In message <027b01c52b51$7dda96f0$0102a8c0@computername>, pen <penort@onetel.com> writes >This is all sounding really interesting. >Does anyone have Wendover by any chance please...anything but the 1851? well 1891 (CD from BGS done long since, 1861 coming up any minute) -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <1e8.37431c5e.2f6b284e@aol.com>, LINDSEYGREEN9@aol.com writes >im trying to find military records for bedforshire and hertforshire If you mean actual army records, they are held at the national Archives. If you mean Militia records, they are in the appropriate archives and a great many of the Herts list from which the Militia men were selected have been published. They are by parish and quite detailed. I have a few of them (Hemel, Watford etc areas) -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <000001c52b10$b3107b00$5ef52a50@pbncomputer>, Mark Ware <ware1973@tiscali.co.uk> writes >Does anybody know where I can find a listing of variations of the same >first name ie. Henry can mean Harry etc.? a few to be going on with: Al is mainly American, but occurs rarely in UK for Albert, C20 Alan, Alexander (which would usually be (late C19) Alick or Alec or for a baby, Allie); Alf = Alfred; Andy is Andrew (occasionally =Drew). Art/ie is Arthurn (rare name except C19+); Abe or Abie, Abram = Abraham; Aggie is Agatha or Agnes - which latter would pre C19 occur as Annis, Annes or Anne; Ally, Ales - Alice; Amy - standalone, or Amelia or Emma Bart or earlier Batt = Bartholomew (a rare name after 1725ish unless reflecting a surname; Bert = Albert, Herbert, Robert, Hubert, Bertram; very rarely, Ethelbert; Becky, Beck = Rebecca Bet, Betty, Betsy, Beth, Bessie - Elizabeth; Bella = Isabel/la; Bill, Billy = William (but much rarer than Will/ie till latish C19; Bob= Robert; Chas. abbrev. Charles; Charlie = Charles; Carrie = Caroline; Cait, Cate = Irish version of Caitlin, Cathleen; Conn, Cornie - Cornelius; Cliff - Clifford (mostly C20); Cisley, Celia, Cecily. Cecilia, Sisley -interchangeable Dan = Daniel (watch out for interchange of Daniel and Donald 9in Scotland), Davy = David; Dick, Dickon, Dix = Richard Dolly = Dorothy (or standalone late C19 or just pretty little girl); rarely for (m) Adolphus; Dot/ty - C20 Dorothy; Daisy - standalone or pet name for Margaret; Dowse, Dulse = Dowsabel, Dulcie (rare, mainly pre 1700 or post 1870 ); Drew = sometimes Andrew, or standalone or - Drury. Dod, rare pet name for George; Eddie (more often Ned) = Edward, Edmund, Edwin, Edwy, interchangeably Eden, Edina = rare feminine form = Edwina before that name was used. Elsie = standalone, from Scots form of Elizabeth Eliza = standalone or = Elizabeth (latin form) Effie, Euphan = Euphemia (mainly Scots till late C19) Ernie = Ernest; Em/Emma/Emmie/Emily/Amelia/Amy -interchangeable Essie, Ettie, Etta - Esther./Hester or Etta short for Henrietta Eneas = Angus, Scots; Egidius/a = (Latin) Giles, m or f. Fanny; Frances (f) and C18 = Francis (m); Frank/ie = Francis Fred/Freddie - Frederick (but watch out for Alfred and Wilfred) Galfridus (latin), Goff (rare C19) and C20 Geoff = Geoffrey (Jeffrey) Geo. Georgie, Geordie, = George; Georgie = Georgina (rare); Gerry,= Gerard, Gerald; Gras, Gray (obs. forms of Grace); Gatty = Agatha or rarely variant of Gerty, Gertrude; Gartrud, (obs,) and Gatharuda (latin) rare forms of Gerturde; Ginny =- Jane (very rarely might be Georgina, Virginia, but those names mostly not in common use, so not abbrev.) Gul, Guli, Gulis = Gulielmus, Latin for William Gualterius, Galter's. Latin for Walter Harry, Hal = Henry; Hattie, Harry = Harriet; Hetty = Henrietta, Hester, Esther; Hick - Richard; Hud (med), Hutch = Hugh; Isa, Izzie, Ishbel = Isabel (mainly mediaeval or Scots at first) Ike, Issy = Isaac Jem, Jemmy, Jim, Gimmie, Jamie (Scots); Jas. abbrev = James; Johnnie, Jno. Johannes.is (Latin), Johes (Lat), Jack , = John (or Jack used as general term for a servant boy); Jonty, Jon = Jonathan Jenny = Jane or Janet (not till C20, Jennifer, except poss in Cornwall or Wales); Jessie is Janet (Scots) or a standalone name from late C19; look out for Jessie as variant spelling of male Jesse; Joe, Jos. = Joseph; Josh= Joshua but Jos and a superscript h is Joseph Jer., Jerry = usually Jeremiah, rarely Gerald/rd unless Irish Kate, Katie = Katherine; more rarely, Kathleen, (mainly irish till C20) Lal, Larry, Lawrie, Laurie, Loll = Lawrence (Lal found once for an Albert) Lew, llew, Llyn = Llewelyn; Lou (rare) Louis Lizzie, Lisa, 'Lizer' = Elizabeth (or standalone name Lizzie C19) Louie, Lulu, 'Lousia' = Louisa; Lotty = Charlotte; Letty = Letitia; Marian = Mary Ann, Marianne; Mally, Molly, Maisie = Mary; Maggie, Margie = Margaret; Marj = Marjory; Minnie = standalone name C19 or Mary Millie = Millicent or Amelia/Emily; Matty = Matilda or Martha; Matthey, Matt, Matty, = Matthew (m) whereas Matthew /Matthey is rarely = Martha; Mikel (med.) Mike, Mick, Micky (C19+) = Michael Manny = Emmanuel, usually Jewish. Meg/gy = Margaret Nan, Nanny, Nancy = Ann; Nettie = Annette, Esther; Noll = Oliver; Nickol, Nich, Nich., Micklis = Nicholas; Nora, standalone C19/20 or = Honora (irish)= also (Irish) Narry, Norry. Nellie - Ellen, Helen, Helena, Eleanor or standalone name late C19 Ozzie = Oswald; Ostin = Austin, Augustine; Ollefer = Oliver Offilis = Theophilus Polly = Mary Ann, Mary (very, very rarely, Apollonia, Pauline and similar v uncommon names): Patty = Martha (not Patricia till late C19, then rare till C20); Paddy - Patrick; Pat, Patsy = Patrick, often Peter; Padraig (Iriah) = Patrick; Pip, Phip, Phil = Philip; rarely Phil = Theophilus. Philipp is often fenmale in C16-17. Peggy - Margaret; Parnel, Petronel -interchangeable Piercy = Percy C19 or cd be female name C17/18 Phillis, Phyllis, Phylida, (rare Felice, Felicia) - interchangeable Ralfe (and Latin Radulphus) = Ralph; Ran/Randall/Rendal/ Rannal variants of Randolph, Randall; Reg/gie = Reginald; Rees/Reece/ Rhys variants; Rose. Rosie/ Rosanna/ Rosetta/ variants: Rosa, Rosamund NB Rosoman may be (m). Rivka (Jewish) = Rebecca Rita; C20 standalone or abbrev. of Margarita Sally = Sarah and standalone; Sarey - Sarah; Sisley = Cicely Sibel, Sibil, Sibylla, (rare Sivill) interchangeable Sim, Simpkin = Simon Shuie, Shugie = Hugh (Scots); Shaun, Shawn, Shon = Sean (Irish), John; Steve, Steff, Stefan(Polish) = Steven, Stephen Tad/Thady = Thaddeus (often Irish); Tit = Letitia Tom. Tommy, Thos. = Thomas; Tim, Timmy, Timmer = Timothy Tony = Antony; Theo = Theodore, Theophilus etc Toby, Thoby, Tobit, Tobias -interchangeable Urian, Vrian = Brian; Unis, Unice, = Eunice (or Unity) Valley = Valentine, (Valura, Vallua found) Wal, Wally, = Walter; Will, Willie, Wiilielmus(Latin) -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

