Funny my grandmother was Emily Grace Lambourne and grandfather was Sydney William Smith born in Wealdstone Middlsex in 1889 ----- Original Message ----- From: <bucks-request@rootsweb.com> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:02 AM Subject: BUCKS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 176 > > > The default format for the Digest is Plain text. If you prefer to receive > your Digest in MIME format, please contact the list administrator. > > ************************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. BOUGHTON/PIMM Help needed (Andrea Franks) > 2. LAMBOURNE/SMITH (TXN) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:24:19 +0200 > From: "Andrea Franks" <andreafranks@pmcinst.co.za> > Subject: [BKM] BOUGHTON/PIMM Help needed > To: <BUCKS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <E1N39Ra-000L2F-MP@smtp01.isdsl.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear list, > > > > Is there anyone out there doing research on Nathaniel BROUGHTON who > married > Priscilla PIMM 14th Oct 1776 (Marsh Gibbon) John c 23rd Nov 1777, Ann c > 7th > Nov 1779, Elizabeth c 11 Aug 1782 and William c 9th Dec 1788 all in > (Grendon > Underwood), I am looking for both Nathaniel and Priscilla's place of > birth/Bapt, or parents. > > > > Regards, > > Andrea Franks (South Africa) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:30:11 +1300 > From: "TXN" <taxan@slingshot.co.nz> > Subject: [BKM] LAMBOURNE/SMITH > To: <Bucks@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <20F4296BE774423E94718B55BDDF1806@taxan6o9k9y7of> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, does anyone have connection to these families? > > ... Rhoda Lambourne (b Stanford in the Vale Berks 1874) married William > Smith ( b Up Lambourn, Lambourn Berks,1876)... on December 15th 1900 at > Hitcham, Buckinghamshire. At the time of their mariage William was living > in Wandsworth and Rhoda was living in Hitcham. > William's father Charles is listed as Blacksmith. > > They were last living at Lambourn Woodlands. > > Am looking for descendants of this family, I know there were twins but > have no names....any help much appreciated...thank you...Shirley > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BUCKS list administrator, send an email to > BUCKS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BUCKS mailing list, send an email to > BUCKS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BUCKS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 176 > ************************************* >

Hi Shirley, I have Rhoda in my files....not directly related to her. I can help with going backwards, if you need it. She was the youngest of 11 children born to Charles LAMBOURNE and Rhoda nee KING. Her father died when she was a baby. If you need more come back to me. >From 1911 census index: William 36, Rhoda, Violet 9, Dorothy 7, Emma 6, Charles 4 and twins George & Maud 2m. Resident in Uxbridge. >From Free BMD SMITH with mother's maiden name LAMBOURNE: Mabel JJ reg Uxbridge Jun 1913 (3a 99) Looks like she was theirs as well. HTH Sherry Landa (23170, Viersat, FRANCE) Hi, does anyone have connection to these families? ... Rhoda Lambourne (b Stanford in the Vale Berks 1874) married William Smith ( b Up Lambourn, Lambourn Berks,1876)... on December 15th 1900 at Hitcham, Buckinghamshire. At the time of their mariage William was living in Wandsworth and Rhoda was living in Hitcham. William's father Charles is listed as Blacksmith. They were last living at Lambourn Woodlands. Am looking for descendants of this family, I know there were twins but have no names....any help much appreciated...thank you...Shirley

Dear list, Is there anyone out there doing research on Nathaniel BROUGHTON who married Priscilla PIMM 14th Oct 1776 (Marsh Gibbon) John c 23rd Nov 1777, Ann c 7th Nov 1779, Elizabeth c 11 Aug 1782 and William c 9th Dec 1788 all in (Grendon Underwood), I am looking for both Nathaniel and Priscilla's place of birth/Bapt, or parents. Regards, Andrea Franks (South Africa)

Eileen wrote: <Has anyone got access to Waddesdon parish records for marriages pre civil registrations please. I am interested in a period from 1799-1838, for William Slade. This could be 1 x William or 2 x William! I have 3 marriages - 13 Jun.1799 to Ann Harding, 14 Jun.1807 = Elizabeth Allen, 29 July 1838 to Sarah Windmill. I suspect it is likely to be two different Williams, and the only wayI can idetify him/them particularly appears to be by their age(s) and father's name. I believe Ann (nee Harding) died in 1838, so the marriage in that year to Sarah Windmill (who was a widow by the way) might be a 2nd one, but to which William? The fathers concerned are likely to be Joseph Slade, or another William Slade. I hope there are enough details above for someone to be able to clarify this problem for me.> Eileen. You should look at Heather Rohrer's "The Roads Family of Buckinghamshire and One-Place Studies of Waddesdon,..." on rootsweb.ancestry.com. She has the William who married Ann and Sarah as son of Joseph with chr dates (indicated as birth dates) for him (1777) and siblings. I would guess that the 1838 marriage included his father's name. She takes the Slades back to early 1600s and forward one or more generations. She also has the William who married Elizabeth Allen as from Thornton, Bucks and dying in Quainton. She has three children for him. She does included the witnesses for the two earlier marriages. Have fun, Charlotte

