At 06/21/2002 09:38 PM Friday, AYG212001@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Dear Broyles List- I am the poor soul that has a relative that works >for the >gov. and his job is checking identity theft using the net. I never >put any >of my information on the net except for answering emails and if >someone else >did, they should have asked first. This poor lady was shocked to see >her >entire families names, dates and places of birth for certain people to >see. >Evidently, you know nothing about name or identity theft. Poor >you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you believe in a virus that >may >slip into your computer and gather info or is that just a myth in this >poor >lady's head. **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Enough of this thread! The lady in question published her genealogy information on the Web as a "Family Tree". Evidently she was a "newbie" and didn't realize that ANYONE could read her data and post it somewhere else. Now she wants the information removed. I'm sorry, but once the information is out there, it's impossible to remove it everywhere it may appear. A note of caution to everyone: When you create a GEDCOM (.GED File) from your genealogy program, be SURE you do not include anything you want kept private. All good genealogy programs give you the option of NOT including any information on LIVING persons. Use that option! George

At 05/15/2002 02:19 PM Wednesday, Broyles wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >In the years that I have been researching the Broyles family. I have >found >30 odd spellings of our name. It is the miss-spelling of our name >that has >confused people of those years. We blamed it on the English not >speaking >German and Germans not speaking English. It was even spelled several >different ways in Germany. So what different does it make. I like the >spelling of BROYLES , but I spell it the way I find it in my research. >I'm >pretty sure there has been other that came to America after our fore >fathers. Ken Broyles **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hi Ken. Yes, there "may" have been other members of the same extended German family that came to America after our "John BROYLES". But, the circumstances were not the same to cause whatever-the-name to be changed to BROYLES. That was a one- time occurrence. George

At 05/15/2002 02:17 AM Wednesday, Sperong@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >I work with a man named John Briehl which is the more modern >day spelling. His father came here from Germany. Although it >is hard to be positive I think it likely that most Broyles are >descendants from Germania. **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** I've never run across the spelling BRIEHL in any German records that have to do with our Johannes BREYHEL (John BROYLES). Again, your acquaintance, John BRIEHL, "might" be related back many generations to our Johannes BREYHEL/BREHEL/BREUL, but his name is BRIEHL. When his ancestors came to this country, they didn't change their name to BROYLES! To have done so would entail such a convoluted logic and chain of events to make it to be out of the realm of the possible. The changing of the surname of our ancestor to BROYLES was due to the lack of language training of the English-speaking clerks in VA in the early 1700's. They just wrote down what they "heard". And, those "BROYLES" emigrants didn't speak English (not for several generations) and had no idea WHAT was being written down on official documents. So, in the case of the lawsuit brought by Lt. Gov. Spotswood against the 2nd Colony emigrants, John's (Johannes') surname was written BRYOLL. You can find it spelled a dozen different ways in other documents. The upshot of all of this is that ONE spelling predominated, and was eventually accepted by the descendants of John's son, Hans Jacob, BROYLES. (You WILL find it as BROILES, BROIL, BROYLE, etc., in some lines, but it's still a variant spelling of BROYLES.) Please, I don't mean to sound condescending or superior -- it's just that I was trained as a linguist and spent 22 years in the USAF as an Interpreter/Interrogator. I have also taken just about every college course available in Linguistics. All of which leads me to one conclusion: no later German emigrant, with whatever spelling variant of the same German surname ever changed his/her name to BROYLES. It just wouldn't make sense. George