This is all sounding really interesting. Does anyone have Wendover by any chance please...anything but the 1851? Thanks, pen

Yes I would like to hear this too, thanks Kirsten -----Original Message----- From: Alison PAGE [mailto:alisonpage74@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 6:42 PM To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BKM] Bucks 1841 census transcriptions hi there, interested to hear that Wing 1841 has already been transcribed as this is my primary centre of interest. can anyone tell me how i can get hold of it please? Thank you Alison >From: Paul Irving <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> >To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BKM] Bucks 1841 census transcriptions >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:33:16 +0000 > >I've just begun transcribing the 1841 census for Waddesdon (300 names >done >so far, about 1500 to go). When it's finished, I'd like to make it >generally available, but don't have a website & I'm not interested in >setting one up at the moment. Does anyone have any suggestions? > >I'd also be grateful if anyone is willing to check it when I've >finished. >There are names & a couple of jobs which could benefit from a second >opinion. > >I intend to impose no restrictions on the use of the transcription, >except >that it should not be used for commercial purposes. I do not count >inclusion by clubs & societies in their publications as a commercial use. > >Does anyone know of any other parishes in Bucks for which the 1841 >census >has been transcribed? I only know of Hanslope & Wing, & I have no relatives >in either :( > >Paul > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05 > > >==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >Advertising for financial gain is not permitted on this List, although >subscribers may include a link to their website in their signature. > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/

