Dag vriende, QUICKQUIP:-" Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are. " - Bertolt BRECHT. BIRTHS:- HURTER nee HAWKINS-DADY Jeremy & Gail a boy Rhys * 22 Jan 2013 .Brother to James. THEUNISSEN nee HARRIS James & Tarryn a daughter Emma * at Parklands. Sister to Rachel. 2nd Grandchild to Nick & Gaynor. THORNHILL nee BEAUMONT Philip & Jenny a son Ryan * 14 Jan 2013 in Albelito Hospital. Brother to Jack. ENGAGEMENTS:-SCHONERT & WILKEN Peter & Sue's son Kurt to Amber, daughter of Raymond and Marchelle. WEDDINGS:-CLARK Craig & Robyn WYCHE married at Market Restaurant, Durban. (photo) COLDWELL Alastair & Penny FITCHET married at Michaelhouse Chapel, Balgowan. (photo) DEXTER Neil & Cayleigh married at Camden , London. (photo). FARREL Spike & Dede married in Uhmlanga (photo) FISHER Chris & Quinta VAN STEIJN married at Palm Dune Beach Lodge, Blythdale Beach. (photo) GOVENDER Kris & Ramona KASAVAN married at Mumbai Dream Events Verulam. (photo) GOVENDER Ludwade & Deona married at Mount Edgecombe Coference Centre. (photo). GOVENDER Mitchell & Karosha SEWNATH married at Yellowwood Park Civic Centre. (photo) GOVENDER Russell & Shetil NANA married at Talloula, Bothas Hill. HANEKOM Lance & Ashleigh GUEDES married at Hartford House , KZN Midlands. MASUKU Sandile & Hlonipile married at Protea Hotel, Umfolozi River. (photo). McNEE Brendon & Andrea GOLDMAN married at Providence, KZN Midlands. (photo). NARAIN Davis & Thirusha NAIDOO married at Shastri Park Community Hall, Phoenix. (photo). PILLAY Radcliffe & Elisha Lee SAMUEL married at Faith Centre Ministries Malvern. (photo) REDDY Vinay & Saliah Noor MOHAMED married at Break Village Temple Hall , Tongaat. (photo). RICHMAN Steven & Chantelle married at Nkuthu Gardens , Waterfall.(photo) RINGO Ryan Clifton & Kezia Leigh DUKE married at King's Grant, Ixopo. (photo) SINGH Bhavna & Amith NAMLAL married at Amanzimtoti Civic Hall. (photo) SWEETLAND Julius & Kate OLDHAM married at Providence KAN Midlands. (photo) DEATHS:-BENGTSON nee JOYCE Jean Mary + 20 Jan 2013 x Michael. Will be missed by brothers,sisters and in-laws. ; Funeral on 24 Jan 2013 at St Michaels Catholic Church Redhill at 2pm. Proceeding to Redhill Cemetery. BROWN Bob 8 April 1921 ---21 Jan 2013. Father of Kenneth, Robyn, Andrew, Sheryl, Celeste and Mari. Father-in-law of Rona , Ivan, Rene, Charles and Werner. Grandfather to Kieran, Gareth, Kaye-Leigh, Rhyne, Kerri-Lyn, Melissa, Dieter, Mark, Phillip and Chrismari. Great-grandfather of Oskar and Liam. Memorial Service .For Information contact 082 554 5460. DOVES 0860025500 BROWNLEE Shirley Lavina 27 Sept 1932 ----20 Jan 2013. Wife , mother and gran of Noel, Guy, Wendy, Tracy, Dave, Greg, Mark, Taryn, Brian, Tamerin, Toby, Kim, Stacy, Ryan and the families. DOVES 0825500. CLIFFORD Doris 17 Jan 2013 x + Bob CLIFFORD. Mother of Robert and Michael. Mother-in-law of Helen and Barbara. Grandmother to Mark, Warren and Christine, Greg and Michelle, Heidi and Abri, Jeff and Diane. Great-grandmother to Gabrielle, Logan and Sebastian. Wake at The Blue Zoo , Mitchell Park on 26 Jan 2013 from 11am. Private family Ceremony on Sunday for family. DOVES 08625500. COURT Margaret Mary 19 Dec 1930 -----21 Jan 2013 x + Neville. Mother to Diane and + Jackie. Mother-in-law of Eric and James. Grandmother to Taryn, Jodie , Ross and Spike. Memorial at Richmond Presbyterian Church on 25 Jan 2013 at 10am .OAKLEGH Funeral Home 033 3426116. DAVIES nee ELLIOTT Lynette Edith 1 June 1940-----20 Jan 2013. Mother of Tiss, Kath, Margie and John.; Sister and aunt of Jen, Clare , Matt, Allison and Mark. Memorial at St Olav's Church, Musgrave on 24 Jan 2013 at 12 midday. TEL:- 083 3063450. DEE LIGHT24 Sept 1949 --- + 21 Jan 2013.Soulmate of Mike. Missed by her family. Mom of Les, Sue, Josh and Jess.; EVANS Sybil Leonora Elizabeth 