Hi, Don't keep us in suspense, where and when did the marriage occur? :-)) Regards, Trish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Richards" <ricko_15@hotmail.com> To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:04 AM Subject: [BKM] Butcher/Dover marriage > Hi list, > > I received great news today. Gillian replied to my request for details of > the marriage of Mary BUTCHER to William DOVER, for which i am most > appreciative. > > I also asked for assistance as to when the Stock Lane school opened in > Whaddon, but being a dumb > "aussie" i wrote Sock Lane by mistake. > > Many thanks to you all > > Alan > Australia > > > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > Questions about the list administration? Contact the listowners: > Dave Carlsen - davidcarlsen@charter.net; Judith Young - Arkleside@btinternet.com >

Indeed he was - High Street East, Olney, 1851 census Samuel WARD aged 6 born Olney son of Henry WARD age 47 b Stagsden BDF, Dealer Eliza WARD age 43 b Mears Ashby NTH 4 other children age 5 to 16 b Olney, Niece Elizabeth GILLET 5m b Piddington NTH plus some other possible children about the place, e.g. Henry age 17 apprentice to Richard SOUL, Grocer. Only Ann STOCKLEY I see was aged 20, servant to the John TYRWHITT-DRAKE, Rector of Amersham. Maybe she wasn't born yet? Might be worth you investing in the BFHS 1851 census transcription, and the BGS 1861 census transcription out soon. Paul Arnold Ward wrote: >Greetings: > >My great-grandfather, Samuel Ward, is said to have been born on 8th March, 1844. He was a provision merchant who married Ann Stockley. > >My grandfather, William Stockley Ward was born in 1866 in Olney so it is possible that Samuel Ward may have been born in Bucks. > >Does anyone have any information that will help me to locate Samuel? And Ann? > >With my regards > >Arnold Ward > > >==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >View or download up to 20000 archive photos of Buckinghamshire from the Bucks County Council web site at: http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/photo_database > > > >

Thanks very much to those who helped me out on the school quest. The help given is invaluable to those like me who just fritter around on the edges. Gwyn

I am pursuing my paternal side of the family, Father, Percival 1907-1971, Grandfather, John Frederick born 1870, no death date, G.Grandfather, Thomas Lawson Thorburn, born 1837, no death date. If anyone has any information, I would be very grateful. Thanks, in advance. Anne

Looking for information on the HIRONS family of Chetwode, in particular Thomas HIRONS who married Alice ROADS in 1765 and had the following children: Elizabeth John Thomas William Charles Emanuel Alice Many thanks Doug Stewart

In message <01b701c4bd6c$5f269c20$2c3d8b90@hppav>, Tina Connell <tcconnell@bigpond.com> writes >Hi, >I seem to be stuck on a couple of things in particular to do with my family >which I think finding them on the 1861 census would really help and I just >wondered if anybody could please tell me if there is anywhere where you can >possibly buy the 1861 census for Buckinghamshire at the moment or if any record >office might possibly hold a copy whereby I might possibly be able to pay a >researcher to do a look up for me please? The 1861 census is being processed at the moment and should be out on CD before too long, from Bucks Genealogical Society. We will announce when this is ready. Until then, you would need a precise location. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <028d01c4bcea$487039a0$c63d8b90@hppav>, Tina Connell <tcconnell@bigpond.com> writes >Hi, >I have a grandmother on the 1851 census who is listed as receiving parish relief >and as this is the first time that I have seen this I wondered if I could please >ask for some advice as to whether I would be able to learn anything else about >this or about her from possible surviving records of this? Up to 1834, yes. After 1834. relief was actually in the hands of the Board of Gardians, and all paupers were supposed to go into the workhouse of the Union of parishes. However, it was impractical to build Houses big enough to cope with surges, and in practice, many people were still given tiny allowances in their homes. It was done through a Relieving Offcier who lived in or close to the parish., so as far as the paupers were concerned, it looked just the same as the old parish-based handouts. In Bucks there are very few surving records of the early workhouses and Guardians, except some for the Winslow Union and the Amersham Union.Horton (presumably the South Bucks one, not the mid/eastern one) is not covered. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <BAY24-F25zQtO9vXLsd000433c8@hotmail.com>, Alison PAGE <alisonpage74@hotmail.com> writes >Hi All, > >Does anyone know what is available at the Buckinghamshire Archives? How is >it different from the Local Studies centre? It is now the same thing - The Centre for Bucks Studies, with an outer section containing all material on microforms or CD (censuses, newspapers, registers and so much more) and printed books; the inner section, the Archives, for which you need a Reader's Ticket, has manuscript material like wills, manorial records, Quarter sessions, estate papers, maps etc. Basic details are listed on the bucckscc.gov.uk / archives website You could do with Tracing your Ancestors in Bucks -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi, Can I suggest a book that is relevant to Chesham? Its called "Eva's Story - Chesham since the turn of the century" By Eva Rance. ISBN 1-871199-85-9 Look in your local library for it, has local Chesham history information in it Kind regards Kirsten Hawkes Australia -----Original Message----- From: Gwyn Jones [mailto:gwyn.gjones@ntlworld.com] Sent: Friday, 29 October 2004 6:07 PM To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BKM] Chesham Goodmorning, I wonder if anyone would be willing to take a guess at which school a child would attend somewhere around the 1920 / 30 sort of time if they lived at George Street, Chesham or possibly point me in the right direction. Also are there any records available for the Bucks Laundry, Chesham? Any information would be great. Thanks Gwyn ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== To view recent downloadable photos of Bucks churches and village scenes, courtesy of Peter and Kevin Quick, visit: http://www.countyviews.com

