This is a really interesting string of dates, as another group I belong to, [email protected] has had a bit of a discussion going recently on long gaps between generations. The "rule of thumb" seems to be 25 years a generation. If that were to hold true for you, f/Gfather/gGfather/ggGfather would equal 100 years, and even if your present age were 100, that would only stretch back to 1802. Can you give the dates for your generations, as a matter of general interest? In my case, my ggGfather was born 1781 and did not marry until 1830, and Thomas Bruce was born 1834. Thanks, Rowland Rowland BRUCE. Adelaide, Australia. [BRUCE 2000 TO 1700, {Rowland John=NELSON**, Rowland Cyril=BROOK(E), Rowland=KAYE, Thomas = (1)NEWSOME, Samuel=INESON, Thomas =KITSON, John(jnr) =PRESTON, John (snr) =(2)FLETCHER ie eight generations] Surname of ancestors via female lines WHITWELL**, DYSON, HAMMOND*, ATKINSON, SYKES, TAYLOR, GILBERT*, DOWMAN*, BELLWOOD**, WILLANS, IBBERSON, HIRST, WALKER, RAMPOLDI*, ARMSTRONG*, COLLEY**, KITSON, LEE, CROWTHER, RICHARDSON*, ISLE*, WALKER*, BROOK, CHADWICK, THURMAN, AINSLEY, DODSON, ELINGWORTH, WESTERMAN. * = LINCOLNSHIRE, ** = NRY AND THE REST ARE WRY AROUND HALIFAX. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Robert "Eldon" BRUCE > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Bruce, Fox, Rye, Fravel, Barber, Dew, Lawson, Glascock,West > Classification: Biography > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1254.1 > > Message Board Post: > > How ironic that you have Robert Eldon. I had an Aunt > whose name was Elton Bruce Fox. Her husband was > Charles Bruce, so she was known as Brucie Bruce. I > am not sure where the Elton came from. A Great Uncle > of mine, Thomas Sinclair Fox had a daughter Elton > Virginia Fox, all in the same family. My ggGrandfather > was Alexander Bruce, born 7/7/77 in Greenock, > Scotland. He came to this country as a stowaway, > and lived in MD before moving to Culpeper, VA. He > married Ann Adams from Charles County, MD in 1812. > > > ==== BRUCE Mailing List ==== > The Internet Mailing List for BRUCE researchers > > To unsubscribe send an e-mail to [email protected] > with 'UNSUBSCRIBE' as the only text in the message > > If you get the digest version send an e-mail to [email protected] > with 'UNSUBSCRIBE' as the only text in the message. >

I am very interested in getting further information on the following Bruce family: perhaps John Bruce .......2 John E. Bruce b: October 1850 possibly in England or Scotland but prob. OH ..........+Honora F. Ferriter b: October 1853 in Towanda, Bradford Cty, PA m: December 10, 1874 in LaSalle Cty, IL d: in Streator, LaSalle Cty, IL ............3 James E. Bruce b: 1875 in Bruce Twp, LaSalle Cty, IL ................+Ella Unknown b: 1880 ...............4 Morrill E. Bruce b: 1901 ...............4 Leon E. Bruce b: 1903 ...............4 Unknown Bruce ...............4 Opal Bruce b: 1907 ...............4 Helen Bruce b: 1909 ..........3 Jennie E. Bruce b: September 1877 in LaSalle Cty, IL ..........3 John Bruce b: February 1884 in LaSalle Cty, IL ..........3 Arthur Bruce b: July 1886 in Custer Cty, NE ..........3 Frederick F. Bruce b: September 1888 in LaSalle Cty, IL d: 1976 in Streator, LaSalle Cty, IL .............+Audrey Zack b: 1894 d: 1959 in Streator, LaSalle Cty, IL ..............4 Frederick J. Bruce b: 1919 d: 1973 in Streator, LaSalle Cty, IL ..............4 Marjorie G. Bruce b: July 22, 1917 in Streator, LaSalle Cty, IL d: January 08, 1920 in Streator, LaSalle Cty, IL ..........3 Maurice Bruce b: December 1890 in LaSalle Cty, IL ....2 James Bruce Some further information on John, husband of Honora: He is found on page 171 of "Past and Present of Lasalle Cty, 1877" as a recruit for Henshaw's Battery Light Artillery on Jan. 8, 1864. He deserted one day later on Jan. 9th. He would only have been 14 years of age or 13. Found 1870 census in Streator with the family of John Ward in House 120-114. Census says he was from England and was a 20 year old coal miner. John Ward was born in Scotland and was 50. His wife, Jessie, was 50 and from Scotland. John was a miner. They had John age 20 b England and a miner plus Elizabeth Ward 14 and Robert Ward 10, both born in IL. In "Past and Present of LaSalle Cty, 1877 p. 530" is John Bruce, miner of Bruce Twp. The 1880 (135-140) Bruce Twp, LaSalle Cty, IL census says he was born in Scotland as were his parents. It gives his age as 29 and he is a driver in the coal mines. Nora is 25 and born in PA, James E. is 4 and born in IL and Jennie E. is 2 and born in IL. They live next door to John and Sarah Ferator, her brother. There was an obit published in the Streator Free Press Weekly for Mrs. John Bruce Sept. 25, 1875. She may have been his mother. Info from 1900 IL census: Ward 4 , Streator, LaSalle Co., IL. 20th St. John E. Bruce, b. 10/1850 Ohio Nora, b. 10/1853 PA Jennie, b. 9/1877 IL John, b. 2/1884 IL Arthur, b. 7/1886 Nebraska Fred, b. 9/1888 IL Any information would be appreciated. Audrey

