Hi Adrian and List, The village of Stantonbury was transformed into New Bradwell from about 1850 onwards by the LNWR railway company and many of the streets were given "working names". My own grandmother in the 1881 census lived at 189 Top St. in the 1891 census she is at 81, Bridge st., same house, different street name and number. In the book "Bradwell Past and Present" by Marion Hill ISBN 0-7509-1764-4 there is a brief history of the area including a map of the street layout by which I am sure you will be able to identify the house you are interested in. I suspect that it is The Newport Rd. opposite what was to become the Recreational Ground. The houses that you have seen with the 3 stories were in Spencer street ( previously Middle St.)a section of which as been preserved and now is run by a commune trust. The book is available from Abebooks, and although written by an incomer and contains some inaccurate information is very good value for recording the development and eventual destruction of the village. It is basically a photographic record of the area. One disappointing aspect is the very poor binding. HTH Bob S

>onshire >With her are >Eliza 23 daughter a servant born Buckinghamshire Bradle? (Bridle?) Bradle for Bradwell >Martha 19 daughter Charwoman Buckinghamshire Wolverton >Mary Ann daughter in law 8months Shropshire Donington > -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi Graham I recently went to XP and am using Generations V6 and all is working fine. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hing" <paul@wilburydream.freeserve.co.uk> To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] New Computer > Hi Graham, > I have Generations 8 and changed to XP over two years ago with no problem. > I don't think I had to do anything special but it was two years ago. You > can send me the file if you think that would help. > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Taylor-Paddick" <francs2000@yahoo.com> > To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:55 AM > Subject: [BKM] New Computer > > >> Hi all, >> >> Our new computer has now arrived, so we are now back >> in touch with the world! >> >> That said, we may need some assistance with our family >> history software. I suspect my old software (Sierra >> Generations 8) may not work with Windows XP. Does >> anyone know of an update that is available for this >> programme? If not, does anyone have Sierra Generation >> version 8 or later, that if I send to you my family >> history files you can export them as gedcoms and send >> them back to me? Is there any other way around this >> problem? >> >> Graham Taylor-Paddick >> Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, UK >> On a nice bright shiny new computer... >> >> "This book is not to be discarded lightly: >> it should be thrown with great force..." >> >> Dorothy Parker, in a review for "The House at Pooh Corner" by A. A. Milne >> >> http://uk.geocities.com/francs2000 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. >> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 >> >> >> ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> >> > > > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >

Hi, I have a copy of v8.5 on my machine running XP Professional and it seems to work OK - that said I would not rave about the programme as such. Frankly find it a pain in the ....... Regards, Stew WATSON King Country, New Zealand

Hi Graham, I have Generations 8 and changed to XP over two years ago with no problem. I don't think I had to do anything special but it was two years ago. You can send me the file if you think that would help. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Taylor-Paddick" <francs2000@yahoo.com> To: <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:55 AM Subject: [BKM] New Computer > Hi all, > > Our new computer has now arrived, so we are now back > in touch with the world! > > That said, we may need some assistance with our family > history software. I suspect my old software (Sierra > Generations 8) may not work with Windows XP. Does > anyone know of an update that is available for this > programme? If not, does anyone have Sierra Generation > version 8 or later, that if I send to you my family > history files you can export them as gedcoms and send > them back to me? Is there any other way around this > problem? > > Graham Taylor-Paddick > Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, UK > On a nice bright shiny new computer... > > "This book is not to be discarded lightly: > it should be thrown with great force..." > > Dorothy Parker, in a review for "The House at Pooh Corner" by A. A. Milne > > http://uk.geocities.com/francs2000 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > >

I had several members of my family who were Gamekeepers in the 1700 & 1800's and wonder if there were any lists kept. They seemed to have traveled as far away as Ireland but always ended back in Buckinghamshire as Gamekeepers. Unless there was a job already there for them I doubt that they would have gone that far. Vincent

