Where in Ohio is this Brown line?Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: <brown-request@rootsweb.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: BROWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 201 > > > Brown > > Today's Topics: > > 1. DNA (Eleanor Prieskorn) > 2. Re: DNA (Ray Brown) > 3. Re: DNA (Eleanor Prieskorn) > 4. Brown (dafaalley@sbcglobal.net) > 5. BROWN - ROCK (Dave Anderson) > 6. Re: BROWN - ROCK (Eleanor Prieskorn) > 7. Re: BROWN - ROCK (Beverly Peavler) > 8. Re: BROWN - ROCK (Eleanor Prieskorn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:36:31 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: [BROWN] DNA > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EE239572401A494CA3EF988436F3F9A3@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > > > We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > > has any other Brown family done this. > > > > The father and mother of my grandfather was William Henry Brown b between > 1820-1829 In Ohio; died in Indiana 1889; his mother was Ellen Johnson b > 1835 > Ohio and dies in Indiana 1901. > > > > William H Brown was married to Sarah A Catherine Lee b 1828; they had 4 > children > > Samuel P Brown; Emeline Brown ; Mary J Brown; and Nathan Brown > > > > With his second wife Hannah McCreery b 1832 they had 2 children Sarah E > Brown & Cora Etta Brown. > > > > Does anyone connect to this Brown family. > > > > ELB > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:47:11 -0600 > From: "Ray Brown" <kb0stn@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <007b01c94016$2c5fbde0$4201a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:36 AM > Subject: [BROWN] DNA > > >> Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My >> grandfather) >> >> We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, >> has any other Brown family done this. > > Not to a family named Rock, no, but I also have done a 37 analysis, and I > have > a 25 marker match with a MacKay line, so it's kind of similar. > > So it would seem that you are pretty closely related, within 5 or 6 > generations > at the most, of your GF with a Rock. > > I'd speculate that your GGF came over to the States from across the > "pond", > and for whatever reason changed his last name when he got to Ellis Island. > I suspect that my GGGF did the same thing. (sigh). > > > Ray > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:26:49 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > To: "'Ray Brown'" <kb0stn@sbcglobal.net>, <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <6D4BA6CFAC5042C3AF66247566BE7921@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks for the reply Ray; I think the Rock family must be > further back then a ggg grandfather; I thought getting the > DNA would help to get to a line; place; an idea where > to continue searches; well good luck Ray. > ELB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Ray Brown > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:47 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:36 AM > Subject: [BROWN] DNA > > >> Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My >> grandfather) >> >> We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, >> has any other Brown family done this. > > Not to a family named Rock, no, but I also have done a 37 analysis, and I > have > a 25 marker match with a MacKay line, so it's kind of similar. > > So it would seem that you are pretty closely related, within 5 or 6 > generations > at the most, of your GF with a Rock. > > I'd speculate that your GGF came over to the States from across the > "pond", > and for whatever reason changed his last name when he got to Ellis Island. > I suspect that my GGGF did the same thing. (sigh). > > > Ray > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:27:16 -0600 > From: <dafaalley@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [BROWN] Brown > To: <Brown-L@Rootsweb.net> > Message-ID: <000501c9402c$8a229270$4efe274b@DJBHFFC1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would like to get in touch with anyone who has any information on my > BROWN ANCESTORS. > Florentine Victoria BROWN was my great grandmother. > > > * Name: Joseph Adam BROWN **My 2nd great grandfather. > * Birth: 9 Dec 1827 in , Frederick, Maryland > * Death: 4 Nov 1877 in , Conway, Arkansas - buried in the WOLF CEMETERY, > OPPELLO, ARKANSAS. > > . Marriage 1 Caroline GORDON b: 27 Apr 1831 in , Frederick, Maryland *** > * Married: 1853 in , Frederick, Maryland > * Died: in Arkansas, buried in the WOLF CEMETERY , OPPELLO, ARKANSAS. > Children : > > 1. James H. BROWN b: 13 November 1853 in Maryland, d: 1888 in Arkansas > 2. ALAMANDA E. BROWN b: 1855 in Maryland, d: 1912 in Arkansas. > 3. Minerva BROWN b: ca 1858 in Maryland, d: 1886 in Arkansas. > 4. Joseph B. BROWN b: ca 1861 in Indiana, d: 1906 > 5. Adeline BROWN b: 1864 in Indiana > 6. George W. BROWN b: 1866 in Indiana. > 7. William H. BROWN b: 1866 in Indiana > 8. Florentine Victoria BROWN b: 10 April 1868 in Peru, Indiana and died > in Oklahoma. > 9. Charles E. BROWN b: 1870 in Arkansas. > 10. Albert BROWN b: 1874 in Arkansas. > 11. Emma J. BROWN b: 1874 in Arkansas. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:43:13 -0600 > From: "Dave Anderson" <davema3@verizon.net> > Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4173915294804D1CB57B80964DBFDE54@DAVE> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Eleanor, > Re your DNA match to a ROCK > > Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who > submitted > the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will both need > to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA sample > providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any opportunities > for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice-versa. > Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male "ROCK". Or > the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. > > Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. > > Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, ROKE, > ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. > > Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any other > matches, or near matches? > > Dave Anderson > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:39:50 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <85B8B2FC42F74C0590E231C10DDF0A65@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks for the reply Dave; > > He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have