Good morning. Yesterday for the first time I sent to the Bucks list . For look up regarding ,Surname of MITCHELL.My Father in law, was one of two sons of William Mitchell and Elizabeth Mitchell This was The second marriage for Elizabeth. Elizabeth had been born a Elizabeth SWABEY. and her first marriage was to a William WINCHCOMBE and there were I beleive some WINCHCOMBE children. Where as William MITCHELL's first marriage had been to Ann CORDERY, perhaps 3 children there, by this you can see there were a number of half brothers and sisters for Arthur and Charles MITCHELL. Arthur was born1890 Wexham.where as Charles was born1892 Stoke Poges. I wonder if anyone could help with who Arthur MITCHELL married and when , All my husband does know is the ladies christian name was Agnes. Plus did they have any children. I will be happy to hear from anyone who does have an interest with the MITCHELL line. and for that matter . SWABEY , WINCHCOME EVERED, Could even be BATMAN. Jeune WITNEY OXON

Hi Amanda, When you are checking East Claydon's churchyard i would greatly appreciate if you could please see if there are any members of the"BUTCHER" family buied there and if i can be so rude as to ask if it is at all possible to check the churchyard at Middle Claydon also. Many thanks Alan Australia >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BKM] was Claydon House/now Baldwin >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:26:32 EDT > >Hi Mary Jane > >Do you want me to check East Claydon's churchyard for yo and see if there >are any Hamp's buried there. > >I grew up in Winslow, which is about 3 or 4 miles from East Claydon but am >not familiar with the name Hamp. Do you know if there are any desendents >still in this area? > >Regards > >Amanda > > > > > > >*************************************** > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: New jobsjobsjobs.com.au. Find thousands of jobs online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eau%2Edoubleclick%2Enet%2Fclk%3B114014868%3B17770752%3Bi%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejobsjobsjobs%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=762242361&_r=Hotmail_email_tagline_July07&_m=EXT

Thanks to Ido for ganswering my query that turned out to be "Commission Agent". Alan >From: ldo ldo <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BKM] Definition of name >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:07:09 -0700 (PDT) > >Commission Agent >*************************************** > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: WIN new Jeep Compass & Off-Road Adventure with Trading Post! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etradingpostcompetition%2Ecom%2Eau%2FOffRoadAdventure%2F%3Freferrer%3Dplace83&_t=763756818&_r=hotmail_email_tagline_July07&_m=EXT

Hi All, In reply to the year of the Census regarding George MARKS i advise that it was the 1851 Census. George is listed at living at 108 Thomas Street in Bristol, aged 40 years along with his children, Sarah, Joseph, A?? Flora, Phoebe and servants Sarah Johnson and Mary Ann ?. I obtained a photocopy of the entry but on viewing it it very hard to read. I cannot decipher the name of the his third listed child Anint?? and the surname of the second servant, any help would be appreciated here please. I will have to go back to the library and view it on screen and maybe it is clearer there. This also leads me to find out what happened to George's wife who maybe had died by this date. I think her name was Rosetta Allman but i am still trying to confirm this. Many thanks Alan Australia >From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BKM] Definition of name >Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:37:05 +0100 > >Hi Alan > >It would be very helpful to tell us which census it was you found him in? > >If you can tell us the census page ref there are many out here who could >check the page and most likely answer your enquiry > >There are 22 George MARKS who are enumerated in Bristol Gloucestershire in >the various census, which one is yours? > >Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > > Hi All, > > > > I have George MARKS in Bristol in Gloucestshire and on the Census it >shows > > his occupation as a "COMMIFUCIA". It is hard to read but is something > > similar to this. > > > > Could somebody help me out please? > > > > Regards > > > > Alan > > Australia > >*************************************** > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Search for local singles online at Lavalife http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D29555&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search&_m=EXT

Hi Alan That made it a little easier but the page ref is the best way However I confirm the occupation of Commission Agent George MARKS is a widower The daughter you cannot read is Dinah aged 3 >From freebmd Births Sep 1847 Marks Dinah Bristol 11 121 The second servants name is Mary Ann HOLE aged 13 >From freebmd Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1842 Alman Rosetta Bristol 11 191 JACOBS Hannah Bristol 11 191 Marks George Bristol 11 191 SOLOMON John Bristol 11 191 And Deaths Sep 1850 MARKS Rosetta Bedminster 11 51 I have sent what I hope is a clearer copy to you Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > In reply to the year of the Census regarding George MARKS i advise that it > was the 1851 Census. > > George is listed at living at 108 Thomas Street in Bristol, aged 40 years > along with his children, Sarah, Joseph, A?? Flora, Phoebe and servants > Sarah > Johnson and Mary Ann ?. > > I obtained a photocopy of the entry but on viewing it it very hard to > read. > I cannot decipher the name of the his third listed child Anint?? and the > surname of the second servant, any help would be appreciated here please. > > I will have to go back to the library and view it on screen and maybe it > is > clearer there. > > This also leads me to find out what happened to George's wife who maybe > had > died by this date. I think her name was Rosetta Allman but i am still > trying to confirm this. > > Many thanks > > Alan > Australia