Subject: [BKM] New Computer I suspect my old software (Sierra > Generations 8) may not work with Windows XP. Does > anyone know of an update that is available for this > programme? Some Generations users have reported problems with running version 8 on XP and a new version 8.5 was issued to work on XP. I have heard rumours that this new version is now no longer available, TWR Computing are still advertising it on their website http://www.twrcomputing.co.uk/ so it may still be available from them. The company that produce Family Tree Maker have bought out Sierra and will no longer produce the Generations sotware as they intend to push their own FTM. Send us the files you want converting and we'll do it for you, we've still got an old system running 98SE which has both versions of Generations on it. Use this e-mail address not the reply to button, info@genealogyprinters.com Best Wishes Carol O'Neill www.genealogyprinters.com

In message <88.26f1be6e.2fbbb8c5@aol.com>, DrGeneal@aol.com writes >Hello Lists We now have a birth Certificate for Martha NAYLOR who was born >in Wolverton in 1841. She was the daughter of Joseph NAYLOR and RENE or RELEY >nee TOOMBS. Has anyone personal knowledge of TOOMBS in that area? The She appears in all records as Rely or Reloy (the latter the local pronunciation) I thought for a while it was intended as Reby for Rebecca, but apparently not. I suppose it is a new coinage of a 'virtue' name, like Constance, Faith, Troth, Patience, Virtue, which somehow appealed to the parents but never took on elsewhere (thaT I know of). > -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <LEEKKHIGLPJPKNHOFKOJOEICELAA.abruce@madasafish.com>, Adrian Bruce <abruce@madasafish.com> writes >Anyone know how houses were identified in New Bradwell in the 1860s? > >The birth certificate for my great-grandmother (Mary Jane Marley SALTER) has >When & where born: Twelfth April 1863; 135 New Bradwell This was a railway town and long lines of terrace houses were being bult all the time, which were eventually given street names. But maybe this naming was not far advanced at this stage, and the enumerator chose to ignore it. It is even possible these are the first #railway houses' along the very long Newport Road, off which the shorter half dozen streets like St Mary Rd, St Giles Rd, etc ran. The Newport Rd houses were larger, the side ones tended to be neat two up two down style. There are pictures of the Newport Rd houses in Julian Hunt and Denis Mynard's book:@ Milton Keynes, a pictiorial history. Checking the precise distance from St James's church (built 1860, on the Newport Rd should pinpoint it. > >No street name - just the number. Curious? I have just found the record for >them in the 1861 census. At that time they were at Number 118 is this the street address or the household schedule number? >As a clue, No 118 appears to contain 3 large families, and the next 2 >entries in the census are the Railway Tavern and St James Church.... half way down the Newport Rd -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi Suzie, With the help of Eileen's census I have found the baptisms for John and Anne's children at Greta Linford, Hannah is actually recorded as Anna, 15 June 1845. The wedding of John and Anne does not appear to have been in Great Linford at least not at St.Andrew's. I have no Compton records, your best bet will probably be a marriage certificate for James's father. Bob S

Hi ???? (talking of proper names <g>) In 1861 Martha is in Donington Shropshire RG9 1852 Folio 72 P4 Rene is 59 married (no sign of hubby though?) a Charwoman born Old Shalford Northamptonshire With her are Eliza 23 daughter a servant born Buckinghamshire Bradle? (Bridle?) Martha 19 daughter Charwoman Buckinghamshire Wolverton Mary Ann daughter in law 8months Shropshire Donington Address Sydnal Lane (no house numbers) hth Best wishes Nivard Ovington Cornwall (UK) > Hello Lists We now have a birth Certificate for Martha NAYLOR who was born > in Wolverton in 1841. She was the daughter of Joseph NAYLOR and RENE or RELEY > nee TOOMBS. Has anyone personal knowledge of TOOMBS in that area? The > I.G.I.does show quite a number in the Potterspury area. Apart from IRENE has > anyone any ideas about her proper given name? Drgeneal -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005

