Lou, It is the same line that I'm researching with the Patrick Bruce. Also, I've got some documentation on the Patrick Bruce line. I'll send it along later. Thomas Bruce who was christened November 6, 1664 at Fordyce Parish, Aberdeen, Scotland. I have that his son John was born September 7, 1690 (it could be a christening date as I got the information second-hand) John had 5 children: Mary, married William Albin 1737; Margaret married Richard Carter; James was born in Scotland and married Margaret McMahon June 10, 1744 in Frederick County, VA. James died after August 1880, probably in KY; George married Rachel Littler, Frederick County, VA, died 1880, Frederick County, VA; and Anne married James McCoy probably 1747, died 1808 probably Uniontown, PA. James, son of John had a son James. For lots of good information on the Bruce family line, I would recommend the book "John Bruce of the Shenandoah". It includes the families of all of John's children (some are more complete than others). Carol Geiss