(continued from Part 1) 4) ANTI-VIRUS (AV) PROGRAMS: AV programs are the only programs that give you FULL protection against infected email and infected email attachments. Other security programs such as Firewalls, AdBlockers, and CookieBlockers help, but can't do all that AV programs can do. There are some things you must know about AV programs that are essential if you really want protection against viruses, worms, trojans, etc. a) First, you must have an AV program installed; b) The program itself must be kept updated with the latest engines; c) It must be kept updated with the latest Virus Definition files. d) It should be configured to automatically check every email and file you download; e) It need NOT be configured to automatically check every file the computer uses, since that eats up computer resources and really slows down the system; but, if you don't let it do this automatically, you MUST run scans on your system regularly, whether automated or manual; f) It need NOT be configured to automatically scan your system at selected intervals; but, you MUST run manual scans at regular intervals, preferably 2 or 3 times a week; g) Even if you have your AV program configured to check all incoming email and file downloads, you STILL need to run scans on your system regularly; infections DO slip through; further, you might download a virus/worm/trojan that was just released, and one for which the AV programers haven't released updated virus definition files; running regular scans ensures that your AV program will catch any infections that were missed. Even if you have an AV program installed, if you omit b) or c) above, you might as well use chicken bones and garlic and voodoo to ward off infections of your computer system. Most all good AV programs allow automatic updating. I suggest you USE automatic updating, especially now that these new infections are coming out almost daily, and some times more than one a day. And, even if using automatic updating, you should manually check a couple times a day until this latest epidemic slows down. Finally, on this subject, if you don't let the AV program automatically scan at selected intervals, you MUST run manual scans. I use AVG Pro as my AV program. I had it set to automatically updates every day at noon. From 1:30 AM Tuesday morning, until 12:00 Noon today (Wednesday) AVG released 5 virus updates !!!!! Only two of the updates were downloaded and installed automatically since I had AVG set to look only once a day. The other three were acquired by my manual checking. I have since added five more daily automatic checks! After adding the additional upgrade checks, I had one set for 12:00 Midnight; I didn't finish this post soon after I started it and came back to it at 2:00 AM; AVG Pro had checked at Midnight; I just did a manual check and another virus definition upgrade was released sometime between Midnight and 2:00 AM. Folks, there is a reason the AV companies are putting out virus definition updates so fast and furiously! New viruses/worms/trojans, or new variants of them, are being released every few hours now !!!!! I would suggest you configure your AV program to check for updates every 4 hours. I hope it doesn't get so bad we have to check every hour, or every half-hour. There is a free AVG program and an AVG Pro that costs $33.30. Both can be found at: <http://www.grisoft.com>. 