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    1. [BRYANT] Census Plus DNA record
    2. John Bryant
    3. What if I could and others that been tested for DNA could post our Y-search ID's in a box on one of the census search engine's. Would that not solve this dilemma below after we posted. This would tie people into DNA verify paper trials. ============================================================= Paula wrote From: "PJ" <listserves@oldthingsforgotten.com> Subject: [BRYANT] William Bryan of Northern Ireland married and died in RedRiver Co. TX Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:05:20 -0600 I have a William Bryan, many times found as Bryant, that I cannot find anywhere after his marriage license dated 30 May 1869 in Red River Co. TX. He married a woman with the name of Rosanna that was usually called by Annie. She was previously married so her name on the marriage license was Ann McClure. I have never been able to find out her maiden name. Their daughter was named Fanny Frances Bryant. Yes, Fanny and Frances, that is how it is on her death certificate and her marriage license. On the death certificate her parents are listed as William Bryant and Annie Bryant. So no help there. I have found Fanny on the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census, but I have never found William and Annie. William supposedly died shortly after Fanny was born in May 1870 so perhaps Annie remarried and used a different surname, but that I have not found either. On the four census I have for Fanny, she lists her father's place of birth as MO, AL, TN and then Northern Ireland. Her mother is always listed as being born in KY. I am guessing it was not wanted to be known to have a parent that immigrated from Ireland so Fanny did not give the correct birth place of her father until the 1930 Census. So here is my question, if one lived in Texas in 1869 (based on the marriage date), and you had immigrated to the US, at what port would one have entered? Was there any possibility that William could have landed in the gulf region and headed north across Texas? Or is it more probable that he landed on the east coast and headed west across the country like all others that ended up in northeast Texas at that time? I have searched immigration files for years that might be possible for my William and they are just filled with William Bryan, Bryant, O'Bryan, O'Bryant, O'Brien, etc. I did find a Fanny Bryan that immigrated with a baby named William that could fit his possible age, but how many other's could that also fit. Hoping to find that needle in the haystack one day... Paula John Bryant R1b1c* http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/ Irish Type III http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Irish_Type_III.htm #57501 at O’Brien project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/obrien/ Josiah Bryant Cooperative Research Group http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/index.htm

    04/27/2007 01:09:24
    1. [BRYANT] My NPE's
    2. John Bryant
    3. This is what I have been posting to the participants in the NPE discussion on the DNA List. Non-paternity events----how often do they happen? Hi I have matches with my 4th cousin, 2 O'Briens and 20 some other surnames I have been working this issue for several months I can tell you that my matches have ruined one book, four paper trials and a couple of websites. The question should be how many paper trial are genetic correct. FanilytreeDNA used to state a rate of NPE at 5%. Then the legal and sales people thought that was a bad idea and we now have the big lie!!!!!(My speculation.) If paper trials are only 95% correct because of research error each genteration. What the error rate at 6 generations? Then add the NPE at 2%- 5% per genteration. Of course every Genealogist know that he 100% correct, it not good sales to put probability on that. DNA is needed to verify paper trials!! john b.

