Hello Paul, your Darvells are too old for me! My earliest Darvell is William born 1746 probably in Chesham...all the subsequent generations were from Chesham. Sue Scarth Lawrence Hughes Ryan Harris Lane Leighton Marsh Smith Crisp Patterson Grimshaw Davis Simpson Hesketh Richardson Jones Watson Linklater Walker Wheeldon Wilson are all names of interest to me. ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul Irving <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 17 October, 2007 8:19:08 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests Where have you got with your DARVELLs? I have some - see http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pji&I11.x=0&I11.y=0 I also have a little more information than is on that tree, so if you have any specific questions, particularly if they're about Darvells on that tree, or linked to anyone on it, I may be able to help. Paul SUSAN DIXON wrote: > Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! > Sue > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robert my Spicers came from Bierton do no obvious link. thankyou for replying. Sue Scarth Lawrence Hughes Ryan Harris Lane Leighton Marsh Smith Crisp Patterson Grimshaw Davis Simpson Hesketh Richardson Jones Watson Linklater Walker Wheeldon Wilson are all names of interest to me. ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert Amies <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 17 October, 2007 10:29:03 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests [SPICER and PEARCE] Sue, I have... Susanna SPICER (b1814) m Samuel HEARN (1814 ~ 1888) at Chesham on 29 Sept 1835. Amelia PEARCE (b abt1838) m [Daniel] Samuel AMIES (1837 ~ 1912) at Townfield Yard Chapel on 18 July 1889. If either of these are part of your "tree" I would love to hear from you. There were many PUDDIFOOTs and variants in the Chesham area. Regards, Robert -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SUSAN DIXON Sent: 17 October 2007 19:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests Posting my Buckinghamshire interests GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! Sue *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow, thanks Doug, I shall file all that information and will certainly bear in mind the variation in spelling. Thankyou again for taking the trouble to reply. Sue Scarth Lawrence Hughes Ryan Harris Lane Leighton Marsh Smith Crisp Patterson Grimshaw Davis Simpson Hesketh Richardson Jones Watson Linklater Walker Wheeldon Wilson are all names of interest to me. ----- Original Message ---- From: Dougr <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 18 October, 2007 12:53:06 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests Hi Susan The Puddifoot Name My Mother's maiden name was Puddephatt which is one of the variants that also include Puddifoot, Pudifoot, Puddefoot, Puddiphatt, Pudefat, Pudifat and Podifat She always said that when she was at school other children called her 'Pudding Fat' - which is hardly surprising as her surname was Puddephatt. This nickname was not far off the original derivation of the name. The first element of the name 'Pudde' is probably the dialectal 'puddy' or 'poddy' which in Old English meant round or stout in the belly. This came from the Germanic root 'pud(d) meaning to swell or bulge (i.e. as found in the word 'pudding' - which is something that swells up when cooked). In Low German the word 'puddig' meant thick or stumpy. In Old English the word 'puduc' meant a wen (ie a fat spot or lump) and the dialectal 'pod' was used to describe a large protuberant belly (in which form it still is often used). In Modern English peas grow in a pod that swells up as the peas inside ripen. It is clear that the second element 'Phatt' is not 'foot' but 'fat' from the Old English 'fat' meaning a vessel. With the introduction of the letter 'v' into English (it was not used in Old German) this word became our 'vat' meaning tub or cask. So someone given the name Puddephatt would be a person with a prominent paunch. In medieval England the 'd' would have been pronounced as a 't'. Thus Pudifat (and Puddephatt) would have been pronounced 'putifat' or even 'putifet'. The 't' pronunciation lives on in modern English words such a pot and potty - a fat pot (or Pudifat) that goes under the bed. The earliest reference to the name that I can locate is one Roger Pudifat in Cambridgeshire in 1188. The same gentleman (or someone of the same name) reappears in Hertfordshire in 1233. In 1212 there was a Herbert Pudifat in Yorkshire and in 1213 a Richard Pudefed in Oxfordshire. As spelling did not start to become standardised until the 17th century and as spoken English underwent a great vowel shift some two centuries earlier there are many different written versions of the name one