Thank you John for this information. This gives me hope that I can find such information as you have on your gg grandfather. Unlike your situation I have now found the wife in a young ladies training school located in The Close of Salisbury Cathedral - this in 1851 at the age of 17. I had noted that all the schools at which they taught seemed to be closely associated with the church. Much appreciated help from John and David Gill Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Our Mail" <ourmail@chez-williams.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Off topic - Schoolteachers > Gill, my wife's gg grandfather attended the Culham Training College -a C > of E establishment SE of Abingdon founded in 1852. I have found him in > their records. He was originally a servant in a vicar's house, who > sponsored him at the college. After probationary periods at a couple of > local schools he took charge of the National School in Binfeld. We have > the records of the various inspections of the school with comments > regarding his efficiency in the various subjects.. His wife was shown > on census as schoolmistress - but there is no record of her having > received any training! I suspect that the post came as being wife to > the schoolmaster!! A daily diary is in the Berkshire RO. One entry > records that the school was closed that day as he was burying his son! > It also gives details of attendance - which fell markedly during the > harvest season! > > To answer your original question, I think his posting probably came via > the college. However you might like to read up on The National > Society. This was formed in 1811 with the aim of setting up a school in > every parish - so it's possible they exercised a central co-ordinating > role. Start with http://www.natsoc.org.uk/society/history/ > As for your ancestors - I suggest that you start by looking for training > colleges in Gloucestershire and see if they have any record. Probably > only the husband attended such a college. > > John >> Hi Gill, >> >> I don't know the answer but maybe 5 to 7 years ago Wikipedia used to >> provide explanations. I entered an off-list discussion (with, as it >> turned out, a retired history teacher!) on the subject using info from >> Wikipedia and discovered Wikipedia would change almost from hour to >> hour. >> >> The Wikipedia battleground was apparently an online war between >> current adherents of the various Christian sects who were actually >> involved at the time compounded by rival Uk v USA camps anxious to >> over-write each other. >> Now Wikipedia seems to be silent on the subject! >> >> But it still has a reference to an Education Act of 1833 and that may >> relate to this funding - perhaps through the Established Church - >> referred to in an individual item: >> "A Committee of the Privy Council was appointed in 1839 to supervise >> the distribution of certain Government grants in the education field. >> The members of the Committee were the Lord President of the Council, >> the Secretaries of State, the First Lord of the Treasury, and the >> Chancellor of the Exchequer. From 1857 a Vice President was appointed >> who took responsibility for policy." >> >> There were certainly government-appointed Inspectors of Schools during >> the period you ask about. Perhaps they supervised the 'church' >> schools. >> >> Here is the first bit of apparently "solid ground" but that is marked >> as requiring further references to sources : >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_Education_Act_1870 >> >> This is the kind of thing that was once on Wikipedia >> http://www.scholieren.com/werkstukken/28215 >> >> Would the National Union of Teachers be able to advise you? >> >> Sorry that's not much help >> David >> >> >> On 2/05/2009, at 3:00 AM, Gill Smith wrote: >> >> >>> Hello all you knowledgeable people ! >>> >>> This is a general question that I am hoping someone can help me >>> with. Does anyone know how a person in the mid to late 1850's would >>> obtain certification as a National Schoolmaster/Mistress? Also how >>> they obtained their "postings" to the various schools in which they >>> taught. >>> >>> I have a husband and wife who were born and schooled in >>> Gloucestershire and Wiltshire respectively. Their first joint >>> posting was to Burton Latimer, Northants. The next to Sowerby, West >>> Riding, Yorkshire amd lastly to Middleton in Lancashire. >>> >>> It would appear that there was some central body directing these >>> teachers around the country and/or taking applications for >>> transfers, apart from the original