Hello Kevin, Is there any news yet of when we will receive our pre-ordered CD-ROMs??? Not 'pushing' at all, just hoping I haven't been forgotten! Best wishes, Jane -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Quick [mailto:k.a.quick@open.ac.uk] Sent: 17 July 2004 18:52 To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BKM] Bucks 1861 census project The BGS is taking pre-release orders. The cost of the CD-ROM is 21 pounds (postage 1 pound UK and 1 pound and 75 pence overseas). However for our own BGS members ordering pre-release, we are offering a special price of 18 pounds, plus postage (as above). Orders should be sent to Antony McLaughlin, Varneys, Rudds Lane, Haddenham HP17 8JP (cheques should be made payable to 'Bucks GS' - and should be in pounds sterling) Kevin Quick BGS 1861 Census Coordinator -----Original Message----- From: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com [mailto:BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com] Sent: 17 July 2004 13:34 To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BKM] Bucks 1861 census project Importance: Low Excellent news Kevin. is there any way to pre-order copies so that as soon as they are ready you can dispatch them directly to us? >>From: "Kevin Quick" <k.a.quick@open.ac.uk> >>To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [BKM] Bucks 1861 census project >>Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:45:56 +0100 >> >>Dear Listers >> >>Just to keep everyone updated with the latest status of the >>Buckinghamshire Genealogical Society's 1861 Census Indexing Project. >> >>The project is now into the final phase. The entire Buckinghamshire 1861 >>census has been transcribed to disk. The data has all been checked three >>times and any resulting corrections made. >> >>The final task involves integrating the data with the search engine >>software and production of the CDs. This last phase is expected take a >>month or two, and is the responsibility of the software company that >>produces and develops the excellent search engine software. >> >>Regards >> >>Kevin Quick >>BGS 1861 Project Co-ordinator >> >> >> >>==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >>Advertising for financial gain is not permitted on this List, although >>subscribers may include a link to their website in their signature. >> > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send message to: bucks-l-request@rootsweb.com or bucks-d-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the body of the message ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== As of 16 January 2004: 381 list subscribers 203 digest subscribers 584 total subscribers --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.779 / Virus Database: 526 - Release Date: 19/10/2004

> >In the house of Susanna GOVIER, is Zilpah BALDWIN, listed as Head (aged 66). >In >addition to Susanna, 4 children are listed, all GOVIER. The 2 boys are shown >as >GS which I take to be Grandsons, but both the girls (age 11 and 3 yrs) are >shown >as DL, which indicates Daughter in Law. I presume this to be a mistake or was >this a common way of description? son/daughter 'in law' was used for step children. However, the relationship is stated as to the head of the household, and there is no easy way that a woman named Baldwin could have step children named Govier, or that a woman of 66 would have steps of a different name aged 11/3. > >I am also intrigued to know whether the children are Susannas' or whether she >is >perhaps the step-mother. She is listed as being 25 and the eldest child is >11years. Did she start at 14, have 4 children by GOVIER, and then another 7 >with >John WARNER? > >I would like to discover if Susanna would have been a BALDWIN (before marrying >a >GOVIER) and if Zilpah is her Mother. Also, how do I get hold of Zilpah's >records for her parents' detail, she being born around 1785? Zilpah does not >seem to appear in the Parish Register. > >I understand that a gentleman, by the name of Govier, has within the past few >years written a book about his family connection with the needle industry and >may have some wider family history. The maternal line that I am following are >all Lacemakers although I imagine there was a lot of 'crossover' with needles. > >Any pointers would be appreciated > >Thanks >Richard Rogers > > >==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >Advertising for financial gain is not permitted on this List, although >subscribers may include a link to their website in their signature. > -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

I wonder of some person on this knowledgeable list may be able to help me? I have a schoolboy at Sedgley Park in Staffordshire who had an allowance of two pounds sterling ?2.0s.0d (two pounds) and 10 shillings spending cash for a journey home in March 1829 - But where was home? Does anyone know where I could locate a list of coach fares around 1829 so I could get some idea of a radius to where he may have travelled ? The nearest big towns from where the journey may have commenced were Wolverhampton or Dudley. And 2 pounds in those days would be worth about ?104 pounds in today's money - quite a substantial sum. Many thanks in advance, Ken

