Hi.... The following message came over the BlackSheep List at rootsweb today. It gives some marvelous details about a BUCK who lived, and worked, in Pennsylvania in the late 1800's. This fellow does not, as far as I know, relate to my own Pennsylvania BUCK family - they had long ago moved on to Tennessee and then Illinois - but it would be fun to claim this fellow in any family I think. He is really colorful and the archetypical "Black Sheep" we often suspect is lurking somewhere in our past. A quick check of the US Census Records only yielded one hit for "Boston Buck" 1860 Census: Series: M653 Roll: 1095 Page: 40 Beaver Township, Clarion County, Pennsylvania: All born in Pennsylvania: Boston Buck - 45 Eliza Buck - 42 Levi Buck - 12 David Buck - 10 Phebe Buck - 9 Nancy Buck - 7 Mary Ann Buck - 5 Isabella Buck - 3 (G**ry?) Buck - 1 (male) Let us know if you can claim him! <g> John Buck, Jr. BUCK-L Administrator **************************************************************************** ****************************************** From: blacksheep-l@rootsweb.com Date: 17 April 2006 My blacksheep (well, the most known) is Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck: Renowned Horsethief/Counterfeiter In short: Clarion County, Pennsylvania was famous for its horse thieves in the 1800s. The county had this reputation because it is the only locale in the eastern U.S. where a man was hung as a horse thief. Horse thieving relates to the Buck family because one of the most famous of the thieves was Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck. Although he was a known horse thief, he was never convicted of this crime. Boss was not hung as a horse thief, but he did spend about five years in jail for counterfeiting. He was the main catalyst for the formation of the Clarion (and others) County Anti-Horsethief Association. I have tons of genealogical info on the Buck family not only from searching genealogy but historical books written about him. From articles printed in the Clarion Democrat and the Clarion Republican Gazette, dated Oct. 15, 1885, Oct. 22, 1885 and Nov. 12, 1885: "Boss Buck: Famous Horse Thief (b. 1817 d. 1896) During the past month few names have been brought more prominently or frequently before the reading public in this section of the state than that heads this sketch, not during the past quarter of a century could any man in this section of the country, for shrewdness, cuteness and alleged cussedness lay claim to a more brilliant record than this same distinguished individual. Boston, or as he was more familiarly known, "Boss" Buck, whose real name was Sebastian, was born in Centre County, Pennsylvania in 1817 and is at present (1885) 68 years of age. In early life he became a resident of Beaver Township and afterwards moved to Washington Township, near Tylersburg, where he became the possessor of a farm in a locality remote from the public highways and well suited for carrying on any doubtful schemes in which he might desire to enjoy with little fear of molestation. Although his ostensible business was that of trading and dealing in horses, it was not long until his neighbors had come to suspect him of more doubtful transactions than any legitimate business required. From the most reliable of the numerous publications caused by the recent arrest and conviction of himself and several of his gang we obtain the following compilation. "In appearance he is 6'2", weighs 230 pounds, dresses in a shabby brown well-worn suit of rough clothes with flannel shirt and old fur cap, his large head and rather attractive face being covered with a shabby growth of fine hair turned white as snow by his almost three score years and ten. That part of his face which is not hidden like his clothing, is brown and seamed with exposure to the weather, and a pair of bright, piercing, unfathomable and distrustful large gray eyes shone out from underneath thick growing eyebrows of a darker color than his hair or beard, giving a very uncanny look to a tough ensemble that otherwise would be prepossessing and benevolent. His frame is powerful. In his early days he was known as an athlete of unquestioned power and daring. Though uneducated, he is a man of unusual intelligence and resources, and his ingenuity as a general and planner of criminal schemes has baffled the detectives, outwitting their carefully laid traps designed for his capture, and kept him of out the clutches of the law for 25 years, six years of which he spent in Canada as a fugitive from justice. He does not talk much, but his manner is interesting, his influence magnetic and his presence commanding. In fact, "Boston Buck" was a born leader of men. With an education and early training, he might have stood as high amongst the prominent men of the county as he ranks among the most noted criminals. Buck's business was horse dealing and he was supplied with horses by thieves in