Paul, thank you for looking. I was wondering what son do the Moores have that was born Upper Winchendon about 1819 and 32 in 1851? That would have made him about 22 in 1841 and I don't see a son aged 22. Thank you, June ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Irving To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Hyde Family No, that he was not born in Buckinghamshire, & the rest were. The 1841 census did not give any more detail about birthplace, & unfortunately Thomas died before the 1851 census, which gave exact birthplaces. I looked for his marriage & his wifes birth in Aylesbury, but didn't find either. The Moores lot have a son born Upper Winchendon about 1819 (32 in the 1851 census), what could be a brother 5 years older born in the same village (draper, Market Square, Aylesbury - looks like the one who was living with Thomas & his family in 1841), so that could be a good place to start. The village isn't on the IGI, but the Bucks FHS has transcribed the PRs from 1737 onwards. Paul June Dugaro wrote: > Paul, for Thomas Hyde 1841 you wrote out of county. Does that simply mean that he wasn't born in Aylesbury and rest were? > > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul, in the 1851 census , Silver Street, Aylesbury, John Moores, 69, born Hitcham BKM, a Malt Dealer. May I ask if you know what a malt dealer is and is there anyway I could get more information on John Moores? Thank you, June ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Irving To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Hyde Family St. Marys, Aylesbury 29 Feb 1832 Mary Ann chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE, Grocer. Private baptism. 16 Aug 1833 Thomas chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE. 3 Jul 1834 (my, they were busy!) Henry son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. Private baptism, received into church. 26 May 1836 Sarah Anne, dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. Private baptism, received into church. 19 Aug 1839 Mary Maria chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. 20 Aug 1842 Jospeh John chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer, private baptism. Burial 9 Jun 1842 - Thomas Hyde, aged 46, of Aylesbury. 1841 census - Market Square, Aylesbury Thomas HYDE 45 Grocer born out of county All below born in county - Mary 30 Thos 8 Harry 6 Sarah 5 Mary Maria 3 William 8m John MOORES 26 Sh.? Plus two apprentices, one female servant - all born out of county 1851 census - Silver Street, Aylesbury - William Elliott HYDE, 10, b Aylesbury, grandson, scholar, in household of John MOORES, 69, b Hitcham BKM - Malt Dealer Parsons Fee, Aylesbury - Frances R. TURNER Head unm 62 b Sudbury DBY Schoolmistress ... Sarah HYDE, 15, b Aylesbury. Teacher (Asst) Church Lane, High Wycombe Anne CLARKE head unm 36 b Bledlow Schoolmistress ... J. H. HYDE (female) Pupil age 14 b Aylesbury Scholar Paul June Dugaro wrote: > Hello > > I was wondering if anyone could help me? I am looking for any information on my gg grandmother Sarah Ann Hyde and her parents. I believe Sarah was born in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire around 1831 and died July 18, 1878. She had a sister Mary Maria born in 1838 Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire. I am not sure but I think her parents might have been Thomas Hyde and Mary ?? Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you kindly, June > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul, for Thomas Hyde 1841 you wrote out of county. Does that simply mean that he wasn't born in Aylesbury and rest were? Thank you, June ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Irving To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [BKM] Hyde Family St. Marys, Aylesbury 29 Feb 1832 Mary Ann chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE, Grocer. Private baptism. 16 Aug 1833 Thomas chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE. 3 Jul 1834 (my, they were busy!) Henry son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. Private baptism, received into church. 26 May 1836 Sarah Anne, dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. Private baptism, received into church. 19 Aug 1839 Mary Maria chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. 20 Aug 1842 Jospeh John chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer, private baptism. Burial 9 Jun 1842 - Thomas Hyde, aged 46, of Aylesbury. 