I'm looking for any connection to Amour Bruce, Sr., born 1777 in Scotland, died July 9, 1857, in Wilmington, Dearborn County, Indiana. He married Catherine Flake about 1800. Barbara

Hi Gang We have added a couple of new data bases to The American Family Generations which can be found at http://www.geocities.com/heartland/prairie/5121 Included are: Census index for surname lykins for states of ky, va, pa, in, wv INDIANA Census of 1900 Soundex for L252 the surname Lykins andvariations (complete listing of names) ILLINOIS Census of 1910Soundex for L252 surname Lykins and variations (complete listing of names) You can also follow the prompt to my family tree page which lists almost 200 different surnames (directly related, no collaterals) and some 10,000 entries. Surnames like VanValkenburg, Sluder, Sheets, Rose, Riley, Quackenbush, Bruce, Kent, McClain, Montgomery, Hunter, Barnes and many more...in areas such as Pike Co. IL, Madison Co. KY, Champaign Co. IL, Wayne Co. IN, Delaware Co. IN, Harrison Co. OH, and many many other areas Hope you can drop by and take a look. Tom Non magni pendis quia contigit. "One does not value things easily attained!"

Hi All, I have put a Database up at Rootsweb. the address is: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kb5eko I would appreciate any information that I can add to the database and any corrections that can be made. I am finding out that a lot of things can be done with the records that are in the worldconnect gedcoms, so if anyone can add any source data, links, E-Mail addresses, etc. I will gladly put them in. I'm slowly working on creating some links from there to some of the documents and pictures that I have scanned and will be putting on the net. Happy Hunting and God Bless Jerry E. Davis Jr.

>From Mary Ann St. Louis I have just changed my internet carrier from IBM to A T & T 's cable service. My new internet address is cabin2@home.com. Please change it in your address book. Thank you. Mary Ann St. Louis

http://www.sos.state.il.us/depts/archives/marriage.html

Yes, I think I do........what do you need? Sally (Farley/Bruce desc.)

--part1_0.3981d170.2548da9a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Emma Adkins Vealey --part1_0.3981d170.2548da9a_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: VEVEALEY@aol.com From: VEVEALEY@aol.com Full-name: VEVEALEY Message-ID: <0.91f4f8fa.2548da04@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:43:16 EDT Subject: Bruce Family To: BRUCE-L@rootswen.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 40 Does any one have information on the BRUCE"S that married the FARLEY"S Emma Adkins Vealey --part1_0.3981d170.2548da9a_boundary--

I am looking for ancestors, cousins, kin, etc. My g grandfather was Eldridge Edward BRUCE b April 17, 1888, d July 16, 1969 in southside, Batesville, AR, married April 21, 1913 in Oil Trough, AR, to Stella Levina NICHOLS, b Feb 2, 1892 in TX, d May 5, 1967 in Newport AR. My gg father and father to Eldridge above was Millard Fillmore BRUCE, born June 28, 1857, died August 30, 1932 in Independence County, AR. He married Nancy Matilda SOUTHARD, b April 2?, 1856 in TN, d July 16, 1923. My grandmother, daughter of Eldridge, was Thelma Christine BRUCE, b March 13, 1914 in Oil Trough, AR, D Sept 17, 1997 in Batesville, AR, married to Leslie Clifford JONES of McHue, AR in May 18, 1934. If any of this is familiar to your searches, let me know! I'm always looking for relatives. Raymond Mays rcmays@compuserve.com

--WebTV-Mail-24782-4388 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I have Bruce who came from Scotland around 1860, then went to Nova-Scotia; onto Illinois, then to PA. Anyone with these states? Barb --WebTV-Mail-24782-4388 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.97) by storefull-136.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <BRUCE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id IAA24891 for <knock3xs@webtv.net>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25222; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000101bf13fc$0940ef00$607136d1@compaq> From: "FRANK & TERESA COVEY" <fcovey@c2i2.com> Old-To: <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: TX>TN BRUCE kin Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:19:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <P7z5yC.A.FJG.j2fA4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/597 X-Loop: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BRUCE-L-request@rootsweb.com Sure would like to connect with a cousin. I'm looking for anyone with ties to a BRUCE family who were in Cooke County, TX just before 1900. I have ties with a Seburn Franklin Bruce, but would like to find out more. I know his parents were Thomas Seburn Bruce, born in 1810 in TN, and his mother was Jenna/Jimma. I have info on Seburn's descendants, but would like more on his siblings. This would be my brick wall. Is there anyone out there who might have some info? Help PLEASE! Teresa (Bruce) Covey ==== BRUCE Mailing List ==== Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative? http://www.rootsweb.com/ --WebTV-Mail-24782-4388--

