Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet asseblief vir my. Baie dankie. Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 08:45:20
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Janet Melville

    3. Ek het nogal baie want die Bantjies was n slag op Humansdorp en een van die Melvill's let op sonder die e die het later bygekom is benoem na hom . Toe het ek bietjie daarop ingegaan. Groete Janet Melville +27 41 368 4668 (Home) 083 642 7744 (Cell) [email protected] My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A death certificate shows you have died. A photo album shows you have lived. Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende

    06/12/2017 07:50:32
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Marietta van Zyl

    3. My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A  death  certificate shows you have died. A  photo  album shows you have  lived.  -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elani via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU gedenkteken." Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel het. Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet asseblief vir my. Baie dankie. Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 07:40:17
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF
    2. Johan Vermeulen

    3. Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elani via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU gedenkteken." Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel het. Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet asseblief vir my. Baie dankie. Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 07:20:08
    1. Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF

    3. Marietta, Dis wat ek het: Hendrina Cornelia CALITZ *c.1745 =NGK Kaapstad 16.10.1745, dv (stamvader) Matthys/Matthias CALITZ en (X 25.2.1742) Petronella/Pieternella VAN EEDEN, x Kaapstad 7.4.1765 (as 3de vrou van die wewenaar en stamvader) Jan Gerrit (oba Jan Geert; Jan Geerze) BANTJES, 1s 4d {Hy was x Hilletje Agnita JACOBS en xx Engela Petronella HARTOGH. Uit sy 1ste huwelik was hy die oupa-grootjie van die Voortrekker van Gelofte-faam, Jan Gerritze BANTJES} [Oudekaapschefamilien Deel 1, p23,141,170; SAG CD 1, p 122,493; CD 2, p285; CD 4, p550; Malherbe, p39.] Dis dan die laasgenoemde BANTJES wat ter sprake gekom het in Daniel Jacobs se berig. Sterkte! Johan MELKBOSSTRAND Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Marietta van Zyl via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 12 June 2017 12:40 To: [email protected] Cc: Marietta van Zyl Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF My JG Bantrjes is getroud in 1765 met 'n Hendrina Calitz *1745, maar ek het dit nog nooit opgevolg nie. Marietta VAN ZYL Impala Park, Boksburg, 1459 Sel: 0827765998 Huis: 0118945917 Faks: 0867563254 Epos: [email protected] Bezuidenhoudt, Botes, Bothma, Burger, BURNESS, Fourie, GOUWS, Greeff, Mare, Olivier, SCHWARTZ, Snyman, Thorpe, VAN ZYL A  death  certificate shows you have died. A  photo  album shows you have  lived.  -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johan Vermeulen via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Johan Vermeulen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel, Ek het 'n Jan Gerritz BANTJES, gedoop 18 Maart 1759 in die Paarl en getroud 17 Desember 1783 met Maria Adriana VERMEULEN. Is die JG BANTJES dalk hierdie Jan ? Indien wel sal ek graag sy verdere inligting wil bekom. Groete Johan Vermeulen. -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elani via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 06:40 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Elani Subject: Re: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Daniel Ja ! Ek sal dit graag doen. Ek het BANTJES in my familie ! Kan jy vra dat ek dit kry ? Ek wil nie dupliseer nie. Dit is nie dalk Jan Gerritze BANTJES nie. Groete Elani -----Original Message----- From: BUITENPOSTEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Jacobs via BUITENPOSTEN Sent: 11 June 2017 12:46 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Daniel Jacobs; [email protected] Subject: [BP] BANTJES, KERKENBERG, DEBORAH RETIEF Beste Vriende Ek is gekontak deur 'n man wat o.a. die volgende sê: "Ek het in die Harrismith distrik geboer, naby die Kerkenberg, waar Piet Retief se dogter Deborah sy naam en die datum op ‘n rotswand geverf het… Ek het omtrent 70 jaar gelede as jong seun afgekom op ‘n geskrif PLAAS DES BANTJES in die veld tussen Retief Klip (Kerkenberg) en die KAALVOET VROU gedenkteken." Die persoon noem dat hy eers 'n paar jaar gelede besef het dat dit moontlik 'n verwysing na JG Bantjes is wat o.a. die Retief/Dingaan traktaat opgestel het. Die persoon het toe intensief navorsing begin doen oor JG Bantjies. Hy is egter bejaard en sal graag wil sien dat iemand die navorsing verder neem. As daar iemand is wat belangstel in JG Bantjes se geskiedenis laat weet asseblief vir my. Baie dankie. Vriendelike groete Daniel Jacobs Webtuiste: www.gendata.co.za Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/danielmalanjacobs Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na http://bit.ly/genhandleiding Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) Ungerer (Swellendam) Smith (Wellington) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/12/2017 07:12:42