paper proof > back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; his sir > name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no > adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no DNA > found > with them at all. > > ELB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Anderson > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > > Eleanor, > Re your DNA match to a ROCK > > Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who > submitted > > the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will both need > to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA sample > providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any opportunities > for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice-versa. > Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male "ROCK". Or > the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. > > Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. > > Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, ROKE, > ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. > > Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any other > matches, or near matches? > > Dave Anderson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:32:01 -0700 > From: Beverly Peavler <bp@peavler.org> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <DC65A9AF-356B-414B-BB11-D5D3E67F74CA@peavler.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Proof of surname is not necessarily proof of parentage! > > On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Eleanor Prieskorn wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply Dave; >> >> He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have >> paper proof >> back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; >> his sir >> name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no >> adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no >> DNA found >> with them at all. >> >> ELB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Dave Anderson >> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK >> >> Eleanor, >> Re your DNA match to a ROCK >> >> Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who >> submitted >> >> the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will >> both need >> to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA >> sample >> providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any >> opportunities >> for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice- >> versa. >> Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male >> "ROCK". Or >> the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. >> >> Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. >> >> Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, >> ROKE, >> ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. >> >> Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any >> other >> matches, or near matches? >> >> Dave Anderson >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: >> 11/6/2008 >> 7:58 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Beverly Peavler > bp@peavler.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:00:20 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F710A7BC102248DC9386218556F002B3@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > What seemed to have happened Beverly was we had the Brown DNA > done and so did the Rock family; but his DNA matched the my Brown > family but he had none of my line nor did I have any of his. > > I am on the Brown list and match none at this point; I do know > that William Henry Brown b OH; was the father of my grandfather > William Henry Brown b IN; and my grandfathers mother was Ellen > Johnson b OH; his parents never married; my grandfather was put > on the Orphan Train by her or him or someone; where and when there > are no records except his name and thought to be birth. > I found him in the 1880 census living with the Bryant family > It stated took to raise age 9 b IN. > > Sometime after the 1880 census and before he filled out his marriage > records in 25 Aug 1895 he had taken the name Bryant (no adoption)he had > put > his mother and fathers name on that record. > > My father and his brothers were the first generation of > Bryant's do to grandfathers actions. > > Thanks for your reply. > ELB > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Beverly Peavler > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:32 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > > Proof of surname is not necessarily proof of parentage! > > On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Eleanor Prieskorn wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply Dave; >> >> He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have >> paper proof >> back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; >> his sir >> name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no >> adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no >> DNA found >> with them at all. >> >> ELB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Dave Anderson >> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK >> >> Eleanor, >> Re your DNA match to a ROCK >> >> Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who >> submitted >> >> the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will >> both need >> to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA >> sample >> providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any >> opportunities >> for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice- >> versa. >> Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male >> "ROCK". Or >> the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. >> >> Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. >> >> Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, >> ROKE, >> ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. >> >> Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any >> other >> matches, or near matches? >> >> Dave Anderson >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: >> 11/6/2008 >> 7:58 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Beverly Peavler > bp@peavler.org > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BROWN list administrator, send an email to > BROWN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BROWN mailing list, send an email to > BROWN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BROWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 201 > ************************************* >