Roy, you are correct when speaking broadly and generally about such things. But, in this solitary case, BROYLES, there is no question. First of all, if the "old boy's" father stepped off the boat 40 or 50 years ago, his name wouldn't have been BROYLES! BROYLES was the Anglicization of the German surname BREHEL, BREYHEL, or BREUL (it was spelled several ways, even in the Church records in Germany, for the same person). I doubt that a German with one of those spellings coming to America in the past 50 years would automatically change the name to BROYLES. Why? You are also correct when you relate those "stories". But, again, no shoe fits all wearers. You asked about BROYLES; I gave an answer. Believe me, the BROYLES/BRILES family has been researched probably as much as any surname in America. Dr. Keith spent years in the early 1900's on this family, and if there had been another BROYLES emigrant, I believe he would have been found by now. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think there are any "good old boys" out there who are descended from late-coming BROYLES emigrants. When one shows up, THEN I will backtrack and "eat crow". Fortunately for us genealogy researchers, BROYLES/BRILES (however it is/was spelled) is one of those surnames that is very, very uncommon. And, BROYLES/BRILES is really an artificial assumption. In this case, one has to have really gone deeply into the history of the family to understand why a recent emigrant (within the past 200 years, even) would NOT be a BROYLES. Yer Cuz, George At 05/14/2002 03:37 PM Tuesday, Roy Patton wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >At 02:08 05/14/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > So far every person descended from a BROYLES, BRILES, etc., has > >eventually been able to trace his/her ancestry back to the ONE > >emigrant, who arrived in America in 1717 from Germany. > > > >Your question flies in the face of all genealogy research done to > >date on this family. > > >George > > > > >George, > > Your reply makes sense if everyone is a conscientious > genealogist. >I was thinking about the old boy who doesn't give a flip about >genealogy >so he hasn't bothered to check in with us and tell us he's here. His >father >is named BROYLES and he came to this country about 40 or 50 years ago >and >our people didn't spot him as he stepped off the ship. It only takes >one >male to start a family name. > > I have another line where the story has always been that "all > ****** >in this country are descended from Andrew ***** who came to America >before >they split up into Colonies." That story has recently bit the dust >when some >******'s were found who came to New York, of all places. > > I have another line where the story has always been that "all > ^^^^^^ >in this country are descended from Jonathan ^^^^^ who came to >Baltimore." >That story recently bit the dust when some ^^^^^'s were found who had >never >heard of Baltimore. > >Roy Patton **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT***********

George and Ken, This list has been very helpful to me, but if you wish that I leave the list, I will. This is twice I have upset certain personalities. Once I made the mistake and thanked someone, and now I only did what I was instructed too by professionals. Janice Gorham

Dear Broyles List- I am the poor soul that has a relative that works for the gov. and his job is checking identity theft using the net. I never put any of my information on the net except for answering emails and if someone else did, they should have asked first. This poor lady was shocked to see her entire families names, dates and places of birth for certain people to see. Evidently, you know nothing about name or identity theft. Poor you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you believe in a virus that may slip into your computer and gather info or is that just a myth in this poor lady's head.

In a message dated 6/21/02 6:42:53 PM, AYG212001@aol.com writes: << Janice Gorham >> George, is this lady for real? Is she a member of the list? She is really sad. Nobody can put anything "secret" out unless it has been shared on the Internet, so Lady you can only blame yourself. Sorry. A lot of my research was put shared by others, but it couldn't have happened without me releasing it first. I believe the saying these days is "get a Life". LaRita Reynes

Somehow someone got my family tree information and posted it on the net. I know this information could only have been from my tree, for I used names that only I knew, Like MY First Name. It isn't even on my drivers license, or land deeds. Several others are the same. My mothers first name has not been used in over 40 years. Know one new many of the nicknames or given names, so I have proof. I have many living persons with dates and places that did not ever intend to end up on the net. Please, if you have added my information on your trees, please remove it. I also have notes that were only for my eyes and no one else. Some of the people are very worried about identity theft and worried about their children. Please remove information on the wife, children, and grandchildren of James V. Johnson, Jr. The information on Alexander Lowrance b. 1830 and his descendants at this time is just guess work. The children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of James Artie Cook are living and all info needs to be removed. James K. Turner descendants, and his ancestors are still just guess work. I did not want bad information on the net, nor did I want personal information about the living out there in the www. Please help me by passing this email to other researchers and family sites. Thank you. Janice Gorham

I found Rebecca Broyles (dau. of Adam Briles)b. ca 1780 md. Daniel Moore in Greene cO., TN 27, Mar. 1799 Lic. with Sparling Bowman as security. Doesn't say anything about him being md. 2 times. I have their children if you want them. Ken Broyles ----- Original Message ----- From: <ayg212001@aol.com> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: [BROYLES] Re: Broyles Puzzle This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IOG.2ACIB/62.80.81.82.83.110.1 Message Board Post: I am searching for the siblings and parents of Daniel Boone Moore. I have been told his first name was William, with Daniel Boone Moore. He came across the mountains in 1799 to the Valley of Tennessee. He was married, but she died giving birth to a son which lived. Daniel then married Rebecca Broyles in Greene or Washington County Tennessee. I do not know who his first wife was. Boone is still used in the Moore family. Do you know if they were related to Daniel Boone or just a close friend, I have been told both. I would appreciate any information that you could share. Thank you, Janice ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: georgedurman@home.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IOG.2ACIB/62.80.81.82.83.110.1 Message Board Post: I am searching for the siblings and parents of Daniel Boone Moore. I have been told his first name was William, with Daniel Boone Moore. He came across the mountains in 1799 to the Valley of Tennessee. He was married, but she died giving birth to a son which lived. Daniel then married Rebecca Broyles in Greene or Washington County Tennessee. I do not know who his first wife was. Boone is still used in the Moore family. Do you know if they were related to Daniel Boone or just a close friend, I have been told both. I would appreciate any information that you could share. Thank you, Janice