5) CHECKING THE SECURITY OF YOUR SYSTEM: In addition to all the above, there is one more thing you can do to check the security of your system. Steve Gibson, of Gibson Research Corporation (GRC), has a website where you can check your system security. And, it's FREE. Go to: <http://www.grc.com/default.html> to read about the latest vulnerabilities of computer systems and to download some small (free) utilities to check your system. But, while you're at Steve's website, be sure to run the online tests he has available. At the main page, scroll down and click on "Shields Up", then follow the directions. At each page be sure to continue to the bottom and read all Steve has to say. There are some valuable tips there. a) First click on "File Sharing"; many (most?) of you will find that your system is NOT protected; Steve's "file-sharing) test attempts to contact the Hidden Internet Server within your PC. It is likely that no one has told you that your own personal computer may now be functioning as an Internet Server with neither your knowledge nor your permission. And that it may be serving up all or many of your personal files for reading, writing, modification and even deletion by anyone, anywhere, on the Internet! If you fail this test, Steve will recommend actions you can take to fix this security problem. b) Next, click on "Common Ports". This Internet Common Ports Probe attempts to establish standard TCP Internet connections with a collection of standard, well-known, and often vulnerable or troublesome Internet ports on YOUR computer. Since this is being done from our server, successful connections demonstrate which of your ports are "open" or visible and soliciting connections from passing Internet port scanners. If your system is properly protected, the probe should find NO ports vulnerable to Internet hackers or scanners. c) Next, click on "All Service Ports". This probe does the same thing as b) above, but checks an additional 1056 ports. It should find NO vulnerable ports. d) Next, click on "Messenger Spam". This will test whether your system is protected from unsolicited messages when you are using Microsoft Messenger. You have to have Messenger running when you do this test. If you are NOT protected, you will see the unsolicited messages pop up on your screen. e) Next, click "Browser Headers". Read all the instructions and then run the test. f) There are a number of free utilities you can download and run to finish checking out your system's security: "UnPlug n' Pray" "DCOMbobulator" "Shoot The Messenger" "ID Serve" (great for finding out the numerical value of a web server, e.g., www.rootsweb.com = 66.43.18.22.) "Wizmo" (lots of little free gadgets) "Leak Test" (Personal firewall leakage tester.) "XPdite" (Crucial Windows XP Vulnerability Fixer.) "SocketLock" (Disable WinXP and 2000 raw sockets.) "SocketToMe" (Check your Windows OS for raw sockets.) "FIX-CIH Virus Recovery" (Total recovery from CIH virus damage. Every April, the CIH virus resurfaces and wipes out thousands of hard disk drives by deliberately zeroing their partition, boot, and FAT tables. The first time this happened I wrote this complete post-CIH hard drive recovery utility.) "NoShare" (Quick and simple NetBIOS disabler. When the ShieldsUP! system was first created, I had not discovered how to safely "rebind" network transports as a means for closing the NetBIOS TCP/IP vulnerabilities. So I wrote the LetShare & NoShare utilities to do this quickly and easily (although in a non-standard fashion). Today, the manual rebinding described on the ShieldsUP! pages is the preferred method. LetShare & NoShare still work and can be useful for allowing quick NetBIOS on/off testing. "Trouble In Paradise (TIP)" (Check Iomega drive operation.) I hope all this information will help you keep your Windows system secure. If you have any questions, please do not reply back here to the Lists. Instead, email me privately at mailto:georgewdurman@comcast.net. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.225 / Virus Database: 262.1.4 - Release Date: 3/3/04

