Mary Jane, If you put Claydon House into Google (or other), it should sent you to the following: http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/w-visits/w-findaplace/w-claydonhouse.htm If not, just type in the first bit and work your way there. When you 'arrive' a map link will help you with the location. If you type in 'Florence Nightingale' or 'Ralph Verney', you will learn even more.................. Best regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: M. Hamp To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: [BKM] Claydon House/HAMP Hi: I have researched Claydon House and the Verney's as my ggrandfather George Hamp (b.1839) was a "cowman on the Verney estate". For those of you who are familiar with the area, would you kindly tell me where the House was in relation to the estate as the House is listed as being in Middle Claydon and the estate is in East Claydon? Any further information or direction/links would be appreciated. Mary Jane Hamp Toronto, Canada HAMP, DANIEL, BALDWIN, BUTTON, GROVES, SCOTT, CHAMBERS, ELMER, TOMLINS, POUNEY (POWNEY), HAMPE --------------------------------- Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Jane, You would probably get the information from St Thomas' Hospital in London. The Nightingale Training School was there. Address is: Nightingale Training School St Thomas' Hosp London SE1 0TE Heather

Looking for a baptism for Daniel Frederick WYATT about 1820 in Eton, Buckinghamshire. I am not sure how to go about finding this information from "across the pond". Any advice or suggestions greatly appreciated. Marian Barton in Canada

1851 -- A Commission Agent, the double s was often written like an F Margaret (Bowyer) Guest Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:34:32 +1000 From: "Alan Richards" <[email protected]> Subject: [BKM] Definition of name To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi All, I have George MARKS in Bristol in Gloucestshire and on the Census it shows his occupation as a "COMMIFUCIA". It is hard to read but is something similar to this. Could somebody help me out please? Regards Alan Australia

Hi All, I have George MARKS in Bristol in Gloucestshire and on the Census it shows his occupation as a "COMMIFUCIA". It is hard to read but is something similar to this. Could somebody help me out please? Regards Alan Australia _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: WIN new Jeep Compass & Off-Road Adventure with Trading Post! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etradingpostcompetition%2Ecom%2Eau%2FOffRoadAdventure%2F%3Freferrer%3Dplace83&_t=763756818&_r=hotmail_email_tagline_July07&_m=EXT

Hi Alan It would be very helpful to tell us which census it was you found him in? If you can tell us the census page ref there are many out here who could check the page and most likely answer your enquiry There are 22 George MARKS who are enumerated in Bristol Gloucestershire in the various census, which one is yours? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi All, > > I have George MARKS in Bristol in Gloucestshire and on the Census it shows > his occupation as a "COMMIFUCIA". It is hard to read but is something > similar to this. > > Could somebody help me out please? > > Regards > > Alan > Australia

Commission Agent

It was not money from church collections (which went straight to the Vicar). It was money collected as poor rates by the parish overseers, and accounted for by them. For some parishes, the Overseers' accounts survive and list what was received and handed out (sometimes why, which is great). EVE

It was not money from church collections (which went straight to the Vicar). It was money collected as poor rates by the parish overseers, and accounted for by them. For some parishes, the Overseers' accounts survive and list what was received and handed out (sometimes why, which is great). EVE

Collectioner means a pauper who receive small hand outs from the money collected for poor relief from the somewhat better off folk. The Overseers of the poor allocated this money, according to the status and needs of the person. On the whole, a single person or widow/er would get about 1s6d to 2s, and a widow with small children would get a slight increase per child. This was added to if the recipient was sick, unless by provision of parish nursing (amateur) or medicine from the local doctor. You sometimes see wills where gifts are left to 'the poor of this parish not receiving collection'.