Hi , New to list, can anyone help me to find Battams in Wavendon,Bradwell or Foscott? TIA Al

Is anyone researching GURNETT of Buckingham Neil Rees Bucks

Does anybody know where I can find a listing of variations of the same first name ie. Henry can mean Harry etc.? Many thanks Mark

Hi Please could anyone kindly look up farmer John Dudley b 1782 for me. I'm pretty sure he was still alive then. Believe his place of birth was Kempston. Also any other Dudleys still in N Crawley. There were his sons Jesse 1802, Edwin 1804, Henry 1808, John 1813, Thomas 1815 -all born Astwood and Kemspton. Also his daughter Sophia Sleath married to Thomas Sleath Many thanks, Jackie Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

im trying to find military records for bedforshire and hertforshire

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hi there, interested to hear that Wing 1841 has already been transcribed as this is my primary centre of interest. can anyone tell me how i can get hold of it please? Thank you Alison >From: Paul Irving <pauljirving@ntlworld.com> >To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BKM] Bucks 1841 census transcriptions >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:33:16 +0000 > >I've just begun transcribing the 1841 census for Waddesdon (300 names done >so far, about 1500 to go). When it's finished, I'd like to make it >generally available, but don't have a website & I'm not interested in >setting one up at the moment. Does anyone have any suggestions? > >I'd also be grateful if anyone is willing to check it when I've finished. >There are names & a couple of jobs which could benefit from a second >opinion. > >I intend to impose no restrictions on the use of the transcription, except >that it should not be used for commercial purposes. I do not count >inclusion by clubs & societies in their publications as a commercial use. > >Does anyone know of any other parishes in Bucks for which the 1841 census >has been transcribed? I only know of Hanslope & Wing, & I have no relatives >in either :( > >Paul > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05 > > >==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >Advertising for financial gain is not permitted on this List, although >subscribers may include a link to their website in their signature. >

I am trying to trace the family of my maternal g.grandfather, JAMES PRICE, born in Chesham c.1827. According to his marriage certificate to Ann Nicholas, his father was James Price, Butcher. I have found many Prices in the 1851 census for Chesham, but no James Price, butcher. There is one family, head given as Wright Price, who may be related, as Wright seems to be a family name. Can anyone help, please? Nova Savage, Auckland, NZ

I've just begun transcribing the 1841 census for Waddesdon (300 names done so far, about 1500 to go). When it's finished, I'd like to make it generally available, but don't have a website & I'm not interested in setting one up at the moment. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd also be grateful if anyone is willing to check it when I've finished. There are names & a couple of jobs which could benefit from a second opinion. I intend to impose no restrictions on the use of the transcription, except that it should not be used for commercial purposes. I do not count inclusion by clubs & societies in their publications as a commercial use. Does anyone know of any other parishes in Bucks for which the 1841 census has been transcribed? I only know of Hanslope & Wing, & I have no relatives in either :( Paul -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/05

Hello everyone, this is my second posting about early 16th century tenants of the manor of Great Horwood. As I explained before (in a posting about Henry Wattes, gent, of Winslow), I'm studying the people who owned land in Great Horwood between 1400 and 1600, and I'm hoping that other list members may be able to tell me something about certain absentee landowners who had land in the village but didn't live there. This posting is about the Colyer family, who began as peasants in Great Horwood but moved up and out in the late 15th century. The first to leave Great Horwood was HENRY COLYER, probably born around 1430-40, died 1501. Though his father William had begun as a mere peasant husbandman, Henry somehow acquired a legal education and became a lawyer. By the time he died he owned land in Buckingham, Tingewick, Padbury and Brackley as well as Great Horwood, and appears in one record as a gentleman (said to be of Hogshaw, though he doesn't seem to have owned any land there). His will and that of his wife Margaret (died 1503) were proved in the PCC, and an Inquisition post Mortem was held into his properties. He was succeeded by two sons, HENRY COLYER (died c1510) and RICHARD COLYER (still living 1526). He left them a sizeable estate in the village, of five farms and six cottages, which the younger Henry passed on to his brother Richard intact, but which Richard broke up and sold off in the 1520s. I know of the younger Henry and Richard only from the Great Horwood records, but I don't believe they lived in the village, and suspect that they were living as minor gentry somewhere else (Richard does not appear in the 1522 Muster Roll anywhere in Bucks, however). The Colyers disappear from the Great Horwood records after 1529. Henry junior died unmarried, I think, but Richard had a wife Alice and they were both still living when they sold off the last of their Great Horwood properties. There was a third brother, Bartholomew (mentioned just twice, in 1502) and a sister Agnes, who married a London goldsmith called EDWARD HATCOMBE. They seem sometimes to have used a relative, RICHARD COWLEY, as a trustee. I hope that someone may be able to point me towards some information about any of these Colyers in the world outside Great Horwood. Ideally information about their social and economic activities and standing, but even purely genealogical data would be gratefully received. And of course if they are anyone's ancestors then I'll be happy to supply what information I have about their history in Great Horwood in return (in fact generally I can do this for anyone who has ancestors in Great Horwood before 1600). Thanks very much, Matt Tompkins Centre for English Local History University of Leicester 5 Salisbury Road Leicester LE1 7QR