almost every state in the union. It was an art of his to change a stolen animal so that even the owner could not recognize it. Buck's place was the rendezvous of the sleek criminal of every class and well suited it was for that purpose - five miles from Tylersburg in Clarion County, on the edge of the wildest section in forest County, adopted in every way for the abode of a counterfeiter. It was way back in the fifties that "Boss Buck" and his clan of outlaws became known to the public. It was discovered by Clarion County people that they were not only in the part of an "underground railroad" for the transportation of stolen horses, extending from Kentucky to Maine, but that the chief of the clan made his headquarters in the midst. While "Boss Buck" spent much time riding the long trail that extended from the great forests of Maine and into Canada to the land of Blue Grass and fine horses in the South, Eagle Furnace;, Clarion County, near the Clarion River, was his headquarters. It is said that a continuous string of stolen horses was kept moving both north and south. Thus it seems that Boss Buck was the original "return trip operator" - horses were picked up at both ends and all along the line moved north and south and sold when far enough from their owners to be undetected. The selected horses were taken from the field or barn of the owner at night, and by the time the rays of the morning sun fell upon the latest acquisition of the clan, that colt's own mother would not have known it. The paint brush was applied so artistically that it was impossible for the owner to identify the stolen animal. Not only was the paint brush used, but other means of masquerading the animals were employed. In the event of young horses that had never been worked, sandpaper was applied to the sides and shoulders to indicate they were rubbed by harnesses and thus made out to be work horses. Another trick was to reverse the sides of the horse so they would appear to be going in the other direction. The authorities found it difficult to connect "Boss Buck" with any of the raids. This was because he seldom, if ever, participated in the operations himself. He saw to it that no horses were stolen in the immediate vicinity of his headquarters, Eagle Furnace. Boss Buck lived up to certain standards that kept him in the good graces of those who looked upon his livelihood with scorn. He would not permit the theft of a horse from a person who could not afford to lose the animal. Like Jesse James, there are innumerable stories in circulation as to his acts of kindness, his generosity as well as his desperation. It is said that the chief did not sanction cruelty or murder on the part of his clansmen. Horse stealing and counterfeiting seemed to be his vocation. At Eagle Furnace, Bear Creek and just west of Parker's Landing were three distinct counterfeiting plants under the direction of Boss Buck. During the sixties and seventies, every piece of coin passing between the natives of these sections was scrutinized carefully as a safeguard against receiving some of the Boss Buck products which were so plentiful there. Boss Buck made his counterfeit money from lead and molten glass which was poured in plaster of paris molds. They were so perfect they defied detection. In 1872 Boss Buck was arrested by the United States secret service agents for manufacturing and circulating counterfeit coins near Parkers Landing. Finally, tangible evidence was secured and a warrant was issued for the chief of the outlaws. He, of course, was given warning and seemed to disappear from the face of the globe. His organization was so complete from Maine to Kentucky that he had no fear of apprehension, so long as he kept away from his usual haunts. His visit to Pittsburgh, where he thought himself secure from the long arm of the law, proved to be his undoing. He secured a room in a tenement district near Second Avenue and there kept under cover for some time. A young man from the pine forests of Clarion County helped run a log raft to Pittsburgh. He located an old acquaintance who lived in the Second Avenue district, and when he came out on the back porch for a breath of fresh air, he looked across the way to another back porch and saw a man washing his face. There was just one man in the world, thought the young man, who washed his face like Boss Buck. That surely was the much wanted outlaw, and a handsome reward was offered for his apprehension. "Thus it was that Boss Buck finally fell into the toils as a result of his having a peculiar way of washing his face. He served time in the Western Penitentiary and when released, was broken of health and spirit. He visited his old haunts, but was never active in the horse and counterfeit traffic. He drifted away to parts unknown." (NOTE) In fact he did not drift away to parts unknown; back then they had no more info. His life after prison and death is chronicled in a few books on his life by retired teacher Edward B. Reighard, his most recent work is a history of the notorious Sebastian Boston "Boss" Buck and the Clarion County Horsethieves.