15 Oct 1914 ----17 Jan 2013. Aunt of Lorna and Elaine and families. Funeral at Stellawood Chapel Umbilo on 25 Jan 2013 at 2pm. DOVES 0860025500. GARRETT Maureen + 17 Jan 2013 x John for 53 years. Mother of Jen, Rose, Lynn and Ade. HALLOTT Max . Passed away in Vancouver x + Moira. Father of Patrick, Joan and Lynn. Condolences from SYDNEY and Pam BRADSHAW family. JONSSON Aubrey Hugh. Funeral at Church of Ascention Church on 25 Jan 2013 at 10:30am. OAKLEIGH 033 3426116. KEMP Sue 13 Aug 1918 -----18 Jan 2013. & KEMP Phillip(Dutchy). Our Gran and Uncle of Linda, Leeann, Justin and Tristan. ;Memorial at City Hill Church Hillcrest on 25 Jan 2013 at 2pm. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959. KEPKO Sylvia Delyse 4 Nov 1939 ------20 Jan 2013 x Frank. Mother of Delyse, Donna , Ferenc and Sean. Grandmother of Candice, Darren and Jordyn. Sister of Anne LETTY Jolyon Drue x Diana . Father, father-in -law and grampy. Funeral at St John the Baptist Anglican Church Pinetown on 25 Jan 2013 at 14h00. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959. MCCANN Brian John 15 June 1946 -----20 Jan 2013. Father , brother and uncle. Now in Tir na nOg.; Now in T r na n g.; Memorial for close friends and family on 24 Jan 2013. "Wake" in celebration at Alladin's Cave (Teleki's) from 18:00 on 24 Jan 2013. MORIARTY Gregory Aka (Shoo-Shoo) 25 March 1954 ----16 Jan 2013. Funeral at Holy Family Parish Newlands East at 09:30am on 26 Jan 2013. DOVES 0860025500. NAIDOO Preshnee 27 Feb 1995 ----10 Jan 2013 . Misses by Mum, Devan, Devash as well as family. 16th Day Memorial Service on 24 Jan 2013 at New West Seconday School Hall Newlands West.Supper at 17h00 and 18h45. Service at 19h00. NEWTON-BARKER Clement Joseph 16 April 1934 ----18 Jan 2013 x Bronwen NEWTON-PARKER nee De-PALO. Funeral on 25 Jan 2013 at Our Lady Of The Holy Rosary , Berea Rd. Mass at 10h00 proceeding to Stellawood Cemetery. PACKETT Keith + 21 Jan 2013 in Pietermaritzburg. Father of Vanessa and Samantha. Brother and Grandfather. TEL:- Vanessa at 082 5630586 or > vanessa@archer.org.za <. RANDALL Denise 16 July 1918 -----20 Jan 2013. Mother of Bev, Malcolm Cherie and Merrill. Grandmother and great-grandmother. Memorial at Eden Gardens Marriott Rd on 24 Jan 2013 at 10am. REHMAN Eric Colin (Bobby's Coach Works) x Yvonne. Father of Allen, Colin, Christopher, Desiree, Malcolm, Caren and Nicolette. Father-in-law, grand and great-grandfather. Funeral at Christ The King Parish Wentworth at 12h00 on 24 Jan 2013. Cremation Private. SANDER George Edward. + 21 Jan 2013 x Shela. Father, grandfather ,great-grandfather. STEYN Catherine (Kay). Farewell Kay, Mom and Gran. From Jerry, Pam. The "J" Babes , Mike and Megz. DOVES 0860025500. SUKHRAJ Rani. Funeral on 24 Jan 2013 at 11 am at the Rock Christian Church Umhlanga Rocks Dr. Proceeding to Redhill Cemetery at 12h30. SYKES Neil William 19 April 1944 --+ 22 Jan 2013 x Caryl. Father to Robyn (Athol, Scharlette and Bump) and Jenni WALTHEW Olga + 20 Jan 2013. Mother of Edward, Dennis , Elizabeth, Mark Craig and Families. Requiem Mass at Our Lady Of Lourdes Catholic Church Westville on 25 Jan 2013 at 10:30am. OAKLEIGH 031 2059959. ZEILER Dries 14 March 1930 -----20 Jan 2013 x Jenny. Father, father-in-law, grand and great-grandfather. Funeral at DOVES Chapel Greyville on 24 Jan 2013 at 11h00. MEMORIAM.:- MOMSEN David John 1 June 1953 ----19 Jan 2012 x Janette. Father of Chantel, Jessica , Nialle. Grandfather of Chenel and Rheese. SAMUEL James & Mary Agnes. Parents of Amy, Esme and Trevor. SYMINGTON Liam 20 April 1965 ---23 Jan 2012. Father of California, Micayla and Riley. Love from Kelly. WILSON Warren 2 Jan 1988 ---23 Jan 2006 Remembered by Mom, Dad and lee; Also from Granny Sheila and Uncle Donald. Gegroet uit snikhete Durban Rita Quebbemann * STEENKAMP.