    04/26/2007 03:55:42
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's--- answer for Keithlastpoint
    2. To all Here is a site that might help explain things but on a bigger scale. It has several links to explain Bill www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html ---- John Bryant <jofbryant@hotmail.com> wrote: > Keith > In many Families you would be getting ask to test you DNA because they would > want it do research five years from now when it going to give us many more > answers of family history.The point is if we each would share this Y bar > code each male has that not good for much else. We would be finding out who > we a related to and do research knowing that we are related, then we could > find out how. What we do now seem like a waste to time to me. I am spending > my time doing research only with those people that I match with. My family > has spent the last 50 years trying to find my 5th great-grandfather. It > looks like he took his mother name. I am working with those families to sort > out. What I an doing on this list is called broadcasting. > > John Bryant > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Keith.W. Bryant" <k8w5bry79@hotmail.com> > Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com > To: bryant@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's--- answer for > Keithlastpoint > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:50:17 +1000 > > Hi! John, please don't take it as a personal thing. If your Bryants are like > mine, then you must know that we are a somewhat reticent lot who are > reluctant to convey thoughts Etc, until they are convinced that their action > is the right thing, so really if you are thinking that we may be > 'connected', please check-out my > Website....bryantsofwellingboroughengland.com.... it goes back to 1733, so > if you are not connected there, then it would be a long-shot if it were > 100's of years before, would it not?. As far as checking out all your > apparantly good work, that is time trouble Etc, I can assure you I in > particular have not opened any sites, as I am yet to be convinced, perhaps > at 83 Y'rs I may be forgiven for Scepticisim. Keith. W. Bryant. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2007 01:39:36
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's--- answer for Keithlastpoint
    2. John Bryant
    3. Keith In many Families you would be getting ask to test you DNA because they would want it do research five years from now when it going to give us many more answers of family history.The point is if we each would share this Y bar code each male has that not good for much else. We would be finding out who we a related to and do research knowing that we are related, then we could find out how. What we do now seem like a waste to time to me. I am spending my time doing research only with those people that I match with. My family has spent the last 50 years trying to find my 5th great-grandfather. It looks like he took his mother name. I am working with those families to sort out. What I an doing on this list is called broadcasting. John Bryant ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Keith.W. Bryant" <k8w5bry79@hotmail.com> Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com To: bryant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's--- answer for Keithlastpoint Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:50:17 +1000 Hi! John, please don't take it as a personal thing. If your Bryants are like mine, then you must know that we are a somewhat reticent lot who are reluctant to convey thoughts Etc, until they are convinced that their action is the right thing, so really if you are thinking that we may be 'connected', please check-out my Website....bryantsofwellingboroughengland.com.... it goes back to 1733, so if you are not connected there, then it would be a long-shot if it were 100's of years before, would it not?. As far as checking out all your apparantly good work, that is time trouble Etc, I can assure you I in particular have not opened any sites, as I am yet to be convinced, perhaps at 83 Y'rs I may be forgiven for Scepticisim. Keith. W. Bryant. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2007 01:17:32
    1. [BRYANT] Georgia Bryants
    2. Marynell Bryant
    3. Does anyone have any information on the William BRYANT who mar Lucy Dow Christler in 1823 in Elbert Co. GA or on the William BRYANT who mar Sarah Teasley in 1820 in Elbert Co. GA?? I think they are connected to my Moses BRYANT who mar Nancy Ginn in 1817 in Elbert Co. GA.

    04/26/2007 09:36:26
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's--- answer for Keith last point
    2. John Bryant