I don't mean to run this subject into the ground, but, since sending the past few notices about the latest virus threats, I've seen some replies that might indicate some users don't really understand about computer security problems and how to protect against them. Therefore, I'm going to give a short tutorial on the subject and hope that the information may keep more of you from becoming infected. There are several things I need to talk about here, so will just list them in categories. Actual info on Anti-Virus programs will be last. (I will recommend programs in each of the categories. Keep in mind that I'm only going to talk about the programs I use -- there are others, some not as good, and some as good. I endorse no product; I'm just going to tell you about the ones I use or have used in the past.) 1) FIREWALLS: A firewall is a computer program that blocks objectionable content while shielding the system from hackers, worms, and other threats. A good firewall will prevent individuals, other computers, and servers from entering your system via the Internet; it will also prevent YOUR computer from sending out information to others, from programs or utilities on your computer, such as "Call-Home" programs or other "Spy Ware". (More on spyware, and how to find and delete it, below.) Without a firewall, your system is open to others who can gain access via Internet connections, regardless of the type of connection. Without a good firewall, people can enter your system and steal files, plant trojans or worms, and even corrupt or erase your files. YOU ARE NOT PROTECTED AGAINST UNWANTED ACCESS TO YOUR COMPUTER VIA INTERNET CONNECTIONS BY ANY ANTI-VIRUS (AV) PROGRAM !!!!! You must have a firewall! If you have a cable connection, you are online 24/7; your computer is directly connected to the Internet at ALL times! Those who use a good firewall can attest to the dozens (sometimes hundreds) of intrusion attempts daily. I'm not going to count them, but just now looking at ZoneAlarm Pro, the firewall I use, I can see that my system has been queried (attempted entries) several HUNDRED times since midnight last night (about 18 hours ago) !!!!! Most are rated "Medium" risks, but there have been several dozen rated "High". All were stopped! If you use DSL or ordinary dialup connections, don't think you aren't at risk, or do not need a firewall. There are hackers out there who have set up automated programs on their servers to roam the Internet looking for open connections. These auto-bots can find your dialup connections in a matter of micro-seconds; and it doesn't take very long for them to do whatever they were programmed to do. EVERYONE NEEDS A GOOD FIREWALL !!! I use ZoneAlarm Pro (ZA Pro). It is rated by some security experts as the best protection you can get. There are other programs that some claim are just as good, and you can find them on the Web by doing a search for "Firewall". The regular ZoneAlarm (ZA) is free. The Pro version costs $49.95 and gives added protection for email, attachments, etc. It's up to you how much protection you want. Either program can be downloaded at: <http://www.zonelabs.com>. 2) SPYWARE FINDERS AND REMOVERS: It has been estimated that 75-80% of all home computer users have one or more "SpyWare" programs on their computers. Many users, running spyware finder programs, find literally HUNDREDS of spyware gremlins on their systems. Most of this spyware is not damaging to your SYSTEM, but can be very harmful to YOU by sending personal information to others, such as Social Security Numbers, email addresses, user IDs, usernames, passwords, your Web browsing habits, the files you have on your system, etc. If you don't use a firewall, you have no control over this spyware. It will send information without you knowing about it. So, the safest way to avoid spyware problems is to find the programs that have spyware and eliminate them. To find spyware finders and removers, do a search on the Web for "Spyware Program". I use two such detection programs, "Ad-Aware Plus" and "Spybot Search & Destroy". They do similar things, but you really need both of them. Each will catch some spyware the other misses. Between the two, you can remove all spyware from your system. Ad-Aware comes in a free basic version. The Plus version costs $26.95. Either can be found at: <http://www.lavasoft.de/>. Just because it's named "Ad-Aware" don't think it finds only Ad programs; it finds ANY spyware on your system. Spybot Search & Destroy is free. There are no paid-for versions. It can be found at: <http://safer-networking.org/>. It will also find malware, hijackers, dialers, keyloggers, trojans, etc. 3) AD & COOKIE BLOCKING PROGRAMS: There are dozens and dozens of these programs available. To find them all do a Web search for "Ad Blocker" or "Cookie Blocker". MS Internet Explorer and other web browsers have their own internal ad and cookie blockers, but they don't do as complete a job as good stand-alone programs. I use AdSubtract Pro, which will block all online ads & cookies. It blocks banner ads, Pop-Up and Pop-Under ads, text ads, and multimedia ads. It also silences Web site sounds and other bothersome multimedia animation. You can use "intelligent blocking" to enable InterMute's SmartPOP technology or "aggressive blocking" to prevent any Pop-Ups from appearing. The Pro version costs $29.95. There is a trial version which you can use free for 30 days, but it doesn't have all the blocking abilities that the Pro version has. You can find both versions at: <http://www.intermute.com/adsubtract/>. (The previous major version of AdSubtract had a free version. It is no longer available at the website, but I'm sure it can be found on the web. Lots of people probably still have the installation files for it sitting on their hard drives.) (continued in Part 2) Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.225 / Virus Database: 262.1.4 - Release Date: 3/3/04