1841 census - Market Square, Aylesbury Thomas HYDE 45 Grocer born out of county All below born in county - Mary 30 Thos 8 Harry 6 Sarah 5 Mary Maria 3 William 8m John MOORES 26 Sh.? Plus two apprentices, one female servant - all born out of county 1851 census - Silver Street, Aylesbury - William Elliott HYDE, 10, b Aylesbury, grandson, scholar, in household of John MOORES, 69, b Hitcham BKM - Malt Dealer Parsons Fee, Aylesbury - Frances R. TURNER Head unm 62 b Sudbury DBY Schoolmistress ... Sarah HYDE, 15, b Aylesbury. Teacher (Asst) Church Lane, High Wycombe Anne CLARKE head unm 36 b Bledlow Schoolmistress ... J. H. HYDE (female) Pupil age 14 b Aylesbury Scholar Paul June Dugaro wrote: > Hello > > I was wondering if anyone could help me? I am looking for any information on my gg grandmother Sarah Ann Hyde and her parents. I believe Sarah was born in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire around 1831 and died July 18, 1878. She had a sister Mary Maria born in 1838 Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire. I am not sure but I think her parents might have been Thomas Hyde and Mary ?? Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you kindly, June > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you. I live in Canada so not able to visit the Berkshire office. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Irving To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [BKM] Hyde Family Since my only known Berkshire ancestor married in Reading ca 1600, I've not studied Berkshire sources other than the very earliest Reading parish registers. So sorry, no. The Berkshire list might be able to help. The Berks FHS has a library, next to the local archives, & there are probably regular visitors to both who are familiar with the records. I'm afraid that to me, Chaddleworth means The Ibex, & since it now has a website with an extensive wine list but not a single mention of beer, I've gone off it. Paul June Dugaro wrote: > Paul.....many thanks. > > As you have been so helpful with Aylesbury would you happen to know where I could find out info on my other gr, gr, gr, grandparents Thomas and Lydia Whiting probably born in Chaddleworth, Bekshre and married around 1823? > > Thank you, June > *************************************** BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BTW, I came across this - http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/html_sessions/T18200918.html James Sherriff as witness in a criminal trial - and not even in Aylesbury. Paul > > From: "Deirdre Mooney" <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/01/02 Wed AM 11:12:21 GMT > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BKM] SHERRIFF > > Thankyou Paul, I appreciate your help. I will look into these...sincerely > Deirdre > > > > > you can buy a transcript (on CD) of the parish registers of Aylesbury St. > > Mary from Bucks FHS at www.bucksfhs.org.uk. > > > > You can buy certificates - birth, marriage, death - at > > http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ > > References needed for ordering certificates can be found at > > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl > > > > The 1841 census, showing James Sherrif & family at the prison, is online, > > free, at - http://lanchbury.id.au/genealogy/aylesbury1841.html > > > > Paul > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Hello Listers, I wonder if someone can help me with information on my family SHERRIFF of Aylesbury Buckinghamshire please. I have been told they are a large family and that several generations of them were Wardens of the Goal. I note that the Sherriff family were Christenened at St Mary's Aylesbury, and possibly marriages as well, I would like to know how to purchase copies of documents about this family and if Paul or anyone else with spare time :) would be able to fill in some details for me please I would be so grateful for the kindness. It would be just great to meet with a relative or someone who is researching this name as I can fill a book from this end with the Australian info that I have. Sincere thanks for reading my email, Happy New Year to All Deirdre

Hi Listers, a big thank you to all on the list who have helped me sort out my LACEY ancestors and the undecipherable handwriting of the enumerator for that area. Thanks again. Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham

Hello Sylvia Whilst the headline on the Find My Past web site reads 'Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960' the data has only got as far as 1939 at the moment so you will have to wait a few more months for them to enter the departures up to 1957. Mike your cousin in Shropshire, UK _________________________________________ [email protected] wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 8:20 AM > Subject: passeger lists and ships 1957 > > > Good morning from Kentucky. > I noticed this a.m that find my past is now showing the passenger lists, 1890-1960. > > Is there a way to find what ships sailed from Southampton April 1957, my late husband sailed for Canada. it was not a British ship, the letter O sticks in my mind as the first letter. > > Obviously the site can't help me, I emigrated later, but flew into New York, and found mine on Ancestry. > > Any help or advise will be grately appreciated > > Thank You. > > Sylvia > > > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Deirdre, you can buy a transcript (on CD) of the parish registers of Aylesbury St. Mary from Bucks FHS at www.bucksfhs.org.uk. You can buy certificates - birth, marriage, death - at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ References needed for ordering certificates can be found at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl The 1841 census, showing James Sherrif & family at the prison, is online, free, at - http://lanchbury.id.au/genealogy/aylesbury1841.html Paul > > From: "Deirdre Mooney" <[email protected]> > Date: 2008/01/02 Wed AM 03:05:25 GMT > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BKM] SHERRIFF > > Hello Listers, > > I wonder if someone can help me with information on my family SHERRIFF of > Aylesbury Buckinghamshire please. > > I have been told they are a large family and that several generations of > them were Wardens of the Goal. > I note that the Sherriff family were Christenened at St Mary's Aylesbury, > and possibly marriages as well, I would like to know how to purchase copies > of documents about this family and if Paul or anyone else with spare time :) > would be able to fill in some details for me please I would be so grateful > for the kindness. > > It would be just great to meet with a relative or someone who is researching > this name as I can fill a book from this end with the Australian info that I > have. > > Sincere thanks for reading my email, Happy New Year to All > > Deirdre > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Hi to all listers I am wondering if anyone out there is a researcher of FULLER of Ickford/Oakley or perhaps someone who has access to the PR's of Ickford. I am seeking the children of George FULLER (son of William) and Susanna WOODBRIDGE who were married 18 Jul 1781 at Ickford. >From the IGI, I have gleaned 3 daughters born to the couple at Ickford: Elizabeth 1783 Ann 1785 Mary 1786 However, I desperately need at least one male offspring! I suspect a William, a George or a Thomas - or possibly all three! Your help much appreciated Regards Pat Ricketts Western Australia

Hi Paul (and Paul), Paul Irving wrote: > Solomon ... > Married Sophia PARSLOW 11 Feb 1836 at Princes Risborough, > according to > the IGI (submitted - treat with caution). I consulted my extractions from and copies of the Princes Risborough records, and I can confirm that Solomon LACEY bach & Sophia PARSLOW spr married 11 Feb 1836, both otp (Loosley Row), Banns, either Solomon or both C of P (consent of parents). And then, on the same page as one of my SYREDs, there's a Solomon LACEY baptised May 19 1818 (born Jun 11 1810), son of John & Jane, Town, timber dealer. I also see a Solomon PARSLOW, but no Sophia. The Bucks Geneaological Society has done a transcript of the Princes Risborough records (up until around the beginning of civil registration) and as Paul (Irving) has noted, there are hordes of LACEYs there. There are also quite a few PARSLOWs, so it would definitely be worth asking for a search, unless you can get down to Aylesbury to look for yourself. Paul Brazell Berlin, Germany

June, what I've given is everything in the Aylesbury St. Mary register for Thomas & Mary & their children, except this (don't know how I missed it) - 19 Aug 1839 William Elliott chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. The 1851 entries are from the Bucks FHS transcription: I don't have access to the original images for 1851 at the moment. It's possible J. H. was a mistranscription. There's also a single christening in 1838 - George, 12 Dec 1838, son of Charles & Ann HYDE of Walton, Labourer (Walton is part of Aylesbury - then outlying, now central). BTW, it's MOORES, not MOORE, though the names might still have been interchangeable. I'd say it's pretty likely that her last name was MOORES (unless it means that she re-married a MOORES, but if so it wasn't at St. Marys) & if you get the birth certificate of one of her children born after 1837, you can check. It'll give her maiden name. Available online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ with the reference, which you can get from http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl e.g. Mary Maria HYDE - birth registered Jun quarter 1838, Aylesbury district, Volume 6 Page 296 You can see that she & William Elliott weren't twins, but that she was christened late, & there was another William Elliotts birth registered, in 