In a message dated 7/8/04 1:41:19 AM Central Daylight Time, georgewdurman@comcast.net writes: Linda, I can almost assure you that there were no BROYLES born in PA. Somewhere, someone make a mistake and entered PA, when it shoud have been another state. Hi Cousin Sgt....... I hope I am posting this right or if I should send it directly to your e-mail address. I don't have a copy of the 1880 Whitley census but you can see the transcribed version at the KyGenWeb site. On the original the spelling of the name looked to me like Broilees Wm. and upon further review it had about 7 or 8 families in a row all listed as born in Pa. parents born Ky. The enumerator seemed to have had a hiccup in his day. I was fairly certain there were no Broyles I knew of in my line from Pa, but the clincher was when I finally figured out Susan (his wife) was a Gilreath. I am fairly strong on my Gilreath line and knew Susan had not lived in Pa. I still have had no success figuring out why 3 Stephens children were in their household or who the parents were of these children. Hopefully a trip to Williamsburg in Sept will help me clear up the mystery. Thanks so much for your response (and are you really a Sgt? :-) ) Linda

At 6/21/04 01:11 PM Monday, CindaByrdDeaton@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Carolyn, I am interested in the Chloe you mention, I am searching for info >on >a Cloa/ Chloe Bird, and understand Broyles was changed to Bird in come >cases. >Cinda Byrd Deaton **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hello Cinda, Now, that would be a feat indeed! BROYLES changed to BIRD????? No. You might find BYRD changed to BIRD, or vice-versa. But, BROYLES to BIRD? Not likely. I'm not sure about your references, but would surely like to see them. If BROYLES were ever changed to BYRD/BIRD, it would be a new one on me; however, there were many, many marriages in East Tennessee between the BYRD/BIRD and BROYLES families. It is possible that if an unmarried BROYLES woman gave birth to a child, or children, and it was later determined that the father was a BIRD/BYRD, the child's/children's name/names might have been changed to BIRD/BYRD. But, I have never seen such a case. If you look through the genealogical records for Germanna families in East Tennessee, you will find many Germanna descendants with the middle name BIRD. I can also cite several cases where illegitimate children were born as BROYLES and later took their parental name of BIRD, and vice-versa. But that's the only reason one surname would be changed to another. It would help if you could give specific examples of BROYLES being changed to BIRD. Looking through my extensive databases, I find no Cloa/Chloe BIRD, or Cloa/Chloe BROYLES. Please reply with references. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.253 / Virus Database: 263.3.11 - Release Date: 7/5/04

At 6/7/04 10:19 AM Monday, KiwisKeeper@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >In a message dated 6/7/2004 8:40:14 AM Central Daylight Time, >steve.broyles@teradyne.com writes: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IOG.2ACIB/293 >Does anyone know if we are part Jewish. I have been doing some searching >and all of my surnames Wilhite, Broyles, Fleishman ,Zimmerman, and >possibly Yeager were Jewish names. Can some one help me on this? These >were names of people in the nazi ghetto's. >Thanks, Frances **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Frances, No, these Germanna people were NOT Jewish!!!!! I don't know what kind of search you did, but I doubt very seriously that you found any Web/Internet references saying they were Jewish. For Heaven's sake, these people have been well documented, over and above any reasonable doubt, for several centuries, as being Lutherans! There are primary sources back to the beginning of the 16th Century showing that they belonged to Christian churches. If the names you listed were indeed listed as being in the "Nazi Ghettos", I would love to see the references. Of course, it's always possible that some of the descendants of our German ancestors, said descendants not immigrating to America but staying in Germany, ended up in Nazi ghettos. Not everyone in those places were actually Jews!!!!! Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.253 / Virus Database: 263.3.11 - Release Date: 7/5/04

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IOG.2ACIB/292.2 Message Board Post: Linda, I can almost assure you that there were no BROYLES born in PA. Somewhere, someone make a mistake and entered PA, when it shoud have been another state. The paths of migration for the BROYLES family was VA>TN (or NC)>KY>IN>IL. That is, for those early migrants who came through TN and went on north through the Cumberland Gap. When PA is thrown into the mix, something is wrong somewhere. I've been researching my mother's family (Mary Frances BROYLES) for decades and have never found ANY people with the name BROYLES from PA, or born in, or died in, or married in, etc. Could you send me a copy of the Census that says these people were born in PA? I just don't believe it. Yer Cuz, SgtGeorge George W. Durman

At 5/22/04 11:51 PM Saturday, Markkell95@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George- > >I saw the article was written by a Guinn and that she was from a prominant > >family. Is she related to my ancestor Nancy Guinn that married George B >Wilhite >(son of Julius and Margaret Hise, Grandson of Conrad and Elizabeth >Broyles)? > >Just wondering if this was all the same. > >Thanks, >Kellie > >In a message dated 5/22/2004 8:15:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, >GeorgeWDurman@comcast.net writes: >You can access the original article to which I referred at the following >URL: > >http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/default.asp?SectionID=DETAIL&ID=34784 >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hello Cousin Kellie, I don't know if she is related or not, but I would say the chances are about 99.9999% that she is. I grew up in Washington Co. and all the GUINNs I ever knew were all related to each other, and to the BROYLES ,WILHITE/WILHOIT, MARTIN, etc., families. There weren't very many of that name around there, so Sue GUINN LEGG could possibly be related. The GUINN families lived near Jonesborough, where Sue works for the newspaper. Yer Cuz, George -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.253 / Virus Database: 263.3.11 - Release Date: 7/5/04