You are sooooo... right. It is nasty. It infected ten of my McAfee files. It was a bad week. First I was hit with the Six Buttons to Hell JsTrojan Windowbomb worm which rode in on a program I downloaded from Evrsoft. Also found and located practically at the same time was an Eicar virus and an undesirable program called Mastermatejoke in my _Restore/Archives. Now, I rarely ever open an attachment unless I am fairly certain what it is. And I had Norton AntiVirus and ZoneAlarm FireWall on my computer. Lost Netscape and my Norton files started acting up and bought McAfee Security Suite that on the second pass through caught the Netsky virus that was in its own files. I worked for days and was finally able to access and delete the Restore files. My printer stopped working and my monitor locked into a 640x480 resolution. Finally uninstalled my Windows ME program intending to go clear down to Dos but fortunately had a n older version that was not infected on my computer. And my printer and monitor came back to life and working fairly well now after I downloaded all my data files and I had ordered a new computer. This old computer is the one that I am going to use on line. My new computer is NOT going on line as I don't want to risk my many photo projects that I am working on. Both my son and my daughter's companies have been hit by the virus. I was deleting 4-8 viruses a day that was being sent to me and thought I was being very alert and still it got me. Norma Jennings

George Norton Antivirus 2003 Professional Edition has also up dated their virus definitions to include more that what they had on Monday. Monday their list before I went live to update today took care of: W32.Beagle.A@mm W32.Beagle.B@mm , C, D, & E. The live update today has included up-dates for F, F@mm[zip ], G, H, I, J, & K strains of this virus. This program also is protecting against: W32.Netsky.B@mm W32.Netsky.C@mm W32.Netsky.D@mm W32.Netsky.dam W32.Netsky.E@mm W32.Netsky.F@mm W32.Netsky.gen W32.Netsky@mm I am glad to say that we have not been infected with any virus for two weeks now. That is our programs have stopped or killed all viruses before they infected our system. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: George W. Durman <GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: [BROYLES] Nasty New Virus "Netsky.D" (Update-Actually W32.Beagle/W32.Bagle (.H or .I)) > Correction to previous notice: > > It is not the Netsky.D virus. It is W32.Beagle/W32.Bagle (.H or .I). > Sorry about the misinformation. I was only passing on what had > been posted on the Listowners Mailing List. Doesn't really matter > though, since this new infection is spreading like wildfire. The > AV people estimate the chances of receiving an email with the > infection is about 1:19. So, if you receive 190 emails daily, you > might receive 10 infected messages. SgtGeorge > > ********************************************** > > (Please do not reply to this notice here on the Mailing Lists. > If you must discuss it, contact the manager of the List.) > > > Have any of you been receiving the latest Netsky.D infection? > It's been hitting hard and heavy. I've seen quite a few posts on > other Mailing Lists about it and McAfee wasn't catching it. > Neither were AOL's AV software or any other server's software. > BUT..... my AVG Pro DID catch it! Hooray! (AVG Pro has > been updated 5 times in the past 32 hours!) > > > FOR YAHOO EMAIL USERS (and probably others): > > Netsky.D is faking emails from Yahoo about users' accounts. > Here is what the fake email looks like: > > ********************************************** > Dear user of Yahoo.com, > > Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in > next three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign > your account information. > > For details see the attached file. > > Attached file protected with the password for security reasons. > > Password is > 66482. > > The Management, > The Yahoo.com team > > http://www.yahoo.com > > Attachment > TextDocument.zip > .zip file > > Scan and Download Attachment > Scan and Save to my Yahoo! Briefcase > ********************************************** > > DO NOT OPEN THE SUPPOSED TEXTDOCUMENT.ZIP !!!!! > It is the Netsky.D virus!!!!! If you open it, you are infected > immediately. > > Netsky.D will probably be sending itself purporting to be from > other email services. Do not click on the attachment! Do not > do ANYTHING with the email except delete it. If your Anti- > Virus program is working AND has been updated during the > past few hours, the AV program probably caught it. As of this > morning McAfee hadn't updated virus definitions for it. They > probably have by now. > > Regards, > SgtGeorge > > > -- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 7.0.225 / Virus Database: 262.1.3 - Release Date: 3/3/04 > > > > ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > broyles-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Correction to previous notice: It is not the Netsky.D virus. It is W32.Beagle/W32.Bagle (.H or .I). Sorry about the misinformation. I was only passing on what had been posted on the Listowners Mailing List. Doesn't really matter though, since this new infection is spreading like wildfire. The AV people estimate the chances of receiving an email with the infection is about 1:19. So, if you receive 190 emails daily, you might receive 10 infected messages. SgtGeorge ********************************************** (Please do not reply to this notice here on the Mailing Lists. If you must discuss it, contact the manager of the List.) Have any of you been receiving the latest Netsky.D infection? It's been hitting hard and heavy. I've seen quite a few posts on other Mailing Lists about it and McAfee wasn't catching it. Neither were AOL's AV software or any other server's software. BUT..... my AVG Pro DID catch it! Hooray! (AVG Pro has been updated 5 times in the past 32 hours!) FOR YAHOO EMAIL USERS (and probably others): Netsky.D is faking emails from Yahoo about users' accounts. Here is what the fake email looks like: ********************************************** Dear user of Yahoo.com, Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in next three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign your account information. For details see the attached file. Attached file protected with the password for security reasons. Password is 66482. The Management, The Yahoo.com team http://www.yahoo.com Attachment TextDocument.zip .zip file Scan and Download Attachment Scan and Save to my Yahoo! Briefcase ********************************************** DO NOT OPEN THE SUPPOSED TEXTDOCUMENT.ZIP !!!!! It is the Netsky.D virus!!!!! If you open it, you are infected immediately. Netsky.D will probably be sending itself purporting to be from other email services. Do not click on the attachment! Do not do ANYTHING with the email except delete it. If your Anti- Virus program is working AND has been updated during the past few hours, the AV program probably caught it. As of this morning McAfee hadn't updated virus definitions for it. They probably have by now. Regards, SgtGeorge -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.225 / Virus Database: 262.1.3 - Release Date: 3/3/04