1840. Presumably the first one died, although there's no death registered (registration wasn't complete to start with). Paul June Dugaro wrote: > Paul, this is amazing. Thank you. > > So this means that Thomas and Mary Hyde are my gr, gr, gr grandparents! > > May I ask if you found a christening date for William Hyde born around 1840? He appears in the 1841 census as 8 months and 10 in 1851. > > And may I ask is there any record of the marriage for a Mary ?? and Thomas Hyde in Aylesbury? As it says in the 1851 census William Elliott Hyde is a grandson is it possible that Mary's last name was Moore?? > > Who do you think that J. H. Hyde (female) was?? > > Thank you so much and a very Happy New Year to you, June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Irving > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [BKM] Hyde Family > > > St. Marys, Aylesbury > > 29 Feb 1832 Mary Ann chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE, Grocer. Private baptism. > 16 Aug 1833 Thomas chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE. > 3 Jul 1834 (my, they were busy!) Henry son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of > Aylesbury, Grocer. Private baptism, received into church. > 26 May 1836 Sarah Anne, dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. > Private baptism, received into church. > 19 Aug 1839 Mary Maria chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. > 20 Aug 1842 Jospeh John chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, > Grocer, private baptism. > > Burial 9 Jun 1842 - Thomas Hyde, aged 46, of Aylesbury. > > 1841 census - Market Square, Aylesbury > Thomas HYDE 45 Grocer born out of county > All below born in county - > Mary 30 > Thos 8 > Harry 6 > Sarah 5 > Mary Maria 3 > William 8m > John MOORES 26 Sh.? > Plus two apprentices, one female servant - all born out of county > > 1851 census - > Silver Street, Aylesbury - William Elliott HYDE, 10, b Aylesbury, > grandson, scholar, in household of John MOORES, 69, b Hitcham BKM - Malt > Dealer > > Parsons Fee, Aylesbury - > Frances R. TURNER Head unm 62 b Sudbury DBY Schoolmistress > ... > Sarah HYDE, 15, b Aylesbury. Teacher (Asst) > > Church Lane, High Wycombe > Anne CLARKE head unm 36 b Bledlow Schoolmistress > ... > J. H. HYDE (female) Pupil age 14 b Aylesbury Scholar > > Paul > >

No, the original says "Serv". Compare with the word above, which is definitely Son, & you can see the difference. He should be listed above Lewis, if they were both sons. Also compare with other entries, e.g. Alice GILKS, 15 House Servant, lower down the page, or Martha PARSONS, 17, House Servant, half-way down the next page. "Serv" is written exactly the same for the girls as in the entry for Zaccheus. Paul Mike Chaney wrote: > Paul....: > > >> I just realised that you've made a mistake with Zaccheus or Laccheus. >> He's not a son, he's listed as a "servant". >> > > That's a mis-transcription. The original image clearly shows "son". > > Mike > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

St. Marys, Aylesbury 29 Feb 1832 Mary Ann chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE, Grocer. Private baptism. 16 Aug 1833 Thomas chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE. 3 Jul 1834 (my, they were busy!) Henry son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. Private baptism, received into church. 26 May 1836 Sarah Anne, dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. Private baptism, received into church. 19 Aug 1839 Mary Maria chr dau of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer. 20 Aug 1842 Jospeh John chr son of Thomas & Mary HYDE of Aylesbury, Grocer, private baptism. Burial 9 Jun 1842 - Thomas Hyde, aged 46, of Aylesbury. 1841 census - Market Square, Aylesbury Thomas HYDE 45 Grocer born out of county All below born in county - Mary 30 Thos 8 Harry 6 Sarah 5 Mary Maria 3 William 8m John MOORES 26 Sh.? Plus two apprentices, one female servant - all born out of county 1851 census - Silver Street, Aylesbury - William Elliott HYDE, 10, b Aylesbury, grandson, scholar, in household of John MOORES, 69, b Hitcham BKM - Malt Dealer Parsons Fee, Aylesbury - Frances R. TURNER Head unm 62 b Sudbury DBY Schoolmistress ... Sarah HYDE, 15, b Aylesbury. Teacher (Asst) Church Lane, High Wycombe Anne CLARKE head unm 36 b Bledlow Schoolmistress ... J. H. HYDE (female) Pupil age 14 b Aylesbury Scholar Paul June Dugaro wrote: > Hello > > I was wondering if anyone could help me? I am looking for any information on my gg grandmother Sarah Ann Hyde and her parents. I believe Sarah was born in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire around 1831 and died July 18, 1878. She had a sister Mary Maria born in 1838 Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire. I am not sure but I think her parents might have been Thomas Hyde and Mary ?? Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you kindly, June > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Paul....: >I just realised that you've made a mistake with Zaccheus or Laccheus. > He's not a son, he's listed as a "servant". That's a mis-transcription. The original image clearly shows "son". Mike