Your father 's birth was registered in the Buckingham RD July quarter 1906 Ref # 3a 1041 You should be able to send for his birth certificate. Margaret Bowyer Guest Message: 1 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:40:03 +1000 From: "Withington Family" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BKM] Padbury To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Amanda or anyone! My father was born at Padbury , althouh his family had lived in Preston Bissett for many (hundreds of) years and moved back to PB after his birth. A relative has access to the PB baptism register & he does not appear there. I would be very appreciative if you ( or a contact in the area) would be able to see if there is an entry for him there? I am happy to reimburse you for any expenses. His details are : Ernest EELEY born 14 June 1906 parents Abraham & Eleanor Many thanks Yvonne Wihington Hobart Australia

Hello I am new to the list. Is there anyone that can do a look up for me . Regarding the surname of MITCHELL `Henry MITCHELL born about 1718 This would be really helpfull if it can be confirmed. and he could have married an Elizabeth , ? Would anyone now this ladies surname. Next generation, was their son John MITCHELL born 27-1-1745. and married Hannah RIDLEY November 11- 1763 in Upton Cum Chalvey.BKM England. Then again their eldest child William MITCHELL. But I do not know his date of birth. It will be grand, and thought much off . if any of this could be achieved. Most of the MITCHELL's are from Stoke -Poges , Upton -Cum -Chalvery, Wexham , Langley Marish, Jeune Mitchell

Thankyou so much Nivard, I appreciate the lookup. Such a shame there's no mention of a marriage, or kiddies, or later career... never mind, this gives me a good starting point. It means he was a latish-marryer (could have been a widower I suppose), so perhaps there weren't any kiddies. Cheers, Celia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 28 July 2007 20:48 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BKM] Rev Matthew KEATE & Newton Blossomville Hi Celia >From Ancestry Oxford Alumni KEATE, Matthew, s. Matthew, of St Martin's, Oxford, pleb. All Souls Coll., matric. 16 July, 1715, aged 16; B.A. 1719 Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Apologies to anyone on Beds and Oxon lists where I've also posted this > query. I'm looking for info on this Revd gentleman who was found in > Stowe, Bucks registers: > 29 Jul 1746 by lic - The Revd Matthew KEATE of Turvey in the co. of > Bedford & Anna Maria CARRINGTON otp (her name could be CUNNINGHAM, but > I think CARRINGTON and if I'm right it's her I'm most interested in). > The Clergy of Church of England database says a Matthew KEATE got a BA > from All Souls, Oxford and was Deacon at Christ Church Cathedral, > Oxford but it also says he died while Rector of Newton Blossomville > (he's listed on GENUKI page for NB, starting as Rector in 1754, which > fits). > Does anyone have more info about him please, or his wife? > > Cheers, Celia > in Chesterfield, UK *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Celia >From Ancestry Oxford Alumni KEATE, Matthew, s. Matthew, of St Martin's, Oxford, pleb. All Souls Coll., matric. 16 July, 1715, aged 16; B.A. 1719 Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Apologies to anyone on Beds and Oxon lists where I've also posted this > query. I'm looking for info on this Revd gentleman who was found in > Stowe, > Bucks registers: > 29 Jul 1746 by lic - The Revd Matthew KEATE of Turvey in the co. of > Bedford > & Anna Maria CARRINGTON otp (her name could be CUNNINGHAM, but I think > CARRINGTON and if I'm right it's her I'm most interested in). > The Clergy of Church of England database says a Matthew KEATE got a BA > from > All Souls, Oxford and was Deacon at Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford but it > also says he died while Rector of Newton Blossomville (he's listed on > GENUKI page for NB, starting as Rector in 1754, which fits). > Does anyone have more info about him please, or his wife? > > Cheers, Celia > in Chesterfield, UK

Apologies to anyone on Beds and Oxon lists where I've also posted this query. I'm looking for info on this Revd gentleman who was found in Stowe, Bucks registers: 29 Jul 1746 by lic - The Revd Matthew KEATE of Turvey in the co. of Bedford & Anna Maria CARRINGTON otp (her name could be CUNNINGHAM, but I think CARRINGTON and if I'm right it's her I'm most interested in). The Clergy of Church of England database says a Matthew KEATE got a BA from All Souls, Oxford and was Deacon at Christ Church Cathedral, Oxford but it also says he died while Rector of Newton Blossomville (he's listed on GENUKI page for NB, starting as Rector in 1754, which fits). Does anyone have more info about him please, or his wife? Cheers, Celia in Chesterfield, UK