(Please do not reply to this notice here on the Mailing Lists. If you must discuss it, contact the manager of the List.) Have any of you been receiving the latest Netsky.D infection? It's been hitting hard and heavy. I've seen quite a few posts on other Mailing Lists about it and McAfee wasn't catching it. Neither were AOL's AV software or any other server's software. BUT..... my AVG Pro DID catch it! Hooray! (AVG Pro has been updated 5 times in the past 32 hours!) FOR YAHOO EMAIL USERS (and probably others): Netsky.D is faking emails from Yahoo about users' accounts. Here is what the fake email looks like: ********************************************** Dear user of Yahoo.com, Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in next three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign your account information. For details see the attached file. Attached file protected with the password for security reasons. Password is 66482. The Management, The Yahoo.com team http://www.yahoo.com Attachment TextDocument.zip .zip file Scan and Download Attachment Scan and Save to my Yahoo! Briefcase ********************************************** DO NOT OPEN THE SUPPOSED TEXTDOCUMENT.ZIP !!!!! It is the Netsky.D virus!!!!! If you open it, you are infected immediately. Netsky.D will probably be sending itself purporting to be from other email services. Do not click on the attachment! Do not do ANYTHING with the email except delete it. If your Anti- Virus program is working AND has been updated during the past few hours, the AV program probably caught it. As of this morning McAfee hadn't updated virus definitions for it. They probably have by now. Regards, SgtGeorge -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.225 / Virus Database: 262.1.3 - Release Date: 3/3/04

At 2/24/04 08:24 AM Tuesday, you wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >I suppose you have already though about the merits and demerits of >recruiting volunteers to help with the entry of data into the new data >base, but I thought it might be proper to mention it. I have found a few >database projects that make use of the services of volunteers, and find >that the time and effort required to set up the project appears to be >well worth the effort. I don't know much about the details of such a >project, and realize that such a procedure might not be practical for >this project. Best wishes, blessings and prayers for you and yours, for >every day of every year, and for your every worthwhile endeavor. Forrest **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hello Forrest, Thank you for the suggestion. I'm answering you here and also forwarding to the pertinent "Germanna" Lists I manage. You have a great idea. Several other people have already made offers to help, and, believe me, I need it right now. I have a back-log of close to 50 new additions. Plus, I'm trying to reformat all the pages so they are standardized, have the descendants list in a columnar style, AND trying to fill in the blanks for those who just sent their names and/or email addresses and website addresses and something similar to "John BROYLES", or "Hans FLEISCHMANN", etc., and nothing else. It's taking a lot of time to search the web/internet and try to figure out those users' lines of descent. First, let me explain about making the pages. I have to convert all the data that is sent me to HTML. So, anyone who wishes to help would have to be well versed on writing HTML, plus know a little about JAVA and Java Script. The most help I could receive right now would be for "volunteers" to pick out a surname page, scroll through it, and when there are entries such as just "John BROYLES", without ANY line/branch of descent, to try to make one using the web/internet. And/or where there is a line of descent, but spouses are not given, to search and fill in those blanks. It CAN be done! I've spent 12+ hours already today filling in some of those blanks, and, although tedious and time consuming, once you get the hang of how to search Ancestry.Com, it gets easier and quicker. So, if anyone is really interested, what would help the most would be for the volunteers to look at the surname pages and try to discover some of the missing data. The way to start is to go to the main "Address" page at <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/address.html>, pick out a surname, and click on it. Then, look at all the missing info and see if you can find it on the web/internet. If you find data, it would help if you sent it in this format: John Q. PUBLIC & Mary Jane DOE Fred E. PUBLIC & Whosit SMITH Ima L. PUBLIC & Somebody ELSE No One ELSE & Whoever ITWAS (GRIN) I can take that format and very quickly plug it into the HTML in my preformatted templates. Anyway, thanks to all who have offered to help and will certainly appreciate any data you can provide. Gotta sign off now. It's after 1:00 AM here and I still have to enter a few more entries. Regards, George W. Durman -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.224 / Virus Database: 261.9.8 - Release Date: 2/24/04