Collectioner means a pauper who receive small hand outs from the money collected for poor relief from the somewhat better off folk. The Overseers of the poor allocated this money, according to the status and needs of the person. On the whole, a single person or widow/er would get about 1s6d to 2s, and a widow with small children would get a slight increase per child. This was added to if the recipient was sick, unless by provision of parish nursing (amateur) or medicine from the local doctor. You sometimes see wills where gifts are left to 'the poor of this parish not receiving collection'.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen J. Cook Sent: 25 July 2007 09:05 To: Bucks Subject: [BKM] Meaning of the word COLLECTIONER Could SKS please tell me about the word COLLECTIONER, Is it just another word for collecters or has it some other meaning I have come across this alot in the Chesham burials of the 1700's. Cheers Maureen Cook Shoalwater Western Australia In response to the above 'Collectioner', meaning someone who receives a small sum from the collection of poor rates - that is, a pauper. Margaret (Bowyer) Guest

Hi Celia, That was quick, thank you very much. That makes sense when you think about it.which I did not. Maureen Cook Shoalwater Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Renshaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Meaning of the word COLLECTIONER > Hi, I'm no expert but I'd hazard a guess that these were "poor folk" who > were "maintain'd by collection" as I've seen it written recently in > Buckingham PRs for that same period (early 1700s). I guess it means they > received money from the church collections. > > Cheers > Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Maureen J. Cook > Sent: 25 July 2007 09:05 > To: Bucks > Subject: [BKM] Meaning of the word COLLECTIONER > > Could SKS please tell me about the word COLLECTIONER, Is it just another > word for collecters or has it some other meaning I have come across this > alot in the Chesham burials of the 1700's. > > Cheers > Maureen Cook > Shoalwater > Western Australia > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 122 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > !DSPAM:46a5ee34357131436444129! > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 7/23/2007 > 7:45 PM > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 32 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Could SKS please tell me about the word COLLECTIONER, Is it just another word for collecters or has it some other meaning I have come across this alot in the Chesham burials of the 1700's. Cheers Maureen Cook Shoalwater Western Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 122 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Since papermaking was a major industry, they might also had been collectors of rags! Al Dawson in America (descended from Bucks papermakers and lacemakers!) -----Original Message----- From: Celia Renshaw <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 7:17 am Subject: Re: [BKM] Meaning of the word COLLECTIONER Hi, I'm no expert but I'd hazard a guess that these were "poor folk" who were "maintain'd by collection" as I've seen it written recently in Buckingham PRs for that same period (early 1700s). I guess it means they received money from the church collections. Cheers Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen J. Cook Sent: 25 July 2007 09:05 To: Bucks Subject: [BKM] Meaning of the word COLLECTIONER Could SKS please tell me about the word COLLECTIONER, Is it just another word for collecters or has it some other meaning I have come across this alot in the Chesham burials of the 1700's. Cheers Maureen Cook Shoalwater Western Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 122 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Hi, I'm no expert but I'd hazard a guess that these were "poor folk" who were "maintain'd by collection" as I've seen it written recently in Buckingham PRs for that same period (early 1700s). I guess it means they received money from the church collections. Cheers Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen J. Cook Sent: 25 July 2007 09:05 To: Bucks Subject: [BKM] Meaning of the word COLLECTIONER Could SKS please tell me about the word COLLECTIONER, Is it just another word for collecters or has it some other meaning I have come across this alot in the Chesham burials of the 1700's. Cheers Maureen Cook Shoalwater Western Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 122 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some of the many events taking place during Heritage Open Days 2007 (6th-9th September) include some that may be of interest if your ancestors came from the North Bucks area including events at Olney, MK Village, Bygone Bletchley Exhibition, Newport Pagnell, "A Taste of The Great War - A Local Slant" (at Milton Keynes Library), New Bradwell, Wolverton Works Tour. See: http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/hods/ for details (some events need advance booking) and http://www.heritageopendays.org/ed/ for other areas.

> From: [email protected] > Subject: [BKM] Adoption > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Dear All, > Can SKS please tell me if there were adoption records in the late > 1890s/early 1900s and where would I look? My grandmother was > adopted. Heather Webb > There was no offical adoption until the 1926 Act came into force. before that, a child was sometimes taken into another family unofficially, either because the natural parent/s were relatives, or because the child was fostered to them by some relative who paid or because an arrangement was made either by a Union of parishes, a church or a charitable society. There will not normally be any sort of record of this, since 90% of the 'adoptions' did not involve officials at all. Very occasionally, if the Union (workhouse) arranged the fostering of a baby, the fosterers took a liking and kept it. In this case, there could be the first placement note in Workhouse records - but you would need to know which workhouse, before you could pursue this. I would check very carefully to see if the 'adoptrers' are in any way related to the natural parents - childless sisters or aunties did sometimes take on their relative's child.