Hallo Antoinette, Ek glo DNA toetse sal nie kan help nie. Slegs manlike afstammelinge van John Murray of sy manlike voorouers sal sy Y-DNA dra, en selfs al kon jy dit analiseer sou dit jou steeds niks persoonlik oor John Murray vertel nie. As jy sy details kon uitvind (miskien via 'n sterftekennis?) en van sy nageslag sou kon opspoor en hulle sou enigsins weet van sy buite-egtelike kind in 1923, sal hulle dalk bereid wees om jou meer van hom te vertel. Sjoe, dis moeilik. Ek hoop jy kom op meer informasie af. Groete, Martina Louw.

Sterfgevalle MULLER, Mike. +Sondag 20 Januarie 2013. Vrou, seun, ouers, broer, suster, ouma. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 25 Januarie 2013 11:00 NG Kerk Uitenhage-Noord, Moselstraat. (Die Burger O-Kaap 24/01/2013) Miemie Gardiner ALGOA Begrafnisdienste 041 363 4874 PETZER, Leonard Raymond. *06/09/1930. +Maandag 21 Januarie 2013 op Humansdorp. Kinders, kleinkinders. Begrafnisdiens Vrydag 25 Januarie 2013 11:00 Volle Evangelie Kerk, Kameeldoringstraat, Jeffreysbaai. Jeffreysbaai munisipale-begraafplaas. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24/01/2013) Bokkie Els AVBOB Humansdorp 042 291 1230 WAIT, Hendrik Cornelius Van der Watt. *20/01/1929. +Maandag 21 Januarie 2013. Geliefde eggenoot, pa, oupa, oom. Gedenkdiens Saterdag 26 Januarie 2013 12:00 NG Kerk Newtonpark-gemeente, Mowbraystraat, P.E. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 24/01/2013) Hester Marx Loerie

BOSMAN; Berton John, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: NG Kerk Pretoria-Oos, h v Lynnwood- en Kurkness Straat, 25/01/2013, 12:00. (Beeld - 24/01/2013) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Wes, 012-327-3788. BRUCE; Vicky + 18/01/2013. Beloved mother of Jared and Jon-Daniel Sadie, daughter of Tersia and Danie BURGER, sister and friend. (Beeld - 24/01/2013) Collinge & Co Begrafnisdienste, Johannesburg, 011-465-3288. DE KLERK; Valerie Lorna, in lewe van Krugersdorp, Gauteng provinsie. Verassingsdiens: St Peter's Anglican Church, 24/01/2013, 11:00. (Beeld - 24/01/2013) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste Pretoria / Krugersdorp, 011-953-3808. PUTTER; Jacomina Christina Johanna, in lewe van Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: AGS Kerk Pretoria-Noord, 25/01/2013, 13:00. (Beeld - 24/01/2013) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269. RUTOWITZ; Reiben + Pretoria, 20/01/2013. Hy laat sy susters Ida en Beckey, broer Isaac en skoonsuster Allison agter. Hy was 'n leidende figuur in die Graanbedryf in Suid Afrika en ook Burgerlike sake in Pretoria. Private Verassing. (Beeld - 23, 24/01/2013) Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie. [Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

Dankie vir die inligting, ek het so gedink. Ongelukkig is die naam so "common" dat dit amper ontmoontlik sou wees om sy sterftekennis in die hande te kry want ek weet niks van hom nie. Antoinette -----Original Message----- From: buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martina Louw Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:58 PM To: buitenposten@rootsweb.com Subject: [BP] My unknown grandfather and DNA testing Hallo Antoinette, Ek glo DNA toetse sal nie kan help nie. Slegs manlike afstammelinge van John Murray of sy manlike voorouers sal sy Y-DNA dra, en selfs al kon jy dit analiseer sou dit jou steeds niks persoonlik oor John Murray vertel nie. As jy sy details kon uitvind (miskien via 'n sterftekennis?) en van sy nageslag sou kon opspoor en hulle sou enigsins weet van sy buite-egtelike kind in 1923, sal hulle dalk bereid wees om jou meer van hom te vertel. Sjoe, dis moeilik. Ek hoop jy kom op meer informasie af. Groete, Martina Louw. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUITENPOSTEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ek het 'n gesin in my Klein Karoo Families-databasis - die dogter van die gesin is met haar ma se jongste broer (m.a.w haar oom) getroud (middel 1800's)!! Dit beteken haar grootouers aan moederskant is ook haar skoonouers en haar eie ma is dan ook haar skoonsuster! Haar kinders is dus die kleinkinders van haar grootouers (deur die vader) en die agterkleinkinders van haar grootouers deur haar. En nog erger - haar ma is haar man se suster en ook sy skoonma! Kon so 'n huwelik wettig wees - ek wonder of die kinders normaal was? Dit klink nie vir my lekker nie. Dit laat my dink aan die grap wat die rondte doen oor familieverbintenisse met so 'n ondertrouery (iemand het dit een keer op SAGen geplaas), maar hierdie is sowaar erger. Alta le Roux Le Roux Dorpshuis/Townhouse Museum Hoogstraat 146 High Street OUDTSHOORN 6625 Tel.: 044 272 3676 E-pos: lerdorpshuis@mweb.co.za

