Hi Pat I've read some about the families at the 'big house' in Whaddon, but not researched them. I know there was Browne WILLIS (the Dragon of Whaddon) and the SELBY-LOWNDES crew. Not sure they had the same degree of expansionist verve as the VERNEYs though. Hope you'll let us know what you find out if you track them down. Cheers Celia in Chesterfield -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Wade Sent: 03 August 2007 12:54 To: [email protected] Subject: [BKM] WHADDON Hi all, In the parish of Middle Claydon, the VERNEY family seemed to be one of the most influential/ controlling families. Was there such a family in WHADDON? Thank you Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Marian, The LDS have filmed the church registers for the Church of England, parish of Eton (Buckingshire). You should find the information on film #919643. You should be able to hire the film from the LDS Familyhistory Library nearest to you. Would you by any chance know Daniel's parents names? I research the name WYATT also and would be interested in comparing notes with you. Regards Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Barton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 7:46 AM Subject: [BKM] Daniel Frederick WYATT > Looking for a baptism for Daniel Frederick WYATT about 1820 in Eton, > Buckinghamshire. > > I am not sure how to go about finding this information from "across the > pond". > > Any advice or suggestions greatly appreciated. > > Marian Barton in Canada > ***************************************

In reply to Heather's query re middle name STEWARD I found these entries on Hugh Wallis's middle names site if it is of any interest, Hazel; Christenings/Births/Baptisms Date Name Father Mother 14 Dec 1754 Mary STRANGE <javascript:showI(57803622)> Christening Wm. STRANGE Ann Steward 24 Sep 1841 Lucy Steward ROBINSON <javascript:showI(53879363)> Christening William ROBINSON Leah Marriages Date Name Gender Spouse 1 Mar 1879 Mary Elizabeth LEWIS <javascript:showI(38686636)> F Robert Steward ROWE 1 Mar 1879 Robert Steward ROWE <javascript:showI(53887313)> M Mary Elizabeth LEWIS I wonder if someone has a guess about something a little odd I found in Waddesden PRs: William and Anne STRANGE had several children baptised and buried in that parish in the 1750s. They themselves are also buried there, William in the 1750s, and Anne in the 1770s. In a number of these records, Anne is refered to as Ann Steward Strange. At first I thought STEWARD was her maiden name, but I have since found her marriage, and she was Anne MARSHALL. Is Steward just Anne's middle name, or is something else going on here? Thanks, Heather Olsen

Perhaps Steward was the maiden name of Anne's mother? It was often used as a second name for a child. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BKM] Middle name, or something else? I wonder if someone has a guess about something a little odd I found in Waddesden PRs: William and Anne STRANGE had several children baptised and buried in that parish in the 1750s. They themselves are also buried there, William in the 1750s, and Anne in the 1770s. In a number of these records, Anne is refered to as Ann Steward Strange. At first I thought STEWARD was her maiden name, but I have since found her marriage, and she was Anne MARSHALL. Is Steward just Anne's middle name, or is something else going on here? Thanks, Heather Olsen *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[email protected] wrote: > The consensus seems to be that it's just a middle name. You just > don't very often see the middle name of an adult recorded in the > PRs in that time period, so I just wanted to make sure we weren't > dealing with something else. No, don't assume "it's just a middle name". Whether an adult's middle name is recorded would depend on the incumbent, what he asked or whether he knew the person concerned. Unless or until you know who Anne's mother was and whether or unless you know she had a father, there's no way of knowing the significance of her middle name.

