Thanks for your help Steve. I will try and look at the deeds. I have explored the Cornelius angle as there were not too many in the Watauga with that name. I thought I read somewhere that Michael was at some Fort with Gov. Servier during the Rev War. Would you know if this was true and where that Fort was? I noticec that Daniel was not listed as taxible until 1790 in the Watauga. I wondered if he might have been further south or have tried his luck in North Carolina or Kentucky first. I can't find record of him in Virginia. Daniel didn't seem to be the stay at home type. He was only in the Watauga for 10 - 15 years then headed to other places, White, McMinn, Rhea and possibly other areas. The probate record for Cyrus indicated that he borrowed money from Cyrus and Adam was rather disturbed with him. That is where I got the impression regarding him being a bit on the wild side as well as the fact that he joined in the War at age 15. Cornelius and James Madison his sons were very stable though. Both were well respected in their communities. James Madison was a clerk in Monroe county . Cornelius took in James Madison's children after his death (census records), he even supported James Madison's son Robert while he studied medicine. Are you a decendant of Daniel? Thanks again for your help, I'll check the angles you suggest. Susan