Sure would like to connect with a cousin. I'm looking for anyone with ties to a BRUCE family who were in Cooke County, TX just before 1900. I have ties with a Seburn Franklin Bruce, but would like to find out more. I know his parents were Thomas Seburn Bruce, born in 1810 in TN, and his mother was Jenna/Jimma. I have info on Seburn's descendants, but would like more on his siblings. This would be my brick wall. Is there anyone out there who might have some info? Help PLEASE! Teresa (Bruce) Covey

Your E-Mail was received in Deer Park, Harris County, TX.

Regarding the recent posting of the Daddezio cemetery list, a much better list is the USGenWeb Tombstone Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/ If you look at the D'Addezio web site, they have just copied information from USGenWeb sites, as if it was their own. All the links to pages are USGenWeb county sites. Gary Martens GRDB List Owner - AHSGR Database mailing list GER-Volga Co-list Owner - German Russian Volga mailing list AHSGR Village Coordinator for Schilling - Schilling Village Home Page - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gmartens/Schilling/ NEGenWeb County Coordinator for Lincoln, Seward and Polk Counties

I got this site from another list I belong to. I've been there and seems like a good site. Might help someone else http://www.daddezio.com/cemetery/junction/index.html

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I recently sent thru a chart on comparison sources for Robert the Bruce. Sorry it did not line up as I sent it...email problem I guess...I will be glad to clarify the chart to anyone who is interested.