Hi Adrian, I have some Ancestors there and they were in New Bradwell Road. Maybe the Road bit isn't visible. Best wishes, Sandra Adrian Bruce <abruce@madasafish.com> wrote: Anyone know how houses were identified in New Bradwell in the 1860s? The birth certificate for my great-grandmother (Mary Jane Marley SALTER) has When & where born: Twelfth April 1863; 135 New Bradwell No street name - just the number. Curious? I have just found the record for them in the 1861 census. At that time they were at Number 118 - again no street, although the census form is wholly hand-written, not pre-printed. It looks to me as if there were either no street names at all, or all the houses were numbered in one sequence - hence no need for street names. Anyone expert in the history of New Bradwell care to comment why there are no street names? And I'd really be grateful to anyone who can translate these houses to their current addresses - if any. As a clue, No 118 appears to contain 3 large families, and the next 2 entries in the census are the Railway Tavern and St James Church.... I've recently found some photos of what I guess are railway built houses, with some 3 storey end-of-terraces that make me wonder if this was the sort of house that 118 might have been.... Grateful for any thoughts. Adrian Bruce adrian_bruce@bigfoot.com ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== Your signature should be no more than 3 lines long and should not include surname interests which are outside the scope of this List.

Anyone know how houses were identified in New Bradwell in the 1860s? The birth certificate for my great-grandmother (Mary Jane Marley SALTER) has When & where born: Twelfth April 1863; 135 New Bradwell No street name - just the number. Curious? I have just found the record for them in the 1861 census. At that time they were at Number 118 - again no street, although the census form is wholly hand-written, not pre-printed. It looks to me as if there were either no street names at all, or all the houses were numbered in one sequence - hence no need for street names. Anyone expert in the history of New Bradwell care to comment why there are no street names? And I'd really be grateful to anyone who can translate these houses to their current addresses - if any. As a clue, No 118 appears to contain 3 large families, and the next 2 entries in the census are the Railway Tavern and St James Church.... I've recently found some photos of what I guess are railway built houses, with some 3 storey end-of-terraces that make me wonder if this was the sort of house that 118 might have been.... Grateful for any thoughts. Adrian Bruce adrian_bruce@bigfoot.com

Hi all, Our new computer has now arrived, so we are now back in touch with the world! That said, we may need some assistance with our family history software. I suspect my old software (Sierra Generations 8) may not work with Windows XP. Does anyone know of an update that is available for this programme? If not, does anyone have Sierra Generation version 8 or later, that if I send to you my family history files you can export them as gedcoms and send them back to me? Is there any other way around this problem? Graham Taylor-Paddick Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, UK On a nice bright shiny new computer... "This book is not to be discarded lightly: it should be thrown with great force..." Dorothy Parker, in a review for "The House at Pooh Corner" by A. A. Milne http://uk.geocities.com/francs2000 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

During some 40 years of looking at censuses I have noticed a distinct lack of actual addresses in the villages, particularly the smaller ones, and the census entry number very rarely corresponds with the house number anyway. One can get some help sometimes by relating the entry of interest to a local landmark, frequently a pub but occasionally an occupation.The minister will be found usually next to or at least near to the church, and the local vicarage or rectory may well locate him, or perhaps the butcher's shop or the smithy can be pin-pointed.Worth trying particularly if you have local knowledge. DrGeneal

Hello Lists We now have a birth Certificate for Martha NAYLOR who was born in Wolverton in 1841. She was the daughter of Joseph NAYLOR and RENE or RELEY nee TOOMBS. Has anyone personal knowledge of TOOMBS in that area? The I.G.I.does show quite a number in the Potterspury area. Apart from IRENE has anyone any ideas about her proper given name? Drgeneal

