Pat, We are talking about two different people. I am talking about Francis the son of John Browning and Elizabeth Demarest. Not John above and his brother.
My records show that your Francis Browning, son of John and Elizabeth had a brother John R Browning that married Nancy Peeples. Would you have any information or this John R Browning? ChasLA ----- Original Message ----- From: <LtCol0402@aol.com> To: <BROWNING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [BROWNING] Francis Browning of Russell County, VA > Pat, > > We are talking about two different people. I am talking about Francis the > son > of John Browning and Elizabeth Demarest. > > Not John above and his brother. > > > ==== BROWNING Mailing List ==== > BROWNING Most Wanted Page: > http//:freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~beanfamilies/browning_most_wanted.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 > >
Charles, Your records likely come from Edwin Franklin Browning's book "Genealogy of the Brownings in America from 1621 to 1908," which has been proven to be pretty unreliable. It seems that EFB mixed two families together to create one. This is a long story so bear with me. According to EFB, page 449, John and Elizabeth Demarest Browning had several children - James, b. 1745, Joshua, b. 1746, Enos, b. 1751, Frances, b. Nov 24, 1753, John , b. May 17, 1757, William, b. 1759, George, b. 1761., Eunice, b. about 1762, and Daniel, b. about 1764. It goes onto say that John who married Elizabeth Demarest, died in 1803, age 75 years. Now, on page 461 the book gives the name "Captain John Radford Browning" to the son of John and Elizabeth Demarest Browning. Notice that here the son is called John Radford and in the original listing he is called John. This is where the problems become apparent. EFB states that John Radford Browning married first Miss Culbertson in about 1780 and Nancy Peebles in about 1790. He lists 16 children of John and Nancy Peebles Browning, that John died in Arkansas and that he went to Thomas Co., GA in 1792 leaving Georgia in 1840 to head for Arkansas. Well, he has this information all mixed up. John Browning did indeed marry Nancy Peebles, county unknown. He went from Greene County, Georgia to what was Montgomery County, Alabama later Lowndes County. He lived there with his wife and most of his children, some of whom married there and buried children there. There are deed records, church records, cemetery records and more to substantiate this. I can give you tons of evidence on this family that would prove to you that the John Browning in EFB's book was never called Radford at all. We have been able to trace fourteen of the sixteen children. The two that we have not been able to trace seem to belong to a different Browning who could be John Radford Browning. EFB's book also states that William Browning, son of John and Elizabeth Demarest Browning, went to Thomas County, Georgia as well. He lists five daughters all who match in name to William Browning who went with Montgomery, later Lowndes County, Alabama just before his brother, John came with his family (this is John and Nancy Peebles Browning). He also came from Greene County, GA. William actually had ten children and had the dates a bit mixed up a bit. So, you see, the John Radford thing is a real mess. I have been very brief here but can go deeper if you need it. Now, Thomas County was not a county until 1825. It wasn't even part of any Georgia county in 1792. There was a Radford Browning there of an age that would match EFB's son of John & Elizabeth Demarest, who was in Montgomery Co., GA and then onto Thomas County. There was a William and a John C. in Thomas County later as well, who could have been this Radford's children. I am working on this to see if there is any connection to be made. There was also a George in Montgomery County, GA who could be this Radford's brother. He was in the part that later became part of Terrell County, I think. Could be wrong on the county as I am still working on this. The point is, I think that EFB mixed up the children of John & Elizabeth Demarest Browning with other people of the correct generation. There was a John Browning who died in 1803 in Greene County, GA, the same year as the John who married E. Demarest died. This John's will, though just doesn't mesh correctly with what is in EFB's book. Among his heirs listed were sons John and William, the same John and William who came to Montgomery, later Lowndes, County, Alabama. EFB does NOT say John died in Greene County, only that he died in 1803 at age 75 years. It seems that over the years (EFB was published in 1909) people have made assumptions that the John of Greene County was the same John who married Elizabeth Demarest. We can't truly say for sure. The John of Greene County had been married before but had remarried Suzanne Boring, widow of Joseph Boring, of Caswell Co., NC. The bottom line is that we do not know for sure if this is the same John who married Elizabeth and that the children in EFB's book are correct. My take on it is that the listings of the children with their spouses and children are incorrect. Perhaps the children of John and Elizabeth as listed with them are correct and EFB replaced one set of children with another. So, you need to rethink giving the name "Radford" to your John. If you have evidence to show who your John Radford is, please let us know because this has caused no end of headaches to many Browning researchers and anything you can share to help clear up this mess would be greatly appreciated. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Cox" <ccox@jam.rr.com> To: <BROWNING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [BROWNING] Francis Browning of Russell County, VA > My records show that your Francis Browning, son of John and Elizabeth had a > brother John R Browning that married Nancy Peeples. Would you have any > information or this John R Browning? > > ChasLA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LtCol0402@aol.com> > To: <BROWNING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:35 AM > Subject: Re: [BROWNING] Francis Browning of Russell County, VA > > > > Pat, > > > > We are talking about two different people. I am talking about Francis the > > son > > of John Browning and Elizabeth Demarest. > > > > Not John above and his brother. > > > > > > ==== BROWNING Mailing List ==== > > BROWNING Most Wanted Page: > > http//:freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~beanfamilies/browning_most_wanted.h tml > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 > > > > > > > ==== BROWNING Mailing List ==== > Contact Faye Elder, Listowner, txelder@netzero.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. 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