So sorry, as most of you picked, I meant 1891 census not 1991! Thank you to those that answered my request for a lookup for Elizabeth Ann Johnson in 1891 census, it appears she is not there. So if anyone has an Elizabeth Ann Johnson on their files marrying between 1881 and 1891, I would be most interested. Many thanks, Norma Johnson

My great-uncle Bob Tofield shortly before he died told me about his friends Rees REES and James JAMES who were Welsh drovers who then got farms in north Bucks at Adstock and Padbury in the late 1800s. Once he went back with them to their farm in Carmathenshire. I have recently got curious about these people. They are no relation to me. Does anyone know anything about them? Neil REES Bucks

Could some kind person look up the 1991 census to see if there is an Elizabeth Ann Johnson who was born 1848 in Lavendon, have her on the 1881 census, dressmaker, single, living Lavendon. Many thanks, Norma Johnson

>What we know: > >William Bowler; Bachelor >Mary XXXXX, Spinster the missing surname,. for bride and witnesas is PUSEY -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi John The BEST site for the era you are interested in is Roger Vaughan's at http://www.rogerco.freeserve.co.uk/ Best of luck Pat in Western Australia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 1/11/2004

Many thanks Jenny My friend will be very pleased. Great list - one enquiry and not only the exact answer (surname) but a census extract too (thanks again, Paul). -- Best regards, Peter McNulty peter@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide (especially Hants) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny" <catsandme@cathouse22.fsnet.co.uk> To: "Peter McNulty" <peter@sparshott.org.uk> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Bowler & wife - High Wycombe 1835 > Hi Peter > > >From High Wycombe transcripts: > > 21-May 1835 William X Bowler otp b & Mary Pusey OTP s > Witnesses: Thomas X Pusey, Hughendon Saray X Pusey Hughendon > > Jenny > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter McNulty" <peter@sparshott.org.uk> > To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 10:54 PM > Subject: Re: [BKM] Bowler & wife - High Wycombe 1835 > > > > Hi Paul > > > > Thanks for your reply > > > > Looks like the family; I'll check out the Newell name. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Irving" <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> > > To: "Peter McNulty" <peter@sparshott.org.uk> > > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [BKM] Bowler & wife - High Wycombe 1835 > > > > > > > Might this be her? > > > > > > Mary BOWLER 37 wid b West Wycombe Lacemaker > > > Children - > > > John 15 Chairmaker b Hughenden > > > Sarah 13 Scholar b High Wycombe > > > Ann 10 do do > > > William 8 do do > > > Henry 5 do do > > > Visitor Mary NEWEL 18 Milliner b West Wycombe (maybe a clue?) > > > > > > The Bucks FHS may have transcribed it. Try their website at > > > www.bucksfhs.org.uk. They do look-ups. Or the Bucks Genealogical Soc. at > > > www.bucksgs.org.uk > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Peter McNulty wrote: > > > > > > >Hi, I'm new to this list for this reason: > > > > > > > >I am helping a friend identify a couple that married in High Wycombe. Of > > course, she didn't note all of the detail (like the church name for example) > > but I wondered if there is a listing of marriage partners/marriage > > banns/Bishop's Transcripts for the period covering 1835?

The Burcott LOdge that i am interested in was owned by the Vallentine family and then bought by William Page before being sold on to a third party. It is in Burcott. Does that give any more clues? Fingers crossed ALison

Some Bucks marriage strays found while on a hunt for Northants strays. Married in Radley, Warwickshire John SANDERS of Buckingham to Mary BARNES otp by banns 3 Dec 1782 George COOK of Ailsbury, Bucks to Elizabeth HUNT of Radway 28 Mar 1743 Joseph GRANTHAM of Chitwood, Bucks to Sarah DUCKET of Farmborough If you have any Northants ancestors - there are 3,000 plus marriage strays on line at http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk/ Cheers Marilyn British Columbia

