Does anyone know where I could find a passenger list for english ship that sank in 1882? The ship was called the RMS Duoro and was discovered about 1982. It was carrying a good amount of gold coins, dust, bars and diamonds. My g-grandfather is said to have been a passenger on this ship. I'm looking to confirm this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Edgar ===== Edgar H Cross View My Genealogy Research and Guide at http://www.ehcross.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Jon No Carrie RUSH in Buckinghamshire in 1871 (apart from a Caroline RUSH age 26) in Ancestry.com. Her name could be mistranscribed, but without further information eg place of birth/possible locations/names of parents or other family members I can't try more obscure search tricks. Regards Alex in Auckland NZ --- Jon Whiting <genealogy@jon-whiting.me.uk> wrote: > Could anyone please look up on the 1871 census for > Carrie RUSH, age 10, and > her siblings. > > Thanks > > Jon Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

1851 Census H107 1505 Page 1256 Lansdowne Place, St Johns Hackney, London John H. SMITH, age 38, Merchant Silk, born Buckingham Eliza SMITH, wife, age 40, born Hertfordshire Frederick A. SMITH, son, age 16, Ironmonger, born London Middlesex Arthur G. SMITH, son, age 8, born London Middlesex Emmeline E. SMITH, dau, age 7, born London Middlesex Charles A. SMITH, son, age 6, born London Middlesex Albert H. SMITH, son, age 4, born London Middlesex Victoria SMITH, dau, age 3, born London Middlesex Ann SMITH, dau, age 1, born London Middlesex Mary Ann MILLS, unmarried, age 31, Servant, born Edmonton, Middlesex Anne LUCAS, unmarried, age 21, Servant, born Cheshunt, Herts Sarah STREET, unmarried, age 26, Servant, born cannot read ....ham Suffolk Caroline LUCAS, age 17, Servant, born Chigwell, Essex Linda Tasmania, Australia

For listers without easy access to 1891 census, here are some strays not yet on FreeCEN, all in Eckington DBY, transcribed from images of original pages at Ancestry. My apologies, I didn't record actual refs (RG12/ etc) but can look them up on request. W = worker; e = employer; n = neither By the way, I haven't finished transcribing Eckington yet (it's a big place in 1891), so there may be more later. Looks like there was a small migration of Clifton and Sherington families. Celia Renshaw In Chesterfield UK __________________________________________________ 4 Church Street Henry Charles PENN Head M 38 M Coal Miner w Linford BKM Sarah PENN Wife M 38 F Pensennit? STS Henry Charles PENN Son S 17 M Coal Miner w Momber Lane STS Thomas PENN Son 12 M Scholar North Staveley YKS Sarah PENN Dau 10 F Scholar Eckington DBY Walter PENN Son 8 M Scholar Eckington DBY Minnie PENN Dau 6 M Scholar Eckington DBY Lillie PENN Dau 4 F Scholar Eckington DBY 72 Church Street Thomas EGERTON Head M 43 M Plumber w Streatham MDX Emily EGERTON Wife M 37 F Upton cum Chalvey BKM 13 Fenton Street Noah BARKER Head S 32 M Coal Miner w Eckington DBY Eliza CROUCH House Keeper M 36 F Clifton BKM Harry CROUCH Son S 14 M Pony Driver (Colliery) w Stoney? BKM Mary E CROUCH Dau S 8 F Scholar Eckington DBY Frederick B CROUCH Son S 5 M Scholar Eckington DBY William J CROUCH Son S 3 M Eckington DBY 39 Fenton Street Joel PEARSON Head M 24 M Coal Miner w Stoney or Henley BKM Euphemia PEARSON Wife M 22 F Eckington DBY Elizabeth PEARSON Dau S 4 F Eckington DBY Agnes PEARSON Dau S 2 F Eckington DBY Addy E PEARSON Dau S 6m M Eckington DBY 41 Fenton Street Charles COLEMAN Head M 22 M Coal Miner w Sherington BKM Eliza COLEMAN Wife M 30 F Woodside WOR Charles E COLEMAN Son 4m M Eckington DBY 47 Fenton Street William COLEMAN Head M 55 M Colliery Labourer w Sherington BKM Eliza COLEMAN Wife M 55 F Sherington BKM Henry COLEMAN Son S 29 M Coal Miner w Sherington BKM Sarah COLEMAN Dau S 19 F Sherington BKM 61 Fenton Street William PEARSON Head M 65 M Labourer Colliery w Clifton BKM Rebecca PEARSON Wife M 59 F Clifton BKM James PEARSON Son S 28 M Coal Miner w Clifton BKM Arthur A PEARSON Son S 18 M Coal Miner w Clifton BKM 61 Fenton Street (same address as above) Joseph GREAVES Head M 28 M Coal Miner w Eckington DBY Ellen GREAVES Wife M 22 F Clifton BKM Arthur A GREAVES Son under 1m M Eckington DBY Mary MALLINDER Serv S 14 F General Servant w Eckington DBY Plumbly Farm, Mosborough, Eckington Eliza COOK Head W 59 F Farmer BKM Frank SKELTON Son S 27 M Farmers Son w Sheffield YKS John F SKELTON Son S 24 M Butcher w Sheffield YKS Tom L SKELTON Son S 22 M Coal Miner w Sheffield YKS Arthur SKELTON Son S 19 M Coal Miner w Sheffield YKS John BULIFANT Serv S 17 M Farm Labourer w Ranskill NTT Sarah E LINDLEY Niece S 17 F General Servant Domestic Manchester LAN