What a pity I live so far away,I would love to hear John Smiths' story. I have been trying to help a friend with a similar story his name was James C Smith, born Slough Bucks 1861, up to 1881 his middle initial C was shown, after that it was dropped, she and I have discovered just how many James Smith's there are, and if various sights are to be believed a number of them born in either Slough Bucks or Bucks and it is impossible to buy every death certificate from about 1890 on and/or gain anything, as details of parents is lacking. It becomes ones of life's mysteries. So glad a cousin, ninth removed did most of the Buckinghamshire research of my family, I was one of the lucky ones. Please enjoy your meeting and chat, would love to hear how he over came the brick wall of so many "Smiths", you never know might win the lottery and just pop in for a chat (grin) Coralj - Aus

The next meeting of the Buckinghamshire Family History Society Northern Group will take place on Wednesday 4th November. This month's talk is by John Smith who will talk about "Tracking Down Grandfather George". With the surname SMITH you would be rather worried if you were trying to trace a grandfather who had “abandoned” his family. This was the problem faced by John T. SMITH, chairman of Cheddington Historical Society. Due to one piece of good luck and a lot of hard work John eventually broke down his brick wall. His interesting story detailing the resources he used and illustrated with images obtained from a number of sources is the subject of our November meeting “Tracking Down Grandfather George”. Northern Group meeting take place at Methodist Church Hall, Queensway, Bletchley MK2 2HB starting at 19:30 with time to chat before the talk. Directions to the hall are on our website http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/meetings All members and guests (inc possible new members) are welcome. We also hold monthly meetings at Aylesbury and Bourne End. Please follow the link above for further details. -- Dave Foster - Managing Trustee - Buckinghamshire Family History Society Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 290335 Member of the Federation of Family History Societies E-Mail: dave.foster@bucksfhs.org.uk Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk

Hi Paul, You might try searching for WOODIN families. I have ancestors with that spelling--it eventually became WOODING. See my Rootsweb page at: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dave_carlsen&id=I175 My WOODIN(G)s stayed around Emberton, but my John was married in Olney in 1790. So, you may find some clues there. Regards, Dave Carlsen davecarlsen@gmail.com P.O. Box 446, Harlem, GA 30814-0446 USA http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rhutch/genuki/BKM/bucksurname.html On Oct 25, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Paul Wooding wrote: > John Wooding appears in the 1851 census with a birthplace of > Buckingham. He > was a tanner, aged 45. He must have been a journeyman as he married > Harriet > Alexander in Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent in 1828, had daughters > born in > Sittingbourne in 1830 and 1831, sons born in Hertford in 1833 and > 1834, a > son in Northamptonshire in 1836, and a daughter and son (John, my > g-grandfather) in Bermondsey in 1837 and 1841. In the 1841 census he > and > family were in Olney. In 1851 John and daughter Harriet were > boarders in > Rochester while wife and rest of children were in Leighton Buzzard. > Harriet > was a widow in 1861 and she, her daughters and youngest son John all > emigrated to New Zealand at various dates between 1858 to 1865. > > > > I have not been able to find any birth/baptism records for John > Wooding > around 1805. A Mark Wooding was a tanner in Buckingham in 1841, and > other > Woodings born in "Buckingham, Buckinghamshire" show up in some census > records, so there were clearly Woodings living there. > > > > And a second question: Would it have been common for a tanner to > move around > so much in the 1830s and 1840s? > > > > Paul Wooding > > New Zealand > > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

John Wooding appears in the 1851 census with a birthplace of Buckingham. He was a tanner, aged 45. He must have been a journeyman as he married Harriet Alexander in Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent in 1828, had daughters born in Sittingbourne in 1830 and 1831, sons born in Hertford in 1833 and 1834, a son in Northamptonshire in 1836, and a daughter and son (John, my g-grandfather) in Bermondsey in 1837 and 1841. In the 1841 census he and family were in Olney. In 1851 John and daughter Harriet were boarders in Rochester while wife and rest of children were in Leighton Buzzard. Harriet was a widow in 1861 and she, her daughters and youngest son John all emigrated to New Zealand at various dates between 1858 to 1865. I have not been able to find any birth/baptism records for John Wooding around 1805. A Mark Wooding was a tanner in Buckingham in 1841, and other Woodings born in "Buckingham, Buckinghamshire" show up in some census records, so there were clearly Woodings living there. And a second question: Would it have been common for a tanner to move around so much in the 1830s and 1840s? Paul Wooding New Zealand