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1224.2 Message Board Post: Sorry, but I am just now reading your message about the DNA testing. I am in another family message board that has gone through extensive testing on males because many people were against a brick wall with this family genealogy. The testing was done in a lab in CA for $99 each. Those who could not be tested like I contributed funds to help those who could not afford the charge for the test.If you would like further information, please advise.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce, Fox, Rye, Fravel, Barber, Dew, Lawson, Glascock,West Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1254.1 Message Board Post: How ironic that you have Robert Eldon. I had an Aunt whose name was Elton Bruce Fox. Her husband was Charles Bruce, so she was known as Brucie Bruce. I am not sure where the Elton came from. A Great Uncle of mine, Thomas Sinclair Fox had a daughter Elton Virginia Fox, all in the same family. My ggGrandfather was Alexander Bruce, born 7/7/77 in Greenock, Scotland. He came to this country as a stowaway, and lived in MD before moving to Culpeper, VA. He married Ann Adams from Charles County, MD in 1812.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce, Baker, Zimmerley, Trotter, Springer, Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1255.2 Message Board Post: I am researching the Bruce Family in Beaver County and would extremely interested in the pages of that bible. I have 3 family bibles now from my Bruce line. I also have a Henry Zimmerley married to Isabelle Bruce. I also have a picture of a Bruce taken in MN but haven't been able to identify it as of yet. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Carol Bruce Broderick

I got this from one of the other surname lists I belong to. Thought I would forward it in case there was anyone interested in this workshop. Kemis Massey wrote:From: "Kemis Massey" Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 02:21:38 -0400 Subject: [SKIPPER] Fw: [GAGEN] Southeast Region Genealogy Workshop To: [email protected] Southeast Region Genealogy Workshop Thought this might be of interest. Those of you with ancestors in Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, or Florida might be interested in a workshop to be held in cooperation with the National Archives and Records Administration's Southeast Region in Atlanta, Georgia, from October 13-18, 2002. The workshop includes instruction and hands-on research in a variety of original NARA records, from census to District Court and Confederate Court cases, prison records, military records, Internal Revenue Service tax assessments, land entry claims and land cessions under Creek, Chickasaw, and Choctaw treaties, and records of the Tennessee Valley Authority. For more information, go to http://www.rigsalliance.org/workshops_2002.htm. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 ==== GAGEN Mailing List ==== For researching SURNAMES, check out GAGenWeb's new help page with links to the most popular Surname sites: http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/cchelp/surname/ ==== SKIPPER Mailing List ==== Skipper List administrator is Rhonda Smith [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/XOG.2ACIB/170.253.1 Message Board Post: Can you give me the names of the three brothers? My uncle knows that two brothers in my family came over but there may have been a third. Were any of the brothers doctors?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1312.2 Message Board Post: I think I may have Floyd Bruce. and his children the names all sound fimilar but i am waiting on my mother to copy the family tree for me. i will call her again an request it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce, Prince, Britt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1318.1 Message Board Post: I have more information on Robert D. Bruce. I am waiting for my mother to send me my family tree program from her computer. Mine was lost. i do remember that George W. bruce is a gg grand father. dont think we had the middle name.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce, Powell, Shifflet, Shiflett, Clendaniel, Davis, Wiltbank, Manlove Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOG.2ACIB/1294.1 Message Board Post: Hi Sue---Have you looked at the Shiflet Family Website? The Bruces and Powells and Shiflets are there manyfold. I have not been able to uncover details about all of my Bruce ancestors there in Albemarle County, but Alman is a name I stumble upon with regularity. Lee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grant Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOG.2ACIB/1325.2.1.1 Message Board Post: George, Thanks very much. I'll be spending some time on the website you sent me. I believe that's my family. Marty doesn't know it yet but we are about to become acquainted. I really do appreciate the information and good luck on your research. Rex Kirby