Hi Pat, Thanks for replying. Regards Alan Australia >From: "Pat Ricketts" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BKM] Parish of Ickford, Bucks, in 1841 Census >Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:36:26 +0800 > >Sorry, Alan, I know very little of my Bunce connection other than Sophia >ROFE (whose mum was a Ricketts) married a Thomas BUNCE Ickford 1809. > >Regards >Pat > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On >Behalf Of Alan Richards >Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 9:17 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BKM] Parish of Ickford, Bucks, in 1841 Census > > >Hi Pat, > >I see you have the surname "BUNCE" in you family. > >I have a John Butcher who married Jane Bunce in East Claydon on 10 June >1695. > >They had four children, William baptised 20 October 1695, Ann 2 May 1697, >Sarah 10 April 1699 and Jane 11 March 1702. > >Any connection please? > >Regards > >Alan Richards > > > >From: "Pat Ricketts" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [BKM] Parish of Ickford, Bucks, in 1841 Census > >Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:32:18 +0800 > > > >Thank you so much, Paul, for your wonderful efforts in transcribing the > >Ickford 1841 Census. I found many of my family members sitting there - > >Loader, Dennet, Fuller, Bunce - all descendants of my William Ricketts > >(1700-1766) Dairyman/Miller, of Ickford. > > > >Much appreciated > >Pat in Western Australia. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On > >Behalf Of [email protected] > >Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2007 12:20 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [BKM] Parish of Ickford, Bucks, in 1841 Census > > > > > >I'd like to announce another modest contribution to the 1841 census > >transcriptions available on the web - the Parish of Ickford, Bucks. > > > >You can find the transcript at > >http://www.brazellnuts.com/ukbrazells/census/1841/ickford.html . > > > >There are still question marks next to some entries. If anybody has the > >time and inclination to consult original images and suggest corrections, >I > >would be very grateful. I look forward to hearing from you :) > > > >Regards, > > > >Paul Brazell > >Berlin, Germany > > > > > >*************************************** > > > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in > >the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.5/899 - Release Date: 7/13/2007 > >3:41 PM > > > > > >*************************************** > > > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > >_________________________________________________________________ >Advertisement: Make shopping exciting. Find what you want at >www.eBay.com.au >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2 >F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%2F%3Fid%3D6&_t=763807330&_r=email_taglines >_EBAY&_m=EXT > >*************************************** > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in >the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 7/21/2007 >3:52 PM > > >*************************************** > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Are you paid what you're worth? Find out: SEEK Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcareer%2Dresources%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Asc%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=july07_endtext_salary&_m=EXT

Hi Anne, The original message was when Pat thanked Paul Irving for his transcriptions of the 1841 Census where she mentioned she found some of her BUNCE family amongst them. The only info' i have is the marriage of John BUTCHER to Jane BUNCE on 10 June 1695. My family is the BUTCHER family. Regards Alan Australia >From: "Anne Picketts" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BKM] BUNCE >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:02:33 +1200 > >Sorry - I missed the original message with this BUNCE thread. > > > I have Charles Richard BUNCE b 1844 of Thornborough & his children > > Annie 1866, Richard 1870 & Fred 1866 on my tree if they are of any > > relevence to you. > >I have a Harriet BUNCE married to James CARR of Thornborough (1892) and a >Henry BUNCE married into the CAPEL family from Thornborough (possibly >about 1905). I don't know if these two are related but if you have either >CARR >or CAPEL with your connections I'd appreciate hearing from you. > >Regards > >Anne > > -- >Anne PICKETTS >Waipu, 0510, NZ >Researching: PICKETTS, CAPEL, CARR, GEORGE, WHITEHEAD, WHITLOCK, >VARNEY, MAYO, BRAMLEY in Bucks and Northants > > >*************************************** > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Make shopping exciting. Find what you want at www.eBay.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%2F%3Fid%3D6&_t=763807330&_r=email_taglines_EBAY&_m=EXT