Mary Jane, Did you know that Florence Nightingales sister married one of the Verney's, and she would often stay at Claydon House. When you visit Claydon House, you can see Florence Nightingale's bedroom some letters that the soldiers had written to her. Regards Amanda

Sorry, that should be LEVERS of power not leers. Liane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liane Fenimore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Claydon House/HAMP > >From John Broad's 'Transforming English Rural Society: The Verneys and > >the > Claydons 1600-1820' is the following information: > > By 1789 the Verneys were effectively sole proprietors [in East Claydon] as > they had long been in Middle Claydon. In Steeple Claydon where the > Verneys > came to own about one third of the land... > > In 1811, MC has 129 inhabitants, EC had 309 and SC had 704. Broad says > that > because the Verneys owned less of SC more people were able to move in and > thus the population grew and reflected a large number of laborers, > butchers, > bakers, etc., as well as craftsmen and people in service. > > In MC in 1798 the seven farmers were all dairymen. There was one > cordwainer. > > He includes a chart from c 1770 that lists the parishes where the Verneys > held some land and they include: the 3 Claydons, Hogshaw, Grandborough, > Gt > Horwood, Grendon Underwood, Westbury, Biddlesden, Buckingham. The Verneys > all held property outside Buckinghamshire. > > Claydon House and Middle Claydon are part way between SC and EC, so George > Hamp must have worked on Verney property in East Claydon. There were a > lot > of dairy farms around. > > Broad: As the Verneys consolidated power and land ownership in EC along > lines already established in MC, they began to consider the area as a > single > entity. In all three parishes they controlled two of the three major > leers > of power - the church and parson, and the lordship of the manor. In East > and Middle Claydon they were also sole proprietors, while in SC the one > third of the parish that they owned was concentrated close to MC. In 1820 > the gamekeeper was licensed for the estate as a whole, covering the manors > of E, M, and SC. (So your cowman could have lived in EC but worked in MC) > > Broad's book is very interesting, especially if you have ancestors in > these > villages. Some of mine were dairy farmers in Grendon Underwood, others > lived in EC. > > Liane Fenimore > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M. Hamp" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:44 AM > Subject: [BKM] Claydon House/HAMP > > >> Hi: >> >> I have researched Claydon House and the Verney's as my ggrandfather >> George Hamp (b.1839) was a "cowman on the Verney estate". For those of >> you who are familiar with the area, would you kindly tell me where the >> House was in relation to the estate as the House is listed as being in >> Middle Claydon and the estate is in East Claydon? >> >> Any further information or direction/links would be appreciated. >> >> Mary Jane Hamp >> Toronto, Canada >> >> HAMP, DANIEL, BALDWIN, BUTTON, GROVES, SCOTT, CHAMBERS, >> ELMER, TOMLINS, POUNEY (POWNEY), HAMPE >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to >> Yahoo! >> Answers. >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mary Jane, > For those of > you who are familiar with the area, would you kindly tell me where the > House was in relation to the estate as the House is listed as being in > Middle Claydon and the estate is in East Claydon? Could you tell us the source for the listing you mention above? Both Kevin Quick's Bucks Genuki page at http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/MiddleClaydon/ and John Broad's "Transforming English Rural Societz - The Verney's and the Claydons, 1600-1820," suggest Claydon House was situated in the midst of the estates which, after enclosure, formed the bulk if not all of the parish of Middle Claydon. Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany

Hi Mary Jane Do you want me to check East Claydon's churchyard for yo and see if there are any Hamp's buried there. I grew up in Winslow, which is about 3 or 4 miles from East Claydon but am not familiar with the name Hamp. Do you know if there are any desendents still in this area? Regards Amanda

Hi Roberta I live in Padbury, and yes it is a small picturesque village. Lots of thatched cottages, 2 pubs and a butchers shop. Buckingham is 2 1/2 miles up the road. If you want me to, I can check the Churchyard here in Padbury for you and see if there are any Sears buried there, and I can also go to Steeple Claydon for you. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you. Regards Amanda