For the past few days, MyFamily/Ancestry/Rootsweb has been undergoing some hardware and software upgrades and modifications. This has caused some web pages to not work properly, or to not work at all. We are assured that these problems will be solved soon. In the meantime, if you experience difficulties reaching any of our web sites, particularly the Message Boards pages, it is caused by the servers at MyFamily/Ancestry/Rootsweb, and has nothing to do with your own systems or connections. One of the problems you may experience when you go to John Blankenbaker's "Germany and Austria Photo Page" is that you may not see an index at the bottom showing all the available individual village/town pages of photos. You may also notice small problems with web page elements that work with CGI, such as not seeing "This Page was Last Modified (Date & Time)", and maybe a few more such errors. And, it is impossible to upload any new web pages, or upload any changes to existing pages. Therefore, John's latest "Germanna Notes" haven't been posted, nor have the latest pages for his and Eleanor's photos from the May, 2002 trip to Germany and Austria. As soon as the server problems are corrected, I will immediately upload all pending new pages and modifications. I have ready Notes Nr. 1406 through 1409, and some changes to the Photos pages, specifically for Lambsheim and Neuenbürg. Until then, please be patient. If, after the problems are "solved", you still see glitches on any of the pages, PLEASE let me know about it. Regards, George W. Durman List Manager

I saw that on TV one day after the women bowling. But I do not know where she fits in. If any one does know, please let us know. Ken Broyles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret McDowell" <marge@snowcrest.net> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:43 AM Subject: [BROYLES] Sylvia Broyles I read where Sylvia Broyles of Spring Branch, Texas has been elected as the President of the Women's International Bowing Congress (WIBC). My father told me years ago that she is his cousin but I don't find her anywhere in the information I have. Does anyone have her linage? ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I read where Sylvia Broyles of Spring Branch, Texas has been elected as the President of the Women's International Bowing Congress (WIBC). My father told me years ago that she is his cousin but I don't find her anywhere in the information I have. Does anyone have her linage?

Please check the Rootsweb sites about the California Senate Bill 1614 which involves the birth and death records published on the Internet. We need input so the politicians will know how important these records are to us. http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/SB1614.html http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/NGS_FGS.html

If anyone has received the "Jdbgmgr.exe" Virus HOAX, and needs to recover the file, here is the Microsoft Support web site where you can read about the HOAX, and find out exactly how to recover the file you deleted before you engaged your brain. (GRIN) <http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q322993&ID=q322993> Just passing along the information since so many gullible computer users seem to have fallen for the HOAX lately, and deleted the file that is a necessary part of MS Internet Explorer. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman

I for got say the rest. Anna was Anna Durr. She d. 27, Apr. 1682 and dau. of Conrad Durr. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MichaeleKehrt@netscape.net> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:39 AM Subject: [BROYLES] Re: broyles history This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BREYEL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IOG.2ACIB/119.126.128.1 Message Board Post: I believe Martin 's father was Johannes Breyel born about 1596 in Dusslingen, Germany. He married Anna about 1622 and died between 1635 and 1639 in Dusslingen. ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

That is right. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MichaeleKehrt@netscape.net> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:39 AM Subject: [BROYLES] Re: broyles history This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BREYEL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IOG.2ACIB/119.126.128.1 Message Board Post: I believe Martin 's father was Johannes Breyel born about 1596 in Dusslingen, Germany. He married Anna about 1622 and died between 1635 and 1639 in Dusslingen. ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BREYEL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IOG.2ACIB/119.126.128.1 Message Board Post: I believe Martin 's father was Johannes Breyel born about 1596 in Dusslingen, Germany. He married Anna about 1622 and died between 1635 and 1639 in Dusslingen.

Would enjoy hearing the gene. of Frank Broyles as my children are desc`s of the wilhite Broyles Germanna families. Thanks, Sue in Al.

His full name is John Franklin Broyles of Atlanta, GA I have his complete line. Ken Broyles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Mays" <rcmays@compuserve.com> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: [BROYLES] Frank Broyles Looking for descendants of University of Arkansas coach Frank Broyles. I believe his wife is a descendant of Lydia/Lidia Walthall, sister of my g grandmother. Look forward to meeting you! Raymond Mays, San Angelo, TX ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: georgedurman@home.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237