Dear List - Thanks to a kind lister who sent me a 1851 census with Sarah HAWTHORN (widow of schoolmaster) and daughter Ann - I have found a family connection with the WEBB family of Burnham. I knew my grGrandmother Rebecca HAWTHORN (DICKSON) had a sister - a Mrs. Webb - who had several children but I did not know her first name. When I checked out Ann HAWTHORN in the LDS website - I found she had indeed married a WEBB (George Jr.) and one of her children was called George Hamlet WEBB. Since my Gr Grandmother Rebecca HAWTHORN (DICKSON)'s father's name was also Hamlet (Henry HAWTHORN), I am sure this must be the same family, Hamlet being such an unusual first name. I noticed in the archives that there are some WEBB listers. If there is a descendant of Ann WEBB on the list - did you know anything about /or have any further information about her sister Rebecca? In family letters it was mentioned that Ann was a mid-wife. I also have papers (with her signature) that connect a Mrs. WEBB (Ann or a relation?) with my GrGrUncle in the owning of property in Kildare, Ireland that was rented out to tennants. If this information relates to anyone on the list -or anyone has more information in this connection, I would like very much to hear from you. Yours sincerely Mary Margaret

In message <BAY24-F2167A696807F2917974339C9BB0@phx.gbl>, Alison PAGE <alisonpage74@hotmail.com> writes >Hi there, > >Does anybody know any information about the history or owners of Brcott >Lodge Farm more than one place has been called Burcott Lodge at different times (as I found when going to visit the owner of one some years back). The one I really wanted has been owned by the Adams family of farmers for some centuries. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi Paul Thanks for your reply Looks like the family; I'll check out the Newell name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Irving" <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> To: "Peter McNulty" <peter@sparshott.org.uk> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Bowler & wife - High Wycombe 1835 > Might this be her? > > Mary BOWLER 37 wid b West Wycombe Lacemaker > Children - > John 15 Chairmaker b Hughenden > Sarah 13 Scholar b High Wycombe > Ann 10 do do > William 8 do do > Henry 5 do do > Visitor Mary NEWEL 18 Milliner b West Wycombe (maybe a clue?) > > The Bucks FHS may have transcribed it. Try their website at > www.bucksfhs.org.uk. They do look-ups. Or the Bucks Genealogical Soc. at > www.bucksgs.org.uk > > Paul > > Peter McNulty wrote: > > >Hi, I'm new to this list for this reason: > > > >I am helping a friend identify a couple that married in High Wycombe. Of course, she didn't note all of the detail (like the church name for example) but I wondered if there is a listing of marriage partners/marriage banns/Bishop's Transcripts for the period covering 1835? > > > >I have a copy of the marriage entry itself copied from the fiche but we can't read the wife's maiden name. > > > >What we know: > > > >William Bowler; Bachelor > >Mary XXXXX, Spinster > >married in this Church (I'm assuming the main High Wycombe Church) by Banns > >31st May 1835 by me: XXXX Williams, Curate > > > >solemnized: William Bowler his mark Sarah XXXXX her Mark > > > >Witnesses: Thomas XXXXX his mark Sarah XXXXX her mark > > > >Any pointers would be useful. > > > > > >==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe, send message to: > >bucks-l-request@rootsweb.com or bucks-d-request@rootsweb.com > >with the word 'unsubscribe' in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > >

Hello Listers, Looking for marriage or death of Elizabeth Ann JOHNSON born 1848 Lavendon, unmarried at 33 in 1881 census, occupation dressmaker, still in Lavendon. There are so many Elizabeth Johnson's I am having great difficulty finding her. Any help or ideas on where to look next, greatly appreciated. Regards, Norma Johnson in New Zealand

Sorry, sent the last email without my signature -- Best regards, Peter McNulty peter@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide (especially Hants)

Hi, I'm new to this list for this reason: I am helping a friend identify a couple that married in High Wycombe. Of course, she didn't note all of the detail (like the church name for example) but I wondered if there is a listing of marriage partners/marriage banns/Bishop's Transcripts for the period covering 1835? I have a copy of the marriage entry itself copied from the fiche but we can't read the wife's maiden name. What we know: William Bowler; Bachelor Mary XXXXX, Spinster married in this Church (I'm assuming the main High Wycombe Church) by Banns 31st May 1835 by me: XXXX Williams, Curate solemnized: William Bowler his mark Sarah XXXXX her Mark Witnesses: Thomas XXXXX his mark Sarah XXXXX her mark Any pointers would be useful.