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I don't have her parents but I may be able to direct you to the right family. I have a Stephen Thomas b. 1736 married Rachel Pratt. His daughter Nancy Thomas b. 1776 NC married Sampson Stanfield b. 1768 NC they died in Whitley Co Ky. Descendents lived in Campbell Co Tn and KY. They go back to a Tristram Thomas of England. -----Original Message----- From: Troublzup@aol.com [mailto:Troublzup@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:28 PM To: BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROYLES] Re: W.H. Broyles b. abt 1857 Whitley Co., Ky. In a message dated 7/6/04 2:48:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jkbroyles@comcast.net writes: I don't have anything on Savannah Thomas 1st wife of Aaron Broyles, can you share your info on her? I only have Hannah Hayes mother of William Hayes Broyles. Any info would be appreciated. Linda ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I'm sorry I did not try to find anything on her. Most of my information came from Dr. A. L. Keith's manuscript. And from people in Campbell County. I live in anderson County right next to Campbell. ken Broyles ----- Original Message ----- From: <Troublzup@aol.com> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [BROYLES] Re: W.H. Broyles b. abt 1857 Whitley Co., Ky. In a message dated 7/6/04 2:48:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jkbroyles@comcast.net writes: I don't have anything on Savannah Thomas 1st wife of Aaron Broyles, can you share your info on her? I only have Hannah Hayes mother of William Hayes Broyles. Any info would be appreciated. Linda ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 06/30/2004

In a message dated 7/6/04 2:48:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jkbroyles@comcast.net writes: I don't have anything on Savannah Thomas 1st wife of Aaron Broyles, can you share your info on her? I only have Hannah Hayes mother of William Hayes Broyles. Any info would be appreciated. Linda

Michael had son Aaron, Aaron had son Aaron and Michael had a son Michael that has a son Aaron that moved to Oregon. Aaron's Aaron md. !. Savanna Thomas and 2nd Hannah L. Hays and they had Aaron D. Broyles who md. Laura Burris. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Troublzup@aol.com> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [BROYLES] Re: W.H. Broyles b. abt 1857 Whitley Co., Ky. Susan E. Gilreath ((d/o William Wesley Gilreath and Sarah Jane Gregory Gilreath) married William Hayes Broyles 4 April 1878 in Scott Co., Tn.( Per Early Tn Marriages) William Hayes Broyles was the son of Aaron Broyles II and Hannah Hayes. Susan and William had 10 children that I know of Andrew Sidney, James Washington, William Aaron, Bascom Mar. Mary Elizabeth, Hannah Elmira, Sarah Etta, Addie Belle, Anna Pearl, and Charlie Oscar. I don't know of any connection to presidents or actresses but perhaps one of the Broyles researchers who know alot more than I do can help you there. I also only have back about 4 generations more on Hannah Hayes so I am afraid I am not much help there either. Good luck in your search..... Linda ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 06/30/2004

Carol I have listed as Aaron Broyles b. 5 July 1821 s/o Aaron Broyles (abt. 1767) and Nancy Davis.

Can you give me a birthdate for this Aaron Broyles and his parent. Was it Aaron I or a son of Michael or someone else? Thanks, carol -----Original Message----- From: Troublzup@aol.com [mailto:Troublzup@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:48 PM To: BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROYLES] Re: W.H. Broyles b. abt 1857 Whitley Co., Ky. Susan E. Gilreath ((d/o William Wesley Gilreath and Sarah Jane Gregory Gilreath) married William Hayes Broyles 4 April 1878 in Scott Co., Tn.( Per Early Tn Marriages) William Hayes Broyles was the son of Aaron Broyles II and Hannah Hayes. Susan and William had 10 children that I know of Andrew Sidney, James Washington, William Aaron, Bascom Mar. Mary Elizabeth, Hannah Elmira, Sarah Etta, Addie Belle, Anna Pearl, and Charlie Oscar. I don't know of any connection to presidents or actresses but perhaps one of the Broyles researchers who know alot more than I do can help you there. I also only have back about 4 generations more on Hannah Hayes so I am afraid I am not much help there either. Good luck in your search..... Linda ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) Subject: unsubscribe In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Susan E. Gilreath ((d/o William Wesley Gilreath and Sarah Jane Gregory Gilreath) married William Hayes Broyles 4 April 1878 in Scott Co., Tn.( Per Early Tn Marriages) William Hayes Broyles was the son of Aaron Broyles II and Hannah Hayes. Susan and William had 10 children that I know of Andrew Sidney, James Washington, William Aaron, Bascom Mar. Mary Elizabeth, Hannah Elmira, Sarah Etta, Addie Belle, Anna Pearl, and Charlie Oscar. I don't know of any connection to presidents or actresses but perhaps one of the Broyles researchers who know alot more than I do can help you there. I also only have back about 4 generations more on Hannah Hayes so I am afraid I am not much help there either. Good luck in your search..... Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Broyles Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IOG.2ACIB/293.1 Message Board Post: My great-grandfather William Hayes Broyles married a woman by the name of Susan Emerine _______. My mom can't remember her maiden name, but Gillreath could be it. Some of their children were Annie, Addie Belle (my grandmother) and Sarah Etta. Is this the same Broyles family? I would appreciate any more information anyone could give me. My mother insists that William Hayes Broyles was a direct descendant of Rutherford B. Hayes, (29th President of the US) and that the family is supposedly also related to Helen Hayes, actress. I would like to prove or disprove these connections. Thanks in advance! Valerie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IOG.2ACIB/4.6 Message Board Post: My grandfather, Michael Broyles, had a half brother named William Mitchell Broyles who was born in Wayne County, KY 5/31/1884. He and his wife, Maude Unknown, had a son, Floyd. They had 3 other sons, Lee, Michael and Roy. Unfortunately the elders in my family do not know where the sons settled once they became adults.