I cannot claim descendency from Robert de Brus, but I can claim the following ancestry. My BRUCE lineage has been traced to Samuel Bruce (b. 1816 in PA). I believe that Samuel had a brother Stephen, as evidence of their residence is found in Indiana from the 1840's on. My question is: Which part of Pennsylvania did Samuel and Stephen Bruce live in and how did they end up in Indiana? My Gr-Gr-Grandfather, Stephen Bruce, stowed away in a camp wagon when the Union Army was camped near their home. They didn't discover him until the next day and many miles down the road. Since it wasn't feasible to have someone escort him home, and he really wanted to join them, they signed him up and made him their bugle boy. Stephen was born in Indiana and appears to have moved between Indiana and Missouri a couple of times. I've lost him after the 1860 census. My Great-Grandfather is Bert Monroe Bruce. He was a carpenter and while born in Indiana was raised in Missouri. Once married, he and Lydia moved to Chehalis, Washington then after a few years they took a boat ride down to Los Angeles, CALIF. From there, they next moved back to Missouri, by way of Texas and Oklahoma. I have BRUCE cousins in Washington, Oregon, California, Texas and Oklahoma. My Grandmother was Mabel Pauline BRUCE and she married Raymond Earl RAMSEY. Bruce's and Ramsey's together again. No wonder I find the history of the Bruce/Ramsay lineages interesting! Hope you find a connection or can point me in the right direction. Rebecca Ramsey Rramsey113@aol.com Descendants of Samuel BRUCE - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - 1-Samuel BRUCE (1816-) + Elizabeth MAISH (1818-) 2-Stephen BRUCE (Feb 28 1843-Feb 26 1922) + Anna "Jane" TRIBBITT 3-William BRUCE (1868-) 3-Charles BRUCE (1873-Jan 29 1884) 3-Bert Monroe BRUCE (Apr 1 1873-Jul 8 1937) + Lydia Ann SHUEY (Apr 8 1875-Mar 5 1953) 4-Faye Lenore BRUCE + James Norel BALES 5-Paul Vern BALES + Doris MOESLINE 6-Robert BALES 6-Patrick BALES 6-Michael BALES 5-Blendean Ruth BALES + Leo HIGSON 6-Patricia HIGSON 6-Leo Patrick HIGSON 6-Rhonda HIGSON 5-Mary Katherine BALES + Robert Edwin ASHBAUGH 6-Danny Edwin ASHBAUGH 6-Aaron ASHBAUGH 5-James Robert BALES + Georgia Ann EDWARDS 6-Terry Dean BALES 6-Larry BALES 6-Jerry BALES 6-Garry BALES 6-Berry BALES 6-Kerry BALES 5-David Charles BALES + Delores BARRENSAT 6-Scott Blain BALES 6-Brian BALES 4-Robert "Russell" BRUCE (Nov 10 1904-Jun 4 1978) + Gladys COLEMAN 5-Mack BRUCE (d. bef 1996) 4-Mabel Pauline BRUCE (Sep 21 1905-Sep 13 1987) sp: Raymond Earl RAMSEY (Aug 25 1907-Apr 4 1993) 5-Avelene Mabel RAMSEY sp: Zane GREY sp: Ross Dale ANDREWS 6-Kenny Ross ANDREWS 6-Jerry Lawrence ANDREWS 5-Wanda Jean RAMSEY + Jake Hubert SMITH 6-Stephen Ray SMITH 6-Rhonda Lynn SMITH 6-Paul Wayne SMITH 5-Donald Ray "Don" RAMSEY + Virginia Lee SPARKMAN 6-Rebecca Ann "Becky" RAMSEY 6-Deborah Jean RAMSEY 6-Stephen Mark RAMSEY 6-David Ray RAMSEY 5-Jimmie Vance RAMSEY + Mary Alice JOYNER 6-Theresa Jean RAMSEY 6-Cary Vance RAMSEY 5-Edith Voncille RAMSEY + Jerry Wayne POOLE 6-Keven Wayne POOLE 6-Keith Allen POOLE 6-Kellie Renee POOLE 5-Shirley Ann RAMSEY sp: Frank James MITCHELL 6-Shelly Lynn MITCHELL sp: Bill PATTON 6-Scott Allen PATTON 4-Vance Enos "Bill" BRUCE + Faye BEAMER 5-Enos "Eugene" BRUCE + Carole Jane STACY 6-Rhoda Bell BRUCE 6-Richard Eugene BRUCE 6-Nancie Carole BRUCE 6-Tommy Howard BRUCE 5-Faye "Maxine" BRUCE + John R. ELLIOTT 6-Robert Bruce ELLIOTT 6-Carole Ann ELLIOTT 6-Janette ELLIOTT 5-Marie BRUCE (Oct 15 1943-Dec 27 1945) 5-Sharon May BRUCE + Jerry WEBB 6-Sherry Dawn WEBB 6-Gary Jeffery WEBB 5-Paul Lee BRUCE + Ruth Lanell EVANS 6-Cherye Renee` BRUCE 6-Rachel BRUCE 6-Christopher BRUCE 5-Philip Ray BRUCE + Evelyn Kay COLSTON 6-Michael BRUCE 6-Kimberly BRUCE 5-Robert David BRUCE (Oct 27 1953-Oct 11 1973) 4-Myrtle Esther BRUCE sp: John Timothy DAVISSON 5-Virginia Mary Autenchia DAVISSON 5-Billy Jean DAVISSON + Betty Katharine DOBBS 6-Cathy Jean DAVISSON 6-Linda Kay DAVISSON 6-Steven Lee DAVISSON 6-Michael Ray DAVISSON 6-Bobby Wayne DAVISSON 6-Anna Marie DAVISSON 6-Tina Renee` DAVISSON 5-Johnny Neil DAVISSON + Twyla Dale TROLINDER 6-John Timothy DAVISSON 6-LuEllen Lynn DAVISSON 6-Erin Beth DAVISSON 5-Barbara Sue DAVISSON + Paul Little SHAMLIAN 6-Paul Little SHAMLIAN Jr. 6-Anthony Ray SHAMLIAN 6-Frank Bruce SHAMLIAN 6-Richard Nahabed SHAMLIAN 5-Bert "Wayne" DAVISSON sp: JoAnn FERGUSON sp: Doris Lee TUCKER 6-Tammy Lee DAVISSON 6-Tina Marie DAVISSON 6-Bert Wayne DAVISSON 6-Robert Lee DAVISSON 4-Anthony Wayne BRUCE (1914-1914) 3-Sorie BRUCE (1875-) 3-Mary BRUCE (1878-) 3-Frank BRUCE (1879-) + Bessie BENEFIELD 4-Harvey Everet BRUCE (Oct 27 1903-) 4-Charlie E. BRUCE (Jan 14 1906-) 4-Jenny Arvella BRUCE (Jul 6 1914-) 4-Martin Earl BRUCE (Jun 3 1919-) 3-Harry Kenneth BRUCE (Dec 8 1888-1980) + Ruth Anna ISAACS 4-Andrew S. BRUCE (Jul 1 1910-Jul 11 1910) 4-Vera Violet BRUCE (Jun 30 1913-) Prepared by: rebecca ramsey rramsey113@aol.com