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOG.2ACIB/1325.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Appreciate you taking the time to send me that very impressive family history, but I was unable to locate any connections between our two family groups.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grant Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOG.2ACIB/1325.2.1 Message Board Post: Rex, The names and locations you mentioned don't match any in my records, but you should probably check out the following link to Marty Grant's Genealogy Website. He has dozens of unrelated Grant family groups from TN and the Carolinas on his site, and one for Polk Co TN seems to match up with what you're looking for. You might be able to help him too, as his chart doesn't have the surname for Susan Bruce. http://www.martygrant.com/gen/grant/grant-alexander-buncombe.htm Good Luck! George Grant

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1267.1.2 Message Board Post: Sue, I also have Albermarle Bruces in my ancestry. If you want to exchange information you can contact me directly at [email protected] Verlene White

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1292.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Lee, This is the information I have that may or may not help: Joshua Bruce b. Oct 23,1778, Albermarle, VA. (He is shown as The Rev. Joshua Bruce, denomination unknown) d. Aug 23,1865, (place of burial unknown), m. Sept. 17,1801 to Sarah B. Hearn. Their first child was James b. Sept 30, 1802. I have no further information on James. He was one of twelve children. My source is through my uncle, Lloyd W. Bruce with no verification through official records that I know of.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1297.4 Message Board Post: Family legend has maintained we are descended from Robert the Bruce. I am sorry I cannot help you with his Norman ancestry though such does, indeed, exist. I have notes saying the Earl of Devon encouraged George, William and Walter Bruce to come to Virginia in the 1600's but I can't verify dates or places of birth, death, or marriage for them. Are you willing to share information?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce, Shiflett, Davis, Powell, Wood, Sheplette, Clendaniel, Watson, Manlove, Davis, Hickman, Wiltbank Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOG.2ACIB/1292.3.1 Message Board Post: Hi Verlene--I don't have dates really. James and Henry would have been alive ca. 1850-1920. William and Joshua are also ancestors but further toward 'antiquity.' I am missing the connection between Joshua and James' and Henry's father Henry Bruce. It's all very confusing because the were all James, Henry, James Henry, Henry William or Harry! Thank you for responding. Lee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XOG.2ACIB/1292.3 Message Board Post: You don't give years for your greatgrandfathers. I have Bruce ancestors in Albermarle County dating from 1752-1778--William Bruce and Joshua Bruce. The names of your ancestors don't appear in my records but there may be a connection.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grant, Bruce Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOG.2ACIB/1325.2 Message Board Post: George, I noted with interest your surnames Grant and Bruce, two of the ones I'm working on. If you come across any information on SUSAN FRANCES GRANT, b. 9 Dec 1864 Polk Co, TN, dau. of WILEY GRANT, b. 27 Apr 1843, Polk Co, TN and SUSAN BRUCE, b. unk, d. unk I sure would appreciate your letting me know. Wiley and Susan (Bruce) had two other children I know of: George A. Grant and Harriett Grant. I do not know Wiley's parents, brothers or sisters. Susan Bruce's father may have been Alexander Bruce. I know that Wiley Grant and his daughter Susan Frances Grant were in TX by 1878 but I do not know what happened to Susan Bruce Grant. It appears she died in TN or in route to TX. Wiley died in l890 and is buried in Upshur Co, TX but so far I have not located his wife Susan Bruce. Nor do I know where any of these folks came from before they turned up in Polk Co, TX. Any help at all would be very much appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOG.2ACIB/1325.1.1.1 Message Board Post: sent you a file on the desendents of Thomas Bruce