certifications. >>> >>> Has anyone come across a website on the subject ? >>> >>> Any direction to some kind of information would be much appreciated. >>> >>> Gill Smith >>> *************************************** >>> >>> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >>> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >>> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >> >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Gill, my wife's gg grandfather attended the Culham Training College -a C of E establishment SE of Abingdon founded in 1852. I have found him in their records. He was originally a servant in a vicar's house, who sponsored him at the college. After probationary periods at a couple of local schools he took charge of the National School in Binfeld. We have the records of the various inspections of the school with comments regarding his efficiency in the various subjects.. His wife was shown on census as schoolmistress - but there is no record of her having received any training! I suspect that the post came as being wife to the schoolmaster!! A daily diary is in the Berkshire RO. One entry records that the school was closed that day as he was burying his son! It also gives details of attendance - which fell markedly during the harvest season! To answer your original question, I think his posting probably came via the college. However you might like to read up on The National Society. This was formed in 1811 with the aim of setting up a school in every parish - so it's possible they exercised a central co-ordinating role. Start with http://www.natsoc.org.uk/society/history/ As for your ancestors - I suggest that you start by looking for training colleges in Gloucestershire and see if they have any record. Probably only the husband attended such a college. John > Hi Gill, > > I don't know the answer but maybe 5 to 7 years ago Wikipedia used to > provide explanations. I entered an off-list discussion (with, as it > turned out, a retired history teacher!) on the subject using info from > Wikipedia and discovered Wikipedia would change almost from hour to > hour. > > The Wikipedia battleground was apparently an online war between > current adherents of the various Christian sects who were actually > involved at the time compounded by rival Uk v USA camps anxious to > over-write each other. > Now Wikipedia seems to be silent on the subject! > > But it still has a reference to an Education Act of 1833 and that may > relate to this funding - perhaps through the Established Church - > referred to in an individual item: > "A Committee of the Privy Council was appointed in 1839 to supervise > the distribution of certain Government grants in the education field. > The members of the Committee were the Lord President of the Council, > the Secretaries of State, the First Lord of the Treasury, and the > Chancellor of the Exchequer. From 1857 a Vice President was appointed > who took responsibility for policy." > > There were certainly government-appointed Inspectors of Schools during > the period you ask about. Perhaps they supervised the 'church' > schools. > > Here is the first bit of apparently "solid ground" but that is marked > as requiring further references to sources : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_Education_Act_1870 > > This is the kind of thing that was once on Wikipedia > http://www.scholieren.com/werkstukken/28215 > > Would the National Union of Teachers be able to advise you? > > Sorry that's not much help > David > > > On 2/05/2009, at 3:00 AM, Gill Smith wrote: > > >> Hello all you knowledgeable people ! >> >> This is a general question that I am hoping someone can help me >> with. Does anyone know how a person in the mid to late 1850's would >> obtain certification as a National Schoolmaster/Mistress? Also how >> they obtained their "postings" to the various schools in which they >> taught. >> >> I have a husband and wife who were born and schooled in >> Gloucestershire and Wiltshire respectively. Their first joint >> posting was to Burton Latimer, Northants. The next to Sowerby, West >> Riding, Yorkshire amd lastly to Middleton in Lancashire. >> >> It would appear that there was some central body directing these >> teachers around the country and/or taking applications for >> transfers, apart from the original certifications. >> >> Has anyone come across a website on the subject ? >> >> Any direction to some kind of information would be much appreciated. >> >> Gill Smith >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4049 (20090501) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