Hello Bruce There are a few TOMPKINS appearing briefly in my husband's family tree from Pitstone in Bucks from the middle to late 1700s. Have a look at them on www.gencircles.com/users/tuatara/2. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce A. Smith" <brucesmith@cox.net> To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:16 AM Subject: [BKM] TOMKINS > Hello List, > > Having just subscribed to this list > > I have followed the TOMKINS line out Goldington, Beds in to Bucks. > > John TOMKINS married Anne CHAMPMAN and James TOMKINS married Elizabeth > CHAMPMAN in Goldington about 1804. The 1851 census for Goldington states > that John was born in BKM. I dont know if that is the county or town. > > If anyone has come across these folks I would be pleased to hear from you. > > Regards > Bruce A Smith > Virginia Beach US > > > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > Advertising for financial gain is not permitted on this List, although subscribers may include a link to their website in their signature. >

Stepping Stones, S&N/British Data Archive, etc. Loads of 'em! List of producers - http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/ http://www.twrcomputing.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm - I'm not sure whose they're selling http://www.stepping-stones.co.uk/index.cfm http://www.britishdataarchive.com/ And Gordon Beavington out in Canada, who's more or less a one-man operation as far as I know, and who seems to specialise in the areas where his own ancestors were from, i.e. Gloucestershire & surrounding counties. www.mycensuses.com ? Paul long.live.rock@comcast.net wrote: >Paul, > >That's because I didn't know that! :-) > >Where are these 1841 and 1871 CDs available from? Is it Stepping Stones? > >I should also have added that portions of the 1871 census are already available by subscription to Ancestry.co.uk, but as of this writing Bucks and Oxon are not yet included, nor do they appear on the "Coming Soon" list of counties. I am trying to be patient in waiting for them to appear. :-) > >Toni > > > ><pauljirving@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > >>Toni, >> >>you forgot to mention that 1841 & 1871 (at least - maybe 1861 by now) are >>available on CD, but only as non-indexed images of the original census. Good for >>checking a transcription against the original, but not easy to search. >> >>Paul >> >> >> > > >==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >To view recent downloadable photos of Bucks churches and village scenes, courtesy of Peter and Kevin Quick, visit: >http://www.countyviews.com > > > >

Hi, I seem to be stuck on a couple of things in particular to do with my family which I think finding them on the 1861 census would really help and I just wondered if anybody could please tell me if there is anywhere where you can possibly buy the 1861 census for Buckinghamshire at the moment or if any record office might possibly hold a copy whereby I might possibly be able to pay a researcher to do a look up for me please? Thankyou very much for your kind advice. Kind regards, Tina Connell

Paul, That's because I didn't know that! :-) Where are these 1841 and 1871 CDs available from? Is it Stepping Stones? I should also have added that portions of the 1871 census are already available by subscription to Ancestry.co.uk, but as of this writing Bucks and Oxon are not yet included, nor do they appear on the "Coming Soon" list of counties. I am trying to be patient in waiting for them to appear. :-) Toni <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Toni, > > you forgot to mention that 1841 & 1871 (at least - maybe 1861 by now) are > available on CD, but only as non-indexed images of the original census. Good for > checking a transcription against the original, but not easy to search. > > Paul >

Goodmorning, I wonder if anyone would be willing to take a guess at which school a child would attend somewhere around the 1920 / 30 sort of time if they lived at George Street, Chesham or possibly point me in the right direction. Also are there any records available for the Bucks Laundry, Chesham? Any information would be great. Thanks Gwyn