Ooops! Having looked at the family in 1881, & in 1871, I realise it's Zaccheus you're interested, not Benjamin & his family. His father Solomon is in the 1861 census as British School Master (incapacitated), with a son Ebenezer, among other children. Could be your Ebenezer was named after his uncle. Married Sophia PARSLOW 11 Feb 1836 at Princes Risborough, according to the IGI (submitted - treat with caution). No sign of him in 1871, but his son Solomon, brother of Zaccheus, is living near Zaccheus in St. Pancras. His widow Sophia is living in Upper Hamlet, Princes Risborough, with a "son in law" (could mean stepson or adopted son back then) Henry John PARSLOW, aged 2, born Parkfield Princes Risb. 1841 - Solomon & Sophia at Parkfiel. Him 30, "Scoolmaster" (sic), her 24, with Benjamin aged 2. At the same address, Moses LACEY, 20, Sawyer. All born Bucks. Paul Paul Ellis wrote: > Paul Irving wrote: > >> 1861 - The Bucks GS & British Origins have both transcribed his name as >> Zaccheus, which looks right to me. If you compare the first letter with >> the L in Lewis, immediately above, they're rather different. >> >> In 1851, the only Benjamin LACEY the right age is shown as born Askett >> (very near Princes Risborough), married to Ann, age 31, born Princes >> Risborough. Draper & Grocer again, age 30. No children. Can't see him in >> the 1841 census. >> >> He's listed in Dutton, Allen & Co's 1863 directory Benjamin LACEY, >> Draper & Grocer, Duke St. >> >> Note that there are hordes of Laceys in the area, many (surprise, >> surprise!) in Lacey Green. Princes Risborough is one of the few places >> to have both the 1821 & 1831 censuses survive, & a transcripion has been >> published (along with much else) in "The People of Princes Risborough", >> vols 1 & 2, by The Eureka Partnership. >> >> Details - http://www.genfair.co.uk/product_list.php?sid=40&page=6 >> >> >> Paul >> >> Paul Ellis wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Listers, >>> I am new to this list and have joined to find out what I >>> can about the LACEY family of Princes Risboro'. The family are living at >>> 35 Back Lane on the 1881 Census, but the first instance I have is 24 >>> High Street on the 1861. >>> At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the >>> son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus >>> but the job has got me beat. >>> Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers >>> shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. >>> Any information about the above would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham >>> *************************************** >>> >>> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >>> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >>> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > Thanks Paul, Zaccheus sounds much more likely doesn't it. Thanks for the > other info as well. > Regards Paul > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Fred Wall wrote: > Happy New Year to all! > How about Zacceus Lacey, Draper's Assistant? > There is a Zaccheus Lacey recorded in the BMDs - 1843 June, Wycombe, 6, 412. > > Fred > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Ellis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:20 AM > Subject: [BKM] New to List job description and christian name > > > >> Hi Listers, >> I am new to this list and have joined to find out what I >> can about the LACEY family of Princes Risboro'. The family are living at >> 35 Back Lane on the 1881 Census, but the first instance I have is 24 >> High Street on the 1861. >> At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the >> son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus >> but the job has got me beat. >> Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers >> shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. >> Any information about the above would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: >> 12/31/2007 3:32 PM >> >> >> > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Thanks for that, Fred. Zaccheus sounds good to me. Regards Paul

