<<Although a primary use for many, I would also like to point out that the BGS 1861 CD is not just a tool for finding a specific person or family, <snip> The data can be searched on any census field and the results of the search can be plotted to county and country maps in a number of different ways e.g. by census place, by birth place etc. thus showing the distribution and concentrations of names, distribution across the county of occupations etc. The program also shows age and sex distribution of search results etc. The CD contains a gazetteer of the county, allows distance calculations, and shows hundreds and civil registration districts and so on.>> The BGS deserves many congratulations for that, Kevin - so many groups produce transcripts in a format which is useful for genealogical purposes only, and of little use for more general historical purposes. It's very pleasing to hear that you've produced a transcript of such an important record in a form which makes it useful to other researchers than just genealogists - and it will undoubtedly be very useful. Well done! Matt Tompkins Blaston, Leics

Thanks to Paul for looking up Jane Hubbocks on the 1851 census. I think you are probably right my family of Hubbocks seem to have moved away at that point. Lynn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 5/2/2005

Hi Jon, Here's your Joseph Nixey in 1851 Piece 1718 Folio 180 Schedule 0002 Langley Marish Pt.3 George Green Joseph NIXEY HD M 37 M Master Tailor Upton BKM Martha NIXEY WI M 30 F Langley BKM William NIXEY SO U 5 M Scholar Upton BKM Mary A. NIXEY DA U 3 F Upton BKM Hope it helps Eileen

I did wonder if you wanted help to kill someone :) but soon realised my mistake. If you look at FreeBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ - and search for Arnott deaths in Buckinghamshire between 1841 & 1851 you find a William in the quarter ending June 1846 (Thame - mistranscribed /Thane )/ and an Ann Arnott in June quarter 1851. They could be yours. Paul Geniedi1and2@aol.com wrote: >Hi > >I have a couple William and Ann Arnott in 1841 Long Crendon with several >children. > >In 1851 the children are on their own. > >I have just gone through ten years on 1837 online and not come up with a >concrete death for them. > >Does anyone have records for Long Crendon they could look up for me and see >if they are there?? > >Thanks very much > >Diane > > >==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >To view recent downloadable photos of Bucks churches and village scenes, courtesy of Peter and Kevin Quick, visit: >http://www.countyviews.com > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 02/05/05

Could sks please lookup either or both of these for me please.They are my only Bucks relations so far and will gladly look up for any Oxon requests where able in return I have a James PALMER marrying an Ann ? from Haddenham somewhere around 1810 -1828 the eldest child in 1841census at home was 12 1851 census Towersey Towersey Census 1851 LDS Film 0193635 p.25:79 James PALMER : Head : Marr : 58 : Ag Lab : Born - Thame, Oxon : Anne PALMER : Wife : Marr : 57 : Born - Haddenham, Bucks : The second query is also an Ann HIGGI(E)NS from a son's birth cert. and the 1851 census gives Haddenham as her birthplace This Ann married Thomas WAGERFIELD abt 1815 - 1825 the eldest known child is Joshua b 1828 but I suspect at least one older child/ren as the 1851 census shows a grandson Richard aged 8 , of course he may be the b/b of an older daughter Many Thanks Maisie

Is anyone researching Hannah POOLE? I have a Hannah COMPTON, aged 26, in Castlethorpe on the 1871. ( I think her maiden name could have been MAPLEY.) In 1881 her son George is with her but I think she is called POOLE. Does anyone have a Hannah POOLE who at one time might have been married to a James COMPTON? Any help would be great... Suzie

Does anyone have any connection to Robert Grimsdale a farmer from Widmer End, born around 1781? He was married to Rachel and I believe she was sister to Sarah Carter who married my ancestor Richard Oakins. I found Robert and Rachel on the 1841 census in Wycomb Heath with their son and daughter in law and their son George is shown on the 1851 census in Widmer End with his family. I'm hoping that finding out more about Rachel will identify where she and Sarah were born. Sarah died in 1846 and I have not been able to find Rachel on the 1851 census. 1841 indicates Rachel was born in Bucks. many thanks Ann