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1548 Message Board Post: I am looking for ancestors of Walter Buck, born 1850 in Bobbingworth, Ongar, Essex, England. His parents were James and Sarah Buck nee Pettit?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VYG.2ACIB/1216.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Judy Cooper, I would like to contact you about our Holders, but the email address is not working.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Buck Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VYG.2ACIB/1547.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Carol, that is excellent. I have many letters from Fall River some are from 116 Jefferson Street. I do not know anything of Joseph and will re-read all the letters again to see if there is any mention. William Buck of Burnley was my great grandad.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Buck Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VYG.2ACIB/1547.1 Message Board Post: found this First Name: John T. Last Name: Buck Ethnicity: England Last Place of Residence: Fall River, U.S.A. Date of Arrival: Sep 05, 1908 Age at Arrival: 61y Gender: M Marital Status: W Ship of Travel: Umbria Port of Departure: Liverpool Manifest Line Number: 0007 He was a widow in 1908 Who was Joseph Buck? in the 1920 Census with John 73 widow and Walter age 34 Joseph Buck age 31 son Question Joseph was not in 1900 Census Fall River with John T. Buck and wife Marsha and son Walter. Joseph Buck was not in 1910 Census with John and Walter Buck in Fall River. Marsh had 2 children and one living in 1900 Census. **** found John T. Buck age 61 weaver 5 feet 4 inches tall Dark complexion black eyes and brown hair with Walter Buck age 23 widow, Carder 5 feet 4 inches tall peach complexion brown hair blue eyes son from 118 Jefferson St.,Fall River, MA : at Liverpool on 18 Aug 1908. They were at Uncle William Buck at 31 Berkley St. Burnley, England. Leaving Liverpool 5 Sept 1908. Lost the information so did not get the ship manifast when I ran out of time on the internet and was closed off. Carol

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Buck Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VYG.2ACIB/1547 Message Board Post: Hello, I am searching for information on John Thomas (Jack) Buck, his wife Martha and son Walter. They lived at Fall River, Mass. John Thomas and maybe all the family emigrated there from Burnley, Lancashire England. They were employed in textiles. John Thomas died in 1924 and Walter in 1977.

Mary Whitmore BUCK married Richard POILLON, Jr. 6 January 1848 As Richard was of NYC I assume that they were married there. She was his second wife. I would like to have Mary W. BUCK's ancestry. Also the name of Richard POILLON's first wife. Any info appreciated. Best regards, Hugh

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1536.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: My Jonathon was born in the mid 1700's in Vermont.. Records show he was married to Mary Breckinbridge. She does not exist. This was a false entry. Walter was born in the late 1700's in Vermont. His wife must have died in childbirth. They had two children, Walter Jr., and Alvin. Walter moved to Essex County, NY, it had to be about 1802. He shows up in the census. He married Chloe Flora. They had a bunch of kids. The most notable was Truman Buck. The only daughter was their last child Rosanna. She was born in 1826 in Lorain, Ohio. I have more exact records but they are stored away. My biggest mystery is who is Chloe Flora/Flory. Oberlin College is in the town where my Buck's lived and Jonathon died in the 1840's. My e mail is kiliwigl@wbcable.net. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1536.1.2.2 Message Board Post: I have that Jonathan BUCK b. 1751 CT was married to Mary Breckenridge from the 1990 Patriot Index. I don't have parents for Jonathan, and the 2003 Patriot Index does not list Mary Breckenridge at all, but Irena __?__. Did you write for the DAR papers for this latter submission which would have needed better proof than prior to 1990. I don't really believe all the Vermont BUCKs were closely related. although I don't have ancestry for some of them. In the 2003 Patriot Index I see Robert BUCK b. 10-18-1762 CT who married Phebe BURRITT and Samuel BUCK b. 1730 CT and died between 11785-90 VT who married second Hannah Wright. There is also a John BUCK born 1746 in CT who died 3-18-1839 in VT and was married to unknown, Mary,& Priscilla. George BUCK born 11-16-1766 CT died about 1802 VT and was married to Lucy HARD. Lastly in the 2003 DAR Patriot Index I see William BUCK born 8-17-1765 and died 10-8-1805 VT who married Elizabeth MURRAY.