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Monday, May 8, 1989 BIRTHS. BAIN. – To Bruce and Margaret, a daughter Tamatha Ann, born Friday morning May 5, 1989 at Sandford Maternity. BARNETT. – To John and Gail (nee RENARD), a son, Miles John, brother for Laura, on Thursday, May 4, 1989 at Sandton Clinic, Johannesburg. ENGAGEMENTS. GILES. – ATTWELL. Mike and Jill are pleased to announce the engagement in Cape Town of their only daughter Carole, to Wayne, son of Buddy and Lorna of Bedfordview. WIGGAN. – MILES. Eileen (widow of the late Bryan MILES) has great pleasure in announcing the engagement of her daughter Diane, to Andrew, only son of Bill and Daphne WIGGAN of Nelspruit. MARRIAGES. MACRAE. – STUBBS. Shelly and Chris are happy to announce their marriage in Grahamstown on May 6, 1989. MEY. – HEATHFIELD. Dudley and Gloria HEATHFIELD have great pleasure in announcing the marriage of their eldest daughter Celeste to Michael second son of Lovell and Ruth MEY at Mater Dei Church on Saturday, April 29, 1989. WEDDING ANNIVERSARIES. ENDLEY. – ROBINSON. Gordon and Adelé married on May 7, 1949. Congratulations on your 40th Anniversary. Love Judy, Geoff, Rory and Candice. DEATHS. BERRY. – Percy, husband of Winnie and father of Dave and Keith, passed away on Saturday, May 6, 1989. Memorial service at Hill Presbyterian Church, today (Monday), May 8, at 3 pm. Cremation private. EDMUNDS. – Arthur John, aged 59,passed away on Saturday, May 6, 1989. Husband of Winnifred and father of Stephan and Matthew. Remembered by his stepchildren Edward, Frances, Kim and Lea. JERLING. – Peter, passed away on Thursday, May 4, 1989. Mourned by your fiancé Jeanette, Christelle and Mornay. LACHENICHT. – Wilfred Hardy, husband of Lorraine, father of Reneé and Colin, father-in-law of Angus and Nicola, passed away on Thursday, May 4, 1989. MCGRATH. – Kyle Patrick, son of Christopher and Patricia (nee DORAN),born and died on Wednesday, May 3, 1989. POHL. – Nechama, Mourned by husband Morris, children Moriya, Maxie, grandson Jacques, sister-in-law Zelda, Rose and families. PRICE. – Ellen (nee PACKIE), passed away at Livingston Hospital on Saturday, May 6, 1989. Remembered by her daughters Irene and Minnie and son Bernie. PRICE. – Prinda, mother of Bernard, Maureen and Des; aunt of Eileen, Jack and family, passed away. ROSE. – Vic. Remembered by Peggy, Mechelle, Wendy and John; Henny, Linda and Kids. STRYDOM. – Loraine. Remembered by Sylvia and Gaye. WINK. – Theo, passed away at the Provincial Hospital, Uitenhage, on Saturday, May 6, 1989. Husband of Priscilla, father of Michael and Christo. Memorial service at Kanonheuwel Dutch Reformed Church, today (Monday), May 8, at 3 pm. Private cremation. FUNERAL NOTICES. RICHARDS. – Lilian, passed away on May 6, 1989, aged 93 years. Remembered by Alfred and Murial (Canada), Hadley and Jean, Bernard and Daphney and their families. Memorial service will be held today (Monday) May 5, at 3 pm at the Laubscher Park Red Cross Home Chapel, Walmer. Cremation private. ROSE. – Vic, passed away on May 6, 1989. Father of Maureen and Gerrie, Patsy, Jenny and Barry, grandfather of Liesel and Melissa. A memorial service will be held at Commemoration Church, Grahamstown, tomorrow (Tuesday), May 9, 1989, at 11 am. “At the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember him.” STRYDOM. – Loraine, passed away on Wednesday, May 3, 1989. The cremation service will take place from the Baptist Church, Frank Street, Newton Park, tomorrow (Tuesday) May 3, 1989, at 10 am. Private cremation. YORKE. – Esmé, passed away on Wednesday, May 3, 1989. Cremation service will take place today (Monday), May 8, at 10 am, from the Methodist Church, Newton Park. Private cremation. IN MEMORIAM. RUMSEY. – Eric, passed away May 8, 1988. Remembered by Daphne, Neil and family. TONELLI. – Alfonso, husband of Donna, father of Itala and Nonno of Francesco, passed away May 8, 1986. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