I am so happy because I have found an answer to a long standing brick wall on the 1861 1837 online site. We have never been able to discover the link with the 'WRAY' family in LONDON and the 'WRAY' family in DURHAM but on the 1861 Middlesex site have discovered MARTIN OSTERFIELD (ASTERFIELD) WRAY born DURHAM listed as a visitor at 33 Newman Street, Marylebone. Martin died before the 1881 census so I not had this link before. I hope this gives people hope that they may might discover some long lost ancestors. Hazel Original Message----- From: BUCKS-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BUCKS-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Mon 5/2/2005 12:00 AM To: BUCKS-D@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: BUCKS-D Digest V05 #93

Posting my interests. George HODGKINSON and it's various spellings born Amersham about 1814. I believe his parents could be Richard and Mary but I have no baptism record yet. I found two others baptised at the Lower Baptist meeting house Amersham Jesse being one and George named his son Jesse. George married an Elizabeth but I have not found a marriage. His first child was born was born in 1842 and he named him George. Thomas KEEN baptised 1795 at Hawridge married Mary HORWOOD in 1818 at Hawridge. Thomas was the son of Thomas and Mary nee BRIANT. I have a marriage for them as 2nd May 1788 but it is from the IGI and not from a parish record. I am looking for the baptism of Thomas about 1760 and a record of the marriage from a parish register. Mary HORWOOD could be the daughter of James BRIAN and Mary BACHELOR. That couple was married at Hawridge in 1757. I am looking for a baptism and the proper marriage date for Mary and parents. Absolam TURNER son of Joseph baptised 1799 at Speen married Grace FREE of Risborough in 1823. I have nothing for more for Grace. Joseph TURNER was married to Elizabeth probably at Speen but I have nothing more for them. They must have married before 1799. I was hoping to go the CRO and spend a few days in Buckinghamshire but ill health has put a stop to that. Is anyone else working on these names or could help me with the missing dates. Best wishes Joan In Devon

Bucks is an abbreviation of Buckinghamshire. Buckingham is the town for which the county is named - but it's not the county town. That's Aylesbury. Only Jane HUBBOCKS in 1851 census of Bucks was in Temple Street, Brill. Aged 35, born Dedington OXF. Wife of Henry HUBBOCKS age 42 b Brill. Nephew John TIMS, 14, b Dedington, living with them. No John within 10 years of that age. They'd probably moved away by then. 20 HUBBOCKS in the county. 18 Brill, 1 Maids Moreton - and they were born in Brill. Also 11 HUBBUCKS in Oakley. Paul Lynn wrote: > Hello again, > I'm sorry I neglected to say how old any of these people were. > Jane HUBBOCKS (Jones) was born about 1833 ( from 1871 census) > Older Jane HUBBOCKS born about 1821 (1861 census). > John HUBBOCKS born about 1818 (1861 census). > I'm afraid I don't know this area at all is Bucks also a town in > Buckinghamshire? I thought it was just a short form for the county. > > Lynn > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.1 - Release Date: 02/05/05

Hi Joan I have Thomas KEEN and Mary BRIANT also with the marriage on 2nd May 1788 through IGI. Their daughter Phebe is my 3rd great grandmother. I haven't done a lot of research on the Keen/Briant branch but will certainly have a go and see what I can find. Eileen

Gillian... Brackley, perhaps? Listed variously as being in Bucks, Oxon or Northants at www.old-maps.co.uk , it is nowadays just over the border in Northants. Try co-ordinates 458500,237500 at www.streetmap.co.uk for a modern map or at www.old-maps.co.uk for an 1885 version (choose the Northants option - the other two are blank.) Mike the Map Man

Hi Gillian, There is a BRADWEll and NEW BRADWELL in Bucks where some of my folks went to from Notts. Maybe someone else knows of another similar sounding place. Best wishes, Sandra GSS <gss@beeb.net> wrote: I am wondering if someone can help with a place in Bucks where my ancestor (Sarah Andrews) says she was born back in the 1780s. I have looked in Phillimore's Atlas, on Parloc and on a modern map but cannot find anything, so hoping there is a lister with local knowledge who can help. It is obviously not a known parish so is more likely to be a small hamlet somewhere. I have on the 1861 census (RG9 793 96 Tottenham MDX) what looks like Bradley, on the 1871 census (RG10 1649 20 Barking ESS) it looks like Bradly or Bradby. Unfortunately she had died by 1881 (she had lived to the age of 89 so don't think she was worried) and I do not know where she was living in 1851, but as it was most likely to be in London, I am going to have to wait for Ancestry or someone else to complete an index otherwise it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. Thanks Gillian ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== Advertising for financial gain is not permitted on this List, although subscribers may include a link to their website in their signature.