have you tried the morse society? they not only keep genealogy of the morse family but on those that marry into it, worth an email anyway. I married a morse and they wanted to greats of my family to add to their info. [morsesociety.com] patti --- kiliwigl@wbcable.net wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to > this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1536.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > The Buck's seem to be very elusive. I am from > Jonathan Buck, Walter Buck, Rosanna Buck, etc. > Cannot find out who Jonathan was married to. He is > from Vermont also. Walter was married to Chloe > Flora. Cannot find out anything about her. Have > heard she was part French and part indian. Rosanna > was married to Ephraim Thomas Morse. Are all these > Buck;s related that came from the Vermont area. > Walter moved to Essex County, NY after his first > wife died. Any information would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks > > > ==== BUCK Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the BUCK-L or BUCK-D list just > send > the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in both > the subject > line and in the body of the message to > BUCK-L-request@rootsweb.com > (or to BUCK-D-request@rootsweb.com if you're > receiving the "Digest Mode") > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BUCK-L > If you have problems or questions, contact the List > Manager: John Buck, Jr > at: john.buck.jr@usa.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1536.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Do you know when this Jonathan was born, I have a Jonathan W. Buck b. Aug 18, 1847 Fairfax, Franklin Cty, VT d. Sept 19, 1907 Odgensburg, St. Lawrence Cty, NY who married Ada Sophia Rugg. The had a son Walter V.b. Sept 1878 VT, do not have any other information on this Walter. But do have a little on prior generations before Jonathan Buck. Thelma Kifer

Hi! Can anyone tell me about John Buck who is listed in the 1810 census of St. Lawrence Co., Town of Madrid. He has 1 male under 10, one under 15, one 16-25 and 5 males 26-44. One female under 10, 3 16-25 and one female 26-44. I would like to find more information on this family. I think that this is my link to my Buck family and I have been stuck at this brick wall for many years! Thanks so much for any info! Marian Buck Sargent in Oregon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1536.1.2 Message Board Post: The Buck's seem to be very elusive. I am from Jonathan Buck, Walter Buck, Rosanna Buck, etc. Cannot find out who Jonathan was married to. He is from Vermont also. Walter was married to Chloe Flora. Cannot find out anything about her. Have heard she was part French and part indian. Rosanna was married to Ephraim Thomas Morse. Are all these Buck;s related that came from the Vermont area. Walter moved to Essex County, NY after his first wife died. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VYG.2ACIB/1546.1 Message Board Post: For information about how to order Ohio birth and death records, see: http://www.vitalrec.com/oh.html Ben Franklin Editor, Franklin Family Researchers United

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Buck Classification: Birth Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VYG.2ACIB/1546 Message Board Post: I am looking for birth records for myself Patricia Ann Buck born in East Liverpool Hospital in OH to Pearl May Buck of Newell West Virginia. I was born a triplet on October 7, 1945. I need to know what happened to the children. I would also like to obtain my mother's death certiificate she died 1947 at our Newell Home on Grant Street. If anyone knows who my father is please tell me. I know I have a step-brother in Chester somewhere. This appears to be the best kept secret in my family and now they are all dead. My daughter Sharon is having health related issues and I need to find out some information desperately. If you can help please let me know. You can email me directly at sharonzapata@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1545.1 Message Board Post: Orville BUCK b. 1843 in Indiana, the father of Cyrus BUCK, is the son of Waterman BUCK and Joanna and the apparent grandson of Cyrus BUCK and Silence HOWARD of Worthington, Hampshire, Massachusetts. Waterman BUCK and family were found on the 1860 census for Cottage Grove, Washington County, Minnesota.