You might want to look at GoogleBooks and put in 'national schoolmaster.' There is quite a bit to read including a copy of "The National Schoolmaster" from 1885 digitized by Oxford U. Liane

There are several WILLMORE (WILLMOR, WILLMER, WILMARE, WILMER, WILMORE) wills listed on the Buckinghamshire archives site at http://apps.buckscc.gov.uk/eforms/wills/search.aspx - especially in and around Padbury, e.g. at Preston Bisset. Worth checking. Even labourers sometimes left wills.You can get copies by post from Buckinghamshire archives. E-mail them (address on that page) with the references & they'll tell you if the wills you want can be copied, & what it'll cost. If you can't get at the original records, searches of the Bucks FHS databases should give you many of the records you seek. They transcribe the full record, which can have far more information than on the IGI - e.g. sit was common to state if a bride or groom was a widow or widower. http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Populations of Bucks parishes in the 19th century (from the censuses - 1801 onwards) can be found at Genuki - http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ Padbury had 459 inhabitants according to the 1801 census, rising to 708 in 1831, & falling back to 439 by 1901. The Milton Keynes Heritage Association has put some North Bucks genealogical data online at http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/genealogy.html - nothing for Padbury, but some parishes are not too far away. You may find something useful. If you have questions about individuals, people here may be able to help. For example, some WILMORs are recorded in the 1798 Posse Comitatus. Paul marr794@aol.com wrote: > I have made a database using parish records for births and marriages, census data, and whatever I could find on Ancestry.com, etc. for my family, the Willmores (and variants) in Bucks, mostly in the 1800's. I have not looked for wills because the vast majority were poor laborers. Now, I want to add in parish records for deaths,?hoping to end up with?something of a mini one name study for the family so I can identify certain persons, but I am not doing well at matching individuals with their deaths. I assume that?some marriages will be second marriages, but?the family?repeatedly used the same first names for children and I can't seem to sort them out. > > I have a few specific questions, all about the 1800's: > > Were all marriages entered in the parish registers??I know that not?all births were and obviously?not all deaths were recorded. > > How many people lived in?Padbury in the early 1800's?? > > Were all marriages entered in parish records?in the 1700's? > > Does anyone have tips to share for identifying second marriages in the early 1800's? > > If I ever manage to come to some conclusions, I will share the data. > > Thanks, Ann Marr > ? > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Thelma, Yes as Nivard said do not be put off by him being JUST a mason. A mason c1800 was skilled and considered part of the tradesmen class (like bakers, blacksmiths, etc) which was a step above unskilled labourers. They spanned the working/middle class. You will quite often find families with many members who were masons, bricklayers, carpenters, etc who were quite likely to have been involved in a housebuilding business. Back then stated occupations were very vague and a Mason could range from someone who just built stone walls to an architect/builder of cathedrals who had hundreds of employees! There was a lot of variance... In addition you will also find that the average will was written by someone like a farmer/yeoman who had his own farm/land. If they had several sons the first one or two might inherit the farm but the others might be apprenticed to some trade so there is no reason to suppose that a mason didn't have a farmer as a father... The most extreme job description I have seen was for a Farm Labourer who just so happened to own two war horses! Turned out his father was a very rich Knight and, if I remember correctly, county Sheriff. Not sure what his son was doing working on a farm but there you go... HTH > ------------------------------ > From: "Thelma Spicer" <thelma.spicer@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [BKM] EMERTON Marriage > > Thank you for your meaningful response. My Joseph Emmerton was just a mason > though and probably would not have had a will. I do however appreciate your > response.

I have made a database using parish records for births and marriages, census data, and whatever I could find on Ancestry.com, etc. for my family, the Willmores (and variants) in Bucks, mostly in the 1800's. I have not looked for wills because the vast majority were poor laborers. Now, I want to add in parish records for deaths,?hoping to end up with?something of a mini one name study for the family so I can identify certain persons, but I am not doing well at matching individuals with their deaths. I assume that?some marriages will be second marriages, but?the family?repeatedly used the same first names for children and I can't seem to sort them out. I have a few specific questions, all about the 1800's: Were all marriages entered in the parish registers??I know that not?all births were and obviously?not all deaths were recorded. How many people lived in?Padbury in the early 1800's?? Were all marriages entered in parish records?in the 1700's? Does anyone have tips to share for identifying second marriages in the early 1800's? If I ever manage to come to some conclusions, I will share the data. Thanks, Ann Marr ?