Thank you so much to folk who replied so promptly to my request, especially Dianne, Bob and Eileen. All information gratefully received, some of which I had already and some of which was a "positive negative" - lots of those around in family history, aren't there? Unfortunately still no further forward really...but I'll keep hunting. Kind regards Suzie (from Orkney)

Hi Suzie, I have no Hannah with a daughter Hannah or any COMPTONS as far as I know at the moment. If you go to http://www.maberly.net/ In section G on the downloadable family tree are all the Bucks. MAPLEY/MABLEY families you may be able to find a connection there. I would be interested if you do. What time period and village or town were your MAPLEY family? Regards Bob S -----Original Message----- From: Suzie Woodward [mailto:vestlaybanks@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:31 AM To: Bob Strong; BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKM] Hannah MAPLEY Bob. Thanks for that. I wonder then if your Hannah and William MAPLEY are parents of my Hannah? The Hannah MAPLEY I am interested in married a James COMPTON. Does this fit? Did they have any daughters called Hannah? Thanks anyway. Suzie (from Orkney) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Strong" <strongmb@paradise.net.nz> To: "Suzie Woodward" <vestlaybanks@btinternet.com>; <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: RE: [BKM] Hannah MAPLEY Hi Suzie, I have a Hannah MAPLEY, maiden name unknown who was the wife of William MAPLEY. Bob S NZ -----Original Message----- From: Suzie Woodward [mailto:vestlaybanks@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:04 PM To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BKM] Hannah MAPLEY Does anyone have a Hannah MAPLEY in their tree? b abt 1846 ? Suzie ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== View or download up to 20000 archive photos of Buckinghamshire from the Bucks County Council web site at: http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/photo_database

Bob. Thanks for that but can't see Hannah there. I have a marriage reference for a Hannah MAPLEY and a James COMPTON Mar Qtr 1866, at Newport Pagnall. Ref: 3a/533 I have a James and Hannah with son George on the 1871 in Castlethorpe/Wolverton. I am really interested in who James's father was. I'll keep hunting... Thanks Suzie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Strong" <strongmb@paradise.net.nz> To: "Suzie Woodward" <vestlaybanks@btinternet.com>; <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: RE: [BKM] Hannah MAPLEY Hi Suzie, I have no Hannah with a daughter Hannah or any COMPTONS as far as I know at the moment. If you go to http://www.maberly.net/ In section G on the downloadable family tree are all the Bucks. MAPLEY/MABLEY families you may be able to find a connection there. I would be interested if you do. What time period and village or town were your MAPLEY family? Regards Bob S -----Original Message----- From: Suzie Woodward [mailto:vestlaybanks@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:31 AM To: Bob Strong; BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKM] Hannah MAPLEY Bob. Thanks for that. I wonder then if your Hannah and William MAPLEY are parents of my Hannah? The Hannah MAPLEY I am interested in married a James COMPTON. Does this fit? Did they have any daughters called Hannah? Thanks anyway. Suzie (from Orkney) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Strong" <strongmb@paradise.net.nz> To: "Suzie Woodward" <vestlaybanks@btinternet.com>; <BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: RE: [BKM] Hannah MAPLEY Hi Suzie, I have a Hannah MAPLEY, maiden name unknown who was the wife of William MAPLEY. Bob S NZ -----Original Message----- From: Suzie Woodward [mailto:vestlaybanks@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:04 PM To: BUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BKM] Hannah MAPLEY Does anyone have a Hannah MAPLEY in their tree? b abt 1846 ? Suzie ==== BUCKS Mailing List ==== View or download up to 20000 archive photos of Buckinghamshire from the Bucks County Council web site at: http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/photo_database

Hi, I'm after information on Slatter in Long Crendon and chilton. Has any one got the 1841 census with slatter I have come to a brick wall and all help would be greatly accepted. William Slatter was born about 1823. As i am in Australia it is getting harder to track down from abroad. Kathy Bowman bowmanka@bigpond.net.au