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1544.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Here is one Earl from SS number Hope this helps. Earl E. Buck SSN: 414-22-9707 Last Residence: 38301 Jackson, Madison, Tennessee, United States of America Born: 31 Oct 1919 Died: 29 Mar 1990 State (Year) SSN issued: Tennessee (Before 1951 )

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1544.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for all your efforts, but I had all that, what I really need is what happened to the 2 Earls, death dates, cemetery; for Earl Jr-a spouse & children...I am posting this just to clarify it to all that I need descendancy. Thanks again. Dianna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Buck, Mars, Gray, McVicar Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1545 Message Board Post: A biography/family history of Cyrus Buck is included in "Montana, Its Story & Biography", Vol 2, pgs 608 & 609. Parents: Orville & Lavina (Mars) Buck, born in Indiana & Minnesota, respectively. Cyrus was educated in the schools of Minnesota & at age 18 moved to Glenwood Springs, Colorado, and worked on the railroad. 1 April 1887, he came to Silverbow, MT, to Fort Benton, where he was employed as a cowboy. In 1894, he homesteaded near Lost Lake, Choteau county, MT. On 11 Jan 1899, Fort Benton, MT, Cyrus married Miss Margaret McVicar Gray, born in Glasgow, Scotland. Her parents were William and Isabel (McVicar) Gray, natives of Scotland, who located to Minneapolis, MN, in 1880 & moved to a ranch in Choteau County, MT, in 1881. Buck children: Marion McVicar, Jack, Margaret A., Grace B., Robert R. I am not related.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VYG.2ACIB/1544.1 Message Board Post: I do no have this line of Buck, but looked at the Census for Julius Buck & Caroline. 1880 Census Greenville, Mercer, PA Julious Buck bn 1846, NY father bn NY mother bn CAN he was Pro. Billard Hall & wife Caraline Buck 1870 Census North East, Erie, PA Julius Buck Clerk in Station Hotel. 1860 Census Julius N Buck Age in 1860: 14 Birth Year: abt 1846 Birthplace: New York Home in 1860: Westfield, Chautauqua, New York Gender: Male Post Office: Westfield Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Edwin Buck 51 Marietta Buck 43 Edwin D Buck 23 Mariam Buck 21 Herbert Buck 16 Julius N Buck 14 Fred M Buck 11 Carlton D Buck 8 Lelia Yonkee 53 1850 Census Westfield, Chatauqua, NY Edwin Buck bn 1809 NY merchant $8,000 Maryett age 33 Edwin age 14 Mary Ann age 12 Augusta age 10 Herbert age 6 Julius age 4 Fred age 1. I looked for the family in Westfield, Chatauqua, NY and found this WESTFIELD CEMETERY Westfield, NY Formatted by PHGS Members: GAYLE THOMSON BUCK, Edwin Born 4-06-1809 Died 3-25-1871 BUCK, Edwin D. Born 3-03-1836 Died 6-13-1903 BUCK, Marietta Hough Born 11-14-1816 Died 5-13-1894 - Wife" HOUGH, Clarissa P. Died 5-05-1864 Age 30 - "Daughter" HOUGH, Clarissa Phelps Spouse of Samuel Died 2-13-1862 Age 85 HOUGH, Glorinda Born 5-03-1802 Died 4-15-1897 HOUGH, Orson Born 4-11-1797 Died 3-03-1883 I do not have who Edwin Buck's parents are so Westfield, Chatauqua, NY is a good area to search for land records, church records etc. Need to get more sources for this line of information. It is just a help. Carol