Hi All Thanks for the interesting postings in reply to my recent note. I see though that most respondents were mainly of German (Alsace) or English descent and NOT Scottish. Where have all the American Scots by the name of Brown gone? Diane and Beverly said that a lot of American records were destroyed during the Civil War. That I can understand as I also have Irish ancestors who seem to have had the habit of destroying records as well, due no doubt to a few contretemps with the English over the century's. As a result, on my Irish side, I can only trace back to the early 1800's. BLAST them! (the English that is) Except for MY English ancestors of course. We are all a mixed up people aren't we and I haven't even mentioned the Welsh, Portuguese and east Indian (Rajput) ancestors I have! I particularly enjoyed Randall Colston's posting. What a great story mate. Actually as far as I can figure the Brown's of Coulston in Scotland (not certain of the spelling) are about the only Scots Brown's that I know of who can go back on the paper trail further than MY Scots Browns. (chest puffed out) BUT Randall - translation needed: What on Earth is a 'crab idol'? Whatever it was, your ancestor, in his inebriated state seems to have stomped it! Not even Google can elucidate the mysteries of 'crab idol' is. Don't leave me/us hanging mate. Tell us non Americans quick. What's it all about mate? Cheers Ken Brown OZ

I have the following Brown Families in my family tree. I have no proof or sources that they are my ancestors, or that any of the info that I have is even right.. In Family # 2, I do have some sources for relatives beginning in the Mid to Late 1800's for the Jayne side and their offspring/relations. Would like to find anyone researching these families. Family # 1 John Brown                        1589 London, England 1687 New Hampshire Married Sarah Walker 1618 London, Middlesex, England 1672 New Hampshire Daughter Rebecca Brown(e) 1640 Providence, RI 1701 Providence, RI Married   John Scott 1640 Providence, RI 1677 Providence, RI Son   John Scott, Jr 1664 Providence, RI 1725 Newport, RI Family # 2 John Brown 1650 Swansea, Bristol, Mass 1709 Swansea, Bristol, Mass Married   Anne Mason 1650 Saybrook, Middlesex, Connecticut 1709? Swansea, Bristol, Mass Children   Samuel Brown 1677 Swansea, Bristol, Mass 1752 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass Married   Anne Darling 1689 Mendon, Worcester, Mass 1753 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass Daughter   Abigail Brown 1720 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass 1804? Smyth, VA Married Unknown Spouse Daughter   Abigail Wheeler 1751 Orange, NY 1824 Washington, VA Married   Henry Jayne 1754 Goshen Township, Orange, NY 1822 Washington, VA ________________________________ From: Ken & Alice Brown <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> To: brown@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:47:30 PM Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND Hi All Thanks for the interesting postings in reply to my recent note. I see though that most respondents were mainly of German (Alsace) or English descent and NOT Scottish. Where have all the American Scots by the name of Brown gone? Diane and Beverly said that a lot of American records were destroyed during the Civil War. That I can understand as I also have Irish ancestors who seem to have had the habit of destroying records as well, due no doubt to a few contretemps with the English over the century's. As a result, on my Irish side, I can only trace back to the early 1800's. BLAST them! (the English that is) Except for MY English ancestors of course. We are all a mixed up people aren't we and I haven't even mentioned the Welsh, Portuguese and  east Indian (Rajput) ancestors I have! I particularly enjoyed Randall Colston's posting. What a great story mate. Actually as far as I can figure the Brown's of Coulston in Scotland (not certain of the spelling) are about the only Scots Brown's that I know of who can go back on the paper trail further than MY Scots Browns. (chest puffed out) BUT Randall  - translation needed: What on Earth is a 'crab idol'? Whatever it was, your ancestor, in his inebriated state seems to have stomped it!  Not even Google can elucidate the mysteries of  'crab idol' is. Don't leave me/us  hanging mate. Tell us non Americans quick. What's it all about mate? Cheers Ken Brown OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello! Thanks so much for your original post in this thread as it has generated great responses. I too would like to know what a crab idol is! I wish I could claim that my Brown line is from Scotland, but I'm stuck with finding the origins of my 2nd great grandfather, Richard Gibson Brown. He was born we think around 1800 in either NY, OH or VT. We've only been able to find documentation for him during the years 1844-1848 when he was married to Rebecca Moore and father of Loammi Byron, Benjamin Franklin, Susan and Richard Gibson, Jr. in Rock Island and Mercer Counties, Illinois. Since his children didn't know him well, they listed his birthplace on censuses as various places. again thanks, Ken and Alice! Beth

What do you know from the 1844-48 period Beth ? Any idea where he married - Gibson could perhaps be his mother's maiden name - just a guess. Mark On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Beth Golden wrote: > Hello! Thanks so much for your original post in this thread as it has > generated great responses. I too would like to know what a crab idol > is! I > wish I could claim that my Brown line is from Scotland, but I'm > stuck with > finding the origins of my 2nd great grandfather, Richard Gibson > Brown. He > was born we think around 1800 in either NY, OH or VT. We've only > been able > to find documentation for him during the years 1844-1848 when he was > married > to Rebecca Moore and father of Loammi Byron, Benjamin Franklin, > Susan and > Richard Gibson, Jr. in Rock Island and Mercer Counties, Illinois. > Since his > children didn't know him well, they listed his birthplace on > censuses as > various places. > > again thanks, Ken and Alice! > Beth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown knodish1@mac.com