Simeon BROYLES and Mary FOX Sarah BROYLES and William BLACKBURN Simeon BLACKBURN and Matilda Ellen CARPENTER Ida Belle BLACKBURN and James Kelly DOUGLASS Mabel Kelly DOUGLASS and Eugene Ditrion FAULKNER Mary Gene FAULKNER and John Herbert SCROGGS (my parents) Herbert Douglass SCROGGS (me) Doug Scroggs Lee's Summit, MO

Folks, please be patient with me. If your contributions don't show up right away, that means I'm busy adding data that arrived before yours. I'm adding as I have time to format the info for the web pages. I now have over 50 new researcher additions, mostly for just Email Addresses, but don't let that dissuade you from sending in your entries. I'll get to them as quickly as I can. For those who want to see what has been added, I would suggest that you just go to the main page for researchers and click on the various surname links from there: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/address.html> I'm slowly changing the format over so that each person's descendant line is shown a columnar format instead of just typed all on one line. Thanks to an astute cousin of ours, I tried out the columnar format and it IS much better. It allows users to glance at the descendant list and see if their line/branch is represented. Also, I slightly increased the size of the text in the columns to make it a little easier for us older folks to read. I can't make the text any larger without having it wrap all the way to the left for those who use 640 x 480 screen resolutions; some lines are even wrapped at 800 x 600 for long lines. Makes it look messy and ugly. A word about your submissions. I don't need dates or places, UNLESS a date is absolutely necessary. For example, where there were more than one person in the branch/line with the same name, and adding something like "1742 John YAGER" or "1735 John YAGER" would avoid confusion.. All there is room for is the ancestor's name and his/her spouse, normally. Keep in mind that some pages haven't been converted to the new format; some pages have some of the new format and some of the old. I'm working on it as I deal with the various surname pages. AGAIN, we need spouses included with the ancestor descent line. And, for Heaven's Sake, don't send just "Researching the HOLTZCLAW Line", or "Researching Jacob HOLTZCLAW", etc. Thanks , SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.211 / Virus Database: 261.9.7 - Release Date: 2/20/04

At 2/19/04 01:49 PM Thursday, BrownsSRQ@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George, can't get your new page. Sorry, please advise. Joyce **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hi Joyce, You can access the main "addresses" page at: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/address.html> Where you will see a list of all the individual surname pages with researchers information. Then just click on the BROYLES/BRILES link. or Go directly to the BROYLES/BRILES page here: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/broylink.html> -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.211 / Virus Database: 261.9.7 - Release Date: 2/20/04

There is an index in front of it. Also if I did not trace your family for you it may not be on the CD. You may start with the immigrant and follow your line down by the number. Do you know your line back to John ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard & Lynn Smith" <rest@mindspring.com> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [BROYLES] Changes & Additions to Family Research Pages at Rootsweb I am not finding My name or email address. Ethelyn (Broyles) Smith. Email address is rest@ria.net. From the line of John N. Broyles and Susannah Smith from Campbell TN. Also bought your CD of Broyles Family Line called Broyles Family Newsletter by John K Broyles, Sr. I can not find our family informaiton on it. Do you have any suggestions as to how or where to find it? Thanks Ethelyn Smith ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I am not finding My name or email address. Ethelyn (Broyles) Smith. Email address is rest@ria.net. From the line of John N. Broyles and Susannah Smith from Campbell TN. Also bought your CD of Broyles Family Line called Broyles Family Newsletter by John K Broyles, Sr. I can not find our family informaiton on it. Do you have any suggestions as to how or where to find it? Thanks Ethelyn Smith