Looking for anyone who has done research concerning Patrick Bruce, christened: 13 Apr 1581, Aberdeen, Saint Nicholas, Scotland. His father may have been Alexander and mother, Isbell Cowe. Please contact me is you have any knowledge concerning this Patrick, etc. Thanks. Larry L.S. Bruce labruce@indiana.edu

Good Morning Jean, This note updates, integrates and comments on the last two. >I am not an expert. I began researching BRUCE a few months ago because my >grandson appears to be a descendant of that family, courtesy of his other >grandparents. The work done to date has been preliminary. I went to the >library of the Society of Genealogists in London an found a family tree of >the Earls of Elgin which seemed to be well researched and I extracted the >relevant information. I then compared this with the most official looking >tomes in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow and I found complete agreement >where they covered the same ground. The most authoritative looking text >is"The Dictionary of National Biography of Scotland - Oxford University >Press, 1917." > >My primary search was for the link to my grandsons tree and this came with a >Sir Robert Bruce who was the son of King Robert's uncle but is in fact >believed to have been the Robert's illegitimate son. Since the illegitimate >sons of kings were very respectable 700 years ago I need to research this >story but it does not affect the lineage. > >Moving back through time, King Robert's father Robert Bruce, Lord Annandale >married The Countess of >Carrick and their son Robert became Earl of Carrick, and King of Scotland. >This gentleman was a crusader who lived abroad and was a contemporary of >Edward I of England. I wonder if he was a Templar? There are rumours that >the Templars helped his son become King of Scotland. > >King Robert's grandfather Robert Bruce, Lord Annandale (1210-1295) was a >competitor for the Scottish >throne when Alexander III was killed. He married Isobel de Clare, daughter >of Gilbert Earl of Gloucester. I have two other sons, Barnard Bruce and Sir >John Bruce the uncle we have already discussed. He lived through a period of >weak or disinterested English kings and some reasonably good Scottish kings. > >King Robert's great grandfather Robert Bruce, Lord Annandale, married a >daughter of the Earl of >Huntingdon, the grandson of a Scottish king. Her name may have been Isobel, >I will check my notes. I found no record of a Lady Beckwith Bruce or a Dame >Beckwith Bruce but I was not looking for daughters. > >King Robert's gg grandfather was William Bruce, Lord of Annandale, who was >probably named for his grandsire William the Lion, King of Scotland. He may >have married a Christina I will check my notes. > >King Robert's ggg grandfather was Robert de Bruce, Lord of Annandale, >married Isobel the daughter of William the Lion. > >">For Robert Bruce(Signers of Magna Carta,1215)-see Internet Clan Bruce >>www.tartans.com/clans/bruce.html " I have a fault on my connection and >cannot hit URL'S at the moment. I will get this cleared up next week. . > >King Robert's gggg grandfather was a younger son, Robert de Brus (? - 1196) >who married the heiress (Euphemia??) of the Lord of Annandale, and brought >the Bruce name to Scotland.. His elder brother was Adam de Brus (? - .1172) >who inherited the Barony of Skelton in Yorkshire. According to another internet correspondent Adam married Ivetta, daughter of William de Arches, Widow of R. de Flamville (Their descendants are discussed in a postscript to this email. > >A Bruce is believed to have come to Scotland with David I when he returned >from the Anglo-Norman Court of Henry I. This could have been the Robert >above but he must have lived to a very great age if he died in 1192. I >wonder if his father , discussed bellow came, and was partly rewarded by an >eligible marriage for his younger son. > >King Robert's ggggg grandfather was Robert de Brus (? - 1141). I have seen >references to his marrying a daughter of Pagnel (Paynell) on the Internet >but not elsewhere as yet. This reference was as follows: "Robert de Brus came into England with the Conqueror and had by conquest the Lordships of Skelton, Marske, Uplyum, Brotton, Danby, Leventon, Yarm and in 1141 he married Agnes, the daughter of Fulke Paynell and gained the manors of Carleton and Balme. The author of this note has someone born before 1046 marrying in 1141 so he has missed out one or two generations and his claim that the same hero took these lands by conquest is also suspect. William did operate a scorched earth policy in Yorkshire and substantially culled the descendants of his Viking cousins threfore, he probably gave the manors to de Brus or arranged for him to marry an available heiress. All heiresses were in the kings gift. I know Yarm it is a beautiful village a short drive from Stockton and Darlington. >Before this matters are a little vague. > >I am not clear on Adam (?), Robert's gggggg grandfather, who married a >Ramsay. Again