In a message dated 7/4/99 12:19:24 PM Central Daylight Time, BRUCE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Now, this > could very well have been Phoebe Kuykendal BRUCE, as ALL her children, > but one, left the area where she lived when they married. I wonder if your Phoebe Kuykendal Bruce came from Sumner Co., TN. There was a Kuykendal family there in the early years -- 1800 give or take a few -- that had some pretty mean men in it. I don't recall the source, but I remember reading that two of them were literally run out of town and told never to return. The story stuck with me because Priscilla Bloodworth sued a Kuykendal man for getting her with child, and I am a Bloodworth descendant. I'm also a Bruce descendant, and during that same time period there were several Bruce brothers and their families in Sumner Co. Joyce

Does anyone connect to or know about this BRUCE family? Am looking for parents of Eli BRUCE b 1783,?MA and other details and corrections. Eli C Bruce b 1783 MA m Hannah _____. Lived Summit, Schoharie co, NY and LaGrange, Lorain co, OH; d 1840 Carlisle twp, OH. ch: Betsy m Edward SHEPHERD Niram c1806-1863 m Irene JOHNSON Hannah 1811-1882 m Loami STODDARD-- our ancestor Eli b 1818 Otsego NY - 1902 m Permila ALCOTT Isaac V 1821-1883 m Julia Ann PANGBORN I appreciate all efforts to help and will gladly share information. ekjohnson

Thanks so much. AnnaLee -----Original Message----- From: JULIAFWOOD@aol.com <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Patrick Bruce >In a message dated 07/03/1999 6:13:27 PM Central Daylight Time, >ala4@ix.netcom.com writes: > >> HI Carol, When you find a person on the IGI, online, & it lists >> the Batch number, is there a way, online, to go on to that >> information? I searched the directions with no success. > >If you click on the tab, "Custom Search", there is a place to put the Batch >number. > >Put only the surname in the search spaces, not the first name, and your >search, with the batch number will bring up everyone, with that surname, in >that batch. > >Julia > >

HI Carol, When you find a person on the IGI, online, & it lists the Batch number, is there a way, online, to go on to that information? I searched the directions with no success. -----Original Message----- From: Dean Geiss <geiss@worldnet.att.net> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 3:08 PM Subject: Fw: Patrick Bruce > > >>All the information I have on James and Patrick Bruce came from the >following >>sources at the LDS Genealogy Library in Salt Lake City, Utah: >> >>1) "Scottish Church Records - 1995 Edition - Version 1.10." >>2) "Ancestral File Number Z4M3-MW July 1996, The Church of Latter-day >Saints. >>3) "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Genealogy Library" >Documents: >> Batch Dates Source Call No. Type >>Printout Call No. Type >> C111472 1622-1652 990815 Film 6901967 >> Fiche >> 1752-1720 990816 Film >> 1783-1789 990817 Film >> 1806-1820 990818 >> >>Source 1) above has Patrick as the father of James. >> >Carol Geiss > >

>All the information I have on James and Patrick Bruce came from the following >sources at the LDS Genealogy Library in Salt Lake City, Utah: > >1) "Scottish Church Records - 1995 Edition - Version 1.10." >2) "Ancestral File Number Z4M3-MW July 1996, The Church of Latter-day Saints. >3) "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Genealogy Library" Documents: > Batch Dates Source Call No. Type >Printout Call No. Type > C111472 1622-1652 990815 Film 6901967 > Fiche > 1752-1720 990816 Film > 1783-1789 990817 Film > 1806-1820 990818 > >Source 1) above has Patrick as the father of James. > Carol Geiss

For those of you who might be interested, The URL for the Bruce Genealogy Forum is: http://genforum.genealogy.com/bruce/ Carol Geiss

Lou, It is the same line that I'm researching with the Patrick Bruce. Also, I've got some documentation on the Patrick Bruce line. I'll send it along later. Thomas Bruce who was christened November 6, 1664 at Fordyce Parish, Aberdeen, Scotland. I have that his son John was born September 7, 1690 (it could be a christening date as I got the information second-hand) John had 5 children: Mary, married William Albin 1737; Margaret married Richard Carter; James was born in Scotland and married Margaret McMahon June 10, 1744 in Frederick County, VA. James died after August 1880, probably in KY; George married Rachel Littler, Frederick County, VA, died 1880, Frederick County, VA; and Anne married James McCoy probably 1747, died 1808 probably Uniontown, PA. James, son of John had a son James. For lots of good information on the Bruce family line, I would recommend the book "John Bruce of the Shenandoah". It includes the families of all of John's children (some are more complete than others). Carol Geiss

