Hi Celia, There is also a SPATCHETT family in England who lived not a million miles from your SPATCHERs. If you consider how the french pronounce "et" an "er" it could be the same. Could SPACHER mean SPEAKER? This name seems to be either french or swiss. As Linda said, there have been others researching some of these names on Genealogy.com so this is probably a good place to try. Another thought is perhaps there is an olde englysh occupation called SPATCHER? All the best, Al -----Original Message----- From: Celia Renshaw [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 12 August 2007 16:40 To: 'Al'; [email protected] Subject: RE: RE. Origin of surname SPATCHER HI Al Yes, you're right, by the 1880s the SPATCHERs had mostly moved to Northampton. It went like this. Nathaniel SPATCHER (originally of Stowe) married Catherine WILKINS of Syresham. After he died (not in Stowe, possibly in London), Catherine married Nathan CARRINGTON, Kings Messenger, who died very wealthy. Catherine lived to a ripe old age but before she died we see some of her first (SPATCHER) family from Stowe turning up in Syresham so I guess her Syresham roots or acquired wealth were helping them out in some way. The SPATCHERs of Stowe who remained in Bucks migrated mostly to Padbury. Some of either the Padbury or Syresham crews moved to Northampton, perhaps both, no doubt for the burgeoning leather/shoe trades, because my Aaron GEORGE born 1792 in Stowe ended up in Northampton as a shoe maker. In truth, I haven't studied the later SPATCHERs much as my family tree connection to the name is that marriage of Nathaniel to Catherine in 1725! Before the industrial revolution, the SPATCHERs were almost entirely in north Bucks and my curiosity is now piqued - why just north Bucks, where and how did the name originate...??? Thanks for responding and thanks also to Linda FH for suggesting the name was originally French. I did think it might be, it has a touch of francais about it. But I'm still curious how Stowe became the (French) SPATCHER home... Cheers, Celia in Chesterfield UK -----Original Message----- From: Al [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 12 August 2007 14:37 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE. Origin of surname SPATCHER Hi Celia, Don't know if this means anything but in 1881 it looks like Northants had the highest concentration of SPATCHERs. See this link:- http://www.spatial-literacy.org/UCLnames/Map.aspx?name=SPATCHER&year=1881&al tyear=1998&country=GB&type=name Al -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 12 August 2007 08:02 To: [email protected] Subject: BUCKS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 196 The default format for the Digest is Plain text. If you prefer to receive your Digest in MIME format, please contact the list administrator. ************************************** Today's Topics: 1. The Padbury Man (Linda & Barry Richardson) 2. Origin of surname SPATCHER (Celia Renshaw) 3. Re: [GLS] Ancestry - Missing Birth Records 1913 (SHEILA REYNOLDS) 4. Re: Origin of surname SPATCHER (LindaFH) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:54:24 +1200 From: "Linda & Barry Richardson" <[email protected]> Subject: [BKM] The Padbury Man To: <[email protected]> Cc: "'M. Hamp'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAM/thYoTBAdJuiLK+5Ky+mHCgAAAEAAAABfvRWNCbVtHtoFhGFfI [email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Hi His Parents were as I wrote Katherine Orian HAMP and George GIBBARD. I am sending you an article called the Padbury Man. My Aunt in England sent me this a few years ago. It is of Leonard Malcolm GIBBARD. A lot of the graves my Aunt couldn't read they were too old, Below is what she wrote to me. I had a job to read Nans& Grampy Hamps, I had to smile on Louisa Holt it said peace perfect peace, on George Gibbard I couldn't read much Husband of Catherine Orena Gibbard age 90yrs, I know he died years before her,On Malcolm Gibbard it said Lenherd Malcolm Gibbard I think he was 89yrs old when he died, I may ring Mary Tiller up over the weekend Malcolm's grand-daughter. Katherine Orean Hamp Married to George Gibbard & Malcolm was there only children, He was born 8th June 1915 Malcolm married Winifred Wheeler(Letty)1941, Catherine O Hamp marriage to George Gibbard 3a 2316 Winslow Sept quarter 1914 I will contact my Aunt to see if she can clarify on the spellings of Katherine?s name. I also have some photocopies of old diaries my grandmother and Gt grandmother had I will check for any reference to this side of the family in them. Hope this clears up a few things for you. Linda HYPERLINK "mailto:[email protected]"[email protected] Phone mobile 0272006125 Linda No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/946 - Release Date: 10/08/2007 3:50 p.m. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:31:12 +0100 From: "Celia Renshaw" <[email protected]> Subject: [BKM] Origin of surname SPATCHER To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" SPATCHERs (occasionally spelled SPACHER) were in the registers of Stowe from the start (1580). Outside of Stowe it's an incredibly rare name, up until the 19th century. I'm trying to find the surname's meaning/origins and to find out if there were SPATCHERs in north Bucks before 1580 - and I'm having trouble on both counts. Can anyone help? Anyone with a good surname dictionary or guide to surname etymology who could do a lookup please? The online reference sources I've tried don't include the name. Does anyone have any knowledge of the Stowe area pre-1580 who can guide on best places to look for earlier SPATCHERs? Any ideas or advice much appreciated. Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:02:17 +0100 (BST) From: SHEILA REYNOLDS <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BKM] [GLS] Ancestry - Missing Birth Records 1913 To: [email protected], Dumfries Galloway <[email protected]>, eng-cul-Carlisle <[email protected]>, essex-uk list <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This was sent to one of my list's so I am forwarding in case it helps someone out there. Sheila Della Markey wrote: Dear List Searching in Ancestry's index of Complete Births England & Wales for a birth in Q1 1913 for surname WALKER without any luck, I finally emailed Ancestry. This is the reply. "We were aware that U-Z of the 1st quarter birth index for 1913 were missing. We have submitted this to our site developers and we do not have a time frame as to when these will be added. These types of errors can take quite some time and we appreciate your patience." So the searcher beware!! I found the reference I was looking for on the FreeBDM site. Regards Della in Melbourne _____________________________________________ Browse the list archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GLOUCESTER/ Keyword search - any or all lists: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:29:49 +0100 From: "LindaFH" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BKM] Origin of surname SPATCHER To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Celia, I hope that you are well! SPACHER is a French name that I have come into contact with so perhaps this is the original source of the surname? Have you seen the SPATCHER forum on Genealogy.com? No posts for a while but I noticed that someone had Spatcher's originating from Padbury. Best wishes Linda Staffs UK Researching: Cook(e) Plant Mason Keys Pearsall and variants Broster Rastall Turner Smith Miller Dunn Walton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Renshaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:31 AM Subject: [BKM] Origin of surname SPATCHER > SPATCHERs (occasionally spelled SPACHER) were in the registers of > Stowe from the start (1580). Outside of Stowe it's an incredibly rare > name, up until the 19th century. I'm trying to find the surname's > meaning/origins and to find out if there were SPATCHERs in north Bucks > before 1580 - and I'm having trouble on both counts. Can anyone help? > Anyone with a good surname dictionary or guide to surname etymology > who could do a lookup please? > The > online reference sources I've tried don't include the name. Does > anyone have any knowledge of the Stowe area pre-1580 who can guide on > best places to look for earlier SPATCHERs? > > Any ideas or advice much appreciated. > > Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK ------------------------------ To contact the BUCKS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BUCKS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BUCKS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 196 *************************************