Toni, you forgot to mention that 1841 & 1871 (at least - maybe 1861 by now) are available on CD, but only as non-indexed images of the original census. Good for checking a transcription against the original, but not easy to search. Paul > > From: long.live.rock@comcast.net > Date: 2004/10/29 Fri AM 04:24:28 GMT > To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BKM] Buckinghamshire 1861 census question > ... > Currently, the censuses already indexed and available on CD-Rom are 1851 and 1891. 1891 and 1901 are also available on a subscription and pay-per-view basis. For any other years, you will have to go to a record office which has the original census returns on microfilm (this will vary depending on where you live) and go through them the old-fashioned way - family by family, page by page. > > Hope this helps. > > Toni Skidmore > Tingewick list Co-Admin > Chicago, USA > Researching: CLIFFORD/CLIFTON, HOLLAND, DEAN(E), and NOQUET in Bucks ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

Tina, See the below message from the Bucks 1861 Census Project Coordinator, Kevin Quick, which appeared on this list just a few days ago. This should answer your question as to why you've had no replies to your 1861 census queries. But it will not be much longer now! Currently, the censuses already indexed and available on CD-Rom are 1851 and 1891. 1891 and 1901 are also available on a subscription and pay-per-view basis. For any other years, you will have to go to a record office which has the original census returns on microfilm (this will vary depending on where you live) and go through them the old-fashioned way - family by family, page by page. Hope this helps. Toni Skidmore Tingewick list Co-Admin Chicago, USA Researching: CLIFFORD/CLIFTON, HOLLAND, DEAN(E), and NOQUET in Bucks -----Original Message----- From: Kevin A. Quick [mailto:k.a.quick@open.ac.uk] Sent: 25 October 2004 11:08 To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKM] Bucks 1861 census project Hello Jane > >Is there any news yet of when we will receive our pre-ordered CD-ROMs??? >Not 'pushing' at all, just hoping I haven't been forgotten! No you have not been forgotten. The short answer is I don't have a definitive date when the CD-ROMs will be ready, but we are hoping it will not be too long now, so I can only request that people are patient for a while longer - I am personally very keen to see the end product from all the hard work we have put into this. As members of this list are probably aware, we completed the transcription and checking stages of the project some months back, and at that point all the data was passed over to the software company which is responsible for creating the CD-ROMs - the completion is now entirely in their hands. They have to take the census data and import it into their search engine software - the search engine is superb, allowing mapping of data and complex searches etc. but to do this requires the porting of the data (as provided by the BGS) to the format of the CD database and the creation extra relational indexes etc. and its this process which is being worked on. Regards Kevin Quick Tina wrote: > Hi, > I seem to be stuck on a couple of things in particular to do with my family > which I think finding them on the 1861 census would really help and I just > wondered if anybody could please tell me if there is anywhere where you can > possibly buy the 1861 census for Buckinghamshire at the moment or if any record > office might possibly hold a copy whereby I might possibly be able to pay a > researcher to do a look up for me please? > Thankyou very much for your kind advice. > Kind regards, Tina Connell

Hi, I was wondering if anybody might possibly have access to any of the parish records from Colnbrook at all please and might possibly be able to do a look up for me at all please? I am hoping to learn any information at all possible about a man named Joseph DEAN who was born in Colnbrook in approx.1804-1808 and I am hoping baptised there too. I would be so grateful for any help that anybody might please be able to give me. Thankyou so very much in advance. Kind regards, Tina Connell

Hi, I was wondering if anyone might please have access to the 1861 census at all and might please be able to do a look up for me at all please for a family with the surname DEAN? I am hoping to learn some more about a Joseph DEAN who would have been approx. 63 years old in 1861 and an Agricultural Labourer or Shepherd, born in Horton, Buckinghamshire or possibly Colnbrook. I believe he may have also been living in Horton with his family if they were still at home and would love to learn some more about them and in particular his wifes name if at all possible which I am unsure of at the moment from previous censuses. I have a Joseph Dean kindly from the 1841 census and 1851 which I know is definitely my grandfather but a man with the exact same name and age in the 1881 census has left me unsure about whether this is still the grandpa later in his life just due to a slightly different birth place although nearby and wife's name to what was on the 1841 census and I am just trying so hard to try and establish whether this is still my grandpa so this would really help me so much. If anybody might please be able to me at all I would be so very grateful. Thankyou so very much in advance. Kindest regards, Tina Connell

Hi, I have a grandmother on the 1851 census who is listed as receiving parish relief and as this is the first time that I have seen this I wondered if I could please ask for some advice as to whether I would be able to learn anything else about this or about her from possible surviving records of this? I wondered if there would be surviving records and if anyone might please be able to advise me about how I might go about looking them up at all please? Her name was Maria DEAN and she is written as being 83 years old I believe in the 1851 census and living with family in Horton. If anybody might please be able to offer me any advice I would be very grateful. Thankyou very much in advance. Kind regards, Tina Connell

In Sunday's (possibly Monday's) Telegraph there was a feature about a new website of interest to local historians and genealogists. Unfortunately the paper was binned before I could note down the URL. Did any other lister by chance note this feature? Richard