> John Wooding appears in the 1851 census with a birthplace of > Buckingham. He was a tanner, aged 45. He must have been a journeyman Journeyman does not mean someone who travelled around, but a man who has served his apprenticeship to a craft trade and is now employed by the day, (or journee) not a matser with his own business. True, some did travel for work, but that is not the meaning of the word. Your man was above averagely mobile, probably leaving Buckingham because of a depression in the trade there, and trying his luck in various places. The 1830s were generally a difficult time in rural areas, but most men upped and went to London or one of the major industrial areas. Northampton was a centre of the shoe trade, so used a great deal of leather. Bermondsey was the London area where tanneries were based ( and very smelly too), It does suggest that either John was not the most skilled (so dismissed first in any recession) or (probably) that he had a very short fuse and kept quarrelling with his employers. Shows spirit, maybe,m but very hard on the family, having to up sticks and move just when they were settled. EVE McLaughlin >

Hi In the Posse Comitatus of 1798, there is Mark WOODING and James WOODING, both Labourers of Prebend End (part of Buckingham). Either or both of these could be related to your man. I don't think that the records for Buckingham have been transcribed to the IGI, but you may find someone on this list who can do a look up for you at the Centre for Buckinghamshire Studies in Aylesbury. Rgds Judith

> > > I'm new to this list. I'm seeking information about the name > 'Leemings'. There is a Francis Leemings who crops up in the middle of the county - some link with Thame,(Oxon) I believe, then into Bucks. And an Anthony Leeming, I have noted somewhere. It is a very uncommon name, so you tend to notice it when it comes up.

Hi Paul, You might try searching for WOODIN families. I have ancestors with that spelling--it eventually became WOODING. See my Rootsweb page at: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dave_carlsen&id=I175 My WOODIN(G)s stayed around Emberton, but my John was married in Olney in 1790. So, you may find some clues there. Regards, Dave Carlsen davecarlsen@gmail.com P.O. Box 446, Harlem, GA 30814-0446 USA http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rhutch/genuki/BKM/bucksurname.html On Oct 25, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Paul Wooding wrote: > John Wooding appears in the 1851 census with a birthplace of > Buckingham. He > was a tanner, aged 45. He must have been a journeyman as he married > Harriet > Alexander in Milton next Sittingbourne, Kent in 1828, had daughters > born in > Sittingbourne in 1830 and 1831, sons born in Hertford in 1833 and > 1834, a > son in Northamptonshire in 1836, and a daughter and son (John, my > g-grandfather) in Bermondsey in 1837 and 1841. In the 1841 census he > and > family were in Olney. In 1851 John and daughter Harriet were > boarders in > Rochester while wife and rest of children were in Leighton Buzzard. > Harriet > was a widow in 1861 and she, her daughters and youngest son John all > emigrated to New Zealand at various dates between 1858 to 1865. > > > > I have not been able to find any birth/baptism records for John > Wooding > around 1805. A Mark Wooding was a tanner in Buckingham in 1841, and > other > Woodings born in "Buckingham, Buckinghamshire" show up in some census > records, so there were clearly Woodings living there. > > > > And a second question: Would it have been common for a tanner to > move around > so much in the 1830s and 1840s? > > > > Paul Wooding > > New Zealand > > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Charles I have the name LEEMING prominently in my family but they are not from BKM. My lot originate from James Leeming born abt 1800 in Lancashire and who settled in Hull later. Leeming is not an unusual name in Lancashire and West Yorkshire. Kind regs - Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Flawn" <cjsflawn@hotmail.co.uk> To: <bucks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: [BKM] Family name 'Leemings' > > > I'm new to this list. I'm seeking information about the name 'Leemings'. > > Has any one got this name on their tree? > > Pls advise. > Best regards > Charles > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/ > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Charles No connection myself I can see no connection between Buckinghamshire and LEEMINGS in the census or BMD , there are some LEEMING which I would say is the more likely name used I would suggest posting who it is you are trying to find with where and when if only roughly Not sure you will get anything worthwhile with your present post Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I'm new to this list. I'm seeking information about the name 'Leemings'. > > Has any one got this name on their tree? > > Pls advise. > Best regards > Charles