Well that`s a new one on me, but I only go back 6 years on Rootsweb lists. Regards Joe Austen in the good old land of oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fisher" <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Re Marriage ?Names > Hi > > It always used to be list etiquette put the surname of the subject of > the email in the subject line on all mailing lists but it appears to > have gone by the board in recent times. > If you had no knowledge of the surname you need not waste your time > reading it. > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich

Hello Joan,   I have done much researching of my roots in the Radnage parish registers in High Wycombe library for my Withers ancestors.  Have seen many references to the Stone family there.  I could perhaps look up for you if you're not in too much of a hurry!   Regards, Anne. Anne.   --- On Fri, 1/5/09, Joan <jmmj75@talktalk.net> wrote: From: Joan <jmmj75@talktalk.net> Subject: [BKM] Wills at Bucks RO for STONE and HUDSON To: bucks@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 10:02 PM Hi Baldrick. Thank you muchly for the link for searching wills at Bucks RO. Unfortunately the cut-off date cannot help me locate details of a will for Alfred John HUDSON who died 1897 in Wycombe, and was a furniture dealer. But Alfred married Mary STONE in August 1866, in Grays Middx. She came from Radnage (according to census) and her father was William STONE. There are refs for 2 William deaths, 1840 and 1852, but I have 4 "William" births. Can't get away from the fact that I just have to browse the par reg for Radnage. But the link might help a lot later. Joan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "baldrick" <baldricktheturnip@inspiralmail.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] EMERTON Marriage > Hi Thelma, > > Would suggest you also looke at the EMERTON wills at the Bucks RO. They have the > following post-1770 wills:- > > Robert Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1798 > > If you want to search for yourself the wills are indexed on > > http://apps.buckscc.gov.uk/eforms/wills/search.aspx > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Baldrick. Thank you muchly for the link for searching wills at Bucks RO. Unfortunately the cut-off date cannot help me locate details of a will for Alfred John HUDSON who died 1897 in Wycombe, and was a furniture dealer. But Alfred married Mary STONE in August 1866, in Grays Middx. She came from Radnage (according to census) and her father was William STONE. There are refs for 2 William deaths, 1840 and 1852, but I have 4 "William" births. Can't get away from the fact that I just have to browse the par reg for Radnage. But the link might help a lot later. Joan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "baldrick" <baldricktheturnip@inspiralmail.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] EMERTON Marriage > Hi Thelma, > > Would suggest you also looke at the EMERTON wills at the Bucks RO. They have the > following post-1770 wills:- > > Robert Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1798 > > If you want to search for yourself the wills are indexed on > > http://apps.buckscc.gov.uk/eforms/wills/search.aspx >

So Dr Geneal is not very genial, you could read them all or not bother, what a choice. Have as great a day as you can. That is if you can muster up the enthusiasm. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DrGeneal@aol.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: [BKM] Re Marriage ?Names > IIt would be nice if the correspodence about marriage quoted some names, > one could then decide whether to read it or just delete it > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Thelma I wouldn't be to sure there was no will, while its true more affluent people left wills than the run of the mill ag lab, if you look at the list from Bucks RO there is a labourer listed so always worth a look The best I found so far left just five pounds And please don't leave the list, you have done nothing wrong whatsoever Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Thank you for your meaningful response. My Joseph Emmerton was just a > mason > though and probably would not have had a will. I do however appreciate > your > response. > I fear though that I ought to get off this list, since I seem to have > started something meaningless. > Sincerely Thelma >> Hi Thelma, >> >> Would suggest you also looke at the EMERTON wills at the Bucks RO. They >> have the >> following post-1770 wills:- >> >> Robert Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1798 >> Thomas Emerton Newton Longville Baker 1770 >> William Emerton Bletchley Yeoman 1776 >> Alice Emerton Leckhampstead Widow 1789 >> Catharine Emerton Buckingham Spinster 1813 >> Edward Emerton Buckingham Gardener 1810 >> Henry Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1819 >> James Emerton Buckingham Gardener 1781 >> William Emmerton Nash, Whaddon Yeoman 1770 >> William Emmerson Shenley Brook End, Shenley Farmer 1853 >> John Emerson Bletchley Labourer 1825 >> Robert Emerson Shenley Yeoman 1776 >> Susanna Emerson Shenley Spinster 1777 >> Susanna Emerson Shenley Brook End Widow 1784 >> Thomas Emerson Shenley Farmer 1811 >> Thomas Emerson Bletchley Yeoman 1815 >> Thomas Emerson Mursley Farmer 1842