    3. Keith Maybe you can help me out. Why are you not tested so I can see if we are related? Why are the Bryant"s not using this tool when other families are finding there history with DNA? Why do men with the Bryant surname pretend they are going to get tested so they can see my information that I paid for and work hard for, then not test? I show my whole genetic history in my signature for other to compare with but others get thanks for showing a series of unrelated census information that it would take a three researches a couple of months to figure out. In the two months I have been on this list only three more Bryant have been tested. How many Bryant men or woman with Bryant brother are on this list. No one but me show there genetic information. Regarding you last question "do we Really have to know?." I think we all need to know the truth about our history. There is a good discussion on NPE's on the DNA list check it out, about 25 post. It looks like 7 genteration ago I change surname's the test are in the work to find out more!!!! http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2007-04/1177601447 john b. ============================================================= ----Original Message Follows---- From: "John Bryant" <jofbryant@hotmail.com> Keith I would have to write a book to answer all the questions that are in your message. I will give one point at a time a try. Theory behind the Project. The GENEALOGY-DNA-L list has about 2000 to 2500 message a month by mostly Ph. D. working on that. I do not think I can even start on that one with my one year of graduate work in Statistical Analysis and my B.S.M.E. I think each person has there own purpose in getting tested and I support most all of them. John b. that it for now. Taxes are done but it late. ========================================================= John, Hi!, I am getting more confused than ever, please explain the Theory behind the Project, whose DNA are you comparing???, surely not Brian Boru, Count Brienne, or any other Ancient?. or is it to ascertain if all in any Family are truly Descendants of the same Parents, or Grand Parents.??. and also, do we Really have to know?. Keith W. BRYANT. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/26/2007 08:47:28
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Y- DNA for comparison Bryant's
    2. John Bryant
    3. Here is the Brown site. If you were adopted to Bryant from Brown.You may find your birth grand parent by being tested for Y- DNA Just onter way to compare DNA. Brown have about 400 samples to compare. http://brownsociety.org/browndna/groupresults.html John Bryant R1b1c* http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/ Irish Type III http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Irish_Type_III.htm #57501 at O’Brien project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/obrien/ Josiah Bryant Cooperative Research Group http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/index.htm ----Original Message Follows---- From: "John Bryant" <jofbryant@hotmail.com> Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com To: bryant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Y- DNA for comparison Bryant's Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:18:08 -0500 One way to start this is to get all Bryant tested then sort into Hoplogroups. There are only Three Bryant's, Three Bryan's and O'Bryant in Irish Type III that Dennis Wright is working to see if we descend from Brian Boru. You can see his work on that here! http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Surnames.htm You can see part of what of my cousin and I did here! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/bryantsite7.htm We need more that 55 Bryant's tested for this to work for everybody, get tested. john b. Keith wrote John, Hi!, I am getting more confused than ever, please explain the Theory behind the Project, whose DNA are you comparing???, surely not Brian Boru, Count Brienne, or any other Ancient?. or is it to ascertain if all in any Family are truly Descendants of the same Parents, or Grand Parents.??. and also, do we Really have to know?. Keith W. BRYANT. ============================================================= If you go to this link there is a very good slide show on Hoplogroups http://www.dnaheritage.com/haplogroups/SNP_procedure_split_1.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/24/2007 10:54:05
    1. [BRYANT] unsubscribe
    2. Eleanor Prieskorn
    3. Unsubscribe

    04/24/2007 09:39:57
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Y- DNA for comparison Bryant's
    2. John Bryant
    3. One way to start this is to get all Bryant tested then sort into Hoplogroups. There are only Three Bryant's, Three Bryan's and O'Bryant in Irish Type III that Dennis Wright is working to see if we descend from Brian Boru. You can see his work on that here! http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Surnames.htm You can see part of what of my cousin and I did here! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/bryantsite7.htm We need more that 55 Bryant's tested for this to work for everybody, get tested. john b. Keith wrote John, Hi!, I am getting more confused than ever, please explain the Theory behind the Project, whose DNA are you comparing???, surely not Brian Boru, Count Brienne, or any other Ancient?. or is it to ascertain if all in any Family are truly Descendants of the same Parents, or Grand Parents.??. and also, do we Really have to know?. Keith W. BRYANT. ============================================================= If you go to this link there is a very good slide show on Hoplogroups http://www.dnaheritage.com/haplogroups/SNP_procedure_split_1.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/24/2007 08:18:08
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Y- DNA for comparison Bryant's
    2. Eleanor Prieskorn
