In message <BAY101-F38B53AAD84AA58B1058044BD4D0@phx.gbl>, Robert Hawes <rdhawes48@hotmail.com> writes >My family immigrated from Buckinghamshire, England to Dorchester, >Massachuttes, USA aboard the ship "Truelove", out of London, in abt. 1630. >His wife was Ann; and they had a daughter, Anne, and a son Obadiah, both >born in England. >My immigrant was Richard Hawes, b. 1580 in Great Missenden, Bucks, England. >He was christened in "Prince, Risborough". His father was Benett Hawes, and >his father was Richard Hawes, and his father was Thomas Hawes, b. Abt. 1507, >Allscott, Risborough and d. Abt. 27 May 1554. The date of 1507 sounds like a guess, since there are no parish registers then and normally very few indications of any age. The generations seem to be a little 'short', allowing shortish probable time elapses for 4 generations. (not impossible, but I would be wary). This is in most cases a family of some property, so wills should certainly be able to make the links which the registers do not. >Are Great Missenden, Allscott and Prince Risborough all "villages" in the >same town? Great Missenden is a village on the road from Aylesbury to Amersham. Allscott is a hamlet in Princes Risborough whicvh is a small town about 5=6 miles west of Missenden, and on the road from Aylesbury to High Wycombe. It is puzzling that someone born in Missenden should be baptised in Risborough - it would be abnormal for that period. I think you may be looking at two different persons. > > >Also, do we understand correctly that "Bucks", "Buckingham", and >"Buckinghamshire", are all the same location? Buckinghamshire is the county, abbreviated to Bucks. Buckingham is a town in the north of the county, and LDS have wroingly used Buckingham to indicate the county, which is not helpful. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Worth looking for records of property transactions, as well. Try www.a2a.org.uk, & search the records of the Centre for Buckinghamshire Records. There's a Hawes of Princes Risborough entry dated 1466 . . . Also www.nationalarchives.gov.uk - wills, court cases, etc. Eve McLaughlin wrote: >In message <BAY101-F38B53AAD84AA58B1058044BD4D0@phx.gbl>, Robert Hawes ><rdhawes48@hotmail.com> writes > > >>My family immigrated from Buckinghamshire, England to Dorchester, >>Massachuttes, USA aboard the ship "Truelove", out of London, in abt. 1630. >>His wife was Ann; and they had a daughter, Anne, and a son Obadiah, both >>born in England. >>My immigrant was Richard Hawes, b. 1580 in Great Missenden, Bucks, England. >>He was christened in "Prince, Risborough". His father was Benett Hawes, and >>his father was Richard Hawes, and his father was Thomas Hawes, b. Abt. 1507, >>Allscott, Risborough and d. Abt. 27 May 1554. >> >> >The date of 1507 sounds like a guess, since there are no parish >registers then and normally very few indications of any age. The >generations seem to be a little 'short', allowing shortish probable time >elapses for 4 generations. (not impossible, but I would be wary). > This is in most cases a family of some property, so wills should >certainly be able to make the links which the registers do not. > > > >>Are Great Missenden, Allscott and Prince Risborough all "villages" in the >>same town? >> >> >Great Missenden is a village on the road from Aylesbury to Amersham. >Allscott is a hamlet in Princes Risborough whicvh is a small town about >5=6 miles west of Missenden, and on the road from Aylesbury to High >Wycombe. It is puzzling that someone born in Missenden should be >baptised in Risborough - it would be abnormal for that period. I think >you may be looking at two different persons. > > > >>Also, do we understand correctly that "Bucks", "Buckingham", and >>"Buckinghamshire", are all the same location? >> >> >Buckinghamshire is the county, abbreviated to Bucks. Buckingham is a >town in the north of the county, and LDS have wroingly used Buckingham >to indicate the county, which is not helpful. > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/05