Ok, here's another quandry! <G> My ggf, Terrill Wilkie BRUCE, son of George Osborn and Phoebe Kuykendall BRUCE, of Woodstock, Cherokee Co. GA, was in the 1850 Cherokee Co. census with his widowed mother and younger siblings. In 1852, he is in Long Shoals, Greene Co. GA where he married Martha Rebecca THIGPEN. A few years later, before 1860, he, his family, his m-i-l and her younger children moved to Sparta, Hancock Co. GA where many of them lived out their lives. Terrill's father died around 1848, and he was the eldest son. I find it odd that he would leave his mother alone with all the younger children and go so far to be married. What on earth took him to Greene Co.? Were the other BRUCES there kin???? The earliest I have that line is as follows: James, of Wolf Creek SC; James, Jr. Habersham Co. GA; George Osborn; Terrill Wilkie. That brings me to the family story. Dad said that one of his female ancestors was SO mean that she lived out in the woods alone. When she was found dead of UN-natural means, no one bothered to find out who did it, as they considered it a service to the community!!!!!!! Now, this could very well have been Phoebe Kuykendal BRUCE, as ALL her children, but one, left the area where she lived when they married. One son, Abraham, who lost an arm in the Civil War, never married, and I believe he lived with his mother. Anne Bowden Searching: Clark, Bruce, Thigpen, Kuykendall, Sheppard, Pittard, Tanner, Cole http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/3387 ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

In a message dated 07/03/1999 6:13:27 PM Central Daylight Time, ala4@ix.netcom.com writes: > HI Carol, When you find a person on the IGI, online, & it lists > the Batch number, is there a way, online, to go on to that > information? I searched the directions with no success. If you click on the tab, "Custom Search", there is a place to put the Batch number. Put only the surname in the search spaces, not the first name, and your search, with the batch number will bring up everyone, with that surname, in that batch. Julia

Couldn't find a few more James, Johns or Azeil's could we.!!!!!!! Ephriam BRUCE was the JP in Green CO GA as best I remember. I too will have to pull out old notes but looks like together we can solve some problems. Randol only had 2 ch. Thomas D & Mary A. (that i can prove) Don't know what happened to Mary. 1840 Mary MAPP was pd expenses of guardianship of Mary CHATMAN & Thomas & CHATMAN orphans of Randol CHATMAN. 08 Mar 1848 John BONNER guardian & James MOORE surety posted bond as guardian of person & property of Thomas D CHAPMAN minor & orphan of Randol. In May he married Elizabeth Catherine MENTON BRUCE, widow of Azeil with son Wm. she was 21, Thomas was 17. Would be very interested in knowing details of Azeil's (Sr) estate. Thomas & Catherine had 11 ch. My gt gr father Wm Robert Lee was # 8. Came to TX 1892 with wife Maria(also a CHAPMAN, maiden name) & died there in 1920 In Notes: 1832 GA Land Lottery 24th Dist 3rd Sec-Cherokee #86 Randol CHAPMAN m.s. 162nd Greene #87 James BRUCE m.s. 162 Greene 1820 census Randol was the only CHAPMAN next to James & Azeil BRUCE Randol m Elizabeth TALLEY in 1822. I have Thomas D b 1829--no date for Mary A Elizabeth must have died because 1833 he m again to Nancy PERKINS who had 5 ch. but he died in 1836. Randol left plantation to wife Nancy &, son Wm Marion(his or hers??) & other ch. Witnesses: James BRUCE, Joel BRUCE & Rubin P TURNER Recorded 24 Dec. 1836 In 1835 Randol was awarded custody of 5 PERKINS ch & in Jan 1837 guardianship of 5 minor PERKINS ch was given back to Nancy. Answers--- conclusions --- connections anyone????????? AnnaLee Dallas -----Original Message----- From: Jerry E. Davis Jr. <kb5eko@pdq.net> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 9:58 PM Subject: Re: Patrick Bruce >Hi Ceridwen and Anna, > Been reading your postings and thought i would add some input. The James >Bruce mentioned in Greene Co., GA is the son of Aziel and Elizabeth Bruce. >Aziel Bruce is the son of George Bruce Who died 1806 in Edgecombe Co., NC >and Susannah Barnes. Hope this helps. If Ya'll need some more information >let me know > >---------- >> From: Ceridwen Attwood <cattwood@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us> >> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: Patrick Bruce >> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 11:36 PM >> >> I would love to see some more concrete information on this line; I wonder >> if there is a connection with my family. I have a James Bruce, b. >> abt. 1768 Culpeper VA, who is supposed to be the son of a John Bruce b. >> abt. 1740, in Scotland. This James had a son James b. 1 Jun 1790, also >in >> VA. Doesn't quite jive with the information given below, but who knows? >> My information could be wrong, or yours could. Or my John might be a son >> of John Bruce & Sarah Cole mentioned below. Or...who knows? Anyone else >> have more info on this family? >> >> *CERIDWEN* >> >> On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Lou Miles wrote: >> >> > I have a Thomas BRUCE who, I believe had a son John, christened 7 Sep >1690 >> > in Fordyce, Par., Banff, Scotland. >> > John m. Sarah COLE. John had a son I believe to be James BRUCE who >married >> > a Margaret McMahon 10 June >> > 1744 in Spotsylvania, Frederick, VA. I believe he died in Nelson Co., >KY >> > in 1795. >> > >> > I think James had a son James BRUCE b. 15 November, 1790 in Coxes >Creek, >> > Nelson, KY. M. Mary "Polly" RUNYAN >> > 30 Oct 1811 in Harrison, IN. Died 26 Feb 1840 Harrison, IN. >> > >> > >

Hi Ceridwen and Anna, Been reading your postings and thought i would add some input. The James Bruce mentioned in Greene Co., GA is the son of Aziel and Elizabeth Bruce. Aziel Bruce is the son of George Bruce Who died 1806 in Edgecombe Co., NC and Susannah Barnes. Hope this helps. If Ya'll need some more information let me know ---------- > From: Ceridwen Attwood <cattwood@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us> > To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Patrick Bruce > Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 11:36 PM > > I would love to see some more concrete information on this line; I wonder > if there is a connection with my family. I have a James Bruce, b. > abt. 1768 Culpeper VA, who is supposed to be the son of a John Bruce b. > abt. 1740, in Scotland. This James had a son James b. 1 Jun 1790, also in > VA. Doesn't quite jive with the information given below, but who knows? > My information could be wrong, or yours could. Or my John might be a son > of John Bruce & Sarah Cole mentioned below. Or...who knows? Anyone else > have more info on this family? > > *CERIDWEN* > > On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Lou Miles wrote: > > > I have a Thomas BRUCE who, I believe had a son John, christened 7 Sep 1690 > > in Fordyce, Par., Banff, Scotland. > > John m. Sarah COLE. John had a son I believe to be James BRUCE who married > > a Margaret McMahon 10 June > > 1744 in Spotsylvania, Frederick, VA. I believe he died in Nelson Co., KY > > in 1795. > > > > I think James had a son James BRUCE b. 15 November, 1790 in Coxes Creek, > > Nelson, KY. M. Mary "Polly" RUNYAN > > 30 Oct 1811 in Harrison, IN. Died 26 Feb 1840 Harrison, IN. > > >

I would love to see some more concrete information on this line; I wonder if there is a connection with my family. I have a James Bruce, b. abt. 1768 Culpeper VA, who is supposed to be the son of a John Bruce b. abt. 1740, in Scotland. This James had a son James b. 1 Jun 1790, also in VA. Doesn't quite jive with the information given below, but who knows? My information could be wrong, or yours could. Or my John might be a son of John Bruce & Sarah Cole mentioned below. Or...who knows? Anyone else have more info on this family? *CERIDWEN* On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Lou Miles wrote: > I have a Thomas BRUCE who, I believe had a son John, christened 7 Sep 1690 > in Fordyce, Par., Banff, Scotland. > John m. Sarah COLE. John had a son I believe to be James BRUCE who married > a Margaret McMahon 10 June > 1744 in Spotsylvania, Frederick, VA. I believe he died in Nelson Co., KY > in 1795. > > I think James had a son James BRUCE b. 15 November, 1790 in Coxes Creek, > Nelson, KY. M. Mary "Polly" RUNYAN > 30 Oct 1811 in Harrison, IN. Died 26 Feb 1840 Harrison, IN. >

Do you have a James BRUCE in Greene Co GA.1830's.??? My Thomas D CHAPMAN, b 1829, was in the war with James BRUCE & they drew land together in Greene Co GA. In 1848 Thomas m Elizabeth Catherine MENTON BRUCE, age 21, widow with son, Thomas is 17. Elizabeth or her father or both were from Ireland??? She was widow of Azeil BRUCE She had a dower in AL of 87 1/2 ac which was given to her son Wm in 1849. In July 1869 Thomas sells Wm L BRUCE 100 ac in Greene Co GA . Sept 1869 Nancy BRUCE & others of Clay Co AL sold land, 190 ac to Thomas Glad to share information on down. This has been a puzzle for several years. The families were intertwined but can't figure out just how?? Thank you, Anna Lee -----Original Message----- From: Lou Miles <lmiles@aros.net> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Patrick Bruce >I have a Thomas BRUCE who, I believe had a son John, christened 7 Sep 1690 >in Fordyce, Par., Banff, Scotland. >John m. Sarah COLE. John had a son I believe to be James BRUCE who married >a Margaret McMahon 10 June >1744 in Spotsylvania, Frederick, VA. I believe he died in Nelson Co., KY >in 1795. > >I think James had a son James BRUCE b. 15 November, 1790 in Coxes Creek, >Nelson, KY. M. Mary "Polly" RUNYAN >30 Oct 1811 in Harrison, IN. Died 26 Feb 1840 Harrison, IN. > >I would like to verify and extend this line with documentation. >Happy to share info. >Thanks, >Lou Miles > >At 05:16 PM 6/25/99 -0400, Dean Geiss wrote: >>Patrick Bruce was born in possibly Sterlinghaus, Scotland; James in >>Longside, Aberdeen Parish, Scotland. Thomas was christened in Fordyce >>Parish, Aberdeen, Scotland; and John was born in Aberdeen, Scotland. >> >>Carol > > >

I have a Thomas BRUCE who, I believe had a son John, christened 7 Sep 1690 in Fordyce, Par., Banff, Scotland. John m. Sarah COLE. John had a son I believe to be James BRUCE who married a Margaret McMahon 10 June 1744 in Spotsylvania, Frederick, VA. I believe he died in Nelson Co., KY in 1795. I think James had a son James BRUCE b. 15 November, 1790 in Coxes Creek, Nelson, KY. M. Mary "Polly" RUNYAN 30 Oct 1811 in Harrison, IN. Died 26 Feb 1840 Harrison, IN. I would like to verify and extend this line with documentation. Happy to share info. Thanks, Lou Miles At 05:16 PM 6/25/99 -0400, Dean Geiss wrote: >Patrick Bruce was born in possibly Sterlinghaus, Scotland; James in >Longside, Aberdeen Parish, Scotland. Thomas was christened in Fordyce >Parish, Aberdeen, Scotland; and John was born in Aberdeen, Scotland. > >Carol

I'm looking for information about Annie BRUCE who was born in Ireland in 1844 to John BRUCE and Margaret THOMPSON. She had 11 siblings, one of which was my great grandmother. Annie married ______Bennett and died in Leith, Scotland, 22 February, 1926. That's the extent of my information on her. Any help would be appreciated! Susie D.

Here are my BRUCE lines: Can anyone help me trace my Bruce line forward: Benjamin B. (Britton) Bruce Sr D 1822 Place: Catahoula Parish, LA Wife unknown. Children: John H. Bruce b 180l d 1834 Place of death: Catahoula Parish, LA m Nancy Kiper 1822 Benjamin Britton Bruce Jr. b 1790/1800 d 1838 place: LA m Elizabeth M. Kiper Rebecca Britton Bruce b 21 Nov 1806 d 23 Aug 1833 m Frederick Kiper 12 Apr 1825 Martha V. Bruce b 1813/14 d 1830 m Jonathan J. Brown in 1820 Jonathan d 1842 Mary Elizabeth Bruce b 1802 d 1833 lst m William Brown 25 Oct 1828 2nd m Charles Mathews Richard Hewson Bruce b 1810/11 d 1838 Possibly never married. All these Bruce's settled in and around Cicily Island, Catahoula Parish, LA. Benjamin Sr showed up in 1814/16. Benjamin Sr. is my 4 great grandfather. Have checked most wills, succession, etc in Catahoula Parish, LA but have not been able to determine where Benjamin migrated from. Any help or guidance will be appreciated. Will share: Thanks: Bob Moore 0 =20

This is mine, too! Sherry Niehaus >From: BRUCE-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com >To: BRUCE-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: BRUCE-D Digest V99 #61 >Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:18:13 -0700 (PDT) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From BRUCE-D-request@rootsweb.com Mon Jun 28 00:18:41 1999 >Received: from [204.212.38.30] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id >MHotMailB9406CC501E0D1017080CCD4261E0ACC0; Mon Jun 28 00:18:41 1999 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id >AAA23006;Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:18:13 -0700 (PDT) >Message-Id: <199906280718.AAA23006@bl-14.rootsweb.com> >X-Loop: BRUCE-D@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <BRUCE-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume99/61 >Precedence: list >End of BRUCE-D Digest V99 Issue #61 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

I'm also interested in this information. This is possibly my line. Judy On 25 Jun 99, at 16:39, Dean Geiss wrote: > I came across Patrick Bruce on the Bruce Family Genealogy Forum. He was > born 1595-1600 and is listed as the father of James Bruce, b. 1634. James > was the father of Thomas born 6/11/1664, and Thomas was the father of John > Bruce, born September 7, 1690. Has anyone come across this information, or > any documentation of the same? I would be interested in hearing from you. > > Carol Geiss > > ______________________________

What ever happened to Don? Has anyone heard any feedback about his wonderful genealogy trip to Scotland? I haven't seen any updates from him here on the list. Has anyone else had any communications from him??? Homer Bruce

Patrick Bruce was born in possibly Sterlinghaus, Scotland; James in Longside, Aberdeen Parish, Scotland. Thomas was christened in Fordyce Parish, Aberdeen, Scotland; and John was born in Aberdeen, Scotland. Carol