So this web-site might be of interest Gill:- http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getschool.php?id=584 John Gill Smith wrote: > Thank you John for this information. This gives me hope that I can find > such information as you have on your gg grandfather. Unlike your situation > I have now found the wife in a young ladies training school located in The > Close of Salisbury Cathedral - this in 1851 at the age of 17. I had noted > that all the schools at which they taught seemed to be closely associated > with the church. > > Much appreciated help from John and David > > Gill Smith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Our Mail" <ourmail@chez-williams.com> > To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:32 AM > Subject: Re: [BKM] Off topic - Schoolteachers > > > >> Gill, my wife's gg grandfather attended the Culham Training College -a C >> of E establishment SE of Abingdon founded in 1852. I have found him in >> their records. He was originally a servant in a vicar's house, who >> sponsored him at the college. After probationary periods at a couple of >> local schools he took charge of the National School in Binfeld. We have >> the records of the various inspections of the school with comments >> regarding his efficiency in the various subjects.. His wife was shown >> on census as schoolmistress - but there is no record of her having >> received any training! I suspect that the post came as being wife to >> the schoolmaster!! A daily diary is in the Berkshire RO. One entry >> records that the school was closed that day as he was burying his son! >> It also gives details of attendance - which fell markedly during the >> harvest season! >> >> To answer your original question, I think his posting probably came via >> the college. However you might like to read up on The National >> Society. This was formed in 1811 with the aim of setting up a school in >> every parish - so it's possible they exercised a central co-ordinating >> role. Start with http://www.natsoc.org.uk/society/history/ >> As for your ancestors - I suggest that you start by looking for training >> colleges in Gloucestershire and see if they have any record. Probably >> only the husband attended such a college. >> >> John >> >>> Hi Gill, >>> >>> I don't know the answer but maybe 5 to 7 years ago Wikipedia used to >>> provide explanations. I entered an off-list discussion (with, as it >>> turned out, a retired history teacher!) on the subject using info from >>> Wikipedia and discovered Wikipedia would change almost from hour to >>> hour. >>> >>> The Wikipedia battleground was apparently an online war between >>> current adherents of the various Christian sects who were actually >>> involved at the time compounded by rival Uk v USA camps anxious to >>> over-write each other. >>> Now Wikipedia seems to be silent on the subject! >>> >>> But it still has a reference to an Education Act of 1833 and that may >>> relate to this funding - perhaps through the Established Church - >>> referred to in an individual item: >>> "A Committee of the Privy Council was appointed in 1839 to supervise >>> the distribution of certain Government grants in the education field. >>> The members of the Committee were the Lord President of the Council, >>> the Secretaries of State, the First Lord of the Treasury, and the >>> Chancellor of the Exchequer. From 1857 a Vice President was appointed >>> who took responsibility for policy." >>> >>> There were certainly government-appointed Inspectors of Schools during >>> the period you ask about. Perhaps they supervised the 'church' >>> schools. >>> >>> Here is the first bit of apparently "solid ground" but that is marked >>> as requiring further references to sources : >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_Education_Act_1870 >>> >>> This is the kind of thing that was once on Wikipedia >>> http://www.scholieren.com/werkstukken/28215 >>> >>> Would the National Union of Teachers be able to advise you? >>> >>> Sorry that's not much help >>> David >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/2009, at 3:00 AM, Gill Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hello all you knowledgeable people ! >>>> >>>> This is a general question that I am hoping someone can help me >>>> with. Does anyone know how a person in the mid to late 1850's would >>>> obtain certification as a National Schoolmaster/Mistress? Also how >>>> they obtained their "postings" to the various schools in which they >>>> taught. >>>> >>>> I have a husband and wife who were born and schooled in >>>> Gloucestershire and Wiltshire respectively. Their first joint >>>> posting was to Burton Latimer, Northants. The next to Sowerby, West >>>> Riding, Yorkshire amd lastly to Middleton in Lancashire. >>>> >>>> It would appear that there was some central body directing these >>>> teachers around the country and/or taking applications for >>>> transfers, apart from the original certifications. >>>> >>>> Has anyone come across a website on the subject ? >>>> >>>> Any direction to some kind of information would be much appreciated. >>>> >>>> Gill Smith >>>> *************************************** >>>> >>>> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >>>> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >>>> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com >>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>> the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >>> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >>> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.15/2093 - Release Date: 05/02/09 > 14:23:00 > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com