Hello List, Would like if possible to make contact with anyone related to above surname, that does connect to my Pearce line. only address I have is 472 West Wycombe road, High Wycombe on a death certificate of Frederick William Pearce in 1951 R.J. Wests is shown as niece. Many thanks Pete.

I am still ferreting away at my Copus's of Eton. I have found a burial for my Ann Copus in 1834, only 5 months after son John was christened. She was buried at St John the Evangelist, Eton aged 27 (hence my inability to find other children) Does anyone have a transcript of the Parish records and could kindly do a look up for me? On IGI I am unable to find another marriage for John at Eton. Maybe with a second spouse, he may turn up on 1851 census, if still alive, which would give me a clue to his dob and origins. Many thanks Jackie Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Could sks help with finding any information on Joseph Whiting and famiy? I think I may have found a link at long last. In 1881 I have Joseph Whiting M Head 50 born Northampton lab. Hepsybah Whiting M wife 59 born Sharnbrook lacemaker John Whiting U son 21 born Olney Boot finisher Elizabeth Whiting U Dau 19 born Olney Shoe machinist Eva Annie Whiting G Dau 3m born Olney All living at West Street , Olney Buckingham. I think Elizabeth Whiting had another illegitimate daughter ,Emily Harriet in 1883. Elizabeth Whiting married James Ticklepenny in 1891 in Greenwich . Emily gave the name of Joseph Whiting as her father when she married in 1902 in Glamorgan and this is the first time I have found a possible family for Emily and Elizabeth. Any help in tracking the family would be appreciated. Regards, Joan

Hi Rachel The first family are in Islington in 1871. Ann Sirett 38 Hogston, Buckinghamshire Wife Bessie Sirett 8 Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire Daughter Edward Sirett 47 Stratton Dudley, Oxfordshire Head Frederick Sirett 9 Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire Son John E Sirett 13 Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire Son William H Sirett 12 Steeple Claydon, Buckinghamshire Son RG10/304 Islington London ED: 69 Folio: 41 Page: 29 Couldn't spot likely candidates for the second family - perhaps someone else will have more luck. I will send you the image off-list. Regards Alex in Auckland NZ --- Rachel Schicker <r.schicker@btinternet.com> wrote: > Message reposted with the correct title > > Dear List > Many thanks to all of you have provided useful > information last week on my request to search the > Census records for Mead. > > Encouraged by this I wonder if you might be able to > find two more sisters on the 1871 census (1851 is > too early) > > 1. Edward SIRETT (or Syrett) 46 b Stratton > Audley Oxf (farmer) > Annie (or Anne or Ann) Sirett 38 b Hogston > (alternatively Drayton Parslow) > Bessie Sirett 8 b > Steeple Claydon > ?? Mary Ellen Sirett 10 b Claydon > The most likely parish is Steeple Claydon > > 2. Mr ? HEDGES > Mary Hedges 35 B Hogston > (alternatively Drayton Parslow) > ? Annie Belgrove Hedges 10 > Unfortunately the first name of the husband is not > known and it is possible that he was already a > widower by 1871. Mary Hedges is known to have died > by 1872. The most likely parishes are Hogston, > Drayton Parslow, Stewkley > > Thanking you in anticipation > Rachel Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

Hi I am new to the list and have a longstanding brick wall. I have a John Copus b1834 at Eton. His father was John Copus, mother Ann Brown(e). However, please can anyone help me out with parish records to discover WHICH John Copus is his father. I have also been unable to find John Copus in 1851/1861. He was a brewer's labourer in 1865 at 5 James Street, Nr Windsor when he married, and later went on to be a 'beer retailer' with his own pub. Any help would be great. Best wishes, Jackie Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com