As jy my kans gee sal ek vir jou probeer kyk. Ek het n Jane Renison gebore 9.5.1888 in Jansenville Janet Melville -----Original Message----- From: buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Accounts IBF Sent: 23 January 2013 03:40 PM To: buitenposten@rootsweb.com Subject: [BP] Hendrik Jacobus Moolman - wie was sy ouers? Middag Kan iemand help met die doopregisters van Hankey, Loerie, Humansdorp areas? Ek soek my oupa se ouers, sy naam was Hendrik Jacobus Moolman geb. 30 August 1891 (Hankey, Loerie omgewing), gesterf 10 January 1966 in PE. So vêr ek weet was hy 'n skaapboer (of werker) totdat hy in Port Elizabeth kom woon het. Hy was met Jane Renison getroud, sy was in Jansenville gedoop maar het later in of naby Aberdeen gewoon. Name van sy broers(?) is Petrus Johannes Moolman geb. 20/4/1879, Wessel Johannes Moolman geb. 4 Okt 1882. Baie dankie Antoinette Saunders (voorheen Moolman) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUITENPOSTEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Middag Kan iemand help met die doopregisters van Hankey, Loerie, Humansdorp areas? Ek soek my oupa se ouers, sy naam was Hendrik Jacobus Moolman geb. 30 August 1891 (Hankey, Loerie omgewing), gesterf 10 January 1966 in PE. So vêr ek weet was hy 'n skaapboer (of werker) totdat hy in Port Elizabeth kom woon het. Hy was met Jane Renison getroud, sy was in Jansenville gedoop maar het later in of naby Aberdeen gewoon. Name van sy broers(?) is Petrus Johannes Moolman geb. 20/4/1879, Wessel Johannes Moolman geb. 4 Okt 1882. Baie dankie Antoinette Saunders (voorheen Moolman)

Hi Elmien (Verskoon die Engels maar ek sal nooit dit in Afrikaans kan verduidelik nie!) On the birth of my mother in Cape Town in 1923, the name of her father was given on her birth certificate but her parents were unmarried. I have traced her baptism certificate on LDS and the father's name is also given. Nothing further is known about her father as he played no part in her life at all. The interesting thing is that the address given on the baptism certificate is an address of a foster home where she was cared for; I only discovered this later when I found "protection of infants" files in the Cape Archives. Fortunately, she did go back to her mother when she was about 15 months old (hurray!) My grandmother would not speak about this man (my "unknown" grandfather) when questioned by my mother. We therefore have no clue as to where he came from. When I spoke to a nephew of my grandmother many, many years later once I became interested in genealogy, he said he thought the man in question came from Uniondale or Graaff Reinet. My grandmother's family originally came from Oudtshoorn so this could be true. My grandmother's older relatives (nephews and nieces) have passed away a long time ago; their children don't even know there is a mystery. Now the question : If (and it's a big if), I would like to try and find out more about my grandfather's line through DNA testing, is there any way of doing it as for obvious reasons, we do not know of any male descendants/relatives of this man. (my mother was the only child my grandmother had from him) My mother always had a burning desire to know more about her father but due to her mother blocking all her enquiries she never found out more. My regret is that I didn't take an interest much earlier as perhaps we could have found out something for her. As an only child, she always wondered if she could have had half brothers or sisters as she was very family orientated. The name of the man is John Murray. Antoinette -----Original Message----- From: buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:buitenposten-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elmien Wood Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:50 AM To: SAGenealogie; Buitenposten Subject: [BP] "Non-paternity event" Wetenskaplik is ’n voorval van nie-vaderskap, slegs dit: êrens in die geslagsregister is die persoon wat as vader aangedui word, nie die biologiese vader nie. Toe die voorval plaasgevind het was minstens die ma bewus daarvan of dalk albei ouers, maar in die loop van die geskiedenis het daardie inligting verlore geraak. Die persoon wat die familienaam dra het deel geword van die