Many thanks to those who replied about Carrie RUSH and sent images. I have now managed to link her to the correct family. Regards Jon

1851 Census H107 1505 Page 1115 16 Bay Street, Hackney, Dalston, London Henry F. WILLIAMS, age 37, Inland Revenue Office, born Little Messenden, Bucks Martha WILLIAMS, wife, age 35, born Lapiston, Suffolk Harriet M. WILLIAMS, dau, age 12, scholar, born Cambridge, Cambridgeshire Edward WILLIAMS, son, age 10, born Portsea, Hampshire Henry WILLIAMS, son, age 6, scholar, born Portsea, Hampshire Sarah WILLIAMS, dau, age 2, scholar, born Chichester, Sussex William F. WILLIAMS, son, age 8 months, born Dalston, Middlesex Lydia CHEADLE, unmarried, age 14, House Servant, born Stedham, Sussex Linda Tasmania, Australia

1851 Census H107 1505 Page 1060 8 Park Road, St Johns Hackney, Dalston, London Esther HUNT, unmarried, age 18, House Servant, born Wingrave, Bucks Linda Tasmania, Australia

Could anyone please look up on the 1871 census for Carrie RUSH, age 10, and her siblings. Thanks Jon

Hi, Listing again the names I am searching for in Buckinghamshire: HARVEY, Phoebe, born in 1790s in Brill, married George Jackman in Hampstead (haven't yet found her baptism) JACKMAN, William, and his wife PIDDINGTON, Annie - Cuddington, Haddenham - 1800s (haven't found Annie's baptism, or their marriage) PIDDINGTON, Emma and parents PIDDINGTON, William & Elizabeth Cuddington, 1800s (haven't found their baptism) Love to hear from any descendants or from anyone who can maybe help me with some look-ups of parish records etc. Many thanks Ally McRae

My GARDNER family started out in Wycombe as papermakers, later moved to the West Drayton area and then to Egham to work in the linoleum factory there. Happy hunting! Diana Robinson Now in Rochester, NY, USA -----Original Message----- From: Eve McLaughlin [mailto:eve@varneys.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:54 AM To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKM] Rag sorter In message <6b.3f498176.2f495d8f@aol.com>, Microfish7@aol.com writes >Dear Cousins, > >In 1851 census, Flackwell Heath, Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, my ancestor Thomas >Wheeler is listed as a Papermaker. His grandson: a Rag sorter. I had read >(and seen at the University of Iowa a demonstration of some paper-making >techniques) about paper-making but wonder if anyone on the list can suggest >books or >articles on the process as it pertains to mid-19th century Bucks. A man called John Mayes wrote a number of articles and monographs on the papermaking industry and Wycombe (where there were at one time around twenty mills along the little River Wye). I am not sure these were published in book form (or if they were, whether the book is accessible outside Wycombe Library and the British Library and other copyright libraries). There would also have been a slim but very useful volume in the ?Benn series on various industries. It was certainly an important local trade, with many rag sorters (usually females, children or elderly men) providing the raw material which was shredded and pulped, then spread out to be rolled into a homogenous whole (probably what you have seen). The Wycombe paper mills were severely by the early introduction of machinery elsewhere, and set back by the machine-breaking riots of 1830 in the area. One thing to note is that many papermakers, made jobless by the trade depression, went off first to the Kentish mills at St Mary Cray, Foots Cray etc, and later to the flourishing mills at Alton, Hampshire, from which some ret8urned when trade picked up in Wycombe, though others stay put. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society ______________________________

>> >> Can anyone tell me the name of the public house in Whitchurch in >> 1851....I believe it was situated on the High Street. In 1851 George >> CHESHIRE is described as a Victualler, his address is given as High >> Street, Whitchurch. Well, there is one called The Priory Hotel now (70-72 High St), but I feel sure there is another with a more pub-like name (Red Lion, Three Bells , Swan etc opposite The Firs, but I can't track it down at the moment in the phone directory. Been there, too, for a business lunch, and very agreeable. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Tezz.... > Can anyone tell me the name of the public house in Whitchurch in 1851....I > believe it was situated on the High Street. In 1851 George CHESHIRE is > described as a Victualler, his address is given as High Street, Whitchurch. In 1883, according to the Ordnance Survey map, there was only on pub in Whitchurch, The Swan, nowadays called The White Swan at No.10 High Street. (I find it hard to believe there were not several more.) The Swan was at the SE end of the High Street opposite a big house called The Firs and close to an area called Little London. If you study adjacent entries in the census you should be able to confirm that this is the right one. For a map go to www.old-maps.co.uk , search for co-ordinates 480026,220753 and then select "Enlarged View". Mike the Map Man