    3. Hello Keith, I think what the DNA will prove if you are a Bryant or OBrian, Briant and so on. As for my Family my Grandfather is out first generation and all that follows are Bryant's, My Gr Grandfather "God Rest His Sole" Was a kind man and took my grandfather to Raise at age 9, he and his wife had 3 other sons, and 1 daughter, One son died at 21 unmarried, another son never married and the third son had just girls, therefore my grandfather carried on the Bryant name, there are about 200 or more of us, so this DNA will sort us from you. Eleanor Bryant Prieskorn A Bryant for over 70 years. -----Original Message----- From: bryant-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bryant-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Bryant Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:44 PM To: bryant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Y- DNA for comparison Bryant's Keith wrote John, Hi!, I am getting more confused than ever, please explain the Theory behind the Project, whose DNA are you comparing???, surely not Brian Boru, Count Brienne, or any other Ancient?. or is it to ascertain if all in any Family are truly Descendants of the same Parents, or Grand Parents.??. and also, do we Really have to know?. Keith W. BRYANT. ============================================================= If you go to this link there is a very good slide show on Hoplogroups http://www.dnaheritage.com/haplogroups/SNP_procedure_split_1.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: 4/23/2007 5:26 PM

    04/24/2007 07:46:13
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Y- DNA for comparison Bryant's
    2. John Bryant
    3. Keith wrote John, Hi!, I am getting more confused than ever, please explain the Theory behind the Project, whose DNA are you comparing???, surely not Brian Boru, Count Brienne, or any other Ancient?. or is it to ascertain if all in any Family are truly Descendants of the same Parents, or Grand Parents.??. and also, do we Really have to know?. Keith W. BRYANT. ============================================================= If you go to this link there is a very good slide show on Hoplogroups http://www.dnaheritage.com/haplogroups/SNP_procedure_split_1.htm

    04/24/2007 06:43:59
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's
    2. John Bryant
    3. Joyce, I have seen so many surprises, I really would rather not say. My advice, is to test for the most marker you can afford now. It the best value. You have the report for ever. The total cost is more if you do it in stages. It a risk either way. In the long term Y- DNA is going to get better than paper trials. One company now own most of the patent on testing and will come with a Y100 when sales drop for Y67. I have 467 matches at Y12, because I am a R1b, the Bryant that was a N got none. R1b1 and N are Haplogroups from population studies. In my case R1b1c* come mosty from three counties in Ireland. John Bryant ============================================================= John, My mothers family are Iricks. I have one last uncle alive of our Irick line. There are only three or four prominant Irick lines in the US. I would like to have my uncles DNA taken before it is too late. However, the other Irick branches are well linked and known as far as I can find. Our branch is an orphan branch so to speak turning up in Tenn. The other branches went to Pa and Ohio mostly or were in S.C. or Ga. One was in N.Y. How can get DNA to work for out family? Joyce >From: "John Bryant" <jofbryant@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com >To: bryant@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:31:16 -0500 > >If price is a issue order a 12 marker test from the fee company and do the >free test also. You then >check your markers with the free test. You will get a exact match with your >sample in the free data base showing your matches there. You ID your sample >by the pedigree on the free sample. The fee company will notify you of your >matches. With this information you can make the decision if you have a >chance of getting useful information from more testing. The 12 marker test >will exude you from matches with other samples. Some people like me >Haplogroup R1b1 get 400 matches. The person that tested N got 0 matches. >Bryant surname have 13 sample on the free database and 55 samples on one >fee company's database. Brown surname has 400 samples on the one fee >company's database and 82 samples on the free database. One Bryant on this >list sent me his Y-search ID for his Y12 test we had GD (Genetic distant) >of 9, no chance of be related. Guide for Y12 test below. You could also >post to Y-search check that database > >http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_12.html > > > >John Bryant >R1b1c* >http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/ >Irish Type III >http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Irish_Type_III.htm >#57501 at O’Brien project >http://www.familytreedna.com/public/obrien/ >Josiah Bryant Cooperative Research Group >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/index.htm > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: wnorman918@aol.com >Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com >To: bryant@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:19:03 EDT > >Ellie, >This is just such a hard name to research. There were a ton of Bryant's >back then in that area at that time. I find scant little about my Austin, >however I find him listed, later with a Richard, in NC. The dates do not >match >with the births, but I found on the military land grants, that Austin >inherited >land as "Heir at Law" for son Richard. The plot thickens. > >Wanda > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/18/2007 08:26:32