It could also be an 'alias'. We had some discussion on those a while back. Her family could have been known as Marshall alias Steward. For various reasons, some families were in this situation. Children would adopt one name or the other. But I would think that an 'alias' would be evident in the parish register wherever she was baptised, which must be other than Waddesdon. And is it certain that her husband didn't have two wives? Anne Marshall and Anne Steward. I had this happen and never did satisfactorily sort it out. (And it took me a long while before I even realized they were two different women) Liane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Firebird" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Middle name, or something else? > [email protected] wrote: > > >> The consensus seems to be that it's just a middle name. You just >> don't very often see the middle name of an adult recorded in the >> PRs in that time period, so I just wanted to make sure we weren't >> dealing with something else. > > No, don't assume "it's just a middle name". > > Whether an adult's middle name is recorded would depend on the > incumbent, what he asked or whether he knew the person concerned. > > Unless or until you know who Anne's mother was and whether or unless > you know she had a father, there's no way of knowing the significance > of her middle name. > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

[email protected] wrote: > I wonder if someone has a guess about something a little odd I > found in Waddesden PRs: > > William and Anne STRANGE had several children baptised and buried > in that parish in the 1750s. They themselves are also buried there, > William in the 1750s, and Anne in the 1770s. > > In a number of these records, Anne is refered to as Ann Steward > Strange. At first I thought STEWARD was her maiden name, but I have > since found her marriage, and she was Anne MARSHALL. > > Is Steward just Anne's middle name, or is something else going on > here? Steward would be her middle name but, as you've discovered, not her maiden name. It isn't an English habit for women to maintain their maiden name as a part of their married name as American women seem to. It's possible that it's her mother's maiden name, not an unusual occurrence. It could also be her grandmother's maiden name, not particularly unusual. If Anne was illegitimate, it could be her reputed father's surname. However, it could be the surname of a friend, business associate, colleague or someone else important to the parents. It's only by tracing back further that you might find the answer.

Hi Heather >From the IGI MARY STRANGE Christening: 14 DEC 1754 Waddesdon, Buckingham, England Father: WM. STRANGE Family Mother: ANN STEWARD C044032 1733 - 1877 0919255 Film 6909195 Film Further complication? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) >I wonder if someone has a guess about something a little odd I found in >Waddesden PRs: > > William and Anne STRANGE had several children baptised and buried in that > parish in the 1750s. They > themselves are also buried there, William in the 1750s, and Anne in the > 1770s. > > In a number of these records, Anne is refered to as Ann Steward Strange. > At first I thought STEWARD > was her maiden name, but I have since found her marriage, and she was Anne > MARSHALL. > > Is Steward just Anne's middle name, or is something else going on here? > > Thanks, > Heather Olsen

hi heather it could possibly be her mothers maiden name. quite a few of mine have their mothers maiden name as middle names. in one family every child has mums maiden name as a middle name. maybe someone else has a different theory? susie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: [BKM] Middle name, or something else? >I wonder if someone has a guess about something a little odd I found in >Waddesden PRs: > > William and Anne STRANGE had several children baptised and buried in that > parish in the 1750s. They > themselves are also buried there, William in the 1750s, and Anne in the > 1770s. > > In a number of these records, Anne is refered to as Ann Steward Strange. > At first I thought STEWARD > was her maiden name, but I have since found her marriage, and she was Anne > MARSHALL. > > Is Steward just Anne's middle name, or is something else going on here? > > Thanks, > Heather Olsen > > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 > 17:02 > >

Could SKS look up the death of Elizabeth MITCHELL Who was born Elizabeth SWABEY in early1850 in Windsor ref (6 301 ). Elizabeth married 1st a William WINCHCOMBE.. on 11. October 1871 in Stoke Poges. Then 10th May1889 Wexham Buckinghamshire.England. she married 2nd William MITCHELL They had two sons of this marriage. Arthur born 1890 Wexham Buckinghamshire England. Charles Edward MITCHELL My father in law. I have a date here , but not sure if it is a birth or Baptism date. It is 06. December1892 Stoke Poges, All that I know is that Elizabeth was alive in1901 Census for Buckinghamshire, England.age 51 years. William MITCHELL was 46 years it would be extra nice if the death of husband. William's could be found. too Best wishes Jeune Witney Oxon.