oorgedraagde stories, die waardes en die liefde van die familie. Dit is wel baie interessant om die Y-DNA van ’n familie te toets, want dan kan die daardie familie aan persone van die stamland gekoppel word. Daar sal gewoonlik baie min redes wees om die moederskap te betwis, behalwe in gevalle waar ’n kind in die hospitaal omgeruil is. Persoonlik sou ek nie pa-seun toetse doen nie, maar wel neefs, kleinneefs en agterkleinneefs. As daar dan’n nie-vaderskap voorval aangedui word, sou dit tot 1745 teruggevoer kon word. Groete Elmien ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUITENPOSTEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sterfgevalle UNGERER, Maria Magdalena. +Maandag 21 Januarie 2013. Diens Donderdag 24 Januarie 2013 10:00 AP Kerk, Uitenhage. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23/01/2013) Tammy du Pisanie DOVES Uitenhage 041 992 1349 VERMAAK, Ignatius Wilhelm (Mannetjie). +Sat. 19 Januarie 2013. Ons groet 'n pa, broer, oupa. Diens Donderdag 24 Januarie 2013 11:00 NG kerk Eendrag-gemeente, Despatch. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 23/01/2013) Nosipho Mgengo AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066 Hester Marx Loerie

Wetenskaplik is ’n voorval van nie-vaderskap, slegs dit: êrens in die geslagsregister is die persoon wat as vader aangedui word, nie die biologiese vader nie. Toe die voorval plaasgevind het was minstens die ma bewus daarvan of dalk albei ouers, maar in die loop van die geskiedenis het daardie inligting verlore geraak. Die persoon wat die familienaam dra het deel geword van die oorgedraagde stories, die waardes en die liefde van die familie. Dit is wel baie interessant om die Y-DNA van ’n familie te toets, want dan kan die daardie familie aan persone van die stamland gekoppel word. Daar sal gewoonlik baie min redes wees om die moederskap te betwis, behalwe in gevalle waar ’n kind in die hospitaal omgeruil is. Persoonlik sou ek nie pa-seun toetse doen nie, maar wel neefs, kleinneefs en agterkleinneefs. As daar dan’n nie-vaderskap voorval aangedui word, sou dit tot 1745 teruggevoer kon word. Groete Elmien

BOSMAN; {Dr} Christopher + 09/01/2013. Gedenkdiens: St. James Presbiteriaans Kerk, Oxfordweg 3, Bedford Gardens, Bedfordview, Johannesburg, 25/01/2013. (Beeld – 23/01/2013) BRINK; Martha Magrietha, in lewe van Pretoria. Verassingsdiens: AGS Pretoria-Noord, 24/01/2013, 10:00. (Beeld – 23/01/2013) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269. RUTOWITZ; Reiben + Pretoria, 20/01/2013. Hy laat sy susters Ida en Beckey, broer Isaac en skoonsuster Allison agter. Hy was ‘n leidende figuur in die Graanbedryf in Suid Afrika en ook Burgerlike sake in Pretoria. Private Verassing. (Beeld – 23/01/2013) WOLMARANS; Louis. Ons bid Petrus, sy ouers en familie die troosryke teenwoordigheid van die Here toe van Hein VAN DER WALT en personeel van COFESA waar hy gewerk het. Teraardbestelling: Catharina’s, 25° 45.834’ S en 27° 39.252’E, op die Plaas Groenkloof, Mooinooi, Noordwes provinsie, 26/01/2013, 12:00. [Foto met berig]. (Beeld – 23/01/2013) Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie. [Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Thursday, May 4, 1989 Births. CLARKE. – To Paul and Isobel, a son Jonathan Richard, on Sunday, April 30, 1989 at St George’s. COLEMAN. – To John and Adele (nee BELDON), a daughter born Saturday, May 1, 1989 at Sandford. A sister for Neville. MACKLIN. – To Michael and Susan, a daughter Ruth Elizabeth, sister to Ryan and Matthew, born on Monday, May 1, 1989 at Sandford. ENGAGEMENTS. LUNNON. – SOUTHWOOD. Ed and Pera are happy to announce their engagement. DEATHS. BERRY. – Clive Duncan, passed away Tuesday, May 2, 1989. Missed by his wife Orpa, sons Rodney and Quinton; son Tyrone, Jenny and grandchildren; Ross and Dixie SCANLEN and children. FOUCHE. – Stan, husband of Olga, passed away on Tuesday, May 2, 1989. Mourned by Olga, Louis, Leoné and Robert. KOEN. – Gesina (Sienie), passed away on Sunday, April 30, 1989. Missed by Ernest and Joan; Beatrice and Barney. ROBERTSON. – Grace, passed away on Tuesday, May 2, 1989. Mother of Billy and Doreen; Adriaan and Lorna, grandmother of Merlene and Colin; you children Billy, Peggy, Dennis, Maureen, Aiden and Trevor; mother of Peggy, granny of Diane and Nick, Graham and Hilary, Gail