Paul Irving wrote: > 1861 - The Bucks GS & British Origins have both transcribed his name as > Zaccheus, which looks right to me. If you compare the first letter with > the L in Lewis, immediately above, they're rather different. > > In 1851, the only Benjamin LACEY the right age is shown as born Askett > (very near Princes Risborough), married to Ann, age 31, born Princes > Risborough. Draper & Grocer again, age 30. No children. Can't see him in > the 1841 census. > > He's listed in Dutton, Allen & Co's 1863 directory Benjamin LACEY, > Draper & Grocer, Duke St. > > Note that there are hordes of Laceys in the area, many (surprise, > surprise!) in Lacey Green. Princes Risborough is one of the few places > to have both the 1821 & 1831 censuses survive, & a transcripion has been > published (along with much else) in "The People of Princes Risborough", > vols 1 & 2, by The Eureka Partnership. > > Details - http://www.genfair.co.uk/product_list.php?sid=40&page=6 > > > Paul > > Paul Ellis wrote: > >> Hi Listers, >> I am new to this list and have joined to find out what I >> can about the LACEY family of Princes Risboro'. The family are living at >> 35 Back Lane on the 1881 Census, but the first instance I have is 24 >> High Street on the 1861. >> At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the >> son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus >> but the job has got me beat. >> Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers >> shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. >> Any information about the above would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham >> *************************************** >> >> BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ >> BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ >> Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Thanks Paul, Zaccheus sounds much more likely doesn't it. Thanks for the other info as well. Regards Paul

Mike Chaney wrote: > Paul.... > > >> At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the >> son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus >> but the job has got me beat. >> > > Ancestry transcribe the 17 year old as a Laccheus (and I won't disagree.) > His occupation is Draper's Assistant, the draper (and grocer) in question > being his father, Benjamin. > > >> Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers >> shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. >> > > Ebenezer is a Printers Linotype Operator. > > Mike Chaney > > > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Thanks for that Mike, It helps a lot. I think when Ebenezer and his family moved to South Africa they were involved in the printing industry over there. Regards Paul

I just realised that you've made a mistake with Zaccheus or Laccheus. He's not a son, he's listed as a "servant". Probably a relative, like the niece, Elizabeth. 1851 - Bucks FHS also have Zaccheus, age 7, b Parkfield, son of Solomon LACEY of Parkfield (still Princes Risborough), schoolmaster age 40 b Saunderton, & Sophia, 34, b Loosley Row. They have an older son Benjamin, age 12, born Parkfield. Ah - more relatives - Elizabeth (the 16 year old niece in the 1861 census) is at Askett, Monks Risborough, in 1851, with her parents Jesse (36, sawyer b Monks Risboro) & Amelia (32, b Monks Risb.). Benjamins brother, no doubt. Jesse & Amelia were in Great Kimble in 1841. There's a submitted IGI record showing Jesse christened 02 July 1814 at Monks Risborough, son of Thomas LACEY & Ann WEST. Worth following up. Bucks FHS do searches of their databases, for a fee - http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ Most likely marriage for Benjamin is Mar 1842, Wycombe district (included Princes Risborough), vol 6 page 529, probably to Ann GOMME. Looks as if his son Lewis was registered Jun 1854 Wycombe vol 3a page 401. Birth certificate would confirm his mothers maiden name. There are a few Ann LACEY deaths in that district, from Mar 1854 quarter to Dec 1860. One could be Benjamins wife. Paul Paul Ellis wrote: > Hi Listers, > I am new to this list and have joined to find out what I > can about the LACEY family of Princes Risboro'. The family are living at > 35 Back Lane on the 1881 Census, but the first instance I have is 24 > High Street on the 1861. > At the moment I am finding it difficult to read the first name of the > son aged 17 on the 1861 along with his job. His name looks like Laeshaus > but the job has got me beat. > Also on the 1901 census Ebenezer Moses LACEY is living above a grocers > shop in Wycombe but I haven't had much luck deciphering his job either. > Any information about the above would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards Paul in Bulwell Nottingham > *************************************** > > BGS Website: http://www.bucksgs.org.uk/ > BFHS Website: http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/ > Bucks Genuki Website: http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >