I have been watching this Bruce List for many, many months waiting for lightening to strike and it has with three postings in the last couple of weeks regarding my wife's ancestors (I'm the genealogist of the family). These postings were: Douglas Parker = son William Bruce s/o James Bruce Sr s/o John Bruce of Winchester Va Harman Clark = son James Bruce Jr s/o James Bruce Sr s/o John Bruce of Winchester Va Jo (near Atlanta) = son James Bruce Jr s/o James Bruce Sr s/o John Bruce of Winchester Va add to the list my wife Charlotte Terry = daughter Margaret Bruce d/o James Bruce Sr s/o John Bruce of Winchester Va Margaret Bruce married David Cox - they had Margaret Ann Cox who married William Friend McMahon Sr -- etc. I have lots of data regarding this Cox - McMahon connection. This McMahon was also descended from the McMahon line which brought forth the Margaret McMahon who was the spouse of our James Bruce Sr. All of the information I have on the John Bruce family came from the book entitled "JOHN BRUCE of THE SHENANDOAH" written by Violet Laverne Bruce and privately published in 1987. I am very much interested in opening a dialogue with all persons who have an interest in this JOHN BRUCE line. I would particularly be interested in any and all data regarding the parentage of John Bruce and the sources of information. Our daughter has an Englishman for a husband and lives in London. On trips there I have researched at the Public Records Office in London and also at the Scottish Registers Office in Edinburg -- at those times, I was researching my McCulloch line and did not have the Bruce connection to investigate. We plan another trip to the UK in May so hope that, with my new connections here on the Bruce List, I can develop a Bruce research plan to work on at that time. With Best Regards Don D. Terry 2116 Vista Ridge Drive Kerrville Tx 78028-9137 e-mail ddterry@hilconet.com

I have my grandchildren's connection to Bruce pretty well documented, but am seeking parents, etc., of Mary "Polly" Runyan, wife of James Bruce, Jr., as follows: 1. James Bruce, Jr. b. 02 Apr 1760, Brucetown, Frederick Co., VA, (son of James Bruce, Sr. and Margaret McMahan) m. 15 Mar 1778, in Brucetown, Frederick Co., VA, Mary Runyan, b. 27 May 1761, d. 04 Feb 1846. James died 06 Jan 1835, Corydon, Harrison Co., IN, Twin. NGSQ 20: 67-68 Bruce Bible Records. Notes for JAMES BRUCE, JR. (A TWIN): 1784 - Moved from North Branch of Potomac, Maryland to Nelson County, KY 1806 - Moved from Kentucky to Corydon, Harrison County, IN Revolutionary War Service Book B - Record of Wills, Pages 181-184, Floyd County, Indiana Will dated March 9th, 1832 State of Indiana Probate Court of the Town of Harrison County 3 February 1835 Children: 2. i Anne Bruce (1.James1) b. 14 Mar 1780, Allegheny Co., PA, m. 1795, Capt. William Reedy Sr., d. 1816, Indiana. Anne died Indiana. NGSQ 20: 67-68 Bruce Bible Records. There she is listed as "Amy". 3. ii Margaret Bruce b. 29 Nov 1781. 4. iii Piety Bruce b. 30 Mar 1784. 5. iv Elizabeth Bruce b. 27 Oct 1786. 6. v Mary Bruce b. 25 Oct 1788, m. 13 Mar 1809, in Ohio Co., KY, James Johnston. 7. vi Jane Bruce b. 15 Nov 1790, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, m. 31 Oct 1811, in Harrison Co., IN, Dickson Brown. Jane died 26 Feb 1840, Harrison Co., IN. 8. vii Sarah Bruce b. 17 Nov 1792, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, m. 27 Nov 1812, in Harrison Co., IN, James Stephens. Sarah died Harrison Co., IN. 9. viii James Robert Bruce b. 04 Jul 1794, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, m. (1) 15 Dec 1815, in Harrison Co., IN, Sarah Davis, m. (2) circa 1840, Eliza Jane Wiley. James died 08 Feb 1863, Bennington, Ottawa Co., KS. 10. ix Nancy Bruce b. 01 Apr 1796, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, m. 17 Oct 1820, in Harrison Co., IN, John W. Tewmey, b. 1794, d. 08 Mar 1853. Nancy died 10 Feb 1862, Harrison Co., IN. Birth date -- NGSQ 20: 67-68 Bruce Bible Records. John: NGSQ 20: 67-68 Bruce Bible Records. He died age 59 years - 4 months - 1 day. 11. x William May Bruce b. 17 Mar 1798, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, m. (1) 26 Dec 1820, in Floyd Co., IN, Catherine Bowman, m. (2) 26 Feb 1847, in Harrison Co., IN, Susan Gwartney Wright. William died 29 Sep 1859, Harrison Co., IN. 12. xi George Harvey Bruce, Sr. b. 18 Dec 1799, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, m. 26 Oct 1824, in Harrison Co., IN, Frances Kepley. George died 04 Oct 1864, Corydon, Harrison Co., IN. 13. xii Joseph Bruce b. 19 Mar 1802, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, d. circa 1824, Harrison Co., IN. 14. xiii John Bruce b. 26 Jan 1804, Coxes Creek, Nelson Co., KY, m. 15 Mar 1824, in Harrison Co., IN, Ellen J. Lemmon. John died before 1850. All clues appreciated. Harman Clark P.O. Box 311, Sheffield, VT 05866 hclark@plainfield.bypass.com

Hello, Norris, Your request: >>Does anyone recognize the Zipporah Bruce mentioned in this sketch?<< Yes, she is listed in Westborough vital records. p.29, Births as: "Zipra, d. Ephraim and Mary, Feb.7, 1753." Ephraim, her father, is also listed in Westbrough vital records, p.29, and he was the son of Abijah and Mary(WOODS), b. Nov.15, 1724. Abijah was the son of Roger (2) BRUCE, who m. Elizabeth FORBUSH. Roger was the son of Thomas(1) and Magdalen(______) BRUCE.. My descent is through Ephraim's brother, Artemas (4) BRUCE. Claudia Cridland

Dear Bruce List, This is just a quick note to tell everyone I am still working on the information from the book I found. I haven't forgotten. I am just really short on time lately. I am in transition from one job to another and am also a student working on term papers and finals. I am working on a tree that can be sent as an email attachment to all that are interested. I will then send out hard copies of the information to anyone who wants them. I have access to free copies so there won't be any charge for them. Be patient and I will work as fast as I can. :-) I am going thru emails soon and will try to do look up's for those of you that requested specific information. Sheri

I have 3 grandchildren who are descended from James Bruce, Jr. b. 02 Apr 1760, Brucetown, Frederick Co., VA, m. 15 Mar 1778, in Brucetown, Frederick Co., VA, Mary Runyan. James died 06 Jan 1835, Corydon, Harrison Co., IN. through their first child Anne Bruce b. 14 Mar 1780. Allegheny Co., PA, m. 1795, Capt. William Reedy Sr., d. 1816, Indiana. Anne died Indiana. I believe I have pretty good data on Anne Bruce's ancestry, but would like to exchange data with those "connected". Also, I am looking for anyone who may have information on the ancestry of Mary "Polly" Runyan, who married James Bruce, Jr., as above. Harman Clark P.O. Box 311, Sheffield, VT 05866 hclark@plainfield.bypass.com

Does anyone recognize the Zipporah Bruce mentioned in this sketch? If she is from Thomas & Magdalen, would like to know her lineage. MAYNARD, Horace, statesman, was born in Westboro, Mass., Aug. 30, 1814; son of Ephraim and Diana (Cogswell) Maynard; grandson of Jonathan and Zipporah (Bruce) Maynard, and of James and Rebecca (Cotton) Cogswell, and a descendant in the sixth generation from Sir John Maynard, proprietor of Sudbury, Mass., 16-38; and from John Cogswell, 1635. Thanks Norris Taylor -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

On Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:17:28 -0500, you wrote: >Sherri, > >This is my first time writing to the Bruce Digest. I am very interested in >the Thomas Bruce and son David Bruce line. I have gathered a lot of >information on Thomas, but I don't have much of anything on David. He died >early and left only one child - David Bruce, Jr. The following is my >descent line: > >1. Thomas Bruce and Magdalene > 2. David Bruce/Mary Bigelow > 3. David Bruce (b. Dec. 20, 1700, Watertown, MA) > Hannah Pierce (b. Nov. 1, 1724, Watertown, MA) > 4. Elijah Bruce (b. Nov. 2, 1741, Greenwich, MA) I have a first wife for David of Mary Brigham, m February 20, 1727, and go no further. Does that agree with your records? Since you are also a Bigelow, Flagg, and Warren, you might be interested in parts of my New England Page, here: http://members.tripod.com/~ntgen/bw/index.html You'll see some Presidents and Notable Kin to you there. Norris Taylor -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

Merry Christmas Bruces Here is a present for you. Bruce tartan wallpaper. Go to www.uniq-orn.com and get a beautiful image of the Bruce Tartan to use as background for your Windows computer. Don't forget to set your background to tile, so it will fill the whole screen. Chuck Hargis

I have changed my e-mail name. How do I change on the list. old: niperhse@nwlink.com new: scotlass@nwlink.com

Hi Jo: Thanks so much. I did have the info on the Bruces back to Patrick, but have wondered after visiting Scotland if the family would have moved as much between generations. The distances between Banff, Portsoy, Longside and Leochel-Cushnie, where John's children were christened, is not insignficant. But, it certainly is possible. Leochel-Cushnie is a tiny rural hamlet 30 plus miles west of Aberdeen. One truly seems to go back in time to venture over hill and through forest to reach it. There is no village proper there, just an old church and scattered farms. We also met some very friendly "Highland Coos" (cattle), which look like shaggy Texas Longhorns, in Leochel-Cushnie. We took some pictures of the Leochel-Cushnie area and am thinking about scanning them and sending them on to interest Bruce cousins if I can figure out how to do so. Doug Parker ~~~~~~~~ JGARLOW@aol.com wrote: > > Doug -- I also descend from John Bruce, who settled > in Winchester, VA @ 1740 and died there in 1748. I descend from his son > James Bruce (m. Margaret McMahon) > James Bruce Jr (m. Mary Polly Runyan) > > George Harvey Bruce Sr (m. Frances Kepley) > George Harvey Bruce Jr (m. Sarah > Ann Reynolds) > James Richard Bruce (m. Leonora Walker) > Samuel Everett Sr > (m. Ruth V. Nicholson) > Samuel Everett Jr (m. Jeanne C. Germain) > me (Joelle > Bruce (m. Gary Garlow). I, too, am interested in corresponding with others > in this line. > > I don't have any further information than you probably have about John Bruce's > birth in Scotland. Here's what I have on John Bruce and his ancestors: > > John Bruce (son of Thomas Bruce/Bruice) was christened in the Church of > Scotland (Presbyterian) on 7 Sep 1690. In Aberdeen Scotland, three of John's > children were also christened: James on 20 May 1720, George or 27 Apr 1722 > and Margaret on 5 Mar 1727. [Source: LDS Microfilm of Parish Records of > Church of Scotland.] > > Thomas was christened on 6 Nov 1664 at Longside, Aberdeen Scotland. (Source: > Ancestral File Number Z4M3-SR, Jul 1996) > > James was christened 13 Feb 1632 at Banff, Banff Scotland (Source: Scottish > Church Records, 1995 Edition, Version 1.10) > > Patrick was born ca 1600 at Banff, Banff Scotland (Source: Scottish Church > Records, 1995 Edition, Version 1.10) > > I have no independent confirmation on these four folks. Have not had much > chance to do any recent research as I travel about 3 weeks each month for my > job. Am most interested in what you might have found on your trip to > Scotland. I am envious that you were able to go....I plan to do so someday. > > Let me know if my information is erroneous or if I can help in some other way. > Thanks Jo (near Atlanta)