I think someone mentioned this on the internet but could not >provide a source. You said "Some sources skip Adam Bruce (3rd. gen.)who >married Emma Ramsay ". Latter Day Saints ancestral files accept individual >interpretations which do not have to be verified. However, if the dates >above are correct we do need someone in this space and it makes sense that >he had a grandson called Adam (naming tradition). > >Robert de Brus (1030 - 1094), Robert's ggggggg grandfather, landed with >William the Conqueror in 1066. He may have married a St. Clair, I will check >my notes. Emma de Bretagne is also a possibility but this makes the same >marriage in a previous generation unlikely. > > >If we move to Robert's gggggggg grandfather things become a little fuzzy and >contentious Robert de Brusse who married ? de Brittnay is a possibility but >needs checking. > >Regards > >John Postscript. The Lords of Skelton >>Adam de Brus, the second (ob.1180)= ????? >> >>Peter de Brus, the first of that name. = Agnes, Daughter of Stephen, >>Earl of Albemarle, widow of W de Romara, Earl of Lincoln. >>Isabella de Brus = Sir Henry de Percy, from whom descended the Percies, >>Earls of Northumberland. >> >>Peter de Brus, the Second (ob.1240) = Helewife, Daughter of Gilbert de >>Lancaster Baron of Kendal. >> >>Peter de Brus, the Third = Hillaria, Daughter of Lord Malo-lacu, or >>Mauley >> >>Peter de Brus, the Fourth died unmarried 1271, leaving his sisters his >>Heirs >>(1) Agnes = Walter de Fauconberge, had Skelton, Marske, & c. >>(2) Lucy = Marmaduke de Thweng, had Danby, Brotton and Yarm >>(3) Margaret = Robert de Roffe Lord of Werke, had Kendal, &c. >>(4) Ladrina = Sir John de Bella-aqua or Bellew, had Carleton in >>Balme,&c. >> >>This was the last of this line of Brus (Bruce) as it had died out with >>Peter de Brus in the year 1271 and as his sisters had married into >>different lines >> >> -----Original Message----- From: JeanSm@aol.com <JeanSm@aol.com> To: BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com <BRUCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 18 September 1999 19:21 Subject: Robert The Bruce >I am writing a book and one Chapter will be on BRUCE. I copy below the >sources I think are best. The biggest differences in these sources has to do >with William Bruce who m. Christina. 3 sources have him the "brother" of >Robert who m. Isobel (daug. of Wm. The Lion) and the Magna Carta Book has him >the "son" of that Robert. Please reply with your judgement on this complete >chart. > >Robert Bruce (magna Carta Book) and Robert Bruce by Scott, and Funk & Wagnall >Encyclopedia (1996) were the combination of sources used for comparison of >early generations in my book. A number below denotes descending generations. > Ten generations are noted under the title THIS BOOK (by Jean Smallwood). >Read columns downward. > > > >THIS BOOK Robert Bruce Robert Bruce >Encylopedia > (Magna Carta Book) by Scott > >1 Robert de Brusse 1 Robert de Brusse 1 grandfather > m. de Brittnay m. de Brittnay > HAD SON >2 Robert I 2 Robert m. St. Clair 2 Son unnamed 1 >Robert > d.1094-to England to Eng.with > d.1094 to Eng >Wm. the Conqueror Wm. the Conqueror >Wm/Conquer > HAD SON >3 Adam m. Ramsay 3 Adam m.Ramsay 3 Adam > HAD SON >4 Robert II-d. 1141 4 Robert -d. 1141 m. 4 Robert d. 1141 2 >Robert II > m. Pagnel (Paynell) Pagnel(Paynell) > HAD SONS >5 Adam Bruce d.1172 5 Adam Bruce > &Robert III 5 Robert m. Euphemia &Robert-d. 1196 3 >Robert III > d. 1196 > Robert HAD SONS HAD SONS >HAD SONS >6 Robert IV m. Isobel 6 Robert m. Isobel 6 Robert Bruce >4Robert IV > d/o Wm. The Lion > AND AND > AND > William Bruce 7William William Bruce > William Bruce > m. Christina-had daug. m.Christiana >7 Lady Dame Bruce > AND > Robert V-d. 1245 8Robert d 1245 7Robert-d. 1245 5 >Robert V > m.Isobel m. Isobel > HAD SON >8 Robert VI 9 Robert 1210-1295 8 Robert d. >1295 6Robert VI > "Competitor" m.De Clare m. De Clare > HAD SON >9 Robert VII b.1243 10 Robert 9 Robert > 7Robert VII > m. Carrick m. Carrick m. Carrick > HAD SON >10 King Robert 11 King Robert 10King Robert > 8King Robert > of Scotland > >Note-some sources (Familytreemaker-WFT-internet) say Robert Bruce (b.1030) m. >Emma de Bretagne > not St.Clair (2nd.gen.above)and had son Robert, d. 1141 (4th gen. above). >Many of these list Lady Bruce. >Some sources skip Adam Bruce (3rd. gen.)who m. Emma Ramsay,as does the >Encyclopedia above. >Latter Day Saints files list Robert m. Brittnay (1st gen) and record that he >had son Adam. who m. Ramsay. > >For Robert Bruce(Signers of Magna Carta,1215)-see internet Clan Bruce >www.tartans.com/clans/bruce.html >See Source Chart for Lady Dame Beckwith Bruce. In the 3 sources above, only >selected children are listed. >Some early genealogies list only sons. Daughters were not always listed. >Many later genealogies show Lady Dame Beckwith Bruce, the connection for this >book. >Thank you, Jean Smallwood (jeansm@aol.com) > > >==== BRUCE Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > >

> Hi everyone, > > Here is my William BRUCE info. I am not positive of where William and Helen > were born, but do have the proof on their marriage. Any help will be > appreciated. > > WILLIAM BRUCE was born 19 August 1821 in Selkirk, > Selkirkshire, (maybe no proof) Scotland, and died 27 November 1890 in Troy > Mills, Linn, IA. He married HELEN SCOTT 10 June 1845 in Melrose, Roxburgh, > Scotland, daughter of ROBERT SCOTT and ELIZABETH BURNS. She was born 12 > September 1823 in Ancrum, Roxburghshire, (no real proof on the area) Scotland, > and died 23 September 1899 in Troy Mills, Linn, IA. > > BarB > barbbuck@pacbell.net

--part1_8bd85228.2516312e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_8bd85228.2516312e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Slowm@aol.com From: Slowm@aol.com Full-name: Slowm Message-ID: <3991cbb2.25162f87@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:22:31 EDT Subject: George BRUCE-Louisa Co VA To: BRUCE-L@roots.web MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 I am trying to separate the George BRUCEs of Louise Co VA and surrounding areas for the time frame of 1700-1800. The information I seek is: Who are his parents, when and where did he die? Was he married and if so, to whom? George BRUCE who purchased 400 A on the Contrary Creek 7 April 1749. This was purchased from William SPILLER of King William Co (VA)and Anthony WALKE Junr of Prince George Co., VA. It was witnessed by T. B. SMITH, Robert HARRIS, Thomas WALKER, John GRINSTEAD. Adjoining property of Mr. CHISWELL and Col. MERIWETHER on Black Swamp. In 1758 George BRUCE of Lunenburg Co mortgaged the same property to James LITTLEPAGE of Hanover Co (VA?). This was witnesseed by John DARICOTT, Jno. WINSTON, Samuel OVERTON, Thos. WILKERSON. Any one with an interest in this George Bruce? Thank you in advance Bea Hudson Hampton, Va --part1_8bd85228.2516312e_boundary--