Hi Thelma, Would suggest you also looke at the EMERTON wills at the Bucks RO. They have the following post-1770 wills:- Robert Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1798 Thomas Emerton Newton Longville Baker 1770 William Emerton Bletchley Yeoman 1776 Alice Emerton Leckhampstead Widow 1789 Catharine Emerton Buckingham Spinster 1813 Edward Emerton Buckingham Gardener 1810 Henry Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1819 James Emerton Buckingham Gardener 1781 William Emmerton Nash, Whaddon Yeoman 1770 William Emmerson Shenley Brook End, Shenley Farmer 1853 John Emerson Bletchley Labourer 1825 Robert Emerson Shenley Yeoman 1776 Susanna Emerson Shenley Spinster 1777 Susanna Emerson Shenley Brook End Widow 1784 Thomas Emerson Shenley Farmer 1811 Thomas Emerson Bletchley Yeoman 1815 Thomas Emerson Mursley Farmer 1842 If you want to search for yourself the wills are indexed on http://apps.buckscc.gov.uk/eforms/wills/search.aspx In addition the National Archives have the following:- Will of William Emerton, Yeoman of Bletchley , Buckinghamshire 27 February 1800 PROB 11/1337 Will of Francis Emerton, Carpenter of Stewkley , Buckinghamshire 08 August 1789 PROB 11/1182 Will of John Emmerton, late Brewer of Ivinghoe , Buckinghamshire 17 May 1775 PROB 11/1007 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/power-search.asp?searchType=p owersearch HTH > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: "Thelma Spicer" <thelma.spicer@verizon.net> > Subject: [BKM] Marriage > > Hi, I am new to the list and am trying to find a date for the Buckingham > marriage of Joseph E(M)MERTON and Ann ?. They were born in 1801 and 1802 > respectively and their first daughter, my gg grandmether was born 31 Dec 1824 > and so I would imagine it would be around 1820. Does anyone have information > that they could share with me please? > Thank you for your help, > Thelma

Hi Jo While I wholeheartedly agree that a good subject line helps immeasurably it should not hinder a search of the archives Its far better to search the archives for keywords in the body of the mail rather than subject line Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Another reason for surnames/places in the subject line is for searching the archives. When you put in your surname/town in the archive search it will bring up those with your surname/town, something like "Help" or "searching for ancestors" in the subject line gives no clue.When new members join they often search the archives to check to see if perhaps a question they have has already been addressed, or

Hi Mike Yes it was/is preferable to enter surnames (in capitals) in the subject line, I think it was more relevant though when you could receive 400 plus mails per day from just a few lists, those days seem long gone I fear There are several things that should happen but don't, my point was using the subject line alone for surnames will surely miss many interesting and rewarding posts The choice is the users of course but it seems to go against the reason for having lists in the first place Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi > > It always used to be list etiquette put the surname of the subject of > the email in the subject line on all mailing lists but it appears to > have gone by the board in recent times. > If you had no knowledge of the surname you need not waste your time > reading it. > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich

Hi It always used to be list etiquette put the surname of the subject of the email in the subject line on all mailing lists but it appears to have gone by the board in recent times. If you had no knowledge of the surname you need not waste your time reading it. Mike Fisher in Droitwich Joe Austen wrote: > So Dr Geneal is not very genial, you could read them all or not bother, what > a choice. Have as great a day as you can. That is if you can muster up the > enthusiasm. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DrGeneal@aol.com> > To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:01 PM > Subject: [BKM] Re Marriage ?Names > > > >> IIt would be nice if the correspodence about marriage quoted some names, >> one could then decide whether to read it or just delete it >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Nivard, I will try it and see. Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com>; ""baldrick"" <baldricktheturnip@inspiralmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] EMERTON Marriage > Hi Thelma > > I wouldn't be to sure there was no will, while its true more affluent > people > left wills than the run of the mill ag lab, if you look at the list from > Bucks RO there is a labourer listed so always worth a look > > The best I found so far left just five pounds

Hi ?????? (no name) I receive more emails than that on a bad day :-) You can organise it better by using mail rules (assuming aol has them?) or download to outlook express or similar Set up rules to highlight any mail with any words/names of interest in (or move them to a separate folder) If you base mails to be read on the subject line I suggest you are missing many of interest and also missing the point of mailing lists in general You can also pick and choose any mails that contain certain words/names/places posted to any list (of the over 30,000 lists available) by a search of the archives As its not on topic for this list I will leave it there Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) PS its also helpful to give a little of the previous post to keep yours in context :-) > Sorry I perhaps did not make myself clear I meant names in the Subject > line > of course. I am a member of several county lines and receive sometimes > over 100 emails in a day. It is less time consuming to be able to pick > out > those which are of interest

Thank you for your meaningful response. My Joseph Emmerton was just a mason though and probably would not have had a will. I do however appreciate your response. I fear though that I ought to get off this list, since I seem to have started something meaningless. Sincerely Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: ""baldrick"" <baldricktheturnip@inspiralmail.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] EMERTON Marriage > Hi Thelma, > > Would suggest you also looke at the EMERTON wills at the Bucks RO. They > have the > following post-1770 wills:- > > Robert Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1798 > Thomas Emerton Newton Longville Baker 1770 > William Emerton Bletchley Yeoman 1776 > Alice Emerton Leckhampstead Widow 1789 > Catharine Emerton Buckingham Spinster 1813 > Edward Emerton Buckingham Gardener 1810 > Henry Emerton Long Crendon Yeoman 1819 > James Emerton Buckingham Gardener 1781 > William Emmerton Nash, Whaddon Yeoman 1770 > William Emmerson Shenley Brook End, Shenley Farmer 1853 > John Emerson Bletchley Labourer 1825 > Robert Emerson Shenley Yeoman 1776 > Susanna Emerson Shenley Spinster 1777 > Susanna Emerson Shenley Brook End Widow 1784 > Thomas Emerson Shenley Farmer 1811 > Thomas Emerson Bletchley Yeoman 1815 > Thomas Emerson Mursley Farmer 1842 > > If you want to search for yourself the wills are indexed on > > http://apps.buckscc.gov.uk/eforms/wills/search.aspx > > In addition the National Archives have the following:- > > Will of William Emerton, Yeoman of Bletchley , Buckinghamshire 27 February > 1800 PROB 11/1337 > Will of Francis Emerton, Carpenter of Stewkley , Buckinghamshire 08 August > 1789 PROB 11/1182 > Will of John Emmerton, late Brewer of Ivinghoe , Buckinghamshire 17 May > 1775 > PROB 11/1007 > > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/power-search.asp?searchType=p

Hi It always used to be list etiquette put the surname of the subject of the email in the subject line on all mailing lists but it appears to have gone by the board in recent times. If you had no knowledge of the surname you need not waste your time reading it. Mike Fisher in Droitwich Joe Austen wrote: > So Dr Geneal is not very genial, you could read them all or not bother, what > a choice. Have as great a day as you can. That is if you can muster up the > enthusiasm. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <DrGeneal@aol.com> > To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:01 PM > Subject: [BKM] Re Marriage ?Names > > > >> IIt would be nice if the correspodence about marriage quoted some names, >> one could then decide whether to read it or just delete it >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Please could people put the name being searched in the subject. It saves a lot of time. Margaret