I am wondering if someone can help with a place in Bucks where my ancestor (Sarah Andrews) says she was born back in the 1780s. I have looked in Phillimore's Atlas, on Parloc and on a modern map but cannot find anything, so hoping there is a lister with local knowledge who can help. It is obviously not a known parish so is more likely to be a small hamlet somewhere. I have on the 1861 census (RG9 793 96 Tottenham MDX) what looks like Bradley, on the 1871 census (RG10 1649 20 Barking ESS) it looks like Bradly or Bradby. Unfortunately she had died by 1881 (she had lived to the age of 89 so don't think she was worried) and I do not know where she was living in 1851, but as it was most likely to be in London, I am going to have to wait for Ancestry or someone else to complete an index otherwise it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. Thanks Gillian

Hi I have a couple William and Ann Arnott in 1841 Long Crendon with several children. In 1851 the children are on their own. I have just gone through ten years on 1837 online and not come up with a concrete death for them. Does anyone have records for Long Crendon they could look up for me and see if they are there?? Thanks very much Diane

Hello again, I'm sorry I neglected to say how old any of these people were. Jane HUBBOCKS (Jones) was born about 1833 ( from 1871 census) Older Jane HUBBOCKS born about 1821 (1861 census). John HUBBOCKS born about 1818 (1861 census). I'm afraid I don't know this area at all is Bucks also a town in Buckinghamshire? I thought it was just a short form for the county. Lynn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.0 - Release Date: 4/29/2005

Paul - I am sending this again through the mailing list as I got a reply that my message did not go through I am replying to your email stating you had the images for the baptisms of Harry and Lizzie's children I would love to receive them and wait patiently for their arrival Thanks a bunch Judy BC Canada

Does anyone have a James COMPTON, with wife Hannah and son George in their tree? On the 1871 James was 27, Hannah 25 and George 4. All in Castlethorpe. Does anyone have this family in 1881? I can't seem to find them? Thanks. Suzie

Hi, I do think everyone is being a bit carping about Ancestry and the census on line. OK they might not be perfect, but they are a lot better than 40 or 50% correct. I have found loads of missing rellies with their index. When I think of how difficult it was to find some of the census returns, when I started doing family history, twelve years ago, well it'a a great help. Of course it is better to have a local CD, prepared by people who are experienced. But sometimes the wretched people aren't even in the County, where you expect to find them, and in those cases the index can be very useful. I found someone in Yorkshire not Bucks in 1891 which cleared up a long standing mystery. Let's be a bit less picky. By the way, I bet you all had a wonderful 'Feast' so sorry we missed it. Bad back, couldn't drive. Cheers Leila. Original Message ----- From: "John Brown" <john.dehavilland@btinternet.com> To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Faults > "Jenny Cross" <jenny@jennycross.freeserve.co.uk> wrote : > > >>I agree census were difficult to read, but sometimes I feel that the >>people who have indexed Ancestry need to use just a little common sense. >>One of my ancestors is Emanuel and it indexed as EMANIUIT > > The problem is that these are commercial transcriptions, completed as > quickly as possible for commercial gain. They are not undertaken by people > with any local knowledge, nor with any real concern for accuracy; best > guess will suffice. While they are useful, they simply can't be relied > upon to be more than perhaps 40 or 50% accurate at best. > > John B > Leic., Eng > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > To view recent downloadable photos of Bucks churches and village scenes, > courtesy of Peter and Kevin Quick, visit: > http://www.countyviews.com >

Pen, are you specifically talking the 1861 census here? In that year's census there is a widowed Ann TIBBY age 59 in Wendover (with son Henry age 18), indexed correctly in both the BGS CD and Ancestry. The CD tells me they are the only TIBBYs in Bucks (well, there's a Alfred TIBEY from Uxbridge MDX in Beaconsfield too). Two TIBBYs in Bucks in 1861 isn't a lot.....so you probably do need to shift your search to London, and for that I can only wish you luck as you'll no doubt need it! Regards Alex in Auckland NZ --- pen <penort@onetel.com> wrote: > Given that there seem to be some interesting and > imaginative > transcriptions...and I think I have tried every > possible permutation.... > > anyone want to have a guess as to how to find my > Tibby people please. > They came from Wendover and a lot of them should be > still there and/or in > London. > > I think the beast has beaten me.... > > Pen Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com