Thanks Margaret, I have his birth cert, but I am looking for a baptism. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret & Barry Guest To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Ernest EELEY Your father 's birth was registered in the Buckingham RD July quarter 1906 Ref # 3a 1041 You should be able to send for his birth certificate. Margaret Bowyer Guest Message: 1 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:40:03 +1000 From: "Withington Family" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BKM] Padbury To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Amanda or anyone! My father was born at Padbury , althouh his family had lived in Preston Bissett for many (hundreds of) years and moved back to PB after his birth. A relative has access to the PB baptism register & he does not appear there. I would be very appreciative if you ( or a contact in the area) would be able to see if there is an entry for him there? I am happy to reimburse you for any expenses. His details are : Ernest EELEY born 14 June 1906 parents Abraham & Eleanor Many thanks Yvonne Wihington Hobart Australia

The original record for this bap. says William and Ann Steward Strange. I assume the IGI abstracter made the same mistake I initialy made and assumed it was a maiden name. The consensus seems to be that it's just a middle name. You just don't very often see the middle name of an adult recorded in the PRs in that time period, so I just wanted to make sure we weren't dealing with something else. Thanks, Heather ------- Original Message ------- >From : Nivard Ovington[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 7/31/2007 11:00:38 AM To : [email protected]; [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [BKM] Middle name, or something else? Hi Heather >From the IGI MARY STRANGE Christening: 14 DEC 1754 Waddesdon, Buckingham, England Father: WM. STRANGE Family Mother: ANN STEWARD C044032 1733 - 1877 0919255 Film 6909195 Film Further complication? Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) >I wonder if someone has a guess about something a little odd I found in >Waddesden PRs: > > William and Anne STRANGE had several children baptised and buried in that > parish in the 1750s. They > themselves are also buried there, William in the 1750s, and Anne in the > 1770s. > > In a number of these records, Anne is refered to as Ann Steward Strange. > At first I thought STEWARD > was her maiden name, but I have since found her marriage, and she was Anne > MARSHALL. > > Is Steward just Anne's middle name, or is something else going on here? > > Thanks, > Heather Olsen *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder if someone has a guess about something a little odd I found in Waddesden PRs: William and Anne STRANGE had several children baptised and buried in that parish in the 1750s. They themselves are also buried there, William in the 1750s, and Anne in the 1770s. In a number of these records, Anne is refered to as Ann Steward Strange. At first I thought STEWARD was her maiden name, but I have since found her marriage, and she was Anne MARSHALL. Is Steward just Anne's middle name, or is something else going on here? Thanks, Heather Olsen

Thanks so much Liane - what a find - that is, both the KEATE reference and the full index book on Google. Cheers, Celia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liane Fenimore Sent: 29 July 2007 16:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BKM] Rev Matthew KEATE & Newton Blossomville Another scrap of info - Nivard's message indicates he was the son of Matthew of St. Martin's, Oxford, and there is an entry on Google books for a man with this name in the Oxfordshire will index (court of the chancellor of the university of Oxford) - for Matthew Keate, barber, A 24 Jan. 1732. If this should be his father, the man died before the Rev. married, so if any grandchildren they won't show up. Liane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Renshaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Rev Matthew KEATE & Newton Blossomville > Thankyou so much Nivard, I appreciate the lookup. Such a shame there's no > mention of a marriage, or kiddies, or later career... never mind, this > gives > me a good starting point. It means he was a latish-marryer (could have > been > a widower I suppose), so perhaps there weren't any kiddies. > > Cheers, Celia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 28 July 2007 20:48 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BKM] Rev Matthew KEATE & Newton Blossomville > > Hi Celia > >>From Ancestry Oxford Alumni > > KEATE, Matthew, s. Matthew, of St Martin's, Oxford, pleb. All Souls Coll., > matric. 16 July, 1715, aged 16; B.A. 1719 > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > >

Hi Amanda or anyone! My father was born at Padbury , althouh his family had lived in Preston Bissett for many (hundreds of) years and moved back to PB after his birth. A relative has access to the PB baptism register & he does not appear there. I would be very appreciative if you ( or a contact in the area) would be able to see if there is an entry for him there? I am happy to reimburse you for any expenses. His details are : Ernest EELEY born 14 June 1906 parents Abraham & Eleanor Many thanks Yvonne Wihington Hobart Australia

These Buckinghamshire folk married in Market Harborough, Leicestershire Michael MARR of Newport Pagnell BKM, widower Alice MARTIN otp, spinster 1826 28-Nov William CRIPPS of Newport Pagnell BKM, bachelor Elizabeth HEYGATE otp, spinster 1828 6-Aug George Osborn ROGERS of Newport Pagnell BKM, bachelor Martha GODDARD otp, spinster 1830 17-Sep Marilyn Ponting Details of various Northants indexes http://www.northants-familytree.net/ Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca

Another scrap of info - Nivard's message indicates he was the son of Matthew of St. Martin's, Oxford, and there is an entry on Google books for a man with this name in the Oxfordshire will index (court of the chancellor of the university of Oxford) - for Matthew Keate, barber, A 24 Jan. 1732. If this should be his father, the man died before the Rev. married, so if any grandchildren they won't show up. Liane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Celia Renshaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Rev Matthew KEATE & Newton Blossomville > Thankyou so much Nivard, I appreciate the lookup. Such a shame there's no > mention of a marriage, or kiddies, or later career... never mind, this > gives > me a good starting point. It means he was a latish-marryer (could have > been > a widower I suppose), so perhaps there weren't any kiddies. > > Cheers, Celia > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 28 July 2007 20:48 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BKM] Rev Matthew KEATE & Newton Blossomville > > Hi Celia > >>From Ancestry Oxford Alumni > > KEATE, Matthew, s. Matthew, of St Martin's, Oxford, pleb. All Souls Coll., > matric. 16 July, 1715, aged 16; B.A. 1719 > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > >> Apologies to anyone on Beds and Oxon lists where I've also posted this >> query. I'm looking for info on this Revd gentleman who was found in >> Stowe, Bucks registers: >> 29 Jul 1746 by lic - The Revd Matthew KEATE of Turvey in the co. of >> Bedford & Anna Maria CARRINGTON otp (her name could be CUNNINGHAM, but >> I think CARRINGTON and if I'm right it's her I'm most interested in). >> The Clergy of Church of England database says a Matthew KEATE got a BA >> from All Souls, Oxford and was Deacon at Christ Church Cathedral, >> Oxford but it also says he died while Rector of Newton Blossomville >> (he's listed on GENUKI page for NB, starting as Rector in 1754, which >> fits). >> Does anyone have more info about him please, or his wife? >> >> Cheers, Celia >> in Chesterfield, UK > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Amanda, After reading your previous listing i opened up this one to see that you live in Padbury. My William BUTCHER married Mary Fletcher in Padbury on 24 February 1842. I have a copy of their marriage certificate. William and Mary had two children Mary INNS and John Fletcher but John died on 18 January 1818, aged 3 years and is buried in Padbury. William and Mary migrated to Australia in 1847 and had a further child born on the journey but unfortunately Mary died at 28 years of age 6 weeks after arriving in Australia and her son William died three weeks later leaving William to bring up his child Mary on his own. William married again and had 8 children. I just thought you may be interested what happened to somebody that had previously lived in Padbury. Regards Alan Australia >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BKM] Claydon House/HAMP >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:23:12 EDT > >Hi Roberta > >I live in Padbury, and yes it is a small picturesque village. Lots of >thatched cottages, 2 pubs and a butchers shop. Buckingham is 2 1/2 miles >up the >road. > >If you want me to, I can check the Churchyard here in Padbury for you and >see if there are any Sears buried there, and I can also go to Steeple >Claydon >for you. > >Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you. > >Regards > >Amanda > > > > >*************************************** > >BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Search for local singles online at Lavalife http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D29555&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search&_m=EXT

Hi Jeune There is a marriage on freebmd that may be worth checking out ? Marriages Sep 1913 Mitchell Arthur Lyford Eton 3a 2096 (LYFORDs first name is Agnes) And a birth Births Dec 1913 Mitchell William A Lyford Eton 3a 1753 Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Good morning. > Yesterday for the first time I sent to the Bucks list . For look up > regarding ,Surname of MITCHELL.My Father in law, was one of two sons of > William Mitchell and Elizabeth Mitchell This was The second marriage for > Elizabeth. Elizabeth had been born a Elizabeth SWABEY. and her first > marriage was to a