Carolyn, I am interested in the Chloe you mention, I am searching for info on a Cloa/ Chloe Bird, and understand Broyles was changed to Bird in come cases. Cinda Byrd Deaton

Hi Tammy Glad to hear from you, I live in LaFollette, TN, is your family still around this area? Unfortunately my sister and I were raised in Michigan. But came south every summer to stay with our dad and our Owens Granparents. The only part of the Broyles family we are familar with is Chloe's family, Rose Neil, and our Grandmother Dora Alice Broyles. Our Mother has some faint memories of our Dad's family but not much. I did meet a cousin of my Dad's in Michigan his name is Burgess Broyles, he was a Grayhound bus driver. My husband is having a Cress/Cottrell reunion this Friday at the Cove Lake State Park in the Pavillion, all day and evening, if you are nearby, we would love to have you come. I am going to be sorta busy this week getting ready for this reunion, but I would love to have any info on our families that you have. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <tammygen@att.net> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:02 PM Subject: [BROYLES] Re: Broyles Family Ancestry > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IOG.2ACIB/272.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Voctoria, > > I'd like to get in touch with you! My dad and your dad are cousins! My grandmother was Opal Marie Broyles Phillips -- Orval's sister. I have a lot of data on our family. Please contact me directly. Thanks Tammy Phillips > > > ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: > BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IOG.2ACIB/272.2 Message Board Post: Voctoria, I'd like to get in touch with you! My dad and your dad are cousins! My grandmother was Opal Marie Broyles Phillips -- Orval's sister. I have a lot of data on our family. Please contact me directly. Thanks Tammy Phillips

Frances, it sounds like you've been trolling some large databases look for surname matches. (By the way, you haven't indicated where these large databases are located. Are they on CD-ROMs you purchased?) Sure, there are Jews named Zimmerman, but there are plenty of non-Jews too. The name is German for Carpenter. Yeager/Yager is a name you are most unlikely to encounter in the foreign databases. It's an Americanization of Jaeger, the German word for Hunter. Broyles and Wilhite (and variants) will not be found in the foreign databases either, both being Americanizations of German names. If you find these names in those databases it would be remarkable. In any case, we know the German origins of most of the Germanna families. KiwisKeeper@aol. com To: BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com cc: 06/07/2004 11:40 Subject: Re: [BROYLES] Jewish roots? AM Please respond to BROYLES-L Jewish Surname Specific Resources I searched in this area. Frances ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: broyles-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello my maiden name is Carolyn Sue Broyles, I married a Cress, which is also of German descent, would you know or be able to tell me where to look for any marriages of Cress/Broyles in the early Germanian line. Carolyn Cress ----- Original Message ----- From: <steve.broyles@teradyne.com> To: <BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [BROYLES] Jewish roots? > > No, the Germanna families were not Jewish. They were recorded in the > parish records (baptisms, marriages, deaths) of Protestant German churches > in the late 1600's and early 1700's. They also formed a Protestant church > on this side of the pond. But that was 10 or more generations ago. > Intermarriage since that time means that any modern Germanna descendant is > likely to find quite a variety in his or her ethnic ancestry. > > Where did you find your information? > > > > > > KiwisKeeper@aol. > com To: BROYLES-L@rootsweb.com > cc: > 06/07/2004 10:19 Subject: Re: [BROYLES] W.H. Broyles b. abt 1857 Whitley Co., Ky. > AM > Please respond > to BROYLES-L > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/7/2004 8:40:14 AM Central Daylight Time, > steve.broyles@teradyne.com writes: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IOG.2ACIB/293 > Does anyone know if we are part Jewish. I have been doing some searching > and > all of my surnames > Wilhite, Broyles, Fleishman ,Zimmerman and possibly Yeager were jewish > names. > Can some one help me on this? These were names of people in the nazi > ghetto's. Thanks, Frances > > > ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== > You can contact the List Manager at: > broyles-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > ==== BROYLES Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from BROYLES, send an e-mail message to: > BROYLES-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > BROYLES-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject: unsubscribe > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >