I have the family Bible of William Pickett BRUCE and his wife Orra B. NORVELL. William Pickett BRUCE was born 7 Dec 1832 in Fleming Co KY. and was the son of George Stubblefield BRUCE and Sabina METCALF. Orra B. Norvell was born 7 July 1840 in Carlisle, KY an was the daughter of William and Emily G. NORVELL. There is a newspaper article with the Bible about a Miss Mamie GORDON, daughter of Thomas GORDON. There is no relationship established in the Bible so perhaps the "G" is for GORDON??? This family, along with other family members went to Cincinnati, and Minneapolis. If anyone is interested, I shall be happy to post to the Bible to the list or provide a copy to anyone interested if they will email me at Slowm@aol.com. Bea Hudson Hampton, VA Slowm@aol.com

I am writing a book and one Chapter will be on BRUCE. I copy below the sources I think are best. The biggest differences in these sources has to do with William Bruce who m. Christina. 3 sources have him the "brother" of Robert who m. Isobel (daug. of Wm. The Lion) and the Magna Carta Book has him the "son" of that Robert. Please reply with your judgement on this complete chart. Robert Bruce (magna Carta Book) and Robert Bruce by Scott, and Funk & Wagnall Encyclopedia (1996) were the combination of sources used for comparison of early generations in my book. A number below denotes descending generations. Ten generations are noted under the title THIS BOOK (by Jean Smallwood). Read columns downward. THIS BOOK Robert Bruce Robert Bruce Encylopedia (Magna Carta Book) by Scott 1 Robert de Brusse 1 Robert de Brusse 1 grandfather m. de Brittnay m. de Brittnay HAD SON 2 Robert I 2 Robert m. St. Clair 2 Son unnamed 1 Robert d.1094-to England to Eng.with d.1094 to Eng Wm. the Conqueror Wm. the Conqueror Wm/Conquer HAD SON 3 Adam m. Ramsay 3 Adam m.Ramsay 3 Adam HAD SON 4 Robert II-d. 1141 4 Robert -d. 1141 m. 4 Robert d. 1141 2 Robert II m. Pagnel (Paynell) Pagnel(Paynell) HAD SONS 5 Adam Bruce d.1172 5 Adam Bruce &Robert III 5 Robert m. Euphemia &Robert-d. 1196 3 Robert III d. 1196 Robert HAD SONS HAD SONS HAD SONS 6 Robert IV m. Isobel 6 Robert m. Isobel 6 Robert Bruce 4Robert IV d/o Wm. The Lion AND AND AND William Bruce 7William William Bruce William Bruce m. Christina-had daug. m.Christiana 7 Lady Dame Bruce AND Robert V-d. 1245 8Robert d 1245 7Robert-d. 1245 5 Robert V m.Isobel m. Isobel HAD SON 8 Robert VI 9 Robert 1210-1295 8 Robert d. 1295 6Robert VI "Competitor" m.De Clare m. De Clare HAD SON 9 Robert VII b.1243 10 Robert 9 Robert 7Robert VII m. Carrick m. Carrick m. Carrick HAD SON 10 King Robert 11 King Robert 10King Robert 8King Robert of Scotland Note-some sources (Familytreemaker-WFT-internet) say Robert Bruce (b.1030) m. Emma de Bretagne not St.Clair (2nd.gen.above)and had son Robert, d. 1141 (4th gen. above). Many of these list Lady Bruce. Some sources skip Adam Bruce (3rd. gen.)who m. Emma Ramsay,as does the Encyclopedia above. Latter Day Saints files list Robert m. Brittnay (1st gen) and record that he had son Adam. who m. Ramsay. For Robert Bruce(Signers of Magna Carta,1215)-see internet Clan Bruce www.tartans.com/clans/bruce.html See Source Chart for Lady Dame Beckwith Bruce. In the 3 sources above, only selected children are listed. Some early genealogies list only sons. Daughters were not always listed. Many later genealogies show Lady Dame Beckwith Bruce, the connection for this book. Thank you, Jean Smallwood (jeansm@aol.com)

Hi I am looking for information on John Bruce (b. c. 1797 in Fermanagh, Armagh, Ireland), m. 1822 to Mary Johnston (b. c. 1803 in Fermanagh, Armagh, Ireland). They set sail for Canada on June 12, 1840, settling in Cavan, Cartwright Twp.., Durham Cty.., Ontario. They had at least one child, Jane, b. Oct. 14, 1838 who married William Brown before moving to Morris Twp.. in Huron County. Ron

I guess I need to add a PS to my post on William Bruce, Jr. I know a bit about him but am really looking for Sr. since all I know is where he was born in England. Sorry for the confusion. Linda Bruce Caron

Still looking for William Bruce, Jr. Born 9/25/1836, St. Agnes, Paxworth, Cambridgeshire, England Died 4/7/1915, Hunter, Kansas Served in Michigan Infantry Married Elizabeth, Had 4 children, Frank Howard (my grandfather), Charley W., Richard and Fred. She divorced William and moved to New Boston, Illinois, taking the 2 younger children with her and remarried Charley Hale. Second married Emily Page (or Pope), b. 1862 d. 12/27/1940 and had 4 girls, Laura Grace, b. 1883, Maud, Florence b. 1/20/1887 and Etta, b. 12/5/1891. Sure would appreciate anything anyone might have. His father, William Bruce, Sr. was born in the same place but I have nothing else on him. Linda Bruce Caron scotlass@nwlink.com www.nwlink.com/~scotlass

Would like to locate the parents of Ann BRUCE. It is possible that she married Elias Boyer in Alexandria VA. One record shows an Ann BRUCE marrying Elias BOYER. Does anyone have any information on this Ann BRUCE? 1. ANN1 BRUCE was born Abt. 1782 in Virginia, and died in Georgia, probably Hancock Co.GA. She married ELIAS BOYER Abt. 1800 in PA or VA, son of RICHARD BOYER. He was born 1759 in Virginia, and died 1833 in Hancock County, GA. Children of ANN BRUCE and ELIAS BOYER are: 2. i. WILLIAM MIRABEAU2 BOYER, b. November 08, 1804, Virginia; d. February 1886, Hancock County, GA. 3. ii. JAMES B. BOYER, b. 1806, Virginia; d. Bef. 1870. 4. iii. JOHN BOYER, b. 1809, Georgia; d. Bef. 1881, Hancock Co. GA. 5. iv. GEORGE BOYER, b. 1811, Georgia; d. May 15, 1860, Hancock Co. GA. 6. v. ANN BOYER, b. 1823; d. Hancock County, GA.

Are there any researchers out there who have traced their BRUCE family anywhere in or near the Gainesville, Cooke County, TX area? Would love to hear from you. Teresa

Sending this message again for those who may want to read the research material concerning another possible (more likely than the Viking/Norman origin) origin of the Royal Bruce line and other great family names of Scotland. The below books may be out of print, so try an inter-library loan as I did and copy them. Good luck. - "Origins of Heraldry" (Beryl Platts; Procter Press, London; 1980) - "Scottish Hazard", vol.1 (Beryl Platts; Procter Press, London; 1985) - "Scottish Hazard", vol.2 (Beryl Platts; Procter Press, London; 1990) Read with an open mind to the fact that the Viking/Norman origins is bogus history and that the Flemish origin is more likely. Do not write me to flame or ask questions. Get the books and form your own opinion. Larry L.S. Bruce

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I am seraching the Potts surname - My George Potts born abt. 1865 m abt. 1895 to Florence Bruce b. abt. 1873 or 1880 - depending on sources. Any information that can help would be appreciated. It is believed her parents may have been John & Lavicia Bruce. Thanks Just Diggin'

Does anyone have more information on this BRUCE family?? 1. WILLIAM2 BRUCE (JOHN1) was born 19 August 1821 in Selkirk, Selkirkshire, Scotland, and died 27 November 1890 in Troy Mills, Linn, IA. He married HELEN SCOTT 10 June 1845 in Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland, daughter of ROBERT SCOTT and ELIZABETH BURNS. She was born 12 September 1823 in Ancrum, Roxburghshire, Scotland, and died 23 September 1899 in Troy Mills, Linn, IA. Children of WILLIAM BRUCE and HELEN SCOTT are: 2. i. ELIZA J.3 BRUCE, b. 24 August 1848, Aberdeen, Scotland; d. 02 May 1929, Coggon, Buchanan, IA. 3. ii. ANDREW BRUCE, b. 11 July 1850, New York City, Borough, NY; d. 05 November 1930, Mollala, Clackamas, OR. iii. JANNET BRUCE, b. 07 April 1855, Elgin, Kane, IL; d. 13 March 1863, IA. 4. iv. MARGARET BRUCE, b. 07 July 1858, Hazel Green Twp., Delaware, IA; d. 10 August 1893, Henryville, Lawrence, TN. v. ROBERT BRUCE, b. 17 March 1860, Manhalani Mills, Linn, IA; d. 17 May 1860, Post Office Valley Farm, Linn, IA. 5. vi. WILLIAM JAMES BRUCE, b. 09 November 1861, Troy Mills, Linn, IA; d. 28 January 1924, Walla, Walla, Walla Walla, WA. vii. GEORGE SCOTT BRUCE, b. 18 August 1864, Troy Mills, Linn, IA; d. 24 December 1887, Newton Twp., Buchanan, IA. BarB barbbuck@pacbell.net

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This is an other line of pedigree of de Brus that were the ancient proprietors of "DANBY" Robert de Brus came into England with the Conqueror and had by conquest the Lordships of Skelton, Marske, Uplyum, Brotton, Danby, Leventon, Yarm & c. (ob. 1141) = Agnes, Daughter of Fulke Paynell, with whom he had the Manor of Carleton, in Balme. Adam de Brus, Lord of Skelton, Damby, &c. (ob.1167) = Ivetta, Daughter of William de Arches, Widow of R. de Flamville Adam de Brus, the second (ob.1180)= ????? Peter de Brus, the first of that name. = Agnes, Daughter of Stephen, Earl of Albemarle, widow of W de Romara, Earl of Lincoln. Isabella de Brus = Sir Henry de Percy, from whom descended the Percies, Earls of Northumberland. Peter de Brus, the Second (ob.1240) = Helewife, Daughter of Gilbert de Lancaster Baron of Kendal. Peter de Brus, the Third = Hillaria, Daughter of Lord Malo-lacu, or Mauley Peter de Brus, the Fourth died unmarried 1271, leaving his sisters his Heirs (1) Agnes = Walter de Fauconberge, had Skelton, Marske, & c. (2) Lucy = Marmaduke de Thweng, had Danby, Brotton and Yarm (3) Margaret = Robert de Roffe Lord of Werke, had Kendal, &c. (4) Ladrina = Sir John de Bella-aqua or Bellew, had Carleton in Balme,&c. This was the last of this line of Brus (Bruce) as it had died out with Peter de Brus in the year 1271 and as his sisters had married into different lines

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Sorry, I don't but you can see the pictures on ebay at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=158505023 ----- Original Message ----- From: BarB <barbbuck@pacbell.net> To: <nona@rof.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: Dollie Bruce > > Nona, > > Do you have more info on "Dollie" such as age, parents, area , etc..? > > BarB > barbbuck@pacbell.net > >

Joyce, Is your William BRUCE any relation to the James BRUCE who m.1786 Lucretia "Lucy" GAINES in Culpeper County, VA? W/r, Bruce Gustin

Can anyone identify Dollie Bruce? One photo has the name "Dollie Bruce" written in pencil on the back and the other has "Sister Dollie Bruce" written on the back. I think two different people are depicted so perhaps one was named Dollie Bruce and the other was her sister. I could find no additional information, no location or dates.

Hello Scotlass We seem to have perfect agreement back to the Robert who married William the Lions daughter. Before that we diverge. Will you give me a source I can read for the early information? I have repeated the genealogy I found in case you missed it the first time round. My interest is in my grandson's line. He can go back to this point with an unbroken line via his father according to several sources. Other sources show a break around 1700. Hence my interest. John Shearer -----Original Message----- From: Scotlass <scotlass@nwlink.com> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 02 September 1999 04:41 Subject: Bruce Geneology >In keeping with the discussion on Robert The Bruce, his geneology runs as such, which you might find interesting: > >Brusse, Earl of Caithness and Sunderland, married Ostrida of Gothland. They had > >Rognvald (d. 1046) was the general in the Army of King Olaf in Norway. He and his second wife, Felicia of Normandy had > >a son, Brusi, who was called Robert de Brusse. He married Emma of Brittany around 1020 and they had > >Robert de Brusse, II. He came with William the Conqueror from Normandy in 1066. Married Agnes St. Clair. They had > >Adam de Bruse who went to England in 1050 as attendant to Queen Emma, daughter of Richard I. He married Emma Ramsay. They had > >Robert de Brusse, III, who was born in 1078. He married Agnes Bruce (Agnes Paynell) of Annandale, a distant cousin. They had > >Robert Bruce of Annandale who married Euphemia. They had > >Robert Bruce II, Lord of Ananndale. He married Isabel of Scotland, daughter of William the Lion. They had > >William Bruce, 3rd Baron of Annandale. He married Christina. They had > >Robert Bruce, 4th Baron of Annandale. He married Isobel of Huntingdon. They had > >Sir Robert Bruce, Lord of Annandale (1210). He married Isabella de Clare and they had > >Sir Robert Bruce, Lord of Annandale. He married (first) Marjor Carrick, Countess of Carrick. They had > >Robert the Bruce, Earl of Carrick, Lord Brus, King of Scotland. > > > > > >==== BRUCE Mailing List ==== > The Internet Mailing List for BRUCE researchers > > To unsubscribe send an e-mail to bruce-l-request@rootsweb.com > with 'UNSUBSCRIBE' as the only text in the message > > If you get the digest version send an e-mail to bruce-d-request@rootsweb.com > with 'UNSUBSCRIBE' as the only text in the message. > > >

I am looking for any descendant of Charles Bruce, born about 1854 in Stewart County, GA. He may have married (this information has not been verified) Becky Shackleford on Dec. 31, 1882 in Franklin County, GA and had two children whose initials are C. B. and W. T. Charles is the son of John Wesley Bruce. Thanks. Frances Bruce

I would like to contant descendants of Sam A. Bruce, son of John Wesley Bruce, born July 6, 1858 in Stewart County, GA. Is anybody out there? Frances Bruce