You need to look at a directory. Start with the Digital Library of Historical Directories at Leicester University. http://www.historicaldirectories.org/ Musson & Cravens Commercial Directory of Buckinghamshire & Windsor, 1853, is probably your best bet. I expect it'll list all inns, & some beerhouses. I've found ancestors in it, e.g. a "beer retailer & boat owner, Walton St" in Aylesbury & a "market gardener & beer retailer", in Stone, but neither had a named premises, so be prepared for that possibility. Paul Family History wrote: > Hi > > Can anyone tell me the name of the public house in Whitchurch in > 1851....I believe it was situated on the High Street. In 1851 George > CHESHIRE is described as a Victualler, his address is given as High > Street, Whitchurch. > > Living with him is his widowed sister Hannah TOMPKINS > > Many thanks indeed > > Kind regards > > Tezz > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! > http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ > > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > To view recent downloadable photos of Bucks churches and village > scenes, courtesy of Peter and Kevin Quick, visit: > http://www.countyviews.com > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 18/02/05

Hi Can anyone tell me the name of the public house in Whitchurch in 1851....I believe it was situated on the High Street. In 1851 George CHESHIRE is described as a Victualler, his address is given as High Street, Whitchurch. Living with him is his widowed sister Hannah TOMPKINS Many thanks indeed Kind regards Tezz _________________________________________________________________ Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/

These days the White Swan and the White Horse are in the High Street. Regards, Chris Westmoreland > -----Original Message----- > From: Eve McLaughlin [mailto:eve@varneys.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 20 February 2005 10:12 > To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BKM] PH in Whitchurch 1851 > > > >> > >> Can anyone tell me the name of the public house in Whitchurch in > >> 1851....I believe it was situated on the High Street. In 1851 George > >> CHESHIRE is described as a Victualler, his address is given as High > >> Street, Whitchurch. > Well, there is one called The Priory Hotel now (70-72 High St), but I > feel sure there is another with a more pub-like name (Red Lion, Three > Bells , Swan etc opposite The Firs, but I can't track it down at the > moment in the phone directory. Been there, too, for a business lunch, > and very agreeable. > > -- > Eve McLaughlin > > Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians > Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society > > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > To view recent downloadable photos of Bucks churches and village scenes, > courtesy of Peter and Kevin Quick, visit: > http://www.countyviews.com

In a message dated 20/02/2005 03:27:37 GMT Standard Time, Microfish7@aol.com writes: if anyone on the list can suggest books or articles on the process as it pertains to mid-19th century Bucks. Dear Al, If you don't have success with your query on this list, you could try posting it on the specialist papermakers list as follows. _PAPER-MILLS-MAKERS-L-request@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:PAPER-MILLS-MAKERS-L-request@rootsweb.com) Regards, Ian

In message <6b.3f498176.2f495d8f@aol.com>, Microfish7@aol.com writes >Dear Cousins, > >In 1851 census, Flackwell Heath, Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, my ancestor Thomas >Wheeler is listed as a Papermaker. His grandson: a Rag sorter. I had read >(and seen at the University of Iowa a demonstration of some paper-making >techniques) about paper-making but wonder if anyone on the list can suggest >books or >articles on the process as it pertains to mid-19th century Bucks. A man called John Mayes wrote a number of articles and monographs on the papermaking industry and Wycombe (where there were at one time around twenty mills along the little River Wye). I am not sure these were published in book form (or if they were, whether the book is accessible outside Wycombe Library and the British Library and other copyright libraries). There would also have been a slim but very useful volume in the ?Benn series on various industries. It was certainly an important local trade, with many rag sorters (usually females, children or elderly men) providing the raw material which was shredded and pulped, then spread out to be rolled into a homogenous whole (probably what you have seen). The Wycombe paper mills were severely by the early introduction of machinery elsewhere, and set back by the machine-breaking riots of 1830 in the area. One thing to note is that many papermakers, made jobless by the trade depression, went off first to the Kentish mills at St Mary Cray, Foots Cray etc, and later to the flourishing mills at Alton, Hampshire, from which some ret8urned when trade picked up in Wycombe, though others stay put. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Thanl you and now dealt with off List John Biggs

Hello Paul, Thanks for email, found him living in the Pub, with another family of Pearce living next door, I had thought he was the Ford living in West Wycombe Village with a wife and two children on the 1881. As they do not seem to be around in the 1891 of West Wycombe. Thanks Pete.

Dear Cousins, In 1851 census, Flackwell Heath, Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, my ancestor Thomas Wheeler is listed as a Papermaker. His grandson: a Rag sorter. I had read (and seen at the University of Iowa a demonstration of some paper-making techniques) about paper-making but wonder if anyone on the list can suggest books or articles on the process as it pertains to mid-19th century Bucks. Thanks, Al Al Dawson, Iowa City, Iowa - MA, History, UNC-Chapel Hill, 1973 Visit my website at: www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/w/Al--Dawson/ Ancestor Anniversary: Stephen Hopkins & Elizabeth Fisher, February 19, 1617/18, St. Mary Matfellon, Whitechapel, London, England. Source: Robert Charles Anderson. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633 [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original data: Robert Charles Anderson. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-1633, vols. 1-3. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995.