This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BUCK, ARNOLD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1234 Message Board Post: The July 1968 (vol.44, No.3) issue of "The American Genealogist" contained, beginning on p.168, an article regarding Emanuel Buck's wife, Mary Arnold, as well as information on his other wives and his children. Unfortunately, there is an error/omission on p.171-2 of that article. It lists a son, Thomas, but the information given for him reads, "b. 1 Aug 1682; said to have m. Samuel 3 Arnold (Joseph 2, John 1); if so she d. East Haddam, 20 May 1739." There is no daughter, Abigail, listed, but the above quote happens to be the data for Abigail Buck. My question...does anyone have a copy of the addition or correction to this article or was there ever one published? If none was published, what other documentation (other than the IGI or Ancestral File) is there to support the information for Emanuel Buck's son, Thomas, and daughter, Abigail?

In Wethersfield Vital Records it shows: BUCK, Emanuell & 2nd wife Mary, m. 17 APR 1658 (Mary, b. 1 Jan 1659, d. 17 Jan 1712) children: David, b. 3 Apr 1667, d. 20 Sep 1738 Sarah, b. 1 Apr 1669 Hannah, b. 12 Apr 1671 Elizabeth, b. 4 Jun 1676 Thomas, b. 10 Jun 1678 Abigail, b. 1 Aug 1682 Note: Emanuel also married a Mary Orcutt and I don't know which Mary these records are referring to. I would love to have the information from the article you refer to if it is possible. Thanks. Janet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BUCK-L] TAG Article on Emanuel Buck This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BUCK, ARNOLD Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1234 Message Board Post: The July 1968 (vol.44, No.3) issue of "The American Genealogist" contained, beginning on p.168, an article regarding Emanuel Buck's wife, Mary Arnold, as well as information on his other wives and his children. Unfortunately, there is an error/omission on p.171-2 of that article. It lists a son, Thomas, but the information given for him reads, "b. 1 Aug 1682; said to have m. Samuel 3 Arnold (Joseph 2, John 1); if so she d. East Haddam, 20 May 1739." There is no daughter, Abigail, listed, but the above quote happens to be the data for Abigail Buck. My question...does anyone have a copy of the addition or correction to this article or was there ever one published? If none was published, what other documentation (other than the IGI or Ancestral File) is there to support the information for Emanuel Buck's son, Thomas, and daughter, Abigail? ==== BUCK Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just send the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject line and in the body of the message to [email protected] (or to [email protected] if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") To review Archived messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr at: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Janet, The article, "Emanuel Buck's Wife Mary Arnold", by Haskell Venard, was published in The American Genealogist, v.44, no.3 (July 1968), p.168-172. Most larger libraries should have this. I had to go to Tacoma, WA, to copy the article. Liz

Thank you so much. I'm going to the library tomorrow! Janet -----Original Message----- From: Dave & Liz DuBois [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BUCK-L] TAG Article on Emanuel Buck Janet, The article, "Emanuel Buck's Wife Mary Arnold", by Haskell Venard, was published in The American Genealogist, v.44, no.3 (July 1968), p.168-172. Most larger libraries should have this. I had to go to Tacoma, WA, to copy the article. Liz ==== BUCK Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just send the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject line and in the body of the message to [email protected] (or to [email protected] if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") To review Archived messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr at: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Do Not know where Samuel Buck of Crown Point, NY found his information for his book on the children Thomas and Abigail Buck children of Emanuel Buck and Mary Kirby. "Orign, History & Gen. Buck Family", 1917 printed by Samuel Buck of Crown Point, NY: US/CAN 929.273 B855b. Or also film #1033585 LDS Gen. Library, UT on Page 44, Emanuel Buck born in 1623, married in 1645 for his first wife Sarah of Weathersfield and had children: a. Ezekiel, born 15 Jan 1650; b. John born 30 Nov 1652; c. Jonathan born 8 April 1655, when she died and he then married on 15 April 1658, Mary Kirby of Middletown, born 1627, aged 31. daughther of John Kirby of Hartford, CT., who died in 1671. He bought a homestead of Edward Scot of Farmington on 12 Mar 1659. She died on 17 Jan 1712, aged 85. Their children were: d. Mary born on 1 April 1659; e. David born on 3 April 1667, died 20 Sept 1738; f. Sarah born on 1 Jan 1668, married Benjamin Church; g. Hannah born on 18 April 1671, married John Fowler; i. Elizabeth born on 4 June 1676, married Caleb Dudley; j. Thomas born on 10 Jan 1678; k. Abigail born on 1 Aug 1682, married Samuel Arnold. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [BUCK-L] TAG Article on Emanuel Buck > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: BUCK, ARNOLD > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1234 > > Message Board Post: > > The July 1968 (vol.44, No.3) issue of "The American Genealogist" contained, beginning on p.168, an article regarding Emanuel Buck's wife, Mary Arnold, as well as information on his other wives and his children. Unfortunately, there is an error/omission on p.171-2 of that article. It lists a son, Thomas, but the information given for him reads, "b. 1 Aug 1682; said to have m. Samuel 3 Arnold (Joseph 2, John 1); if so she d. East Haddam, 20 May 1739." There is no daughter, Abigail, listed, but the above quote happens to be the data for Abigail Buck. My question...does anyone have a copy of the addition or correction to this article or was there ever one published? If none was published, what other documentation (other than the IGI or Ancestral File) is there to support the information for Emanuel Buck's son, Thomas, and daughter, Abigail? > > > ==== BUCK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just send > the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject > line and in the body of the message to [email protected] > (or to [email protected] if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L > If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr > at: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Many thanks...that is a great help! Liz Bernie and Carol Schneider wrote: >Do Not know where Samuel Buck of Crown Point, NY found his information for >his book on the children Thomas and Abigail Buck children of Emanuel Buck >and Mary Kirby. > >"Orign, History & Gen. Buck Family", 1917 printed by Samuel Buck of Crown >Point, NY: US/CAN 929.273 B855b. Or also film #1033585 LDS Gen. Library, >UT on Page 44, Emanuel Buck born in 1623, married in 1645 for his first >wife Sarah of Weathersfield and had children: > a. Ezekiel, born 15 Jan 1650; > b. John born 30 Nov 1652; > c. Jonathan born 8 April 1655, when she died and he then married on 15 >April 1658, Mary Kirby of Middletown, born 1627, aged 31. daughther of John >Kirby of Hartford, CT., who died in 1671. He bought a homestead of Edward >Scot of Farmington on 12 Mar 1659. She died on 17 Jan 1712, aged 85. Their >children were: > d. Mary born on 1 April 1659; > e. David born on 3 April 1667, died 20 Sept 1738; > f. Sarah born on 1 Jan 1668, married Benjamin Church; > g. Hannah born on 18 April 1671, married John Fowler; > i. Elizabeth born on 4 June 1676, married Caleb Dudley; > j. Thomas born on 10 Jan 1678; > k. Abigail born on 1 Aug 1682, married Samuel Arnold. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:28 PM >Subject: [BUCK-L] TAG Article on Emanuel Buck > > > > >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Surnames: BUCK, ARNOLD >>Classification: Query >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1234 >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>The July 1968 (vol.44, No.3) issue of "The American Genealogist" >> >> >contained, beginning on p.168, an article regarding Emanuel Buck's wife, >Mary Arnold, as well as information on his other wives and his children. >Unfortunately, there is an error/omission on p.171-2 of that article. It >lists a son, Thomas, but the information given for him reads, "b. 1 Aug >1682; said to have m. Samuel 3 Arnold (Joseph 2, John 1); if so she d. East >Haddam, 20 May 1739." There is no daughter, Abigail, listed, but the above >quote happens to be the data for Abigail Buck. My question...does anyone >have a copy of the addition or correction to this article or was there ever >one published? If none was published, what other documentation (other than >the IGI or Ancestral File) is there to support the information for Emanuel >Buck's son, Thomas, and daughter, Abigail? > > >>==== BUCK Mailing List ==== >>To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just send >>the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject >>line and in the body of the message to [email protected] >>(or to [email protected] if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") >>To review Archived messages: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L >>If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr >>at: [email protected] >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== BUCK Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just send >the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject >line and in the body of the message to [email protected] >(or to [email protected] if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") >To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L >If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr >at: [email protected] > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Carol, I didn't have the info about Emanuel buying a property in Farmington. Thanks for posting this info. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Bernie and Carol Schneider [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BUCK-L] TAG Article on Emanuel Buck Do Not know where Samuel Buck of Crown Point, NY found his information for his book on the children Thomas and Abigail Buck children of Emanuel Buck and Mary Kirby. "Orign, History & Gen. Buck Family", 1917 printed by Samuel Buck of Crown Point, NY: US/CAN 929.273 B855b. Or also film #1033585 LDS Gen. Library, UT on Page 44, Emanuel Buck born in 1623, married in 1645 for his first wife Sarah of Weathersfield and had children: a. Ezekiel, born 15 Jan 1650; b. John born 30 Nov 1652; c. Jonathan born 8 April 1655, when she died and he then married on 15 April 1658, Mary Kirby of Middletown, born 1627, aged 31. daughther of John Kirby of Hartford, CT., who died in 1671. He bought a homestead of Edward Scot of Farmington on 12 Mar 1659. She died on 17 Jan 1712, aged 85. Their children were: d. Mary born on 1 April 1659; e. David born on 3 April 1667, died 20 Sept 1738; f. Sarah born on 1 Jan 1668, married Benjamin Church; g. Hannah born on 18 April 1671, married John Fowler; i. Elizabeth born on 4 June 1676, married Caleb Dudley; j. Thomas born on 10 Jan 1678; k. Abigail born on 1 Aug 1682, married Samuel Arnold. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [BUCK-L] TAG Article on Emanuel Buck > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: BUCK, ARNOLD > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1234 > > Message Board Post: > > The July 1968 (vol.44, No.3) issue of "The American Genealogist" contained, beginning on p.168, an article regarding Emanuel Buck's wife, Mary Arnold, as well as information on his other wives and his children. Unfortunately, there is an error/omission on p.171-2 of that article. It lists a son, Thomas, but the information given for him reads, "b. 1 Aug 1682; said to have m. Samuel 3 Arnold (Joseph 2, John 1); if so she d. East Haddam, 20 May 1739." There is no daughter, Abigail, listed, but the above quote happens to be the data for Abigail Buck. My question...does anyone have a copy of the addition or correction to this article or was there ever one published? If none was published, what other documentation (other than the IGI or Ancestral File) is there to support the information for Emanuel Buck's son, Thomas, and daughter, Abigail? > > > ==== BUCK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just send > the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject > line and in the body of the message to [email protected] > (or to [email protected] if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L > If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr > at: [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BUCK Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just send the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both the subject line and in the body of the message to [email protected] (or to [email protected] if you're receiving the "Digest Mode") To review Archived messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L If you have problems or questions, contact the List Manager: John Buck, Jr at: [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

It has been a long time since I have worked on this family. Carol pointed out in her quote from his book attached that Samuel BUCK of Crown Point only identified one wife Mary (Mary Kirby) whereas Emanuel/Enoch likely had wives Sarah Ryley, Mary Arnold (m. 17 Apr 1658) and Mary Kirby (m. bef 1667). As many of us are aware, while the Samuel Buck book has useful information, it has been found to contain quite a few errors. This is what I have in my note for Mary Arnold: Torrey lists last name of wife Mary as [Kirby] but the supplement to Torrey lists it as Arnold and also indicates Mary died before 1664; this is impossible if she is the mother of all the children listed. Harvey has Mary dying 12 Jan 1712. From further research it appears that Emanuel/Enoch married two Marys, first Mary Arnold in 1658 who died before 1664, and secondly Mary Kirby. From the records of Wethersfield, CT by S. G. Drake in 1861 is the entry Buck, Emmanuel married Mary Kirby, age 31, of Middletown, CT, April 15, 1658. However, the Wethersfield records apparently left the surname blank. Probate records of 1677 list Mary Kirby as wife of Emanuel Buck, age 32 years. That would make Mary Kirby born about 1645. This would likely make her the first child of John and Elizabeth who were about age 21 at that time. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie and Carol Schneider" <[email protected]> > Do Not know where Samuel Buck of Crown Point, NY found his information for his book on the children Thomas and Abigail Buck children of Emanuel Buck and Mary Kirby. > > "Orign, History & Gen. Buck Family", 1917 printed by Samuel Buck of CrownPoint, NY: US/CAN 929.273 B855b. Or also film #1033585 LDS Gen. Library, UT on Page 44, Emanuel Buck born in 1623, married in 1645 for his first wife Sarah of Weathersfield and had children: > a. Ezekiel, born 15 Jan 1650; > b. John born 30 Nov 1652; > c. Jonathan born 8 April 1655, when she died and he then married on 15 April 1658, Mary Kirby of Middletown, born 1627, aged 31. daughther of John Kirby of Hartford, CT., who died in 1671. He bought a homestead of Edward Scot of Farmington on 12 Mar 1659. She died on 17 Jan 1712, aged 85. Their+ children were: > d. Mary born on 1 April 1659; > e. David born on 3 April 1667, died 20 Sept 1738; > f. Sarah born on 1 Jan 1668, married Benjamin Church; > g. Hannah born on 18 April 1671, married John Fowler; > i. Elizabeth born on 4 June 1676, married Caleb Dudley; > j. Thomas born on 10 Jan 1678; > k. Abigail born on 1 Aug 1682, married Samuel Arnold.