of which was Puddifoot. Even in the 20th Century my Mother found that most people when writing her surname would spell it Puddifoot not Puddephatt. Pddifoot seems to roll off the tongue easier in the Bedfordshire/Buckinghamshire dialects. It would appear that the surname in its many different forms was largely restricted to the counties of Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire. So it would appear that for the past 1000 years the Puddephatts/Puddifoots have not been great travellers. If you get stuck chasing back your Puddifoot forebears try looking up the other spelling variants and try searching in North Hertfordshire in particular. Cheers Doug Rickard Sydney, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUSAN DIXON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:03 AM Subject: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! > Sue > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Thomas West, I know nothing about him! His son William was born 1821 in Wycombe and William had a daughter called Emily in 1846 in the Missenden area. Sue Scarth Lawrence Hughes Ryan Harris Lane Leighton Marsh Smith Crisp Patterson Grimshaw Davis Simpson Hesketh Richardson Jones Watson Linklater Walker Wheeldon Wilson are all names of interest to me. ----- Original Message ---- From: Andrea Franks <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 18 October, 2007 10:35:01 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests Hello Sue, I have West in my line from the Hughendon, Great Missenden area, Robert WEST x Elizabeth ? their son Frederick Bennett c 06.01.1793 (G.M.) Frederick Bennett WEST x 07.02.1811 (G.M.) Sarah FRITH, (Frederick second was to Martha BIGGS). Frederick and Sarah daughter Maria b 01.12.1811, married James RODWELL. Any connection. Regards Andrea -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 18 October 2007 08:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests In a message dated 17/10/2007 19:10:49 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Posting my Buckinghamshire interests GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! Sue *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 2007/10/17 07:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 2007/10/17 07:53 PM *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Pearces came from Holmer Green, Joseph born 1780 Charles born 1810 Jeffery born 1831 Frank born 1869. Sue Scarth Lawrence Hughes Ryan Harris Lane Leighton Marsh Smith Crisp Patterson Grimshaw Davis Simpson Hesketh Richardson Jones Watson Linklater Walker Wheeldon Wilson are all names of interest to me. ----- Original Message ---- From: Ruth Webb <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 18 October, 2007 1:31:13 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests I also have West and Pearce/Pierce in my lines. Earliest West so far is Willam, married Mary Chilton in Hughenden, 1763. The Pearces are from the Lee and Wendover area, back to John, born about 1776 at the Lee and married Ann Verney in 1855 at the Lee. I also have another line at Little Missenden which I've yet to follow, so far I only have Mary Pierce born about 1800. Any connections? Ruth Brown, Redrup, West, Pearce/Pierce, James, Charge, Elmore, Webb. SUSAN DIXON wrote: > Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! > Sue > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also have West and Pearce/Pierce in my lines. Earliest West so far is Willam, married Mary Chilton in Hughenden, 1763. The Pearces are from the Lee and Wendover area, back to John, born about 1776 at the Lee and married Ann Verney in 1855 at the Lee. I also have another line at Little Missenden which I've yet to follow, so far I only have Mary Pierce born about 1800. Any connections? Ruth Brown, Redrup, West, Pearce/Pierce, James, Charge, Elmore, Webb. SUSAN DIXON wrote: > Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! > Sue > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hello Sue, I have West in my line from the Hughendon, Great Missenden area, Robert WEST x Elizabeth ? their son Frederick Bennett c 06.01.1793 (G.M.) Frederick Bennett WEST x 07.02.1811 (G.M.) Sarah FRITH, (Frederick second was to Martha BIGGS). Frederick and Sarah daughter Maria b 01.12.1811, married James RODWELL. Any connection. Regards Andrea -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 18 October 2007 08:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests In a message dated 17/10/2007 19:10:49 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Posting my Buckinghamshire interests GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! Sue *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 2007/10/17 07:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 2007/10/17 07:53 PM

Hi Ruth, I also have John Pearce and Ann Verney in my tree. Their daughter Ann married James Pearce - well I think she did, have still to find absolute proof of it yet although all the information I have at the moment points to their marriage. Eileen

Hi Susan The Puddifoot Name My Mother's maiden name was Puddephatt which is one of the variants that also include Puddifoot, Pudifoot, Puddefoot, Puddiphatt, Pudefat, Pudifat and Podifat She always said that when she was at school other children called her 'Pudding Fat' - which is hardly surprising as her surname was Puddephatt. This nickname was not far off the original derivation of the name. The first element of the name 'Pudde' is probably the dialectal 'puddy' or 'poddy' which in Old English meant round or stout in the belly. This came from the Germanic root 'pud(d) meaning to swell or bulge (i.e. as found in the word 'pudding' - which is something that swells up when cooked). In Low German the word 'puddig' meant thick or stumpy. In Old English the word 'puduc' meant a wen (ie a fat spot or lump) and the dialectal 'pod' was used to describe a large protuberant belly (in which form it still is often used). In Modern English peas grow in a pod that swells up as the peas inside ripen. It is clear that the second element 'Phatt' is not 'foot' but 'fat' from the Old English 'fat' meaning a vessel. With the introduction of the letter 'v' into English (it was not used in Old German) this word became our 'vat' meaning tub or cask. So someone given the name Puddephatt would be a person with a prominent paunch. In medieval England the 'd' would have been pronounced as a 't'. Thus Pudifat (and Puddephatt) would have been pronounced 'putifat' or even 'putifet'. The 't' pronunciation lives on in modern English words such a pot and potty - a fat pot (or Pudifat) that goes under the bed. The earliest reference to the name that I can locate is one Roger Pudifat in Cambridgeshire in 1188. The same gentleman (or someone of the same name) reappears in Hertfordshire in 1233. In 1212 there was a Herbert Pudifat in Yorkshire and in 1213 a Richard Pudefed in Oxfordshire. As spelling did not start to become standardised until the 17th century and as spoken English underwent a great vowel shift some two centuries earlier there are many different written versions of the name one of which was Puddifoot. Even in the 20th Century my Mother found that most people when writing her surname would spell it Puddifoot not Puddephatt. Pddifoot seems to roll off the tongue easier in the Bedfordshire/Buckinghamshire dialects. It would appear that the surname in its many different forms was largely restricted to the counties of Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire. So it would appear that for the past 1000 years the Puddephatts/Puddifoots have not been great travellers. If you get stuck chasing back your Puddifoot forebears try looking up the other spelling variants and try searching in North Hertfordshire in particular. Cheers Doug Rickard Sydney, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "SUSAN DIXON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:03 AM Subject: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! > Sue > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 17/10/2007 19:10:49 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Posting my Buckinghamshire interests GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! Sue Hi Sue, I have a large PEARCE family who lived in The Lee, near Great Missenden. I have traced them back to William PEARCE born about 1775. The latest one I have is my great grandmother, Elizabeth Charlotte PEARCE (born Charlotte Elizabeth) who married Alfred CHANDLER. She was born 20th June 1867 at Swan Bottom. If there is any connection I would be happy to exchange information. Eileen

Robert - Amelia Pearce was the sister of my great great grandmother, Martha Pearce (b. 1835, Great Missenden), who married John Fleet in 1858. Are we related ????!!!!! Eunice Robert Amies wrote: > Sue, > > I have... > > Susanna SPICER (b1814) m Samuel HEARN (1814 ~ 1888) at Chesham on 29 Sept > 1835. > > Amelia PEARCE (b abt1838) m [Daniel] Samuel AMIES (1837 ~ 1912) at Townfield > Yard Chapel on 18 July 1889. > > If either of these are part of your "tree" I would love to hear from you. > > There were many PUDDIFOOTs and variants in the Chesham area. > > Regards, > Robert > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of SUSAN DIXON > Sent: 17 October 2007 19:03 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL > SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING > FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them > down! > Sue > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net > >

Sue, I have... Susanna SPICER (b1814) m Samuel HEARN (1814 ~ 1888) at Chesham on 29 Sept 1835. Amelia PEARCE (b abt1838) m [Daniel] Samuel AMIES (1837 ~ 1912) at Townfield Yard Chapel on 18 July 1889. If either of these are part of your "tree" I would love to hear from you. There were many PUDDIFOOTs and variants in the Chesham area. Regards, Robert -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SUSAN DIXON Sent: 17 October 2007 19:03 To: [email protected] Subject: [BKM] Posting my Buckinghamshire interests Posting my Buckinghamshire interests GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! Sue *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where have you got with your DARVELLs? I have some - see http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pji&I11.x=0&I11.y=0 I also have a little more information than is on that tree, so if you have any specific questions, particularly if they're about Darvells on that tree, or linked to anyone on it, I may be able to help. Paul SUSAN DIXON wrote: > Posting my Buckinghamshire interests > > GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! > Sue > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Posting my Buckinghamshire interests GUN WRIGHT PEARCE WEST PETTY SADLER FINCHER PRYOR LANGSTON SPICER WHITHALL SPICER BRAZIER TILBURY DARVELL HAZEL TAYLOR JESKINS HAZEL PUDDIFOOT READING FLEXMAN ...I had no idea there were so many til I started to write them down! Sue

Hello Helen, I noticed a mistake in my previous message: John Gunn and Elizabeth Cutter's daughter should have read Sarah Gunn (b1809). On another scrape of paper I have recorded Joseph Gunn(b1771)M Ann Friday(1780) their children Sarah(b1804), Ann(b1807), John(1809)M Elizabeth Cutter, Thomas(b1812), Mary(b1816)and Joseph(b1817) Keith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BKM] GUN Thanks for the info. I have Gunns on my tree- Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] GUN > I'm not researching the Gunn name; I do have this info on Gunn's. > John Gunn (b1809) Married Elizabeth Cutter (b1813). There daughter Sarah > Cutter (b1836) in Great Kimble married Thomas Clay (b1831) of Monks > Risborough, Bucks on Feb 17, 1856. They had 12 children. > Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of SUSAN DIXON > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:02 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BKM] GUN > > Is anyone researching the Gun family, Phillis married in Chesham in 1807? > Sue > > Scarth Lawrence Hughes Ryan Harris Lane Leighton Marsh Smith Crisp Patterson > Grimshaw Davis Simpson Hesketh Richardson Jones Watson > Linklater Walker Wheeldon Wilson are all names of interest to me. > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 > 6:43 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 > 6:43 PM > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1059 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 8:44 AM > > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1069 - Release Date: 10/13/2007 7:26 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1074 - Release Date: 10/16/2007 2:14 PM

[email protected] wrote: > I am trying to sort out some people (mostly farmers and > blacksmiths) who lived in 17th century Turweston, where the PRs > don't survive. I'm wondering if someone whose ancestors showed the > good judgement to live in parishes with surviving parish records > can give me some insights into typical ages at first marriage in > this period. Legally it could be anything from 12 for a girl or 14 for a boy. The registers for your period of interest that I've seen have shown a wide variety of ages from late teens to early 30s. At least one lady didn't marry for the first time until she was in her 50s. This was in a village with a lot of farms, and two blacksmiths most of the time. There was no hard and fast rule but the majority were in their early 20s. However, what was a norm in one place, needn't be the norm in another.

There's a Hannah Palmer who died in Whitchurch aged 56 in 1942 Jul/Aug/Sept Q. There's an Amos Palmer who died in Aylesbury aged 80 in Oct/Nov/Dec Q. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. > Opps, I made a mistake... Amos died in 1942 not 1935 - Sorry. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:50 AM > Subject: Re: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. > > >> Anne, >> >> Thanks very much for looking... It is strange though, as on his death >> certificate it says that he was living in Brill when he died. >> >> Was there a non-conformist church in/near Brill? Amos and Hannah's >> children >> were baptised in Bicester Congregational Church (whilst they lived in >> Bicester). >> >> Thanks >> Sarah. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anne Kennedy" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. >> >> >>> Have looked, but so far no trace. >>> Regards >>> Anne. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:23 AM >>> Subject: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. >>> >>> >>>> Good morning! >>>> >>>> Would s.k.s. please lookup the burial of Amos and Hannah Palmer. I >>>> believe they both died in 1935, in Bril. >>>> >>>> Many Thanks, >>>> Sarah. >>>> *************************************** >>>> >>>> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >>>> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >>>> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: >>>> 12/10/2007 18:02 >>>> >>>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >>> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >>> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1069 - Release Date: > 13/10/2007 19:26 > >

Opps, I made a mistake... Amos died in 1942 not 1935 - Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. > Anne, > > Thanks very much for looking... It is strange though, as on his death > certificate it says that he was living in Brill when he died. > > Was there a non-conformist church in/near Brill? Amos and Hannah's > children > were baptised in Bicester Congregational Church (whilst they lived in > Bicester). > > Thanks > Sarah. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Kennedy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. > > >> Have looked, but so far no trace. >> Regards >> Anne. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:23 AM >> Subject: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. >> >> >>> Good morning! >>> >>> Would s.k.s. please lookup the burial of Amos and Hannah Palmer. I >>> believe they both died in 1935, in Bril. >>> >>> Many Thanks, >>> Sarah. >>> *************************************** >>> >>> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >>> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >>> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: >>> 12/10/2007 18:02 >>> >>> >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Anne, Thanks very much for looking... It is strange though, as on his death certificate it says that he was living in Brill when he died. Was there a non-conformist church in/near Brill? Amos and Hannah's children were baptised in Bicester Congregational Church (whilst they lived in Bicester). Thanks Sarah. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Kennedy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. > Have looked, but so far no trace. > Regards > Anne. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sarah" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:23 AM > Subject: [BKM] Amos & Hannah Palmer - BRILL. > > >> Good morning! >> >> Would s.k.s. please lookup the burial of Amos and Hannah Palmer. I >> believe they both died in 1935, in Bril. >> >> Many Thanks, >> Sarah. >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: >> 12/10/2007 18:02 >> >> > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to sort out some people (mostly farmers and blacksmiths) who lived in 17th century Turweston, where the PRs don't survive. I'm wondering if someone whose ancestors showed the good judgement to live in parishes with surviving parish records can give me some insights into typical ages at first marriage in this period. The 18th century descendants of these people mostly married in their late 20s or early 30s, and I'm wondering if that would have been typical of the 17th century as well, or whether there might have been more who married younger. I know the Civil War and the Plague made 17th century mortality rates higher than in the 18th century, and I'm wondering if that might have provided more openings for people to marry earlier. Thanks, Heather Olsen