Sherri, This is my first time writing to the Bruce Digest. I am very interested in the Thomas Bruce and son David Bruce line. I have gathered a lot of information on Thomas, but I don't have much of anything on David. He died early and left only one child - David Bruce, Jr. The following is my descent line: 1. Thomas Bruce and Magdalene 2. David Bruce/Mary Bigelow 3. David Bruce (b. Dec. 20, 1700, Watertown, MA) Hannah Pierce (b. Nov. 1, 1724, Watertown, MA) 4. Elijah Bruce (b. Nov. 2, 1741, Greenwich, MA) Eunice Rice(b. Mar. 16, 1755, Sudbury, MA) 5. James Bruce (b. abt. 1778, Greenwich, MA) Sarah (Sally) Wright, (b. Nov. 9, 1778, Pelham, MA) 6. Ebenezer Bruce (b. Feb. 21, 1801, Greenwich, MA) Elmira Blackmer (b. Oct. 31, 1799,Greenwich, MA) 7. Charles Bruce (b. September 3, 1839, Woodbury, VT) Abby Lurancia Hall (b. June 4, 1850, Wolcott, VT) 8. George Henry Bruce (b. Mar. 21, 1868, Woodbury, VT) Ella May Pierce ( b.Montpelier, VT 9. Mason Blackmer Bruce/Catherine Heaphy 10. Betsy Bruce Olsen I have a copy of the Fahey et. al. article, but I would be very happy to receive the enlarged article and corresponding materials. Thank you in advance for what you can send. Is Cedar Rapids, Iowa anywhere near Red Oak, Iowa? Charles Bruce (#7) and his wife left Vermont in 1870 for Red Oak and stayed there until 1875. He had hoped that the weather there would be good for his health. In 1875 they moved on to Turner, Oregon where he later died. I am wondering if there might be some family connection. In a family where the children were given family names, I am unable to discover where the George and the Henry came from. I have had difficulty with the Sarah (Sally) Wright line and with the Blackmer line in Greenwich, MA. Thanks again, Sherri, and to anyone else who might be able to add to my family history. Betsy (Bruce) Olsen

Paul Tumblin, I inadvertently deleted your msg about a LAURA BRUCE ( think that was the name) from SC? I'd like to have you contact me w/that information again, if you will. My mother was a BRUCE & it's possible that there are 2 lines of BRUCE in her family - we've not been able to determine that completely yet. One is a definite NC line of BRUCEs (from the Iredell/Alexander Cos., NC area. The other may be a SC line of BRUCE. Thanks for your time, Sarah shstu@aol.com

Can anyone help me find Alexander Bruce who died in Nottoway Va 1795? One person said it was archived here. Can you help? Thanks, lburress@inquo.net ---------- > From: BRUCE-D-request@rootsweb.com > To: BRUCE-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: BRUCE-D Digest V98 #98 > Date: Sunday, November 15, 1998 3:18 AM >

I have a few pages taken from a book entitled Alexander Bruce of Southside Virginia and Some of His Descendants. There is a lot of info about Alexander Bruce, Jr., who married Mary "Polly" Lipscomb in Nottoway Co., VA. I ordered it from my county library, but since I was requesting material on John Daniel and John Wesley Bruce, they copied only those pages that they thought were pertinent. For instance, the first page I have is #416. I feel sure that you would find what you are after in this book. It was compiled and edited by June A. Bruce Stubbs and came to me from the McClung Collection, East Tennessee Historical Center, Knoxville, Tennessee. Let me know if you have any luck obtaining it. I will be near Knoxville in a few weeks and will be glad to try to get it for you if you run into a problem. Other associated surnames include Lipscomb, Brown,Watson, Fowlkes, Cabaniss, Neal, Baynes, Gayle, and Wootton. Frances Bruce