At 2/18/04 09:46 PM Wednesday, BUCKYBARB@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George, > >What a super idea. How do I get the Garr name on the list? > >Barbara Rector Hill **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hi Barb, Well, I've had SOME information there since about 1996! Just didn't have much. I have asked in the past for additions but it took this last reminder to really get things going. I have enough new entries to keep me busy for several days now. To add your information, just send me an email to one of the following email addresses: germannaresearch@comcast.net georgewdurman@comcast.net GERMANNA_COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com I don't have a GAAR/GARR page yet, but as soon as you send your information I will make one. It's no problem since I have a blank template page made and all I have to do is insert the names for the new page. I would like to keep the format consistent throughout the various pages, so here's what I suggest. Give the name of the Germanna emigrant from whom you descend. It's probably a good idea to give the original German name and the name by which he/she became known in the Colonies. Then start listing the line of descent that comes down to you. In the past I asked only for the "direct" line, that is just the names of the descendants, without spouses; however, thanks to you (in your previous emails today), I now see the importance of adding the spouses. There are two places to add your information on each surname page: Websites & Email Addresses. If you don't have a website just send your email address. If you do have a website, be sure to send the URL for the website and it's name, and your email address. Here's the format I would like to use for all the entries: (My line of descent.) ===================================== (Johannes BREYHEL [John BROYLES] m. Ursula RUOP; Hans Jacob BROYLES m. Maria Catharina FLEISCHMANN [FLESHMAN]; Jacob BROYLES m. Elizabetha YOWELL [UHL]; James BROYLES m. Eleanor BROYLES; Simeon BROYLES m. Mary LONGMIRE; William H. BROYLES m. Samantha Josephine LOVETTE; Herman Lovette BROYLES m. Lenora WILKINSON [McQUILKIN]; Mary Frances BROYLES m. Norman R. DURMAN; George W. DURMAN [Me].) (In the above list, the Eleanor BROYLES married to James BROYLES is the daughter of Matthias BROYLES, son of Hans Jacob BROYLES.) ===================================== Now, I'm not going to be a stickler for adhering to any particular format, but would like to be able to include a complete line of descent. In the past so many people just sent their email address and said something like "Descendant of John BROYLES". That is really not enough because when others access those pages they should be able to see immediately if anyone else is researching the same family lines/branches. As an illustration, if someone is looking for information on Simeon BROYLES, son of James, son of Jacob, seeing only "Descendant of John BROYLES" doesn't really help them that much. On the other hand, if someone looking for Simeon BROYLES, son of Matthias, son of Hans Jacob, he/she would know that wasn't my line/branch. I would like to list those names in the line of descent in a linear format, one generation under the other, but that makes a lot of scrolling necessary on the pages. What do you all think? Would it make it easier to find fellow researchers if the names were not all together, but one under the other? Let me know. If, for some reason, you don't want your full name included in the entry, be sure to tell me so. I do think that it's no security problem and would let other researchers know exactly who you are. (If any potential trouble-maker really wants to find out someone's full name, it takes about 15 seconds to use one of dozens of utilities and type in the email address and come up with the user's name.) If anyone has suggestions of any kind, don't hesitate to email me and let me know. I want the pages to be formatted so that they appeal to the readers and are easy to look at. Regards, SgtGeorge List & Website Manager -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.211 / Virus Database: 261.9.6 - Release Date: 2/18/04

George, can't get your new page. Sorry, please advise. Joyce

Wow! Can you say "overwhelmed"? I've been deluged with requests to have websites and email addresses added to the various surname pages on our website! But, that's good. Lots more data there now to help other Germanna researchers. I ask all of you that have your website addresses and email addresses already posted to take a look and make sure the data is complete. Here's what I mean by "complete". It doesn't do the maximum good to just send me your name and email address and the Germanna family you are doing research on. You need to include the line of descent from the Germanna emigrant down to you. Here's why. If some- one is researching the same family as you, say, KUNTZ or COONTZ, or whatever spelling, that person needs to know YOUR line/branch. Sometimes a researcher is looking for missing data on his/her specific line/branch, and if you have included your's from the emigrant down to you, that just might be the exact one the researcher is looking for! So, if you have an entry, or entries, there, please take a look, and, if there's nothing in your listing except for a generic "Johann KUNTZ and his descendants" (as an example), please make a line of descent down to you and send to me. If you are sending info for a new listing, BE SURE you include that data with your email. Here are two good examples of what I mean by line of descent: "Jacob CRIGLER, Nicholas CRIGLER, Aaron CRIGLER, Joel CRIGLER, James CRIGLER, James CRIGLER, James Henry CRIGLER, James Henry CRIGLER, James Ralph CRIGLER." or "John (Johannes) BROYLES, Jacob (Hans Jacob) BROYLES, Jacob BROYLES, James BROYLES, Simeon BROYLES, William M. BROYLES, Herman Lovette BROYLES, Mary Frances BROYLES, George William DURMAN (Me)." As you can see, if someone were having trouble with the CRIGLER family, and only knew his/her ancestry back to "James Henry CRIGLER", such a line of descent would be of enormous benefit to that researcher. He/she and you would immediately tie-in together and could swap information. You can go to the main page for "Web Pages and Email Addresses" and click on the surname(s) to see what's there: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/address.html> I've added several more today and still have several to add. Check out the page often to see if anyone has been added to the pages for your Germanna families. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman . -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.211 / Virus Database: 261.9.6 - Release Date: 2/18/04