and James, great-granny of Ché, Morné and Luzanne; Zelda and André and granddaughter Tamarin; daughter Maureen and Edward and grandchildren Zelda and Grace. STONE. – Leslie Spencer, passed away May 1, 1989. Missed by his wife Mavis, Jack, Raymond, Phrosne and Dennis RIGGS, Phillip and Joy FROST and families. STROEBEL. – Louis, passed away tragically on Saturday, April 29, 1989. Husband of Isabel, father of Mariloo. Missed by the Management and Staff of Sten Products, Port Elizabeth. FUNERAL NOTICES. BERRY. – Clive Duncan, passed away Tuesday, May 2, 1989, at the age of 62. The funeral service will take place at the Crematorium Chapel, Victoria Park, tomorrow (Friday), May 5, 1989, at 10 am. BRADFIELD. – Yelwa Gladys (nee LONG), wife of Keith and mother of Marlyn, Eleanor and Robert, passed away at Montague on Saturday, April 29, 1989. A funeral service will be held today (Thursday) at Seven Fountains, May 4 at 11am. CHETTY. – MINNEAMAL (Akka), mother of Malia, passed away on Tuesday, May 2, 1989. Remembered by daughter-in-law Vedas, grandchildren Pushpa, Saroj, Lagon, Sunderesan, Shun and Agoram. The funeral service will leave from 6 Watsonia Street, Malabar at 2 pm on Sunday, May 7, 1989. KOTZE. – Pieter Gabriel Jacobus, passed away on Sunday, April 30, 1989. The cremation service will take place from the D.R. Church, Grasvoelkop, Cotswold, tomorrow (Friday), May 5, at 12.30 pm. Cremation private. MEYBURGH. – Daniel Jacob, passed away on Tuesday, May 2, 1989, Missed by his wife Gertie, son Glen, daughters Mandie and Francina, family and friends. The cremation service will be held at St Cuthbert’s Presbyterian Church, 50 Nile Road, Perridgevale, today (Friday), May 5, at 9 am. Cremation private. ROBERTSON. – Grace. The funeral service will take place at 10 am on Saturday, May 6, 1989 at St Mark’s Berean Church, Neville Street, Westering. Cremation private. STONE. – Leslie Spencer. The funeral service will take place tomorrow (Friday), May 5, 1989 at 11 am at St Saviour’s Church, First Avenue, Walmer. Cremation private. IN MEMORIAM. DE RIDDER. – Hendrik (Hennie), passed away May 4, 1985. Remembered by his wife Yvonne and Mom and Dad DILLON. DES FOUNTAIN. – Arthur. Missed by Wesley, Joan, Rowan and Vanessa. FAWCETT. - Norman Graham, passed away May 4, 1985. Remembered by your wife Eve. LAINE. – John, passed away May 2, 1988. Remembered by Reagan, Estelle, David, Judy, Anthony and girls. SAMPSON. – Gerard, passed away May 4, 1987. Remembered by wife Gail and Craig; Derick and Marilyn. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Hallo Vriende, Wessel Hendrik LOURENS 20 Mei 1898 + 4 Sept 1957 x 4 Jun 1923 in Piet Retief met Aletha Margaretha SWANEPOEL 2Mei 1907 + 1 Aug 1992 Se oudste seun Petrus LOURENS 5 Dec 1924 + 25 Aug 2009 x Alexandra Susanna Maria ROBERTS 15 Mei 1929 + 28 Jan 2007 se dogter ( 2de kind) Petronella Catharina LOURENS x Johan Petrus KOEKEMOER se seun Jan Willem Jacobus x Katharina Johanna LOMBARD se 2de baba is gebore Lumay * 31 Dec 2012 . 'n Sussie vir Adelaide. Dis nou my ma se oudste Broer . 1st van 15 kinders gewees. Van die 15 kinders lewe nog 6 . Een van die broers het net spoorloos verdwyn. Sover ons weet lewe hy nog. Groete uit sonskyn Durban Rita QUEBBEMANN gebore STEENKAMP. Ouma en Oupa aan ma se kant LOURENS x SWANEPOEL. Pa se Kant: STEENKAMP x SCHEEPERS. Skoondogter BOTHA . Grootouers SWANEPOEL x BOTHA. Die 2 SWANEPOEL's was broers in 1721.

BURGER; Vicky + 18/01/2013. Beloved mother of Jared and Jon-Daniel Sadie, daughter of Tersia and Danie BURGER. (Beeld - 22/01/2013) Collinge & Co Begrafnisdienste, Johannesburg, 011-465-3288. FOURIE; Ane van Witfield. Baie geluk met jou verjaarsdag, 13 jaar op 13/01/2013. Foto met berig. (Beeld - 22/01/2013) LABUSCHAGNE; Elizabeth Adriana, in lewe van Aandasig, Pretoria. Begrafnisdiens: Bentleys Country Lodge, 23/01/2013, 09:30 # Heatherdale Begraafplaas, Britsweg, Pretoria-Noord. (Beeld - 22/01/2013) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269. VISSER; Jurgens Johannes Jacobus, in lewe van Pretoria. Roudiens: Pro-Evangeliese Woordbediening, 23/01/2013, 13:00. Private Verassing. (Beeld - 22/01/2013) AVBOB Begrafnisdienste, Pretoria-Noord, 012-565-4269. Groete, Fanie Blignaut (Blikkies), Vanderbijlpark, Gauteng provinsie. [Blignaut x Laubscher; Els x Blignaut; Pretorius x Bloem; Kruger x Pretorius.] [Bouwer x Meyer; Bouwer x Wild; Pretorius x v/d Merwe; Pretorius x Potgieter; Potgieter x Barkhuizen]