>From John Broad's 'Transforming English Rural Society: The Verneys and the Claydons 1600-1820' is the following information: By 1789 the Verneys were effectively sole proprietors [in East Claydon] as they had long been in Middle Claydon. In Steeple Claydon where the Verneys came to own about one third of the land... In 1811, MC has 129 inhabitants, EC had 309 and SC had 704. Broad says that because the Verneys owned less of SC more people were able to move in and thus the population grew and reflected a large number of laborers, butchers, bakers, etc., as well as craftsmen and people in service. In MC in 1798 the seven farmers were all dairymen. There was one cordwainer. He includes a chart from c 1770 that lists the parishes where the Verneys held some land and they include: the 3 Claydons, Hogshaw, Grandborough, Gt Horwood, Grendon Underwood, Westbury, Biddlesden, Buckingham. The Verneys all held property outside Buckinghamshire. Claydon House and Middle Claydon are part way between SC and EC, so George Hamp must have worked on Verney property in East Claydon. There were a lot of dairy farms around. Broad: As the Verneys consolidated power and land ownership in EC along lines already established in MC, they began to consider the area as a single entity. In all three parishes they controlled two of the three major leers of power - the church and parson, and the lordship of the manor. In East and Middle Claydon they were also sole proprietors, while in SC the one third of the parish that they owned was concentrated close to MC. In 1820 the gamekeeper was licensed for the estate as a whole, covering the manors of E, M, and SC. (So your cowman could have lived in EC but worked in MC) Broad's book is very interesting, especially if you have ancestors in these villages. Some of mine were dairy farmers in Grendon Underwood, others lived in EC. Liane Fenimore ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Hamp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: [BKM] Claydon House/HAMP > Hi: > > I have researched Claydon House and the Verney's as my ggrandfather > George Hamp (b.1839) was a "cowman on the Verney estate". For those of > you who are familiar with the area, would you kindly tell me where the > House was in relation to the estate as the House is listed as being in > Middle Claydon and the estate is in East Claydon? > > Any further information or direction/links would be appreciated. > > Mary Jane Hamp > Toronto, Canada > > HAMP, DANIEL, BALDWIN, BUTTON, GROVES, SCOTT, CHAMBERS, > ELMER, TOMLINS, POUNEY (POWNEY), HAMPE > > > > --------------------------------- > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! > Answers. > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Jane, Middle & East Claydon would probably be less that 1 mile apart. All 4 Calydons are probably within 2 miles of each other. I'm sure you will find something if you play around with google. I see you are interested in CHAMBERS. I have Alfred George b Chetwode 1846 in my EELEY tree, having married Hannah Rebecca EELEY at Preston Bissett in 1884. Yvonne Withington ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Hamp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:44 AM Subject: [BKM] Claydon House/HAMP > Hi: > > I have researched Claydon House and the Verney's as my ggrandfather > George Hamp (b.1839) was a "cowman on the Verney estate". For those of > you who are familiar with the area, would you kindly tell me where the > House was in relation to the estate as the House is listed as being in > Middle Claydon and the estate is in East Claydon? > > Any further information or direction/links would be appreciated. > > Mary Jane Hamp > Toronto, Canada > > HAMP, DANIEL, BALDWIN, BUTTON, GROVES, SCOTT, CHAMBERS, > ELMER, TOMLINS, POUNEY (POWNEY), HAMPE > > > > --------------------------------- > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! > Answers. > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone My name is Amanda and I live about 4 miles from Claydon House. It would be in Middle Claydon. There are for villages surrounding Claydon House, Middle Claydon, East Claydon, Botolph Claydon and Steeple Claydon. Steeple Claydon being the larger of the four. Regards Amanda Brubaker (Nee HALL) Padbury, Bucks

>There are for villages surrounding Claydon House, Middle Claydon, East Claydon, Botolph Claydon and Steeple Claydon. Steeple Claydon being the larger of the four. Thank you, Amanda, for this information about the towns named Claydon. I live in California and recently subscribed to the Buckingham list in hopes of finding informtion about my ancestor, William SEAR, b. about 1835 in England but was in the United States before 1861. About the only clue I have of his area of origin in England is that he named a son Claydon in the 1880s. A kind soul send me these promising leads from the English census: 1841 in Main St. Padbury, Buckinghamshire living with William Hutchin`s 55 & Elizabeth his wife 50 was a William Sear 6 yrs old 1851 census Hamlet of Bourtonhold, Buckingham, England Living with John Markham age 31 a Blacksmith was his family, and a William Sear age 16 (single) An Apprentice to the Blacksmith! born Steeple Claydon As the wife of John Markham was Ann Hutchins, I think these Williams listed above may be the same person, and my ancestor William Sear was indeed a blacksmith in the United States. I have learned that Padbury is a very small village. Are you familiar with any of these names? Thanks, Roberta

G/Day Mary Jane My great aunt Elizabeth Foskett born 1852 married a Joseph Baldwin in Aston Clinton on the 20th May 1872 . Also a Thomas Halsey married a Frances Baldwin in Cublington 1811 do you have any connection to these Baldwins regards Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Hamp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:44 AM Subject: [BKM] Claydon House/HAMP