I have reworked some of the pages at our website, and have added some surname pages. These are the pages that show the names, web pages, and email addresses of people who are researching our various Germanna surnames. Please take a look at: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/address.html> There are links from that page to the surname pages I have made so far, and one link to Germanna names in general. Please check it out and if you don't find your website and/or email address there, please send me an email with your information and I will add it. Be sure to include your line of descent from which emigrant is your ancestor, down to you. These pages are important and it is important that you give your descent information. They allow others to see if anyone else is researching their lines/branches. Regards, SgtGeorge List Manager Website Manager -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.211 / Virus Database: 261.9.5 - Release Date: 2/17/04

Great idea, thanks for sharing. Joyc

I received this from another genealogy mailing list and think it's a very good idea! You can, of course, change the wording to suit your wishes. Lisa ------------ A Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament To my spouse, children, or guardian. Upon my demise it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any of my Genealogical records, books, files, notebooks or computer programs for a period of two years. During this time period, please attempt to find one or more persons who would be willing to take custody of the said materials and the responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. In the event you do not find anyone to accept these materials, please contact the genealogical organizations that I have been a member of to determine if they will accept some parts or all of my genealogical materials. [List of organizations and addresses at bottom.] Please remember that my genealogical endeavors consumed a great deal of time, travel, and money. Therefore please do not ignore my requests. Signature Date Witness Date Witness Date List of organizations & addresses here

Just thought I would post a reminder to all subscribers of Lists I manage about automatic "Signature Lines" at the end of List posts. Here are things NOT allowed in Signature Lines: 1) Endless strings of surnames, permanently attached to and included as part of your signature line are inappropriate and are not to be included in messages sent to Mailing Lists, Message Boards, or anywhere else where you leave posts. 2) Other extraneous information, permanently attached to and included as part of your signature line, such as personal snail mail addresses; home or office phone or fax numbers; URLs associated with your website; your home page URL; your personal or office email address; your ICQ #; your family tree URL; URLs for all your surnames; "cutesy" sayings or quotes and biblical references or quotes, etc in an ad infinitum string, are inappropriate and are not to be included in your messages sent to Mailing Lists, Message Boards, or anywhere where you leave posts. Remember, I'm talking about *endless* strings of the above mentioned items attached to you signature line on a permanent basis, not the occasional piece of information of this nature that you may feel the need to send along with your message to the list; however, SURNAME lists in Signature Lines are NEVER appropriate. Let me explain the last sentence above. When you go to Rootsweb or Ancestry and do a search, let's say for DOE, and a poster has included a Signature Line that contains that surname, you will get a hit for posts by that poster, regardless of where he/she posted the message. It may have been in GEN-MAT (a List for advertising genealogy related materials for sale), VIRUS-DISCUSSION, COMPUTERS, EUDORA- WIN, FTM, etc., etc. When you do a search for a surname, you DON'T want to see all the non-genealogy Lists where posters put surnames in a Signature File at the end of all posts. REMEMBER, Rootsweb's rules are that ANY Signature Line must NOT exceed 4 lines, no matter what's in it. Further, I would suggest you not put your phone numbers, mailing addresses, ICQ Numbers, etc., in Signature Files. Dangerous! Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman List Manager

I'm looking for a subscriber to one of the Rootsweb Mailing Lists I manage who has the following email addresses in his/her Address Book, or has email sitting in his/her email program with the addresses: germannaresearch@comcast.net AND one of the following: alistair@clear.net.nz ellison@netaccess.co.nz Marilyn_McMillan@xtra.co.nz debbie.vee@clear.net.nz russhart@paradise.net.nz ian.westergaard@ihug.co.nz gale@ihug.co.nz heather.m@paradise.net.nz tumuaki@ts.co.nz If these addresses are in your Address Book, or if you have email saved in your email program from or to the addresses, please contact me via private email. We need to stop this dastardly thing right now! Thanks, SgtGeorge George W. Durman List Manager