Sterfgevalle GRIESEL, Isie Judith Susanna. 81 jaar. +Saterdag 19 Januarie 2013 op Uitenhage. Kinders, kleinkinders. Gedenkdiens Woensdag 23 Januarie 2013 11:00 NG Kerk Eendrag, Despatch. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/01/2013) Oos-Kaap Begrafnisdienste 041 992 5704 VAN NIEKERK, Dirk Petrus. *03/06/1934. +Donderdag 17 Januarie 2013 op Humansdorp. Eggenote, kinders, kleinkinders. Dankdiens Dinsdag 22 Januarie 2013 10:00 Ons Tuiste-saal, Humansdorp. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 22/01/2013) Bokkie Els AVBOB Humansdorp 042 291 1230 Hester Marx Loerie

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Tuesday, May 2, 1989 BIRTHS. DANDERS. – To Allin and Lauren (nee STROUD), a 6lb 15 oz son at St George’s on Sunday, April 30, 1989. DEATHS. CLARK. – Cynthia Mary Louise, passed away on April 29. Wife of George. Missed by your children Donald, Richard, Kenneth, Susan, Linda and families. DEASON. – Eldred, passed away on Saturday, April 29, 1989, at the age of 47, brother of Joyce and Vernon, uncle of Vernon of Durban, Charmaine and Danie. Beloved of Lois, Melissa, Liesel and Sharon; brother of Joan, uncle of Reinhard and Lynette; son of Don and the late Ann, brother of Joan, Joyce and Brian, passed away at the Provincial Hospital on Saturday, April 29, 1989. DU PREEZ. – Frances, passed away on April 28, 1989 at Huis Genot. Missed by Ricky; Patsy and Colin. KOTZE. – Pieter, passed away on Sunday, April 30, 1989. Husband of Eleanor, father of John and Elaine, grandfather of Charlene, Lisa and Sally. NEL. – Louise, passed away tragically on Saturday, April 29, 1989. Wife of Fanie and mother of Marlene, Fanie and Lucy, and Wynand. Remembered by Ronnie, Fay, Kenneth and Glynnis. FUNERAL NOTICES. BOOKER. – Hugh Albert. The service will be held at Westering Methodist Church, Paapenkuil Street, today (Tuesday), May 2, 1989, at 2.30 pm. Cremation private. CLARK. – Cynthia Mary Louise of Chalmers Road, Humewood. A memorial service will be held at 11 am today( Tuesday), May 2, 1989, at Humewood Methodist Church. NEL. – Louise. The funeral service will take place on Wednesday, May 3, 1989 at 2 pm, from the Apostolic Church, Kabega Park. SLABBERT. – Pieter Willem Schalk, passed away Thursday, April 27, 1989. The service will take place at the D.R. Church, Algoa Park North, Chestnut Street, today (Tuesday), May 2, at 2 pm. Thence to Forest Hill Cemetery. IN MEMORIAM. MORGAN. – Murray Keith. Remembered by Mom, Dad, Peter and Kathy. PIETERSE. – Aubrey, passed away May 2, 1986. Remembered by Carol, Gerald, Michele, Melanie and Christopher; Rod, Sharon and the boys; wife Phyllis; Bonnie, Brian, Tim and Rochelle. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Sterfgevalle WILKINSON, Tokkie. +Maandag 14 Januarie 2013. Haar kinders, kleinkinders. Roudiens Woensdag 23 Januarie 2013 11:00 AGS Kensington Gemeente, Harrowerweg. Verassing privaat. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 21/01/2013) Alfred Jones AVBOB Port Elizabeth 041 484 2731 Hester Marx Loerie

Sterfgevalle LOTTER (STROEBEL), Anetta Petronella. +Dinsdag 15 Januarie 2013. 'n Eggenote, moeder en ouma - Johan, Jeanette, Chanelle, Jaco, Jacques, Paul en kleinkinders Justine en Brain. Diens Maandag 21 Januarie 2013 11:00 NG Kerk Noord. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19/01/2013) Zola Mhlahlo AVBOB Uitenhage 041 922 8066 OOSTHUYSEN, Isak Johannes (Hannes). *14/12/1938. +Woensdag 16 Januarie 2013 na kort siekbed. Iloreez & Mariette, Anthony, Tania & Louise, Francois, Heidi & Hannah-Mari. Begrafnis Dinsdag 22 Januarie 2013 11:00 Alexandria NG Kerk. (Die Burger O-Kaap 19/01/2013) Navrae: moosthuysen@gmail.com Sel. Mariette 082 575 7579 STEVENS, Bernadene (Bernie). +Woensdag 16 Januarie 2013. Eggenoot KP, dogters Cindy en Hayleigh, kleinkinders. Diens Woensdag 23 Januarie 2013 11:00 Pearsonstraat Congregational Kerk, Sentraal. (Die Burger O-Kaap 19/01/2013) Heola, First Avenue Funeral Home 041 581 5028 In Memoriam JONCK, George. Die 20ste Januarie sal dit een jaar wees dat ons moes afskeid neem. Eggenote Naomi, kinders en kleinkinders. (Die Burger Oos-Kaap 19/01/2013) Hester Marx Loerie