Hi l am researching my family and links to these families. Would anyone have a connection to the following people. 1. Thomas Mosden m Mary Buckland ( widow ) Ickford 29th Oct 1765 Mary died Ickford 19th September 1769. Mary's 1st husband may have been a John Buckland who was buried Ickford 15th April 1763. 2. Thomas Mosden then remarried an Elizabeth Matthews on 4th Dec 1769. They had 2x children l can locate in Ickford Thomas bapt 27 dec 1770 Ickford & Elizabeth bapt 7 Jan 1773. Elizabeth the daughter married John Oliver 17 April 1795. John was from the parish of Waterstock Oxf. 3. John Oliver was a cousin to a Thomas Briaris and l believe the link to these people are through the female line of Elizabeth Mosden nee Matthews ?? Oliver's & Briaris's seem to have jumped backwards and forwards betwwen Bucks & Oxf. on a semi regular basis. l have also been given information which may link Mary Mosden to a Winter family of Buckingham. Hope someone may be researching one of these families. Would love to hear from you. Janet Melbourne, Australia

Hi there, Does anybody know any information about the history or owners of Brcott Lodge Farm or Oxley farm Lodge in WIng? ALison

Dear List, I have just joined this list with the hope that I can find out some more information about the HAWTHORN family residing in Burnham in 1825. (Do not know how long they lived there).I believe Hamlet H. Hawthorn was a teacher - perhaps why he was living in Burnham. I am particularly interested in Rebecca Halsey HAWTHORN who married my GrGrandfather (James Henry Dickson) in Dublin Dec. 1858. Rebecca Halsey HAWTHORN Bapt: 27 Mar. 1825 Burnham, Bucks Dau. of: Hamlet Henry Hawthorn and Sarah (FAIRBURN ?) M.: Dec. 1858 Dublin Ireland Hamlet Henry HAWTHORN B. 13 Nov. 1782 Bapt: 26 Jan, 1783- St-Mary's , Marylebone, London son of: Ralph HAWTHORN & Sarah HALSEY M.: 19 May 1781- St Botolph Without Aldershot, London I have searched the archives and found only one Hawthorn mention (not mine) nor does this name appear on the Bucks surname list. I have seen many listings of names by list members from a number of different Census lists (saw no HAWTHORNS) and mention of Census available on CDs. I don't suppose there are any from back that far (1825). I suppose baptismal records would be my best source. I am wondering what would be my best approach to find out more about this family with the only information available that which I have listed above. What sources are available online that I might search and would there be anyone who has access to any listings that I might locate them on? Would anyone know the names of Churches and Schools in Burnham 1825? Any information or advice would be very much appreciated. Yours sincerely Mary Margaret

In message <20041127001441.71763.qmail@web86602.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>, SHEILA REYNOLDS <sheila.reynolds1@btinternet.com> writes > >Can any one tell me if a farm bailiff had to be able to read and write in the >1870s? Someone would have to keep the farm accounts for the owner. The problem is that 'bailiff' was anything from a farm foreman, who organised the workers to plough and reap. with a resident (maybe widowed or elderly) farmer who handled the paperworik, to a proper bailiff, a man left in sole charge of a farm for an absent owner, who would certainly have had to communicate with him/her in writing. > >Was Henry trying to make out he was better then the family he was marring into? maybe so - or maybe his wife could do the writing? -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi Sheila From Monks Risborough baptism transcripts: 29 Dec 1816 Hannah KING John & Sarah, lab 31 May 1818 Rebecca KING John & Sarah, lab Couldn't see any more children to this couple. This could be their marriage, from transcript 16 Oct 1815 John KING & Sarah DEVENING banns Eliz NEIGHBOUR, Jesse EAST both of Monks R. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHEILA REYNOLDS" <sheila.reynolds1@btinternet.com> To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:12 AM Subject: [BKM] Which Risborough? > > Hi all. > > I have just knock down one of my brick walls, so I on the hunt for any info on the king family. > > In all the census they just put down Risborough, so I just don’t know which Risborough my 2 x grt gr mother came from. > > So I am looking for Hannah KING born c 1820 in Risborough, Father John KING. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Sheila. > > > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > To search the BUCKS list message archives, go to: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=BUCKS > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.796 / Virus Database: 540 - Release Date: 13/11/04

Can any one tell me if a farm bailiff had to be able to read and write in the 1870s? My grt gr father put down on his marriage cert in 1874 that his father was farm bailiff, I know he could not write as he sign his marriages register with his mark and also when registering the birth of one of his children, he did the same thing. Was Henry trying to make out he was better then the family he was marring into? Sheila.