St. Johns was at Stone, just outside Aylesbury. Closed in 1991, when "care in the community" had become the fashion, & its once extensive grounds are now covered by houses. Information about various County Asylums, etc. http://www.studymore.org.uk/4_13_ta.htm Joan wrote: > Hello. Following a discussion on unregistered or difficult to find deaths on another list, someone suggested that a mentally ill person might be put into an asylum or similar institution. I doubt this would have happened to Mary HUDSON as her husband had a business in Wycombe and she had several family members still alive. But it is a possibility. I have delved into several "asylum" and hospital sites for Bucks. The name St John's crops up. Would anyone know where I could check for the existence of mental asylum or similar institution records in the Wycombe District area, please, in the post-1891 era? I assume that some asylums would have their own burial grounds? > > Within the discussion a lister opined that at that time, a death or cremation could not have been conducted without a death certificate, but the problem was that often the original christian, even surname, had been forgotten or changed. Doesn't bode well for those of us chasing the illusive "end of life" details, does it?Thank you. Joan. > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

> St. Johns was at Stone, just outside Aylesbury. Closed in 1991, when > "care in the community" had become the fashion, & its once extensive > grounds are now covered by houses. St John's was the only County Asylum, and people from the Wycombe area were sent there. The records are in the County Archives, closed for 100 years as usual However, anyone with a wealthy family background could have found a 'nursing home' out of area for disposal of a family member with mental problems who was not violent and in need of restraint. This could have been quuite a small set-up, not necessarily registered as an asylum (with county council by then) and not necessarily in Bucks, if the family wished to avoid confrontation with local neighbours who might gossip. If so, her death would be registered wherever she died, and this may not be anywhere near Bucks.

Hi Paul. Thanks for that. Very interesting website. The conditions of asylums and poor houses c. 1840's makes daunting reading. Have flagged it for further browsing when necessary in the future. But without a scrap of information that Mary did finish up in one, there is not much I can research at present. The concept that my gt grandmother might have been "put in a home" really seems as unlikely as a divorce. And in 1897 when Alfred died, his son bought a private burial plot for 4 people in Wycombe cemetery. He was a single man. I wonder why? I shall just have to keep looking. But if I every solve this mystery I'll post to list. Thanks everyone for continued interest. Joan - sweltering in Surrey. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Irving" <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] asylum or similar in Wycome District c. 1891 to early1900's > St. Johns was at Stone, just outside Aylesbury. Closed in 1991, when > "care in the community" had become the fashion, & its once extensive > grounds are now covered by houses. > > Information about various County Asylums, etc. > http://www.studymore.org.uk/4_13_ta.htm > > Joan wrote: >> Hello. Following a discussion on unregistered or difficult to find deaths >> on another list, someone suggested that a mentally ill person might be >> put into an asylum or similar institution. I doubt this would have >> happened to Mary HUDSON as her husband had a business in Wycombe and she >> had several family members still alive. But it is a possibility. I have >> delved into several "asylum" and hospital sites for Bucks. The name St >> John's crops up. Would anyone know where I could check for the existence >> of mental asylum or similar institution records in the Wycombe District >> area, please, in the post-1891 era? I assume that some asylums would have >> their own burial grounds? >>