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's
    2. joyce wilson
    3. John, My mothers family are Iricks. I have one last uncle alive of our Irick line. There are only three or four prominant Irick lines in the US. I would like to have my uncles DNA taken before it is too late. However, the other Irick branches are well linked and known as far as I can find. Our branch is an orphan branch so to speak turning up in Tenn. The other branches went to Pa and Ohio mostly or were in S.C. or Ga. One was in N.Y. How can get DNA to work for out family? Joyce >From: "John Bryant" <jofbryant@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com >To: bryant@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:31:16 -0500 > >If price is a issue order a 12 marker test from the fee company and do the >free test also. You then >check your markers with the free test. You will get a exact match with your >sample in the free data base showing your matches there. You ID your sample >by the pedigree on the free sample. The fee company will notify you of your >matches. With this information you can make the decision if you have a >chance of getting useful information from more testing. The 12 marker test >will exude you from matches with other samples. Some people like me >Haplogroup R1b1 get 400 matches. The person that tested N got 0 matches. >Bryant surname have 13 sample on the free database and 55 samples on one >fee company's database. Brown surname has 400 samples on the one fee >company's database and 82 samples on the free database. One Bryant on this >list sent me his Y-search ID for his Y12 test we had GD (Genetic distant) >of 9, no chance of be related. Guide for Y12 test below. You could also >post to Y-search check that database > >http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_12.html > > > >John Bryant >R1b1c* >http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/ >Irish Type III >http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Irish_Type_III.htm >#57501 at O’Brien project >http://www.familytreedna.com/public/obrien/ >Josiah Bryant Cooperative Research Group >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/index.htm > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: wnorman918@aol.com >Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com >To: bryant@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:19:03 EDT > >Ellie, >This is just such a hard name to research. There were a ton of Bryant's >back then in that area at that time. I find scant little about my Austin, >however I find him listed, later with a Richard, in NC. The dates do not >match >with the births, but I found on the military land grants, that Austin >inherited >land as "Heir at Law" for son Richard. The plot thickens. > >Wanda > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888

    04/18/2007 05:01:39
    1. [BRYANT] my O'Briant /Bryant
    2. joyce wilson
    3. Just about 1800 give or take 5 years, there was a Caleb O'Briantborn in S.C. He married a Jessey. I don't know when they married. They had at least three sons and one daughter that I can find records of on census reports. They are Robert, James, Joseph and Lucinda. Caleb lived in Rabun, Forysyth, and Gilmer Co. Ga. Robert and Joseph married Zelphia and Sarah Jane Charles. Lucinda married Corbin Goble. I run across an occasional Joseph OBriant/Bryant but very few Calebs. Are there any links out there? Joyce _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance $200,000 loan for as low as $771/month* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f8&disc=y&vers=689&s=4056&p=5117

    04/18/2007 04:49:30
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's
    2. ABIGAIL DENNISON
    3. Thanks for your note Wanda. I have no idea if any of my male BRYANTs are left and have not done any real reseach on my BRYANTS as I've concentrated on SHIPLEYs and QUINNs. Thanks for your note though. If I had any male BRYANTs I would recommend the FamilyTreeDNA site. Abigail ----- Original Message ----- From: <wnorman918@aol.com> To: <bryant@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's > Abigail, > I had a test done on another line for 25 markers. Later, they allowed me to > add to it to 37 markers, on the same test for a nominal price. I would > suggest that if price is an issue to try that. Also, the list set up a donation > site for financial purposes, which helps. Later because they helped me, I > donated to the cause. Their testing site is located in Phoenix. > > Wanda Norman > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/18/2007 02:14:06
    1. [BRYANT] Y- DNA for comparison Bryant's
    2. John Bryant
