As there has been a lot of movement on the "BRUCE" lineage and some seem to think that there line comes from Scotland, may be they should look at the Cleveland / Yorkshire area as this is where Robert de Brus settled when he came to England from Normanby with William the Conqueror around 1066 later the name was changed by deed of parliament to Bruce, it was one of his sons that went to Scotland and married the daughter of their King. There are other theories to on when the name firstly came to England but this is the most popular one. However there are still Bruces living in Yorkshire Durham and Cleveland. One of the best authorities on the Bruce name is Jean Smallwood as she has done many years of research on the name, the last I heard she was writing a book on the research she has done on the Bruce name. Bruce Bedford

This would seem to be right in sentiment, but truncated in genertions. As stated, it is accepted that Robert de Brus, or de Breux, came over with the conqueror and was indeed rewarded with the manor of Danby, in Cleveland, among others. His GRANDSON, also Robert, the third son in that generation was given the fief of Annandale. HIS son married a daughter of William the Lyon, and HIS son, ie the fifth Robert, who died in 1245 (obviously not a son of the one who came over with William in 1066 or thereabouts) was the one who married into the Scottish royal house, his wife being Isabel, daughter of Henry of Scotland. This fifth Robert had a son, Robert, and he in turn had a son, Robert, who married Marjory, Countess of Carrick, they being the parents of King Robert the Bruce, 1274-1329. The arms of the Scottish Bruces and the Yorkshire Bruces are the same except for the colours. The Scottish ones are red on gold and the Yorkshire ones blue on silver. Rowland Bruce, born Dewsbury, Yorkshire, 1939. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Bedford <bedfordp@winshop.com.au> To: <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 9:00 PM Subject: The BRUCE'S of England > As there has been a lot of movement on the "BRUCE" lineage and some seem to think that there line comes from Scotland, may be they should look at the Cleveland / Yorkshire area as this is where Robert de Brus settled when he came to England from Normanby with William the Conqueror around 1066 later the name was changed by deed of parliament to Bruce, it was one of his sons that went to Scotland and married the daughter of their King. There are other theories to on when the name firstly came to England but this is the most popular one. However there are still Bruces living in Yorkshire Durham and Cleveland. One of the best authorities on the Bruce name is Jean Smallwood as she has done many years of research on the name, the last I heard she was writing a book on the research she has done on the Bruce name. > > Bruce Bedford > > > ==== BRUCE Mailing List ==== > >