For Bob Bryant: Having been looking through your msgs and the following occured to me: Do you think Tillman Bryant's first name is actually a surname? Also I was looking at GenForum under the name Tillman and I saw the surname Tilghman also used for Tillman. There is an also query in GenForum that states in part "looking for children of John Tillman born 1815 in Chatham County N. C. married Nancy Edwards about 1834. They lived in Tenn." This person is or was trying to connect Levi W. Patterson born 1836 to the Tillman family. This is old data but could be useful. Its msg #1238 under Tilghman. If I find anything else I will pass it on. Ellie Call Richmond Va.