Has anyone got access to Waddesdon parish records for marriages pre civil registrations please. I am interested in a period from 1799-1838, for William Slade. This could be 1 x William or 2 x William! I have 3 marriages - 13 Jun.1799 to Ann Harding, 14 Jun.1807 = Elizabeth Allen, 29 July 1838 to Sarah Windmill. I suspect it is likely to be two different Williams, and the only wayI can idetify him/them particularly appears to be by their age(s) and father's name. I believe Ann (nee Harding) died in 1838, so the marriage in that year to Sarah Windmill (who was a widow by the way) might be a 2nd one, but to which William? The fathers concerned are likely to be Joseph Slade, or another William Slade. I hope there are enough details above for someone to be able to clarify this problem for me. Eileen _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/

I'm new to this list. I'm seeking information about the name 'Leemings'. Has any one got this name on their tree? Pls advise. Best regards Charles _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/

Hi Listers, if anyone has any information or can connect with my 'Irwin' family, I would be very pleased to hear from you: William Irwin, b1789 in Bledlow, UK and d1860 in Aylesbury, UK. Chelsea pensioner in 1851. Jane Irwin, b1832 in Aylesbury, UK and d1863 in Aylesbury, UK. William Irwin Jnr, b1835 in Aylesbury, UK. George Irwin, b1839 in Aylesbury, UK and d1884 in Sydney, Australia. Emma Irwin, b1843 in Aylesbury, UK. Isaac Irwin, b1846 in Aylesbury, UK. Ed Koeppen

Hi Listers, if anyone has any information or can connect with my 'Irwin' family, I would be very pleased to hear from you - William Irwin, b1789 Aylesbury, d1860 Aylesbury, a Chelsea pensioner in 1851. Ed Koeppen

If you look at the 1851 census, you'll see that it gives his place of birth as Bledlow, not Aylesbury (age 62). This is very convenient, as the Aylesbury parish registers do not show anyone named IRWIN or any variant thereof before 1812, but the Bledlow PRs are full of IRWINs (IRWINGs, IRVINGs, etc) from 1697 onwards - my family. :) Unfortunately, I don't know how he connects to the other Bledlow Irvings, or my family. He (as William IRVIN) married Mary X EVETT at Aylesbury 2 Oct 1831. Witnesses Ann X Evett, Horwood John Bunce The 1851 census shows John EVETT, father in law aged 75, pauper born Aylesbury, living with them There were banns published at Aylesbury, but no marriage, for William IRVIN & Anne EVETT 14 Feb 1830, with a note "Entry deleted" in the transcript. Hmm. Among their children born in Aylesbury - 21 Sep 1832 Jane daughter of William & Mary IRVINE of Walton, Pensioner 10 Jun 1835 William son of William & Mary IRVINE of Walton, Chelsea Pensioner (buried 25 Nov 1847 as IRVING) 10 Apr 1839 George son of William & Mary IRVING of Walton, Tailor The 1841 census (from my own incomplete transcription, online at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lanchbury/genealogy/aylesbury1841.html) shows - William IRWIN 52 Labourer Y Mary IRWIN 27 Y Jane IRWIN 9 Y William IRWIN 6 Y George IRWIN 2 Y Elsewhere on May Lanchburys genealogy pages (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lanchbury/genealogy/) there is a transcript of the Bledlow PRs, by Dexter Eustis. Not quite complete, as Dexter seems to have worked from LDS films some of which were of (incomplete) BTs rather than the original register, but very good nevertheless. You may find William there. But be warned that people - & that lot I think more than most - moved around a bit, & occasionally someone might remember growing up in one village, but have been christened in another. My great-grandfather always reckoned he was born in Oakley, Chinnor, where he grew up & his parents lived when he was born, but his birth certificate & christening record agree on Aston Rowant, where his grandparents lived. His mother went home to mum to have her first baby. You can buy a copy of his army record from the National Archives. Reference WO 97/488/87 - WILLIAM IRWIN Born BLEDLOW, Buckinghamshire Served in 30th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 42 Covering dates (should be the dates he was in the army) 1804-1829 http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=-3938329&CATLN=7&Highlight=%2CBLEDLOW&accessmethod=0 Be warned that you need to look out for vast numbers of variations, including ARWIN, ARVING, ARROWING (yes, really!), HERWING, HARAWING - very difficult, at times. Any more questions, perhaps you should contact me off-list. Paul Irving. Ed Koeppen wrote: > Hi Listers, if anyone has any information or can connect with my 'Irwin' > family, I would be very pleased to hear from you - William Irwin, b1789 > Aylesbury, d1860 Aylesbury, a Chelsea pensioner in 1851. > > > > Ed Koeppen > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BUCKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Forwarded by Listowner. Please reply to: carolann.wilson@talktalk.net I have been searching for a Mary Childs b 1829c in Beaconsfield also her father Charles Childs b 1800c. Mary married James Hares 22/12/1850 in Beaconsfield. Need to pin down address for possible birth on Parish records and would like to make contact with Emma who is also researching the Childs family. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Carol