<<In terms of the FRANKLINs, my stepfather's FRANKLINs were in Sulgrave, Greatworth and surrounding areas of Northants but I have a feeling that the ones that were in Thornborough were connected to the Northants lot. I haven't proved it yet, but I'd like to.>> The Thornborough Franklins might have been of local origin. There were Franklins living in Great Horwood, just next door, throughout the medieval period. They were there as early as 1279, and still there in the early 16C, though by then they were starting to move out to neighbouring parishes. There were also Shoulers in Great Horwood - Robert Shoveler als Showler, who lived there from 1466 until his death in 1488, and a Thomas Showler or Shouler, who appeared in 1589 and was still there in the early years of the 17th century. Oddly enough Robert Showler's arrival in 1466 was occasioned by his having married a Franklin heiress. Matt Tompkins Blaston, Leics

Thanks for this interesting response Matt. It's partly because the Bucks FRANKLINs go way back that I think they MAY (very much stressed) be connected to the Northants ones. Those of us in a little FRANKLIN-hunting group are trying to find out where the Greatworth FRANKLINs came from because there were none there before 1700ish. We've looked at early F's over a very wide area of Northants and Oxon as well as Bucks but not found the ones that went to Greatworth. Generally, though we have found a good number of connections between the Thornborough, Great Horwood, Whaddon, Nash area and Sulgrave, Greatworth, etc. so that's why we keep watch over Bucks as well as Northants FRANKLINs, whether early or late. As you seem very knowledgeable historically, I wonder if you know anything about links of Northants and Oxfordshire PARGITERs (PARGETERs) with Bucks. I'll have to go back to an old file to lay fingers on the specific refs I have from A2A and so forth.. But I seem to remember a land deal between Sir William PARGITER of Greatworth and the wealthy family in Whaddon (was it LOWNDES then?) - date about 1780 I think. And Rev Robert PARGETER at Buckingham came, I believe, from Tadmarton? Any thoughts or suggestions would be most welcome. Celia Renshaw In Chesterfield UK -----Original Message----- From: Tompkins, M.L. [mailto:mllt1@leicester.ac.uk] Sent: 16 February 2005 19:34 To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BKM] Martha (Mary) Nichols of Padbury <<In terms of the FRANKLINs, my stepfather's FRANKLINs were in Sulgrave, Greatworth and surrounding areas of Northants but I have a feeling that the ones that were in Thornborough were connected to the Northants lot. I haven't proved it yet, but I'd like to.>> The Thornborough Franklins might have been of local origin. There were Franklins living in Great Horwood, just next door, throughout the medieval period. They were there as early as 1279, and still there in the early 16C, though by then they were starting to move out to neighbouring parishes. There were also Shoulers in Great Horwood - Robert Shoveler als Showler, who lived there from 1466 until his death in 1488, and a Thomas Showler or Shouler, who appeared in 1589 and was still there in the early years of the 17th century. Oddly enough Robert Showler's arrival in 1466 was occasioned by his having married a Franklin heiress. Matt Tompkins Blaston, Leics ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== To search the BUCKS list message archives, go to: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=BUCKS