In message <014201c4b975$e3cc3660$0701a8c0@john>, Bev Mackinlay <bbm@it.net.au> writes > > Can SKS advise me as to what local newspaper would have been operating in >Beaconsfield in the 1860s The Bucks Free Press, published in High Wycombe, down the road. It is still going. >and/ or indexed the names in such a paper? > no luck there. Indexes are as rare as hen's teeth. However, a clergyman going wrong may have been mentioned in The Times, so checking the Palmer Index to the Times (shd be available on line, or at libraries, on the Thomapson/Gale site) >I am still trying to track down details of Rev John GOULD's imprisonment for >debt imprisoning bankrupts was one of the illogical things they did then - it ensured that they could not earn any money to pay off their debts. >I would also appreciate advice as to what local newpaper/s are currently >read in Beaconsfield, with an email address, if possible, as it has been >suggested I might place an enquiry in such a paper Not usually the thing that people just know (unless they are related and still ln the area *unlikely) or local historians - possible since there is a small local History group. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

I hope I have answered all who replied to my original e mail but in case I missed anyone hearty thank you to all . Sheila

Can SKS advise me as to what local newspaper would have been operating in Beaconsfield in the 1860s and/ or indexed the names in such a paper? I am still trying to track down details of Rev John GOULD's imprisonment for debt and subsequent weekend release to take services in All Saints and St Mary's, prior to his death in 1866. I would also appreciate advice as to what local newpaper/s are currently read in Beaconsfield, with an email address, if possible, as it has been suggested I might place an enquiry in such a paper (thankyou, Richard). I am living in Perth, Western Australia and must do my research via the internet. T.I.A Beverley

I have been give copies of these books (bound digests of the monthly magazine, I presume). They do contain some church records for those years (baptisms, marriages, burials) if anyone is interested. Heatha

Trying to find additional information on John and Elizabeth Blackwell. According to 1871 Census John was born in Bradwell, Buckinghamshire in 1803 (age 66). In 1860 he was living in London and working as a Coachman. His daughter Harriett Blackwell (my grand grandmother) was married at old St Pancras Church in 1860. At the wedding there was a Richard Charles Blackwell. In 1871 he and Elizabeth are living on an annuity in London. Elizabeth was born in Suffolk, England and was 60 years old in 1871 (born 1809). I can not find them in the 1881 Census and assume they had passed away by then. I would like to find information on (1) John's mother, father, and siblings (2)marriage place and date (3)Elizabeth's maiden name and (4) when he migrated to London and (5) who was Richard Charles Blackwell, a brother or son or other relationship. Any information or suggestions to finding data would be appreciated. Brian Sealy

In message <20041022065335.92574.qmail@web86906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, Elizabeth Allen <lizziecallen@yahoo.co.uk> writes >Many thanks, Eve. Where can I obtain a copy of >'Tracing Your Ancestors in Bucks'? From me at Varneys, Rudds Lane, Haddenham HP17 8JP, costs 3.50 plus UK post 50 -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Dear Clive I assume you have looked at the 1851 Bucks census and seen that John was a servant living with another family?Possible contenders for his parents are John and Esther? I have Youens that married my Pym family.Now,I know my cousin in Bucks met a lady in Wycombe library and they exchanged some details about the Youens family.I have our bit and probably somewhere along the line they are related.I will forward your message on to her and see if she still has details on the lady descended from the Youens family.I know she dosn`t go on line very often at the moment and she is not on the Bucks list,so maybe a while before she gets back to you. Regards Kate CHESTER --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 08/10/04

Prisoners admitted to Aylesbury Gaol in the 1870s. May be interesting to some people. I've found the brother of an ancestor doing 14 days for "Drunk and riotous" in 1871, aged 19. Maybe he was celebrating his birthday - he was sentenced not long afterwards. http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/bucks_prisoners/index.htm

I am looking for information about John YOUENS b 1838 in High Wycombe & am particularly interested in the marriage of his daughter, Adelina, to Charles CHALLIS. I would also be interested to know who John's father was. Any help appreciated. Clive Challis