    3. Keith wrote John, Hi!, I am getting more confused than ever, please explain the Theory behind the Project, whose DNA are you comparing???, surely not Brian Boru, Count Brienne, or any other Ancient?. or is it to ascertain if all in any Family are truly Descendants of the same Parents, or Grand Parents.??. and also, do we Really have to know?. Keith W. BRYANT. ============================================================= Below is the Bryant's I would like to compare my Y-DNA to. Who would you like to see if you are related to!!??? Josiah Briant b.abt 1754 had five sons we have never been able to find John Bryant born late 1700's I am looking for descants of these two John Bryant to be tested for YDNA at Y67 Our family has two matching samples that tie us together to 1750 S.C. Get tested and see if you are part of this family. John Bryant b. 1760 Garrard County, Ky http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Bryant&GSfn=John+&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=19&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=7011616&; John Bryant d 1841 Adair County, KY http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Bryant&GSfn=John+&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=19&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=11973260&; I am doing genetic genealogy. My Y-DNA is tested for 67 markers. Those markers will only differ by one, two, or three if I am related to other Bryant. It is like a bar code that goes father to son does not change much for 10 or 15 generations. Do any of your Bryant’s have Y-DNA on file so we can compare to see if we related? John Bryant R1b1c* http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/ Irish Type III http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Irish_Type_III.htm #57501 at O’Brien project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/obrien/ Josiah Bryant Cooperative Research Group http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/18/2007 12:42:07
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's
    2. John Bryant
    3. If price is a issue order a 12 marker test from the fee company and do the free test also. You then check your markers with the free test. You will get a exact match with your sample in the free data base showing your matches there. You ID your sample by the pedigree on the free sample. The fee company will notify you of your matches. With this information you can make the decision if you have a chance of getting useful information from more testing. The 12 marker test will exude you from matches with other samples. Some people like me Haplogroup R1b1 get 400 matches. The person that tested N got 0 matches. Bryant surname have 13 sample on the free database and 55 samples on one fee company's database. Brown surname has 400 samples on the one fee company's database and 82 samples on the free database. One Bryant on this list sent me his Y-search ID for his Y12 test we had GD (Genetic distant) of 9, no chance of be related. Guide for Y12 test below. You could also post to Y-search check that database http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_12.html John Bryant R1b1c* http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/ Irish Type III http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Irish_Type_III.htm #57501 at O’Brien project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/obrien/ Josiah Bryant Cooperative Research Group http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/index.htm ----Original Message Follows---- From: wnorman918@aol.com Reply-To: bryant@rootsweb.com To: bryant@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:19:03 EDT Ellie, This is just such a hard name to research. There were a ton of Bryant's back then in that area at that time. I find scant little about my Austin, however I find him listed, later with a Richard, in NC. The dates do not match with the births, but I found on the military land grants, that Austin inherited land as "Heir at Law" for son Richard. The plot thickens. Wanda ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRYANT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/16/2007 10:31:16
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's
    2. Ellie, This is just such a hard name to research. There were a ton of Bryant's back then in that area at that time. I find scant little about my Austin, however I find him listed, later with a Richard, in NC. The dates do not match with the births, but I found on the military land grants, that Austin inherited land as "Heir at Law" for son Richard. The plot thickens. Wanda ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/16/2007 08:19:03
    1. Re: [BRYANT] Free dna testing for Bryant's
    2. Abigail, I had a test done on another line for 25 markers. Later, they allowed me to add to it to 37 markers, on the same test for a nominal price. I would suggest that if price is an issue to try that. Also, the list set up a donation site for financial purposes, which helps. Later because they helped me, I donated to the cause. Their testing site is located in Phoenix. Wanda Norman ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

    04/16/2007 08:08:46
    1. [BRYANT] Basic DNA Knowledge
    2. John Bryant
    3. I found this good reference I am sharing http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/DNA-Introduction.shtml John Bryant R1b1c* http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b/ Irish Type III http://au.geocities.com/t120r61/Irish_Type_III.htm #57501 at O’Brien project http://www.familytreedna.com/public/obrien/ Josiah Bryant Cooperative Research Group http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ourbryants/index.htm

    04/16/2007 11:16:39