Thomas ROWLETT married Lucy BRUCE on 19 October 1807 Prince Edward Co. VA. Lucy was daughter of Alexander BRUCE and Ann PENICK. Rockingham Co. NC Will Book B Pages 263-265 Written 15 January 1840 Probated August Court 1840 "I Thomas ROWLETT, of the County of Rockingham and State of No. Carolina, being of sound mind and memory, but considering the uncertainty of my earthly existence, do make and declare this my last will and testament in manner and form following, this is to say, First that my executors hereafter named shall provide for my body a decent burial suitable to the wishes of my relations and friends, and pay all funeral expenses together with my just debts howsoever and to whom same owing out of the monies that may first come into their hands as a part or parcel of my estate. Item. I lend to my beloved wife, Lucy ROWLETT, all of my estate real and personal during her natural life except such part as I shall hereinafter otherwise dispose of. Item. I give to my eldest son Peter Mc ROWLETT one grey horse called Bob to have and to hold to him and his heirs forever, which said horse is now in his possession. Item. I give to my son Vivaldi, one sorrel horse called Wattington to him and his heirs, now in his possession. And it is further my will and desire that my executors hereinafter named permit my two sons, Peter Mc ROWLETT and Vivaldi to manage my farm and lands and out of the proceeds of my farm and lands, my two sons, aforesaid, are to provide a decent support for their mother during her life, and it is also my will and desire that my sons out of the above said means do provide a decent support for my two daughters, Missouri Bruce and Lucy Benson during the natural life of their mother or until they marry. I give and bequeath to my two daughters, Missouri and Lucy, one good bed and furniture each to be raised out of my estate. Item. It is my will and desire that my two sons, Peter Mc and Vivaldi after providing for my wife and two daughters as hereinbefore directed shall have all the profits arising from my farm and lands as aforesaid as a consideration for their services. It is my wish that if there should not be sufficent funds in hand or due to me at the time of my death to satisfy all my just claims against me then in that event I wish my executors hereinafter named to sell such property on a credit of nine months as my wife and two sons my think they can best spare in order to satisfy and pay all my just debts. Item. I give and bequeath to my three daughters who are now married, each one bed and furniture to them and their heirs which they now have in their possession. Item. It is my will and desire that after the death of my wife Lucy, that my property both real and personal not herinbefore given to my children, shall be equally divided among and between all my children to-wit: Elvira GUERRANT, Bellermia PATTERSON, Ann PATTERSON, Missouri ROWLETT, Peter Mc ROWLETT, Vivaldi ROWLETT and Lucy Benson ROWLETT, share and share alike, and lastly I do nominate, constitute and appoint my two sons-in-law, Peter D. GUERRANT and Wm C. PATTERSON executors to this my last will and testament, in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this fifteenth day of January in the year of our Lord, Eighteen hundred and forty. Signed: Thomas ROWLETT (Seal) Signed, published and declared by the Testator, Thomas ROWLETT, in the presents of us to be his last will and testament. Jo HOLDERBY Thomas W. WARRINER Wm I. GILLIAM

The Bruce List, Not my family. Upper Canada Land Petitions (RG1, L3) for Kingston, Ontario, Canada for the name Joseph Bruce. Bruce, Joseph, 1819, Kingston, Vol. 42, Bundle B12/126, microfilm C1625 Bruce, Joseph, 1829, Kingston, Vol. 273, Bundle K15/54, microfilm C2119 Bruce, Joseph, 1836, Kingston, Vol. 59, Bundle B19/110, microfilm C1632 Bruce, Joseph, 1840, Kingston, Vol. 276A, Bundle K22/56, microfilm C2120 Bruce, Joseph, 1845, Kingston, Vol. 277, Bundle K3/16, microfilm C2121

> I am a new member of the list. I descend from John Bruce, who settled in Winchester, VA @ 1740 and died there in 1748. I descend from his son James Bruce (m. Margaret McMahon), grandson William Bruce (m. Polly Lucas Perciful), ggrandson Major William Bruce (m. Sally Polk) gggrandson William Doctor Bruce (m. Betsey Polk), ggggrandaughter Achsah L. Bruce (m. James Parker), ggggggrandson William Bruce Parker (m. Minnie Short), ggggggrandson Bruce V. Parker (m. Lucille Chessman) and my father Walter Bruce Parker (m. Patricia Ertman). Am interested in corresponding with others in this line. In addition, I have several questions: > 1. Has anyone conclusive proof that John Bruce descended from Thomas Bruice (b. Portsoy, Aberdeenshire, SCT) and James Bruce (b. Longside, Aberdeenshire, SCT)? Where exactly in Scotland was John Bruce born? When did the family move to Leochel-Cushnie Parish, Aberdeenshire? I have just returned from Aberdeenshire and am happy to share my observations and findings. > 2. Does anyone know about the parentage of Polly Lucas, who married William Bruce, Sr.? According to LDS records, Polly's father was William Lucas, born ABT 1711 in Lancaster Co., PA. Polly and William Bruce are mentioned in a Lucas family geneaology as having received land from a Barton Lucas in the Washington, PA area. The Lucas geneaology includes a brother of Barton, William Lucas who was born in 1713/4. He fought in the Revolutionary War (despite being over 60 years old!) and died in Anne Arundel Co, MD. His wife's name was Mary and they had a son George Lucas. Polly was also called Mary. Does anyone know if this William Lucas was Polly's father? (Note that in his memoirs, Major William Bruce stated that Polly's father had been a seafarer). > 3. Am trying to learn more about Achsah Van Meter, William Doctor Bruce's aunt/mother-in-law (William married his first cousin). Achsah Van Meter married Edward Polk in Kentucky and apparently was living in Knox County, Indiana when Edward was killed in the War of 1812. According to LDS, she was born in Shelby Co., KY @ 1786, but cannot find her in any Van Meter genealogies. > Thank you for any and all information. > Doug Parker

Hi, My name is Lissa Bruce. I was born & raised in Peterborough, Ontario Canada. I was born in March of 73. I was wondering if anyone on this list could be related to me. - My father is Robert John Bruce - his parents are Cecile Hoagg<?>(1919) and William O. Bruce(1918). I have an Uncle Wayne Bruce. I believe my grandparents came from Scotland. Any info./comments will be welcomed. Thanks, Lissa Bruce Kingston, ON. Canada ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

These are all the BRUCE entries in the 1790 North Carolina census that I found over the weekend. Please feel free to use them as you need - I tried to spell check! Laurel Crook lcrook@fhu.edu ---------------------------------------------------- Heads of Families at the First Census of the United States Taken in the Year 1790 North Carolina 1973, Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc. Number Key: 1st number=Free white males age 16 years and older 2nd number=Free white males under age 16 3rd number=Free white females 4th number=All other free persons 5th number=Slaves BRUCE Entries Only Caswell County, Gloucester District (Taken from County Tax Lists according to book) Bruce, Robert, Sr. 1 0 0 0 0 Bruce, John 1 0 0 0 0 Bruce, Alexander 1 0 0 0 0 Bruce, Robert, Jr. 1 0 0 0 0 Wake County, Hillsborough District Bruce, Arnell 1 0 5 0 1 Bruce, Peter, Sr. 2 2 3 0 0 Bruce, Peter E. 1 3 3 0 0 Craven County, Newbern District Bruce, James 1 2 2 0 1 Nash County, Halifax District Bruce, James 1 1 1 0 0 Surry County, Salisbury District Bruce, John 2 3 5 0 3 Northampton County, Halifax District Bruce, Moses 1 0 0 0 0 Wilkes County, Morgan District Bruce, Robert 1 1 2 0 0 Halifax County, Halifax District Bruce, William 1 2 5 0 0 ------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================= ILGenWeb County Coordinator, White County, Illinois http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwhite2 Personal Site http://www.fhu.edu/~lcrook

Are they any descendants of James Bruce of Greene Co. Ohio? James md. Rebecca Harris there in 1806. They reportedly had several children. James was the son of George Bruce who fought in the Revolutionary War. James and George Bruce were also descendants of "John Bruce of the Shenandoahs". Would like to correspond with others of this line. Vickie