Hello I am new at this and have ran into a couple of problems. First of all in our family Heritage Book we have Zachariah Broyles, which is the son of Jacob Adam Broil (Hans Jacob as yall refer to him), to be the father of Michael Broyles that was married to Margret Newberry. When looking at the family line on the net, it looks like maybe his father was Michael Broyles. Can anyone help clear this problem up for me? Also we have always been told that Michael and Margret were the ones to change the name to Broyles??? Thank you for any help you can give me! Stacie Broyles Branson

Smile2Uall2@aol.com wrote: > > Hello > I am new at this and have ran into a couple of problems. First of all in our > family Heritage Book we have Zachariah Broyles, which is the son of Jacob > Adam Broil (Hans Jacob as yall refer to him), to be the father of Michael > Broyles that was married to Margret Newberry. When looking at the family > line on the net, it looks like maybe his father was Michael Broyles. Can > anyone help clear this problem up for me? Also we have always been told that > Michael and Margret were the ones to change the name to Broyles??? > > Thank you for any help you can give me! > > Stacie Broyles Branson > > ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi The Michael Broyles you mentioned was also the son of a Michael Broyles And they didn't change their name to Broyles. The English did that in trying to spell the German name. Just what do you need on this family. I have alot on them. Ken Broyles jkbroyles@icx.net

At 08:04 PM 06/13/2000, Smile2Uall2@aol.com wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Hello I am new at this and have ran into a couple of problems. First of all in our family Heritage Book we have Zachariah Broyles, which is the son of Jacob Adam Broil (Hans Jacob as yall refer to him), to be the father of Michael Broyles that was married to Margret Newberry. When looking at the family line on the net, it looks like maybe his father was Michael Broyles. Can anyone help clear this problem up for me? Also we have always been told that Michael and Margret were the ones to change the name to Broyles??? Thank you for any help you can give me! Stacie Broyles Branson **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Hi Stacie. This is the second email I have received this week that refers to "Hans Jacob BROYLES" as "Jacob Adam BROIL". I haven't seen this reference in a long, long time. I just wonder, where, and with what proof, this person EVER was identified as "Jacob Adam". Does ANYONE know of a verifiable primary source document to back this up? I'm also curious as to the source of "Michael and Margret were the ones to change the name to BROYLES". Back years and years ago, I did see references to Hans Jacob as Jacob Adam, but, at the time, the "source" was based on family lore, or family oral history, and was never proven. If his name WAS Jacob Adam, I would LOVE to get a copy of the source(s) and to change all the data I have; however, knowing a little about German naming traditions, "Hans Jacob" and "Jacob Adam" just do not start to equal one another. The fellow's father was Johannes BREYHEL (BREHEL, or however it was spelled in various documents). At that time, sons were "usually" give a "first" name of their father, with a "second" name of their own. They were NEVER known by their "first" name, but by their "second". Thus, Johannes BREYHEL, if following tradition, would have named his two sons "Johann Jacob" and "Johann Conrad". Johann or Johan or Johannes was, informally, shortened to "Hans". Thus, the person in question may have become known as "Hans Jacob" in America, maybe because of the English tradition of using first names, or, maybe, to differentiate him from his son "Jacob". I've always "suspected" that Conrad's name was really "Johann Conrad", but no one has EVER found a source document to prove this. I just wish we could find out where this "Jacob Adam" found its way into the genealogy records. It was several generations down in history before the name "Adam" was first used in the BROYLES family. It certainly had no precedence, that we know of, in Germany, or in the early generations in America. I'm not casting aspersions, just trying to find out, once and for all, where the "Adam" came from, and if there is any actual proof. SgtGeorge