Thanks to all who replied Paul

Hello, Some advice - I have just been given some details from a fellow BUTCHER/KING researcher. But I think they have made an error in a couple of places. The variation - Three of John Butcher & Ann Pennhill's children John Butcher bp 18/3/1821, Ann Butcher bp 19/12/1824 and Thomas Butcher bp 7/10/1827 all baptised in Whaddon. Now I believe that all three died young - John buried 21/3/1821, Ann buried 25/4/1826 and Thomas buried 11/10/1832 and from my notes written from the film I am reasonably confident in this. However I don't feel you can ever discount another researcher without proving it. This other researcher has John marrying Sarah Brown 12/3/1857, Ann marrying John Rothall, 28/4/1852 and Thomas marrying Caroline Steer. These three did not come to Australia when most of the rest of the family did. The films available for Whaddon do not go up this far for marriages. Has anybody sited parish registers and perhaps records BUTCHER details? Is there any way I can check these details? The GRO unfortunately only gives names so I could not prove in any way if they are these? There is also a query about the marriage of a Mary BUTCHER to William DOVER in Whaddon - time frame 1840's - 1850's. Thank you Pat

Many thanks, Eve. Where can I obtain a copy of 'Tracing Your Ancestors in Bucks'? Lizzie --- Eve McLaughlin <eve@varneys.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I have listed all chapel records of various kinds > which are held by the > County Archives in 'Tracing Your Ancestors in > Bucks'. The names are > there, in index version on the IGI/familysearch, and > I am working on > transcribing nonconformist records more fully. > > -- > Eve McLaughlin > > Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family > historians > Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

In message <20041021065426.58570.qmail@web86909.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, Elizabeth Allen <lizziecallen@yahoo.co.uk> writes >I've just discovered that my NASH ancestors from >Chesham were probably non conformists. > >Can anyone suggest any books or other resources that >would be useful in providing background information as >well as details about the whereabouts of the relevant I have listed all chapel records of various kinds which are held by the County Archives in 'Tracing Your Ancestors in Bucks'. The names are there, in index version on the IGI/familysearch, and I am working on transcribing nonconformist records more fully. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <001701c4b6ee$8aa5cd50$64134f51@MAIN>, Paul Hing <paul@wilbur ydream.freeserve.co.uk> writes >Hi All, >Does anyone know if there is a list of registration Districts online which >includes the towns and villiages covered by each? look at GENUKI and follow the links from the counties -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <000f01c4b6e5$7c022d60$0100a8c0@Main>, Roger Goodger <roger@goodger72.supanet.com> writes >Hi Folks > >Is anyone researching the surname of GIBBS in Winslow? > >If anyone has information on William GIBBS b.circ 1753 I would be >particularly interested in when he died or was buried at Winslow. His >first wife was Elizabeth Mansfield and he married his second wife, Silence >GOODGER, on 20th Feb 1914. Silence was recorded in the 1841 as Silence >"GOODGER" age 75 years ....not GIBBS. Her death certificate in 1845 has her >correctly entered as Silence GIBBS aged 77 years. Quite a lot of people - the family were prominent (and Robert Gibbs, historian of Aylesbury, and newspaper proprietor, his father the auctioneer are members. Big snag - they were nonconformist stalwarts, so not always recorded in parish registers. It is likely that Silence was an independent lady, who felt that she was entitled to stick to her maiden name if she so wished. It is just possible that the second marriage (in 1814 I presume) took place befofe the first wife died? However, i imagine that Silence was anything but Silent when it came to asserting herself. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Hello list. Is there anyone out there looking or working on the PAYNE families in Slough area?? Samuel and wife Sarah or William ? Every time I find my Ancestors they either live with or live next to the Payne family. I want to see if they are related or just friends who grew up together. Thanks, Alice USA

Would SKS be willing to share info or lookup Harriet RAYNER, Pauper, of Wooburn, b by approx. 1810 & John (s/o Joseph & Tamar) ANTHONY of Wycombe or High Wycombe, Papermaker b March 6, 1793 & their ill. ch. James Anthony b c Abt. March 30, 1828. He was bapt. in Wooburn Parish. I believe Harriet is the child of William Clark RAYNER (Sr.) b High Wycombe August 5, 1789 (of Wooburn when ch. born,) and possibly Harriet DALE b c December 24, 1791. I've found bapt./burial records for children of William Sr. & Harriet RAYNER. Not sure if Harriet is Harriet DALE of Broughton, Oxfordshire area. There is a marriage of people of these names recorded there. They had a son William Jr. who was b. Newton, Oxon in the 1871 Wooburn Green census record. This son William m. Sarah HAWKINS b Wooburn. William Clark RAYNER (Sr.) is the son of James & Sarah RAYNER. Have some of the other children for all these families mentioned.